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    Posted 05 September 2007 - 06:39 PM

    This game looks and sounds awesome. I'm downloading the demo.

    Discuss.

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      Posted 06 September 2007 - 01:31 AM

      It looks pretty good and it's gotten good reviews. I can't say I know too much else about it though. The adverts I've seen on TV are just weird.

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        Posted 06 September 2007 - 07:54 AM

        I've seen it on TV. Looks pretty good, but I don't know much about it. I do know it's the 6th best game of all time on Gamerankings though, so it MUST be really good.

        Anyhow, it's an FPS, but you can like inflict status effects on the enemies and RPG stuff like that. Cool.

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          Posted 06 September 2007 - 08:25 PM

          This game is amazing. Even just the demo has me captured. This isn't your typical run around and kill stuff game, and even words don't do it justice. This game is so atmospheric and immersive, it sounds awesome, it looks great... it just feels great.

          The game always has this creepy and disturbing feel to it, and it's amazingly cinematic at all times. Never has a game made me feel more emotion than this, and I'm just playing the demo. The audio plays a big part to the atmosphere, you often hear the voices of splicers (the main shooting targets in the game) talking with one another in an area, or a song on the radio, or any other sound. Like I've said, words don't do justice, you have to see for yourself. (sorry for using the word amazing so much, but there isn't any other way to describe this)

          Onto gameplay. Actually, the story plays a big part of the gameplay so I'll put the background in a nutshell. I'll put some of the more critical parts in spoilers, though none will spoil the ending of Bioshock, as far as I know. But I'm sure many of you would rather enjoy learning these things from in the game. Rapture, the underwater city the game is in, is a hidden society made by the people for the people. Art can be pursued uncensored, and scientists can ignore typical government restrictions to do what they really want. One thing lead to another, scientists discovered ways to alter people's genetics using ADAM,
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          This could be used to alter genetics for many purposes, including but not limited to summoning fire from your fingers. These "powers" are called plasmids. However,
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          That was the nutshell. For gameplay, the player can find these plasmids and use them to gain advantages in combat. The shock plasmid stuns an enemy, allowing you to follow up with another attack without them being able to do anything. The incinerate plasmid is your basic fire spell, setting objects or enemies on fire. This is funny because if there is a source of water nearby (which there is a lot of the time, the city is underwater after all) they'll run screaming and jump in it, in which you can switch to the shock plasmid and... well you get the idea. Unfortunately, that was all that was available in the demo, but the amount of options you get for fighting is appealing, and that's something you don't have in many FPS.

          You're cheating yourself if you have even the slightest interest in FPS (and I know you do, you Metroid fanboys) and you don't look more on this game. Just, download the demo for PC and try. I don't care if you've sold your soul to Nintendo (shame on you if you did) you need to learn more about this game.

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            Posted 06 September 2007 - 08:48 PM

            I own it. It's a damn good game. It's more then worthy of the reviews it's recieved. The newspaper here even had a review about it as an article, and it NEVER reviews games. The title was "Bioshock makes Halo look amateurish" which is a statement I agree with. Bioshock is a must buy.

            I love Metroid, but hey, I love FPSs too.

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              Posted 06 September 2007 - 09:09 PM

              There's a demo? Awesome! *downloads*

              [EDIT] 1.85GB... :wacko:

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                Posted 06 September 2007 - 09:13 PM

                View PostSpam King, on Sep 6 2007, 08:09 PM, said:

                There's a demo? Awesome! *downloads*

                [EDIT] 1.85GB... :wacko:

                Poor Split. Go delete some stuff. It's worth it.

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                  Posted 06 September 2007 - 09:16 PM

                  I'm more worried about our 12GB bandwidth, actually. On the other hand, my hard drive would laugh at the mere concept of a 12GB game.

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                    Posted 06 September 2007 - 09:20 PM

                    View PostSpam King, on Sep 6 2007, 08:16 PM, said:

                    I'm more worried about our 12GB bandwidth, actually. On the other hand, my hard drive would laugh at the mere concept of a 12GB game.



                    Go get Oblivion and get some sweet mods. 5GB+.

                    Anywho, Bioshock is great. Of course, creating any non-Nintendo thread on this board is like wearing a big board with a target that says "FLAME ME".

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                      Posted 06 September 2007 - 09:27 PM

                      The 360 is starting to roll out some pretty good games now. I might consider getting one, though I can still feel that Wii pulling my arm.

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                        Posted 06 September 2007 - 09:41 PM

                        View PostSpam King, on Sep 6 2007, 08:27 PM, said:

                        The 360 is starting to roll out some pretty good games now. I might consider getting one, though I can still feel that Wii pulling my arm.

                        Get both. Like me.

                        I love 'em both, although the Wii has my attention till Halo 3. Then I'll be waiting till November 2 days after that. Then the Wii has my attention forever when Brawl comes out. Bioshock is the only thing I'm using the 360 for right now. You can't beat a good game of Super Mario Bros. on the Wii.

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                          Posted 06 September 2007 - 10:31 PM

                          Split might as well get a sweet computer rig for gaming AND buy a Wii. Upgrading PCs doesn't cost as much as people make it out to be, so it would be cheaper in the long run. All of the good 360 games make their way to PCs one way or the other.

                          Split, try to download the demo anyway, it's worth it.

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                            Posted 06 September 2007 - 10:31 PM

                            When is this game coming out to the market? Im definetly looking to buy.

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                              Posted 06 September 2007 - 10:33 PM

                              View PostDarkSword, on Sep 6 2007, 09:31 PM, said:

                              When is this game coming out to the market? Im definetly looking to buy.


                              It's already out, hence I own it. And I FINALLY saw the full commercial on TV.

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                                Posted 06 September 2007 - 10:39 PM

                                TOO TARGET!!

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                                  Posted 07 September 2007 - 03:29 AM

                                  View PostWind Dude, on Sep 7 2007, 02:31 PM, said:

                                  Split might as well get a sweet computer rig for gaming AND buy a Wii. Upgrading PCs doesn't cost as much as people make it out to be, so it would be cheaper in the long run. All of the good 360 games make their way to PCs one way or the other.

                                  Split, try to download the demo anyway, it's worth it.

                                  I sure hope my dad doesn't notice...nah, he's too drunk right now.

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                                    Posted 07 September 2007 - 03:48 AM

                                    Really? O_O

                                    The 360 is an excellent console full of great games. No matter how much a Nintendo fanboy I am, I have to admit that. Unlike the PS3, I completely understand why somebody would want a 360. Heck, there are some games that I would love to play, and although Bioshock sounds great and I'm sure I would love it if I was ever to play it, there are a couple of 360 games I would rather play, such as Blue Dragon, Viva Pinata and any Final Fantasy that should be released soon.

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                                      Posted 07 September 2007 - 03:50 AM

                                      View PostAquamarine, on Sep 7 2007, 07:48 PM, said:

                                      Really? O_O

                                      What are you so surprised about? Aren't you always getting drunk too?

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                                        Posted 07 September 2007 - 03:59 AM

                                        I know, I was joking. Didn't mean to offend you or anything, sorry.

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                                          Posted 07 September 2007 - 04:01 AM

                                          I'm not offended. But I will be if you don't read my PM.

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                                            Posted 07 September 2007 - 08:04 PM

                                            Now that I think about it... why didn't I put this in the normal gaming section? It's on PCs too, ya know.

                                            *report'd*

                                            So anyway, I'll admit. On medium difficulty, provided you know how to aim at all, this game seems EASY. If you like exploring you can find lots of health packs which will instantly make you healthy at the push of a button. And plasmids give you all sorts of advantages even then. But you shouldn't be playing for a challenge, this game amazing artistic design and an interesting world is what BioShock is about. If you want an adrenaline filled shooter, wait for Halo 3.

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                                              Posted 08 September 2007 - 10:08 AM

                                              ~MOVED~

                                              Anyways, I only played the demo of this game. Pretty decent, but I just love the way the environment reacts to what you do.

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                                                Posted 08 September 2007 - 06:10 PM

                                                I just bought the full version. Can't wait to play it.

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                                                  Posted 09 September 2007 - 05:48 AM

                                                  You just bought it, but before playing it you decided to come to GSSF? Weird.

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                                                    Posted 09 September 2007 - 10:00 AM

                                                    It was a long install time. :blink:

                                                    I haven't played a lot of the game just yet. You have to put the volume on loud to fully appreciate the game, BioShock is a creepy/disturbing game, my computer is in the living room... you get the idea. I'm gonna rig it up so I can use earphones while playing.

