[Sea of Time]

I guess the pre-release question is simple enough: Will Halo 3 be the best selling game of all time, or is the 360 too small a market for this to happen?

Personally, I don't see Halo 3 coming close to the Halo 2 numbers. Not all Xbox owners necessarily bought a 360, and there aren't enough 360 owners to push the numbers past Halo 2.

What's your opinion?

[Someone Else]

I dunno. Plenty of Halo 2 fanboys bought a 360 to get Halo 3. And I like what I've seen of Halo 3 so far, if I had a 360 I'd pick it up in a heartbeat. The Forge feature of online play looks appealing.

But to answer your question I'll say that I hope it passes Halo 2, as Halo 2 was not nearly as good as the first. Crappy weapon balance.

[Sea of Time]

I refuse to believe that every Xbox owner who had Halo 2 went out and bought a 360 Halo 3. And there's no way that newcomers will push the numbers over.

[Mallick]

wtf?

nintendo topics only, please, christ

[Sea of Time]

The 360 is a console, last time I checked. Try adding something useful next time.

[Mallick]

nintendos have consoles too, last time i checked, try to be relevent next time

[Sea of Time]

Here's a plan. Shut the **** up.

[Someone Else]

Well then, you don't leave much room for debate huh? Halo has met a lot of hype since Halo 2 was released, and Master Chief is probably bigger than Mario for the mainstream pop culture. I'm positive Halo 3 will pass Halo 2 one day, though it probably won't sell as much as fast, I'm sure the numbers will get there.

[Nosferatu]

Sea of Time, on Sep 23 2007, 09:34 PM, said:

Here's a plan. Shut the **** up.

Good plan.

Well, I'll be occupied for a few days on Tuesday. Then I'll be back late Wednesday after I beat the campaign, and so the wait for Assassin's Creed will start.

I've said it before. I'm not a big fan of multiplayer. I'll most likely watch videos I download of matches instead of actually playing multiplayer.

[Toasty]

Multiplayer is the best part. Every Halo party I've been to has been awesomesauce.

Halo 3 will be good, and I'm pretty confident that it'll sell just as, or almost as fast as Halo 2. But in the end, Halo 3 will sell more copies. My friend will be getting it the day it's out, so hopefully I'll get to play it the weekend after he gets it. I'd buy it myself, but I know for a fact that the likelyhood of me getting a 360 is 0.

[Golden Legacy]

Halo 2 set a record not just for the gaming market, but for the entire entertainment industry; it made something like $130 million+ on its first day of sales (up until then, the only thing that had come close to that number was the release of the sixth Harry Potter book, the Half-Blood Prince).

I don't think Halo 3 will be able to match that as quickly, but I do think with all the hype (and all the great reviews it's gotten), it will eventually surpass its predecessor in every way.

[Aquamarine]

I'm absolutely sure Halo 3 will sell like crazy, but being the highest selling game of all time? I highly doubt it. Still, only time will tell.

[Nickelback]

People reckon the number of pre-sales alone have already passed the best selling game ever :P
Halo fanboys are so bad, the only reason Halo was so good was because the Xbox had a mega lack of decent games. And to be fair the Multiplayer wasn't that bad, I suppose Xbox Live helped as well. But I really hate the kids who reckon they love Halo because of the gripping storyline, what FPS ever has a good storyline!

[Someone Else]

One word (or two?): BioShock. BioShock has the most interesting story that I've seen in a videogame, ever. Better than RPGs, I'd even say. And the way it was presented was just genius.

So it's unfair to say that FPS can't have a good storyline. Halo's storyline is pretty good, but I don't think it's as great as most people make it out to be. And Halo pretty much perfected shooters for consoles, before that shooters were supposedly only good on PCs. (with a few exceptions, of course)

But yeah, Halo's totally overrated. It's a good game, but it's overrated. Like GTA rofl.

[Ironsight]

FPS's can have good story lines. Halo's was ok, i liked it. And like WD said, BioShock's storyline is wonderful. But yeah, most shooters dont have storylines as good as that. But if you wanted a game with a good storyline, then buy an RPG instead of a shooter.

[gsninja]

I never did like the Halo series that much, and I've played both Halo and Halo 2 a decent amount of times. I don't think Halo 3 deserves all the hype and the praise it's getting now. I'm not saying it's going to be bad. This is my opinion of it.

However, if I had a 360, I would probably buy the game nonetheless, just to try it out at the least.

[Someone Else]

What I personally like about Halo:

Great fun at parties. All rockets is crazy frantic fun, and I like the idea of 4 player co-op in Halo 3. I don't think most shooters have great multiplayer for parties like Halo does.

Shields. This is a big thing Halo has that other shooters don't. You take damage, and if you take too much damage at one time your shields go down leaving you exposed, and too many hits while exposed means you die. Your shields will recharge as long as you don't take damage. This means you need to observe where your enemies might be and think about good places for cover in big battles, and possibly stealth rather than relying on a large amount of health (Metroid) or expecting your enemies to drop health packs (Metroid and lots of other shooters).

Vehicles. They're so much fun, and I don't think many shooters have vehicles. And if they do they're not as good as Halo's. Warty's and Ghosts are fun.

You guys talk a lot about how you dislike Halo, but I have yet to hear a reason why. I'm not a Halo fanboy, and it does have it's flaws like any game. But it's still good, and literally millions of fans can't be wrong.

[Toasty]

Wind Dude, on Sep 24 2007, 09:27 PM, said:

What I personally like about Halo:

Great fun at parties. All rockets is crazy frantic fun, and I like the idea of 4 player co-op in Halo 3. I don't think most shooters have great multiplayer for parties like Halo does.

My favorite thing about the series. ^

But seriously, if I had to choose between a Halo party and a Brawl party, I'd choose the Halo one, despite the fact that I'm far better at SSB than Halo.
That's not to say that I don't like SSBB, but if it came to playing videogames with a large group of friends, I'd rather play Halo.

[Ironsight]

The recipie for the best Halp party game ever:
MAP: Blood Gulch
WEAPONS: Rocked Luancher and Sword
GAME TYPE: Slayer
KILL LIMIT: 100 kills

trus me, you wont stay alive foe more than three seconds on these settings :P

[Lemontime]

Looks fun.
'Nuff Sed.

[Nickelback]

Wind Dude, on Sep 25 2007, 02:27 PM, said:

You guys talk a lot about how you dislike Halo, but I have yet to hear a reason why. I'm not a Halo fanboy, and it does have it's flaws like any game. But it's still good, and literally millions of fans can't be wrong.

You have good points, no one should try to argue that. Halo is fun at parties, did heaps for console shooters, and the vechiles were a different, decent touch.
My main beef with Halo is the fanboys. They ruin it. They overhype it and cut down anyone who says 'yea it's good, but so what?'. It is overhyped massivly, and no one can argue that.

[Split Infinity]

I've just been viewing some screens, and I've noticed that the detail of the weapons and the lighting effects are pretty much all that's been changed visually, although they do look pretty amazing.

[Sea of Time]

But the game designers know what they're doing. Even when you graphically change simple things like that, it makes the entire game look a whole lot more breathtaking. The graphics blow me away for Halo 3, and I can't wait to see this game in action. To my friend's house!

[Someone Else]

Spam King, on Sep 25 2007, 05:20 AM, said:

I've just been viewing some screens, and I've noticed that the detail of the weapons and the lighting effects are pretty much all that's been changed visually, although they do look pretty amazing.

Nah, forests look lusher, indoor lighting is more realistic, surfaces shine better, and of course everything has more polys. Actually, graphically this generation of gaming should just be about lighting. Like photography, light has a big thing to do with the image. Halo 3 and BioShock show that.

[Split Infinity]

I already mentioned the lighting effects. But true, the forests have been overhauled quite a bit.

[Toasty]

Sea of Time, on Sep 25 2007, 09:30 AM, said:

But the game designers know what they're doing. Even when you graphically change simple things like that, it makes the entire game look a whole lot more breathtaking. The graphics blow me away for Halo 3, and I can't wait to see this game in action. To my friend's house!

Ditto to the entire thing. *goes to friend's house*

@wD: I completely agree with that. But only as long as they continue to come up with origional gameplay stuff.

The day that developers cease to make creative gameplay, is the day that videogames die.

[Nosferatu]

Halo 3 is made of win. The saving of videos, the campaign, the multiplayer, the FORGE *bows in the presence of the name*. Buy it. 11/10.