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                                                      Posted 09 September 2007 - 02:52 PM

                                                      Let's all ***** about nintendo fanboys on a nintendo game forum!

                                                      I don't even play many nintendo games and you ******s piss me off.

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                                                        Posted 09 September 2007 - 02:55 PM

                                                        We care about your feelings PDM.

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                                                          Posted 10 September 2007 - 12:52 AM

                                                          ...however pathetic they may be.

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                                                            Posted 10 September 2007 - 04:54 PM

                                                            Calling someone pathetic doesn't make you any less pathetic yourself.

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                                                              Posted 10 September 2007 - 06:48 PM

                                                              Don't insult each other. Stay on topic.

                                                              Anyways, plasmids I think they're called, those items that give you speed boosts and whatnot? I think those are one of the most interesting parts of the game. It surely adds to strategy.

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                                                                Posted 11 September 2007 - 12:56 AM

                                                                View PostPiers, on Sep 11 2007, 08:54 AM, said:

                                                                Calling someone pathetic doesn't make you any less pathetic yourself.

                                                                Nor does it make me any more.

                                                                My dad has already jumped on me for downloading this game. He has this bandwidth tracker that shows how much we use each month, and he just showed it to me. And I'm like, 'We've used up a quarter of our downloads in 10 days...that's good, isn't it?'

                                                                And he's like, 'Just warning you...'

                                                                He's getting paranoid about this. Then again, nobody likes having slow broadband.

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                                                                  Posted 11 September 2007 - 04:09 PM

                                                                  Well, long as you don't download other files, it'll be fine, right?

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                                                                    Posted 12 September 2007 - 03:18 AM

                                                                    And allow my pirated music collection to go stale? Never!

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                                                                      Posted 12 September 2007 - 09:40 PM

                                                                      Too bad that most of you guys don't own 360s or particularly good PCs. Everybody who has any interest in shooters should buy this game, it really is revolutionary. Despite the fact that shooters are arguably the most popular genre of video game to date, you don't see many of them that have a lot of effort or depth put into them, and you'd be lucky to find one with more than 10-15 hours of gameplay in it. BioShock is different though, this game has LAYERS, and has a beautiful presentation and awesome story-telling with, I hear, 20 hours in it.

                                                                      BUT, if this is pretty much the only game available on the 360 that you're interested in, don't bother buying one until you see more games you want. It isn't worth that kind of money. But I'll always say you should get into computer gaming. Will post more as I get through the game.

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                                                                        Posted 13 September 2007 - 02:36 AM

                                                                        Hyper Magazine gave Bioshock a score of 97. In case you've never read Hyper, that's an incredible score. The highest they've ever given is 98, I believe.

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                                                                          Posted 13 September 2007 - 03:21 AM

                                                                          I have an XBOX, can't afford 360. My xbox is broken. D:

                                                                          I have a PS2, but it's an old one that doesn't work.

                                                                          I have a gamecube.. nothing's wrong with it but it only has 3 good games.

                                                                          I have a PC, it's from 1999, but I manage to play demanding games on it. NO DOLLA DOLLA for new games though. =/

                                                                          OMGZ I'm SUCH a nintendo fan boy! I didn't break my GC (probably from lack of use)

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                                                                            Posted 13 September 2007 - 10:32 AM

                                                                            View PostWind Dude, on Sep 13 2007, 05:40 AM, said:

                                                                            Too bad that most of you guys don't own 360s or particularly good PCs. Everybody who has any interest in shooters should buy this game, it really is revolutionary. Despite the fact that shooters are arguably the most popular genre of video game to date, you don't see many of them that have a lot of effort or depth put into them, and you'd be lucky to find one with more than 10-15 hours of gameplay in it. BioShock is different though, this game has LAYERS, and has a beautiful presentation and awesome story-telling with, I hear, 20 hours in it.


                                                                            I think that depends on what part of the world you're looking at. Altogether, I believe it's a tie between shooters and RPG's.

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                                                                              Posted 13 September 2007 - 04:05 PM

                                                                              You're right on that. There is different genre interest in each country. Japs love RPGs, USA is a bit of a melting pot of different people and cultures but overall I'd say there is more interest in shooters here. The only thing is, only so many RPGs come out each year as they are hard to make.

                                                                              But that's besides the point; BioShock is a benchmark that all shooters should strive for.

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                                                                                Posted 14 September 2007 - 11:39 PM

                                                                                So BioShock has been met with amazing success. According to this they are going to turn BioShock into a franchise with scheduled sequels like Grand Theft Auto.

                                                                                Okay... I'm all up for maybe a BioShock prequel or something but I don't want BioShock II, BioShock III, and BioShock IV. That sort of thing KILLS games... too much can be too much, and I'd hate to see a game like BioShock, a game that blurs the line between game and art, turned into a ploy for a quick buck.

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                                                                                  Posted 14 September 2007 - 11:43 PM

                                                                                  Yeah, numbers kill games. But that worked in reverse for Metroid games and Smash Bros. etc., eh?

                                                                                  But anyway. A prequel would be great. To see what Rapture was like before that day... It would make quite the interesting RPG eh? Open world Rapture? A man can only dream...

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                                                                                    View PostWind Dude, on Sep 15 2007, 03:39 PM, said:

                                                                                    So BioShock has been met with amazing success. According to this they are going to turn BioShock into a franchise with scheduled sequels like Grand Theft Auto.

                                                                                    Okay... I'm all up for maybe a BioShock prequel or something but I don't want BioShock II, BioShock III, and BioShock IV. That sort of thing KILLS games... too much can be too much, and I'd hate to see a game like BioShock, a game that blurs the line between game and art, turned into a ploy for a quick buck.

                                                                                    The Grand Theft Auto series succeeded because each game completely reinvented the last one. Those are the best kind of sequels.

                                                                                    AND STOP DOING THAT!

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                                                                                      Posted 14 September 2007 - 11:49 PM

                                                                                      Are you kidding? Every GTA game is the exact same as the last, except with "new locations, vehicles, and weapons" but other than that the game is played exactly the same! Kind of like Pokemon. But in GTA it's all like, "shoot random person, get money, get guns, steal car, OH SNAP IT'S DA COPZ!!"

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                                                                                        Posted 15 September 2007 - 12:49 AM

                                                                                        Wikipedia said:

                                                                                        San Andreas: New Features

                                                                                        In total, there are nearly 200 types of vehicles in the game, compared to the approximately 85 in GTA III. New additions include bicycles, jet planes, a jetpack, quadbikes, tractors, trains, a combine harvester, police motorcycles, a forklift, a street sweeper, a ride-on lawnmower and many others. In addition, players can swim and climb walls for the first time in the series. The ability to swim has a great effect on the player as well, since water is no longer a viable barrier to the player and can no longer kill the player. For greater firepower, players can also wield dual firearms or perform a drive-by shooting with multiple gang members. Also, due to the immense size of San Andreas, a waypoint reticule on the HUD map can be set, aiding the player in reaching a destination.

                                                                                        Rockstar has emphasized the personalization of the main character. Clothing, accessories, haircuts and tattoos are now available for purchase by CJ, and have more of an effect on non-player characters' reactions than the clothing in Vice City. CJ's level of respect among his fellow Grove Street gang members varies according to his appearance and actions, as do his relationships with his girlfriends. Players must also ensure CJ eats to stay healthy and also exercises properly. The balance of food and physical activity has an effect on his appearance and physical attributes.

                                                                                        San Andreas also tracks acquired skills in areas such as driving, firearms handling (when skills are high enough, double-wielding of certain weapons is possible), stamina, and lung capacity, which improve through use in the game, adding an RPG aspect to San Andreas. CJ may also learn three different styles of hand-to-hand combat (boxing, martial arts and street fighting) at the gyms in each of the game's three cities. CJ can also speak with a number of pedestrians in the game, responding either negatively or positively; Rockstar claims that he has a total of about 4200 lines of spoken dialogue.

                                                                                        The game's artificial intelligence was also improved. No longer can the player beat a pedestrian to death on a busy street in broad daylight and have bystanders not respond. While most pedestrians will flee or duck for cover, some armed civilians and enemy gang members will attack CJ, and friendly gang members will shoot at and pursue his opponents. Cops will now chase other rival gang members who are committing crimes, instead of just the player.

                                                                                        Other new features include:

                                                                                        Car modification: Most automobiles in the game can be modified and upgraded at various garages. All car mods are strictly visual apart from a nitrous oxide system which gives the car a speed boost when activated; and hydraulics, which lowers the car's height by default and allows the player to control various aspects of the car's suspension. Other common modifications include paintjobs, rims, body kits, side skirts, bumpers and stereo system upgrades.
                                                                                        Gang wars: The goal is to gain as much territory within the city as possible in order to earn money. Battles with enemy gangs are prompted whenever the player (either alone or accompanied by fellow Grove Street Families members) ventures into enemy territory and kills 3-4 gang members. If the player then survives multiple waves of enemies, the territory will be won and fellow gang members will begin wandering the streets of these areas. Occasionally, your territory will come under attack from enemy gangs and defeating them will be necessary to retain these areas.
                                                                                        Robbery: Continuing the series' tradition of controversy, home invasion is included as a potential money-making activity. By stealing a robbery van, CJ is able to sneak into a residence at night, and cart off valuables or shake down the occupants.
                                                                                        Minigames: Numerous minigames are also available for play in San Andreas, including basketball, pool, rhythm-based challenges (dancing and 'bouncing' lowriders, with hydraulics), and video game machines that pay homage to classic arcade games. In addition, there are the aforementioned casino games and methods of gambling, such as betting on virtual horse races.
                                                                                        Multiplayer: A two-player cooperative mode has also been added for the PlayStation 2 and Xbox versions. Accessing this mode will launch a series of special objectives similar to 'Rampages' from previous Grand Theft Auto games. Two human players will be able to travel by car or on foot. Both players are required to remain on the same screen and within a reasonable proximity of one another.


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                                                                                          Posted 15 September 2007 - 01:11 AM

                                                                                          Sounds like other games that have already been released. Rockstar, you bore me.

                                                                                          Anyway, I'm about to go on another play through of BioShock. Tomorrow maybe. Too late right now, and I'm workin' tomorrow.

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                                                                                            Posted 15 September 2007 - 02:30 AM

                                                                                            Rockstar practically invented the genre of a runaround shooter. And the sheer style in which it was pulled off is what makes the series so great.

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                                                                                              Posted 15 September 2007 - 04:38 PM

                                                                                              Apparently you don't know the difference between new features and new gameplay. Those are called features, it evens says so. Those are not major gameplay changes; GTA SA still plays pretty much the same way as the games before it. Although I'm interested in how GTA V will turn out to be, it looks like it'll play differently than the other games.

                                                                                              Anyway, BioShock... wow, the story gets better and better as you go on. My complaint is... The "Rosie" type of Big Daddy. (they are named after Rosie the Riveter, since they carry a "rivet gun". Get it?) I can't even describe it. The gun they fire is super-accurate, appears to be semi-automatic and takes you down in perhaps 5 hits. Also... Vita Chambers. I want to be punished for dying, dammit!

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                                                                                                Posted 15 September 2007 - 04:43 PM

                                                                                                Your obssession with Bioshock has closed your mind to the classics.

                                                                                                Tut tut.

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                                                                                                  Posted 15 September 2007 - 06:45 PM

                                                                                                  View PostSpam King, on Sep 15 2007, 03:43 PM, said:

                                                                                                  Your obssession with Bioshock has closed your mind to the classics.

                                                                                                  Tut tut.

                                                                                                  GTA? Classic? Not anymore buddy.

                                                                                                  I'm gonna start a play through in a few minutes. I like the BDs that charge. Much more fun.

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                                                                                                    Posted 15 September 2007 - 07:18 PM

                                                                                                    View PostSpam King, on Sep 15 2007, 03:43 PM, said:

                                                                                                    Your obssession with Bioshock has closed your mind to the classics.

                                                                                                    Tut tut.

                                                                                                    If you mean by classics the same crap over and over again, then yeah, I guess I have. But I'm open-minded. BioShock is something different. Clearly you don't appreciate games as art, so play BioShock or go annoy somebody else with your ego.

                                                                                                    So I just beat BioShock. I got the "good" ending because I saved all the Little Sisters. It wasn't exactly a happy ending, but, Jack got what he wanted in the end. It was heart-warming but sad at the same time.

                                                                                                    As for the final boss battle, it wasn't that hard (playing on medium, though) and I had more trouble taking down Rosies and Bouncers. I mostly just shotgun'd him with Exploding Bucks and then shooting heat-seaking RPGs at him.

                                                                                                    I'll play BioShock again after a few weeks or a month and this time harvest the Adam from the Little Sisters rather than rescue. That ending will probably be really sad, though. :P

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                                                                                                      Posted 15 September 2007 - 09:59 PM

                                                                                                      New features in pokemon diamond and pearl...

                                                                                                      LEWL.

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                                                                                                        Posted 15 September 2007 - 10:11 PM

                                                                                                        View PostPiers, on Sep 15 2007, 08:59 PM, said:

                                                                                                        New features in pokemon diamond and pearl...

                                                                                                        LEWL.

                                                                                                        Okay, now THAT is a good one.

                                                                                                        And don't worry WD, it's not really a sad ending.

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                                                                                                          Posted 16 September 2007 - 04:53 AM

                                                                                                          Sad endings are the best... No, really, for some reason I like sad endings.

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                                                                                                            Posted 16 September 2007 - 05:39 AM

                                                                                                            Then you should watch this:

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                                                                                                              Posted 16 September 2007 - 05:41 AM

                                                                                                              If I could I would... My darn internets is too slow.

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                                                                                                                Posted 16 September 2007 - 05:42 AM

                                                                                                                Wow, you can't handle 42 seconds of video? Sucker.

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                                                                                                                  Posted 16 September 2007 - 05:46 AM

                                                                                                                  42 seconds? Oh, I can do that... If your link worked. It just opens up a bunch of words. And I know what you're going to say next.

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                                                                                                                    Posted 16 September 2007 - 10:37 AM

                                                                                                                    http://www.sonydefenseforce.com/?p=83

                                                                                                                    That is LOL especially since the developers have killed the BioShock for PS3 rumors.

                                                                                                                    http://www.joystiq.com/2007/08/24/levine-c...a-on-pc-issues/

                                                                                                                    On a note for that article... other than a couple of crashes to the desktop (which were more my fault with changing some video settings) I've had almost no problems with BioShock on my PC. So I don't know why others are having so much problems.

                                                                                                                    This Sony Defense Force thing is hilarious, it's obviously a joke. I think I'll bookmark it as a good laugh. If you scroll down some more to this it's even more funny. They chart sales of "Sony Family" against the 360, Wii, and DS and claim that Sony sells more. Well... yeah, all of Sony's products placed against individual products, of course the numbers would make Sony look bigger. Now if you place Nintendo in a family versus Sony in a family, you'd get some nice results.

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                                                                                                                      Posted 16 September 2007 - 05:55 PM

                                                                                                                      View PostAquamarine, on Sep 16 2007, 09:46 PM, said:

                                                                                                                      42 seconds? Oh, I can do that... If your link worked. It just opens up a bunch of words. And I know what you're going to say next.

                                                                                                                      What?

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                                                                                                                        Posted 17 September 2007 - 06:53 AM

                                                                                                                        Ok, so I didn't know what you were going to say next.

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                                                                                                                          Posted 17 September 2007 - 08:52 AM

                                                                                                                          Now this is just funny. This is from the same site that you got the BioShock thing from WD.

                                                                                                                          http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa223/Holt2007/Graph99.jpg
                                                                                                                          In Japan. The only true fact is the 360, cause it's around there in Japan. The Wii and DS are just blowing Sony away there.

                                                                                                                          It's a great site for people that need to be comforted into knowing they spent $700 on a piece o' crap.

                                                                                                                          Edit: The two most recent sales records for Japan:

                                                                                                                          August 27 - September 2, 2007
                                                                                                                          DSL - 94,339
                                                                                                                          Wii - 39,371
                                                                                                                          PSP - 22,196
                                                                                                                          PS3 - 18,068
                                                                                                                          PS2 - 14,280
                                                                                                                          X360 - 1,635
                                                                                                                          GBM - 263
                                                                                                                          GBASP - 195
                                                                                                                          GameCube - 73
                                                                                                                          GBA - 16
                                                                                                                          DS - 0

                                                                                                                          September 3 - 9, 2007
                                                                                                                          DSL - 77,488
                                                                                                                          Wii - 29,088
                                                                                                                          PSP - 15,564
                                                                                                                          PS2 - 13,360
                                                                                                                          PS3 - 13,248
                                                                                                                          X360 - 1,286
                                                                                                                          GBM - 428
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                                                                                                                          GameCube - 82

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                                                                                                                            Posted 17 September 2007 - 09:58 AM

                                                                                                                            Lol Sony is so pathetic. They actually edited the Halo 3 page on Wikipedia with something like "The graphics aren't going to be any better than Halo 2." Lol, losers.

                                                                                                                            Anyhow, Nos you've played both Bioshock and Prime 3, right? So which game is better in your opinion?

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                                                                                                                              Posted 17 September 2007 - 08:57 PM

                                                                                                                              View PostAquamarine, on Sep 18 2007, 01:58 AM, said:

                                                                                                                              Lol Sony is so pathetic. They actually edited the Halo 3 page on Wikipedia with something like "The graphics aren't going to be any better than Halo 2." Lol, losers.

                                                                                                                              That's hilarious. I found the original edit, too:

                                                                                                                              http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=...oldid=125851329

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                                                                                                                                Posted 17 September 2007 - 09:03 PM

                                                                                                                                ^ They made it look like they have a reference for it "not looking any better than Halo 2", but it doesn't actually link to anything. Plus it was clearly edited in, see the grammar mistakes? Rofl. Anybody who looks at Halo 3 screenshots can see it has lovely graphics.

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                                                                                                                                  Posted 17 September 2007 - 09:09 PM

                                                                                                                                  Isn't this a Bioshock topic? And... if you read the follow ups to the articles, you'd realise it was just some dude at the Sony Liverpoll office. It wasn't "Sony", but just someone at Sony.
                                                                                                                                  The Sony hate here is soooo much. Get with the crowd... Sony bashing is sooo last year.

                                                                                                                                  EDIT: And to add to the fact, it was SCEE Liverpoll hotspot. Who say it wasn't a fanboy who visited the SCEE office? Or someone who picks up the SCEE WiFi signal? Or even a Sony hater who wanted some more Sony hate?

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                                                                                                                                    Posted 17 September 2007 - 09:11 PM

                                                                                                                                    We haven't actually seen any in-game sequences yet, to my knowledge; just a heap of lavishly computer-rendered screenshots.

                                                                                                                                    Oh, and for the record, Master Chief is a power player.

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                                                                                                                                      Posted 17 September 2007 - 09:22 PM

                                                                                                                                      We've seen some BETA stuff, and that looks pretty good. The real game could only look better.

                                                                                                                                      Eugine, I get the feeling that if the hate was aimed at Nintendo you wouldn't care. Sony sucks, that's it.

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                                                                                                                                        Posted 18 September 2007 - 05:22 AM

                                                                                                                                        You do a lot of nintendo fanboy bashing (and accusing).. are you a closet nintendo boy?

                                                                                                                                        *Goes to post in the MARIO topic!.. nt rly*

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                                                                                                                                          Posted 18 September 2007 - 12:52 PM

                                                                                                                                          There is no Mario topic. And Eugine's post was funny because his first sentence was 'Isn't this a Bioshock topic?' and then he went on to talk about Sony and Halo 3. =P

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                                                                                                                                            Posted 18 September 2007 - 02:24 PM

                                                                                                                                            Played this in the middle of the night on a 1080 HD TV.
                                                                                                                                            I tell you, this game is the equivalent of a god.

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                                                                                                                                              Posted 18 September 2007 - 04:55 PM

                                                                                                                                              Would Bioshock be classified as a horror game?

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                                                                                                                                                Posted 18 September 2007 - 05:02 PM

                                                                                                                                                View PostAquamarine, on Sep 17 2007, 08:58 AM, said:

                                                                                                                                                Lol Sony is so pathetic. They actually edited the Halo 3 page on Wikipedia with something like "The graphics aren't going to be any better than Halo 2." Lol, losers.

                                                                                                                                                Anyhow, Nos you've played both Bioshock and Prime 3, right? So which game is better in your opinion?

                                                                                                                                                Hmm. That's a hard one. I think it's a tie for me. They're both great games. BioShock does lose in boss battles though. The Prime ones are much more epic. But BioShock is just awesome.

                                                                                                                                                Definantly a tie. I like both.

                                                                                                                                                And in the Sony sucking place... they lose the console war. It's between Microsoft and Nintendo.

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                                                                                                                                                  Posted 18 September 2007 - 05:05 PM

                                                                                                                                                  Nos, look up.

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                                                                                                                                                    Posted 18 September 2007 - 05:11 PM

                                                                                                                                                    View PostSpam King, on Sep 18 2007, 03:55 PM, said:

                                                                                                                                                    Would Bioshock be classified as a horror game?

                                                                                                                                                    In my opinion, yes. Quite yes. It's creepy and dark and OH so bloody! It's one of those games you don't play at night if you get scared easily.

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                                                                                                                                                      Posted 18 September 2007 - 05:26 PM

                                                                                                                                                      Stuff like this?

                                                                                                                                                      http://www.youtube.c...h?v=DiNbuY6UbG4

                                                                                                                                                      That bit at 1:45 is just disturbing.

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                                                                                                                                                        Posted 18 September 2007 - 05:35 PM

                                                                                                                                                        View PostSpam King, on Sep 18 2007, 04:26 PM, said:

                                                                                                                                                        Stuff like this?

                                                                                                                                                        http://www.youtube.c...h?v=DiNbuY6UbG4

                                                                                                                                                        That bit at 1:45 is just disturbing.

                                                                                                                                                        To quote something or somone: "Wait! It gets worse!"

                                                                                                                                                        It's much creepier. Much, much creepier.

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                                                                                                                                                          Posted 18 September 2007 - 06:05 PM

                                                                                                                                                          Once I was in an old, abandoned room of a dentist office in the game. There was a bloody body in the dentist chair, and the light above it (the only light source in the whole room) was flickering on and off. There was a desk with an audio diary on it in the corner, a couple band aids, and a few other miscellaneous objects of interest. I moved over to it and sorted through it. Once I was done looting the desk I turned around to go somewhere else but...

                                                                                                                                                          There was a guy in a doctor's outfit, RIGHT THERE behind me, watching what I was doing and holding a section of pipe as a weapon. I was holding a shotgun at the moment so it was a one shot kill, but still, it was a sort of an "OH SHI--" moment. If I was any less... for lack of better word, frightenable, I probably would've screamed out loud.

                                                                                                                                                          So yes, this game is quite creepy. Most games will give an honest try at being scary, but this game actually achieves thanks to some really high quality sound effects, art design, and general atmosphere.

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                                                                                                                                                            Posted 18 September 2007 - 06:18 PM

                                                                                                                                                            View PostWind Dude, on Sep 18 2007, 05:05 PM, said:

                                                                                                                                                            Once I was in an old, abandoned room of a dentist office in the game. There was a bloody body in the dentist chair, and the light above it (the only light source in the whole room) was flickering on and off. There was a desk with an audio diary on it in the corner, a couple band aids, and a few other miscellaneous objects of interest. I moved over to it and sorted through it. Once I was done looting the desk I turned around to go somewhere else but...

                                                                                                                                                            There was a guy in a doctor's outfit, RIGHT THERE behind me, watching what I was doing and holding a section of pipe as a weapon. I was holding a shotgun at the moment so it was a one shot kill, but still, it was a sort of an "OH SHI--" moment. If I was any less... for lack of better word, frightenable, I probably would've screamed out loud.

                                                                                                                                                            So yes, this game is quite creepy. Most games will give an honest try at being scary, but this game actually achieves thanks to some really high quality sound effects, art design, and general atmosphere.

                                                                                                                                                            Another one of those moments later in the game:

                                                                                                                                                            You walk up to a desk that has some random stuff, and turn around, and there's a guy staring there. And he just poofs. Litteraly. I think there's more but I can't remember them.

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                                                                                                                                                              Posted 18 September 2007 - 07:38 PM

                                                                                                                                                              Awsome, im getting this game tomarrrow, cant wait to play it :)

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                                                                                                                                                                Posted 18 September 2007 - 08:46 PM

                                                                                                                                                                View PostNosferatu, on Sep 18 2007, 05:18 PM, said:

                                                                                                                                                                Another one of those moments later in the game:

                                                                                                                                                                You walk up to a desk that has some random stuff, and turn around, and there's a guy staring there. And he just poofs. Litteraly. I think there's more but I can't remember them.

                                                                                                                                                                I think that was the first Houdini Splicer you meet in the game. He's all like "Hello, chum!" and disappears.

                                                                                                                                                                By the way, do you think the tattoo's on Jack's wrists are a reference to the metaphorical "Great Chain" that Andrew Ryan always talks about?

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                                                                                                                                                                  Posted 18 September 2007 - 09:02 PM

                                                                                                                                                                  View PostWind Dude, on Sep 19 2007, 12:46 PM, said:

                                                                                                                                                                  I think that was the first Houdini Splicer you meet in the game. He's all like "Hello, chum!" and disappears.

                                                                                                                                                                  Oh, I was wondering what Nos meant back there. XD

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                                                                                                                                                                    Posted 18 September 2007 - 09:33 PM

                                                                                                                                                                    ...Wow. BioShock just spliced me. I went to go use the bathysphere, and the game freezes.

                                                                                                                                                                    And I made that law to my self to always save a lot...

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                                                                                                                                                                      Posted 18 September 2007 - 09:35 PM

                                                                                                                                                                      wow, that sucks. How far away was the last save area?

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                                                                                                                                                                        Posted 18 September 2007 - 09:36 PM

                                                                                                                                                                        It sounds like the Bathysphere was the save area.

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                                                                                                                                                                          Posted 18 September 2007 - 09:37 PM

                                                                                                                                                                          The last save was the autosave. (I PRAISE THE MAN WHO FIRST THOUGHT OF AUTOSAVES.) It saved when I got into the area. And the area wasn't exactly the hardest. At least Achievements don't dissapear when it freezes. Mmm... achievements.

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                                                                                                                                                                            Posted 19 September 2007 - 06:19 AM

                                                                                                                                                                            If you want something creepy WD, play F.E.A.R.

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                                                                                                                                                                              Posted 19 September 2007 - 06:21 AM

                                                                                                                                                                              That's OLD'D.

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                                                                                                                                                                                Posted 19 September 2007 - 06:28 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                ... Screw you.

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                                                                                                                                                                                  Posted 19 September 2007 - 06:29 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                  Can't hide from the truth. Now, excuse me while I go play Doom II.

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                                                                                                                                                                                    Posted 19 September 2007 - 09:11 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                    View PostAquamarine, on Sep 19 2007, 05:19 AM, said:

                                                                                                                                                                                    If you want something creepy WD, play F.E.A.R.

                                                                                                                                                                                    If you want a real first person shooter, try Duke Nukem!

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                                                                                                                                                                                      Posted 19 September 2007 - 09:19 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                      It has strippers that you can pay to strip. Best game EVER.

                                                                                                                                                                                      Though I think I'll wait for Duke Nukem Forever.





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                                                                                                                                                                                        Posted 20 September 2007 - 05:23 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                        I remember Duke Nukem 3D. Used to play it all the time when I was a kid. It was so awesome.

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                                                                                                                                                                                          Posted 20 September 2007 - 03:39 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                          Aahhh, I finally got my copy of Bioshock (I order my games from USA, and it takes two weeks to get here... in times like this, it sucks to live on a small Island).
                                                                                                                                                                                          I'll be posting my impressions soon. Thank God this wasn't a 360 exclusive!

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                                                                                                                                                                                            Posted 20 September 2007 - 04:03 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                            The first level in Bioshock is perhaps the most cinematic. They really gave you the feeling like "oh my god... where the hell I am? What kinda place is this?"

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                                                                                                                                                                                              Posted 20 September 2007 - 10:01 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                              Wow, I got my copy yersterday. Its so awsome. The pl;asmids are so cool, they ad an amount of strategy uniqe to FPS's.
                                                                                                                                                                                              Big Daddies are overrated though. Im playing on Medium, and I can take one out pretty easily.
                                                                                                                                                                                              My favorite weapon is the shotgun, but it doesnt have enough ammo :)

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                                                                                                                                                                                                Posted 20 September 2007 - 10:04 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                View PostDarkSword, on Sep 20 2007, 09:01 PM, said:

                                                                                                                                                                                                My favorite weapon is the shotgun, but it doesnt have enough ammo :)

                                                                                                                                                                                                Welcome to Rapture. Where enemies are plenty and ammo is scarce.

                                                                                                                                                                                                I found the dentist place WD was talking about. I nearly **** my pants when I turned around.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                  Posted 20 September 2007 - 10:19 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                  Yeah. that was scary, but as soon as i entered the room, recognised it as the room WD was talking about, so i wasnt completely suprised. It still scaryed the heck outa me though

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                                                                                                                                                                                                    Posted 20 September 2007 - 10:48 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                    DS, wait until you see Rosies. You'll see them in Neptunes Bounty, and they are tough. Bouncers are easy, as long as you have room you can dodge their tackles without much difficulty, but for Rosies it doesn't matter.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                      Posted 20 September 2007 - 10:57 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                      Yeah, i fought the rosies already, they arent that tough. the machine gun works great against them. The Big Dadies are easy to beat with the Blast Shot and the Electric Shot. I hate those turrets though, i almost always die against them unless i can get the shock blast on them. Lucky for Vita Chambers :)

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                                                                                                                                                                                                        Posted 21 September 2007 - 04:00 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                        Let me get this straight... you think Rosies are easy but you die because you can't shock a stationary turret?

                                                                                                                                                                                                        Each to their own, I guess.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                          Posted 21 September 2007 - 10:56 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                          meh, I take lots of photos. It gives me damage bonuses. Plus the shotgun....
                                                                                                                                                                                                          Im a good hacker though, its so easy. Unless its like that for everyone.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                            Posted 22 September 2007 - 12:20 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                            View PostDarkSword, on Sep 21 2007, 09:56 PM, said:

                                                                                                                                                                                                            meh, I take lots of photos. It gives me damage bonuses. Plus the shotgun....
                                                                                                                                                                                                            Im a good hacker though, its so easy. Unless its like that for everyone.

                                                                                                                                                                                                            I use the wrench a lot more then anything. Incendiary bolts against Big Daddys are great.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                              Posted 22 September 2007 - 04:57 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                              Wow, a non-Nintendo game to have such a popular topic on GSSF. The balance of the world is being disrupted!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                Posted 23 September 2007 - 12:24 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                Nah, hacking's easy, particularly for the first half of the game. But it does suddenly get a lot harder. This is where plasmids for slowing down the flow speed and difficulty come handy.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Posted 23 September 2007 - 02:49 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                  hacking's for baddies

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Posted 23 September 2007 - 01:58 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                    If that's the case, pros must die all the time in Bioshock.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Posted 23 September 2007 - 03:56 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                      As with any good game, there'll probably be a handful of vets out there who are unbelievably good at playing.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Posted 23 September 2007 - 05:09 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                        I was supprised at hyow easy the final boss was on medium, ill have to play it on hard after i teach my dad how to play

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Posted 02 October 2007 - 06:56 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                          http://www.halolz.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/bioshock_lolcat_3_by_afairjudgement.jpg
                                                                                                                                                                                                                          http://www.halolz.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/bioshock_lolcat_6_by_afairjudgement.jpg

                                                                                                                                                                                                                          So yeah...

                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Hey Eugine, got this game yet?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Posted 02 October 2007 - 07:53 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                            http://www.goldensun-syndicate.net/forum/public/style_images/gssv3/snapback.png' alt='View Post' />Wind Dude, on Oct 2 2007, 05:56 PM, said:

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Those are made out of SO much win!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Posted 02 October 2007 - 08:09 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                              yea. I got to play it sometime though.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                              But with WoW (admittably addicted x.x) and school, I hardly have time for other games :lol: ... Example, I still have 4 badges in Pkmn Pearl x.x (and I was such a Pokefreak <<)
                                                                                                                                                                                                                              I'll test it out this weekend.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Posted 05 October 2007 - 04:51 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                In case you're interested, I found a rather comprehensive Bioshock guide by Gamespot. It covers everything from weapons and research, to enemies and the game itself. You should really check it out:

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                I'd link you to the Gamespot download, but you have to subscribe. :P

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Posted 06 October 2007 - 01:59 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  *installing bioshock demo* =/ How much in americaland does the game cost?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Posted 06 October 2007 - 02:01 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    http://au.gamespot.c...heckprices.html

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Posted 06 October 2007 - 02:10 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      thanks

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      I don't have enough RAM or a good enough video card according to system requirements. Not even minimum req.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Posted 06 October 2007 - 02:14 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        The console version costs ten bucks more, but judging from comparison videos, the graphics actually look a bit sharper on the 360.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Posted 06 October 2007 - 10:01 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Bioshock looks better on my PC than on 360.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Posted 06 October 2007 - 02:13 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            http://www.gametrail...ayer/23827.html

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            The framerate, water and shader effects all look better on the 360.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Posted 06 October 2007 - 02:22 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              I didn't even see a difference... water on the PC looked beter at the end.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Here, GameSpot had an article...

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              I'd say they look pretty much the same, but PC looks just a little bit sharper thanks to high-resolution computer monitors. Unless you have DX10, in which case BioShock certainly would look better on a PC to a 360.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Posted 06 October 2007 - 02:26 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Look at the turbulence of the water at about 0:10. Look how shinier it is on the 360.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                HD Version

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                And then look at the link you just posted. Mouse over the first image, and you'll see that the water behind the right window is rendered with about twice as much detail.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Posted 06 October 2007 - 02:32 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  It does, but shinier doesn't necessarily mean better. I've heard people complain that the water looked sort of fake at the beginning. It's opinion I guess. I could've sworn the water looked more like the 360 version on my PC... damn that my PC doesn't work now, or I'd load up BioShock to find out.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  But if you're willing to sacrifice some FPS, BioShock does look better on the PC with all the eyecandy on.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  And look at the comments for the video. Some people say Xbox looked better, some said PC. :P No one could really tell.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Off-topic a bit. Does anybody else think that the final boss battle felt like something out of a Metroid game?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Posted 06 October 2007 - 02:34 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Alright then, another example. The two wrenches at about 0:40. The two tommy guns at 0:52. Those weapons practically look real on the 360.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    I don't have anything against your rig, I'm just trying to make a point here.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Posted 06 October 2007 - 02:39 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      It looks to me like whoever was recording on the PC was using a lower resolution than 360. Hence, why everything on the 360 looks clearer. Also looks like they turned the gamma up on the PC, so that everything is brigher, making shadows look less crisp. I could be wrong about this, but I can swear BioShock looks better on my PC than that vid shows.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      ...*cries over dead PC, caresses the tower*

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Posted 06 October 2007 - 02:41 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Hm...how about you show me a screenshot? And for the record, that wasn't a particularly high quality video in the first place.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Posted 06 October 2007 - 02:46 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          I've only got two. Both with craptacular lighting taken in a dark corridor so I don't know if you can compare. Plus, I may have turned Global Lighting on, which is inaccurate lighting that comes straight from one source (read: not dynamic)

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          ^ I know for a fact that one has Global Lighting on. Note how light is coming through a closed door.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Posted 06 October 2007 - 02:50 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Bioshock doesn't have some sort of pre-rendered screenshot option, does it? Because that last one looks every bit as good as the 360, except that jaggy door on the right.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Posted 06 October 2007 - 02:54 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Really? I didn't like that screenshot, some other parts of the game looked much better. Also, I editted this in later, but that screenshot has Global Lighting rather than Dynamic Lighting, notice how light is going through a door that is closed.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              And I dunno what you mean by pre-rendered screenshot. I took that with FRAPS.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Posted 06 October 2007 - 02:57 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Pre-rendered is a screenshot that's been edited to look too good to be true. eg.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                And if other parts of the game look better as you say, do snap them.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Posted 06 October 2007 - 02:58 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Haha, no that was straight from my game.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Posted 06 October 2007 - 04:51 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Yeah. BioShock does look better on a PC. Then again, most games do. Oblivion and BioShock are the best games to show that.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Posted 06 October 2007 - 06:36 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      I want's Bioshock. And for some reason, it reminds me of that underwater level of story mode in Timesplitters 3. Probably becuase Bioshock is kinda...set underwater.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Posted 11 October 2007 - 06:19 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Bioshock is an excellent singleplayer experience, however the game is rated far too high in review scores. The reason why I say this is because Bioshock lacks anything but a singleplayer experience. There's no co-op, there's no multiplayer, there's no nothing. Back in the day this would be okay, however if anyone has been keeping up with the times lately it's pretty much becoming a requirement to also have a good multiplayer in order for your game to be successful and complete. We play singleplayer games for a while and eventually get bored, for the majority of gamers it's multiplayer which gives a game replay value. Half-Life was an awesome game, but Counter-Strike ensured that people constantly remembered how awesome it was.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Halo had a good singleplayer, but it's the multiplayer that helped the franchise get so infamous. Bioshock's singleplayer is far better than Halo 3's in my opinion, but Halo 3 also offers up to four players online campaign co-op, one of the best online multiplayers on a console, forge mode which is basically a level editor that can be accessed online with other players in real time, theatre to watch all the times Nemphtis teabags you after an assassination and finally Bungie.net which becomes the topping for the cake. I think Edge magazine gave Bioshock the fairest score - 8/10. It's an awesome game, but in this generation it takes more than a good singleplayer to win over the masses.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Posted 11 October 2007 - 06:27 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          I'd say that's debatable. I absolutely love a game that has a great single player mode. BioShock is a game that I could play multiple times by using different plasmids and strategy, and either harvesting or rescuing Little Sisters for example.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Games that have strong multiplayer modes are fine and dandy, but that's never going to be the selling point for me, particularly in FPS where there are people who stay home from work to play and can own me in three headshots. While it's true that games that have online multiplayer have a longer lifespan than those that don't, it will be a sad day when single player games like BioShock are gone in favor of games that are all about multiplayer

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Posted 11 October 2007 - 06:46 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            It's not debatable, it's the ever-changing tide of the industry. The only thing debatable here is going to be who can understand this truth and who cannot. Someone also said the same thing you said, how they could play the game again using separate plasmids etc. How many times will you play it again, three times, eight times, ten times at best would you say? Compare that to say, how long people have been playing a MOD such as Counter-Strike, and maybe that will make my point slightly more clear to better understand.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Also some of you will try and provide a singleplayer game which is way more popular than something such as Counter-Strike or something, and tell me that I'm obviously wrong when _____ is only a singleplayer game but people played it to death. My answer to do that is simple; I bet the game you're going to provide as an example isn't something very recent, and even if it is there's a high probability that the majority of gamers didn't play it again and again as much as you have. Why am I saying only recent games count? Because this trend for multiplayer gaming has only recently begun in full force.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Posted 12 October 2007 - 04:59 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              pE0ple pLayded SuPr maRIO bro.s 3, moRr than CS f00!1

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Posted 12 October 2007 - 10:10 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Which should I get first, Halo 3 or Bioshock? Considering when I first get my 360, I wont have internet access, so i'm looking at Bioshock, but Halo...

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Posted 12 October 2007 - 12:48 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  BioShock.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Posted 12 October 2007 - 01:17 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Even though I've played neither, I would also suggest Bioshock.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Posted 12 October 2007 - 02:24 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Didn't feel like writing a post to answer Anubis but here it is

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Multi-player games have longer hours of potential play than those that are single-player only, I can understand that. But what I don't understand is why do all games need to have a major multi-player mode. How many multiplayer games do you need to buy? There's Halo, there's Gears of War, Counter-Strike, FEAR, too many for me to name. And there's more coming. Do we really need to own that many online multi-player games? And while I haven't played all those titles, I really doubt that they all have features that are very different from each other (except maybe Gears) to justify purchasing each of them for their multi-player experience. So I doubt that multi-player will be as major as a lot of people will think.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Actually, the only presence for online multi-player so far has been PCs (has had online multi-player for a long time) and the Xbox/360. The PS3 may join in soon, but will anybody care? The PS3 is still a huge waste of money and it looks like it won't get a lot better in the coming months, no exclusives worth anything. The Wii and the DS have yet to see a real killer of a multi-player game. Their Friends system makes me cry, and the matchmaking modes are even worse.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      So what I'm trying to say is, bring on games with great single-player modes. I've played more than 300 hours of Oblivion, looking to play some more BioShock as soon as my computer is fixed, and also Zelda when I get a Wii. And if I feel like having a battle with some friends, I'll turn to Crysis when it comes out. But I don't need 5 different games that all promise me some "great online modes" when I have great single player games such as those.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Posted 13 October 2007 - 12:28 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        View PostCaael, on Oct 12 2007, 04:10 PM, said:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Which should I get first, Halo 3 or Bioshock? Considering when I first get my 360, I wont have internet access, so i'm looking at Bioshock, but Halo...

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Help plox.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Bioshock has a better singleplayer experience, so if you won't have Xbox Live then I suppose that will be a good choice. However if you have any brothers who also play videogames, Halo 3 might still be a better idea thanks to the co-op, forge and multiplayer.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Aquamarine said:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Even though I've played neither, I would also suggest Bioshock.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        What the **** is wrong with you people? Why are you even speaking out of your ass if you've never played either game to begin with? You're all complete gaming nubs, no idea what the hell you're talking about half the time.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Didn't feel like writing a post to answer Anubis but here it is

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Multi-player games have longer hours of potential play than those that are single-player only, I can understand that. But what I don't understand is why do all games need to have a major multi-player mode. How many multiplayer games do you need to buy? There's Halo, there's Gears of War, Counter-Strike, FEAR, too many for me to name. And there's more coming. Do we really need to own that many online multi-player games? And while I haven't played all those titles, I really doubt that they all have features that are very different from each other (except maybe Gears) to justify purchasing each of them for their multi-player experience. So I doubt that multi-player will be as major as a lot of people will think.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Actually, the only presence for online multi-player so far has been PCs (has had online multi-player for a long time) and the Xbox/360. The PS3 may join in soon, but will anybody care? The PS3 is still a huge waste of money and it looks like it won't get a lot better in the coming months, no exclusives worth anything. The Wii and the DS have yet to see a real killer of a multi-player game. Their Friends system makes me cry, and the matchmaking modes are even worse.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        So what I'm trying to say is, bring on games with great single-player modes. I've played more than 300 hours of Oblivion, looking to play some more BioShock as soon as my computer is fixed, and also Zelda when I get a Wii. And if I feel like having a battle with some friends, I'll turn to Crysis when it comes out. But I don't need 5 different games that all promise me some "great online modes" when I have great single player games such as those.


                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        You make it sound as if people are just beginning to realise about the need for multiplayer. I've played every game you mentioned there except for Crysis, and each was an enjoyable multiplayer experience in its own right. As for claiming that Gears of War is the only multiplayer game that will stand out, you obviously haven't got much experience in the console industry's multiplayer scene.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Multiplayer is becoming more and more necessary. There will always be exceptions to this rule such as Oblivion which doesn't need one as that's half of the magic, but a game with multiplayer means a game that's played far more often after the singleplayer is completed. Haven't you yet realised, more and more videogames are being released which are multiplayer-only.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Battlefield and Shadowrun for example, a trend is starting here where it's not just MODs that are lacking singleplayer. Online gaming is the new wow factor for consoles, even the little Wii allows you to play online which further proves my point. The reason why online gaming is the new trend is simply because online competitive gaming is generally much more enjoyable and challenging compared to playing against the computer.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Whether you can come to terms with it or not, the reason why Bioshock is already becoming a distant memory for gamers is the simple fact that there was no multiplayer in the game, no replay value. "Bioshock? Yeah, that game rocked." That's it, that's as far as the conversation will go. "Halo 3? Man I was doing some matchmaking yesterday with six of my friends and we were owning everyone! I blew up this Warthog with my Spartan Laser and got a triple kill!" and that's as obvious as my point can get.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Posted 13 October 2007 - 12:39 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Bioshock it is. I <3 Amazon with their disregard for proof of age.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Posted 13 October 2007 - 12:40 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Updated my above post with a response to multiple *****es.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Posted 13 October 2007 - 12:45 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              This is a difficult choice then. It all depends on how much money I have at the time, I might buy both, I might buy Bioshock. The only thing holding me back on Bioshock, is as Nemphtis said, the lack of replay value and no multiplayer, which is always a big no without multiplayer.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Posted 13 October 2007 - 12:51 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                View PostCaael, on Oct 13 2007, 06:45 PM, said:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                This is a difficult choice then. It all depends on how much money I have at the time, I might buy both, I might buy Bioshock. The only thing holding me back on Bioshock, is as Nemphtis said, the lack of replay value and no multiplayer, which is always a big no without multiplayer.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Perhaps buy Bioshock and get Halo 3 afterwards. By the time you finish Bioshock you may have enough money to buy Halo 3, however then your line-up of games will consist of two shooters, which is a boring combination. Might want to spread out to other genres so you don't become a one of those *** genre noobs who only play RPGs but think they know everything about games and ****.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Posted 13 October 2007 - 01:17 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  View PostNemphtis, on Oct 13 2007, 08:28 PM, said:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  What the **** is wrong with you people? Why are you even speaking out of your ass if you've never played either game to begin with? You're all complete gaming nubs, no idea what the hell you're talking about half the time.


                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Hey, let's not get personal now. :P ****head...

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Posted 13 October 2007 - 01:27 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    View PostAquamarine, on Oct 13 2007, 07:17 PM, said:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Hey, let's not get personal now. :P ****head...

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Silence, fool. From here on out, you are an official GSSF gaming noob. That's worse than a fanboy, because at least fanboys know something about Nintendo, where as you don't know jack. So unless in the future you say or do something which makes me re-consider, your name is now gaming noob.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Posted 13 October 2007 - 01:31 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      ... Oh no, poor me. I'm a GSSF noob.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      And calling me a fanboy is hardly an insult when I actually admit I'm one.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Posted 13 October 2007 - 01:42 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        View PostAquamarine, on Oct 13 2007, 07:31 PM, said:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        ... Oh no, poor me. I'm a GSSF noob.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        And calling me a fanboy is hardly an insult when I actually admit I'm one.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        I've already told you gaming noob, you cannot be a fanboy due to your lack of knowledge. Until of course, you prove otherwise.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Posted 13 October 2007 - 01:45 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Oh yeah? Ask me something! Not here though, this isn't the topic... Perhaps in TRT?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Posted 13 October 2007 - 02:42 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            There are things that you can't fully embrace in gaming with multi-player games. I just don't want great single-player games to go away. BioShock was a work of art, not just from a gaming standpoint, but a true, genuine work of effort. You don't see much emotional value in video games, but BioShock had that and it's something that I'd like to see in video games again.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            BioShock's story was amazing and it put the player in an interesting perspective. You honestly don't have many choices to make in BioShock, it's limited to either harvesting or rescuing little sisters. But the game gives you the illusion that what you do makes a difference, the game puts you in a situation where "you're ordered to murder three people. How does that make you feel?" "Is Atlas screwing me over?" "Is Tenebaum screwing me now?"

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            You don't see anything like that in a multi-player game.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Posted 13 October 2007 - 10:07 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              View PostWind Dude, on Oct 13 2007, 08:42 PM, said:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              There are things that you can't fully embrace in gaming with multi-player games. I just don't want great single-player games to go away. BioShock was a work of art, not just from a gaming standpoint, but a true, genuine work of effort. You don't see much emotional value in video games, but BioShock had that and it's something that I'd like to see in video games again.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              BioShock's story was amazing and it put the player in an interesting perspective. You honestly don't have many choices to make in BioShock, it's limited to either harvesting or rescuing little sisters. But the game gives you the illusion that what you do makes a difference, the game puts you in a situation where "you're ordered to murder three people. How does that make you feel?" "Is Atlas screwing me over?" "Is Tenebaum screwing me now?"

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              You don't see anything like that in a multi-player game.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Of course you don't, that's why games have a singleplayer mode. I'm not saying gamers don't want singleplayer games any more, you're going beyond the point I initially tried to make. I'm trying to say that more and more gamers are demanding more complete packages in their games, they don't want to fork out $50 for a singleplayer experience by itself, they want it to include multiplayer to enhance the replay value and continue the experience.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              There's a reason why I just rented Bioshock, played it until I eventually got bored and returned it. People like me don't want to spend money on one night stand experiences. The $50 is only well-spent if I'm playing that game for weeks, perhaps months or even years depending on the quality.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Posted 13 October 2007 - 10:21 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Honestly, if a game doesn't have multiplayer I usually dislike buying it unless it's Final Fantasy (which I collect). I just usually pass them around with my friends to make up for the lack of replay value.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                I agree with Nemp. Multiplayer = really important now. Me and my friends still play Bond and Melee together.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Posted 13 October 2007 - 10:28 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  I don't like playing games against 30 year olds who live in their mom's basement and play ALL DAY. It just isn't fun for me as I don't have the patience to hone the skills to have any fun playing.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Posted 13 October 2007 - 10:46 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    You could just set up a private game for you and your friends. I hardly play games outside my friends circle.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Posted 13 October 2007 - 10:53 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Most people I know aren't much of PC gamers. I remember when I used to play Maple Story, it was terrible as everybody else that I knew irl played so much more than me and got higher levels that I did.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Posted 14 October 2007 - 10:03 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        View PostNemphtis, on Oct 13 2007, 07:51 PM, said:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Perhaps buy Bioshock and get Halo 3 afterwards. By the time you finish Bioshock you may have enough money to buy Halo 3, however then your line-up of games will consist of two shooters, which is a boring combination. Might want to spread out to other genres so you don't become a one of those *** genre noobs who only play RPGs but think they know everything about games and ****.



                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Two shooters is enough for me, I dont like too much of one genre. I'm also buying Eternal Sonata and 99 Nights as well, and Assassins creed when it comes out.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Posted 14 October 2007 - 11:12 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Ninety Nine Nights is ****ing awful, no idea where you got that idea from.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Posted 14 October 2007 - 11:46 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            I need a good Slash em up, and Dynasty Warriors has never caught my interest, so it was the next best thing.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Posted 14 October 2007 - 11:14 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              View PostCaael, on Oct 14 2007, 05:46 PM, said:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              I need a good Slash em up, and Dynasty Warriors has never caught my interest, so it was the next best thing.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Even the game demo bored everyone to death, N3 blows.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Average score ratio: 63%

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Posted 15 October 2007 - 12:52 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Would you reccommend anything else? Devil May Cry 4 isn't out for ages.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Posted 05 November 2007 - 01:12 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Bump. I'm definately getting this game at some point with my xbox. It's too good to miss.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Posted 12 November 2007 - 11:12 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Bump again. Reply, dammit!


                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    I need this game. Just watched a crap load of stuff on GT on Bioshock, and it looks stunning. This is a game I will certainly be getting.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Posted 12 November 2007 - 12:31 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      I'm not sure what you want us to say... that's good to hear, Caael?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Posted 12 November 2007 - 12:45 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Good point...I just wanted to tell people just that.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Posted 12 November 2007 - 01:07 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Wish I could say more but I've been wasting 65 hours of my life playing TP. Now I'm going to waste 5 hours of my life playing Heavenly Sword. ;) Still, let us know when you actually buy it.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Posted 12 November 2007 - 01:07 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            I will.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Posted 14 November 2007 - 03:12 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              I ordered it today.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Hooray!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Posted 16 November 2007 - 05:11 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Hahah, my mum had a massive ***** at me when she found out that a) I was spending money i'm supposed to be saving to pay for the 360 and :) I bought an 18 rated game.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Posted 16 November 2007 - 05:16 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Worth it?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Posted 16 November 2007 - 05:16 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Funk yeah!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Posted 21 November 2007 - 10:00 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      *******s! They sent me a japanese version! Not only that, but Halo 3 doesn't work and DOA is copied. 3 out of my 5 games dont work!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Posted 21 November 2007 - 01:50 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        I'd say that you have a right to complain.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Then again, you're not old enough to buy Bioshock in the first place, so...

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Posted 21 November 2007 - 03:26 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Wth they said that it works fine on their console, which is a LIE because unless they've modded it, it cant play anything other than PAL games. Plus it's in japanese.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Dirty liar.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Posted 21 November 2007 - 05:04 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            That sucks Caael. Seriously, I wouldn't want to be you right now.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            WD, what weapon upgrades would you recomend for Hard difficulty?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Posted 21 November 2007 - 05:29 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Caael, you got owned.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              I'm alternating between Creed and COD4. What's your gamertag? If you have Live that is.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Posted 21 November 2007 - 05:39 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Caael was metaphorically inter-raped.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Posted 21 November 2007 - 05:52 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Quite the ****ty deal.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Caael, you got Live? If so gamertag damnit.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Posted 21 November 2007 - 06:03 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    View PostDarkSword, on Nov 21 2007, 03:04 PM, said:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    That sucks Caael. Seriously, I wouldn't want to be you right now.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    WD, what weapon upgrades would you recomend for Hard difficulty?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Perhaps hypocritically I haven't played Bioshock in a long time. So I don't even remember half of the upgrades. How about a faster pump for the shotgun?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Posted 22 November 2007 - 09:41 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      The people are being very nice about it though. Aparantly it does play in English, and they're letting me test it out to see if it works, and if it doesn't, they will send me the English version.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Posted 05 December 2007 - 02:51 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Just thought I'd bring this up. There is an "expansion" for Bioshock coming out this week. It offers a new pPasmid and some Tonics. Plus the "Brass Balls" achievement for beating the game through on the hardest difficulty.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        WD, does the PC BioShock have achievements, or was that not added into it?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Posted 05 December 2007 - 06:44 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          I play it on Windows XP, so I don't have Live or a Gamertag, so I wouldn't know. Achievements are pointless anyway.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Posted 05 December 2007 - 07:39 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Any idea what the new plasmid is?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Posted 05 December 2007 - 08:00 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Yup, since it came out today.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              It's called Sonic Boom or something. I'll check it out in a minute.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Posted 05 December 2007 - 08:10 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Someone please explain. Downloadable content? Screw it, going to google.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Posted 05 December 2007 - 08:11 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  *Twidles thumbs*

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Posted 05 December 2007 - 08:15 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    So let me get this straight, DLC comes with the new (finally) patch?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    I've been thinking about playing Bioshock again. Looks like I finally have a reason to.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Posted 05 December 2007 - 08:16 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      I hate to ask, but what's DLC? Is it the name for the expansion?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Posted 05 December 2007 - 08:20 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        DLC = Downloadable Content.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Posted 05 December 2007 - 08:21 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Ok, I get it now.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Posted 05 December 2007 - 08:59 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            It's a bit of an eh DLC. It's free, so it's what I expected I guess.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Posted 05 January 2008 - 08:41 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Okay firstly it's not an expansion pack, it's downloadable content which is something else. Secondly it's free, but it's also not worth starting the game again just to check them out. The main item you'll get is the Sonic Boom plasmid which pretty much sucks. Seriously, why would I want to push an enemy back like a fairy when I can burn his ass, freeze his ass and shock his ass instead.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              There are also some gene tonics, and one of them is cool but the rest aren't noteworthy. One of the gene tonics greatly reduces prices on vending machines when you have it equipped, meaning you can worry less about ammo consumption and just enjoy shooting the crap out of everything. All in all, the DLC isn't anything special but at least it's free. The UPDATE however is awesome, as it makes Bioshock true wide-screen and let me tell you, this really enhances your overall experience with the game so check it out.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Posted 05 January 2008 - 08:43 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Bioshock is freaking awesome. Havent played much because I havent been playing 360 much in general, but what i've seen so far is amazing. The graphics are awesome, its like sightseeing underwater.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Posted 23 February 2008 - 01:51 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Revived.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  So yeah, aparantly i'm pretty far now. I'm in Fort Frolic taking pictures of dead dudes for that guys masterpiece.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Posted 23 February 2008 - 01:54 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    I want to play this again. Maybe after I'm done borrowing MGS3. I'm going through a revival of my old games. <_<

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Posted 23 February 2008 - 02:05 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      If only it had some form of multiplayer...

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Posted 23 February 2008 - 02:07 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        I like BioShock that it's a good single player and not focused on multiplayer. *sneeze* Halo, Call of Duty... *wheeze*

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Posted 23 February 2008 - 02:09 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Only because you like Campaign over multiplayer. But Bioshock is one of those games that should stay single player and not be multiplayer. It would take away from the single player experience and make it not as good.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Posted 23 February 2008 - 02:10 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            I'd rather play a good singleplayer than a multiplayer. Less jerks in singleplayer, less cheaters too. <_<

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Posted 23 February 2008 - 02:39 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              But multiplayer is more fun. I find the multiplayer in Halo 3 to be much more enjoyable than the campaign. And there's not THAT many cheaters, just a select few who cant win by conventional methods. And everybody gives them bad feedback so they get banned :B

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                That's because the campaign in Halo 3 sucks.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  That too <_<


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