[Toasty]

I'm gonna try and make one of those really long chain reaction type thingies in the Forge when I get the chance. :P

[Ironsight]

I feel rather stupid being the only one here that doesnt know what the FORGE is D:l

[Split Infinity]

Me too...

[Ironsight]

I feel stupider being on the same boat as Split

somebody tell us what FORGE is dammit! i dont care if its a spoiler!

[Folcon]

If I had to guess, this FORGE is either a map set, or some sort of weapon creation system. But since I don't play Halo, I don't give a damn.

[Lemontime]

It's a map editor thing.
You can edit the map while your friends play it.

'n' ****..

[Aquamarine]

Nosferatu, on Sep 26 2007, 03:49 AM, said:

Halo 3 is made of win. The saving of videos, the campaign, the multiplayer, the FORGE *bows in the presence of the name*. Buy it. 11/10.

So you liked it more than BioShock and Corruption? Wow, that's surprising... Though maybe it shouldn't be. Or did Microsoft pay you too?! :P

[Someone Else]

If you remember from the past two Halo games, you could create "gametypes" for multiplayer where you can edit what vehicles/weapons are in the game's map as well as edit whether or not shields are in play, what your motion detector can see, camo, and other stuff I may have forgotten.

The Forge in Halo 3 takes this a step (more like a jump) further. It is, for all intents and purposes, a map editor, but not quite as large as "map editors" for PC shooters like Half-Life 2. You can't edit terrain height or anything, (we can't make a mountain in the middle of Blood Gulch :P ) but what you can do is adjust position of spawn points, set the time for individual spawn points, lay down vehicles and weapons wherever you want, and adjust ammo for spawned weapons. You can also spawn other stuff besides weapons in the Forge, teleporters, and the Fusion Core which explodes when you shoot it or if it drops from a long height, and random crates and barrels.

It might not sound like a whole lot, but there is serious potential when it comes to good ol' ****ing around. Like one player riding in a Warthog while another player picks up the Warthog in the Forge and sends him on some kinda magic carpet ride. Or building a pyramid out of Fusion Cores around an enemy base and then shooting it, resulting in a huge explosion. What's cool is that all the players can use the Forge, so I think it can be chaotically fun.

Demonstration: http://www.youtube.c...h?v=F77i0Rd_z7Q

[Split Infinity]

All players can use the Forge in the middle of gameplay? THAT'S BLOODY AWESOME!

[Someone Else]

Yah. You can also create multiplayer games that aren't Forge, so if you want to play seriously that's the way to do it if you don't want some random guy trying to throw Fusion Cores at you.

[Nosferatu]

BioShock, MP3 and Halo 3 are all on the same boat for me. They're all something special. I'm just saying that Halo 3 is pretty good. Except the second to last level. Ugh...

[Split Infinity]

Wow, they're already making trick vids for Halo 3.

http://www.gametrail...ies/111515.html

[Toasty]

Perfect Halo 3 party:

16 players
4 teams of four
Forge Slayer (50 kills)
1 "Forger" per team (basically a support guy)

FREAKING AWESOME.

[Split Infinity]

Have you tried that before?

[Toasty]

No. But I'm sure as hell going to!

[Split Infinity]

Grrr, when will they convert this game to PC so I can illegally donwload it?

[Someone Else]

Mr.T, on Sep 27 2007, 06:10 PM, said:

Perfect Halo 3 party:

16 players
4 teams of four
Forge Slayer (50 kills)
1 "Forger" per team (basically a support guy)

FREAKING AWESOME.

I think only 8 people can be in a Forge game.

Either that or only 8 people can be IN the Forge at the same time... Nosferatu, could you clarify this?

[Ironsight]

Yahar, just got my Halo 3: $65 at Target

Unfortunatly, Ill have to wait until Monday to play it, sinve my 360 is at my Dad's place

[Split Infinity]

Why not just grab it and bring it back to your own house?

[Ironsight]

'cause my Dad has strong fealings about what goes at who's house

[Caael]

I might be getting a 360 soon, because Wii is really boring, and there's only like 4 games I want for it ( Corruption, Brawl, Galaxy, Mario Kart Wii). Whereas with the 360 theres loads of quality games out there that look pretty cool.

When I get a 360, Halo 3 is one of the top games on my list.

[Ironsight]

Try Resident Evil 4 for the Wii, shooting stuff is fun!

[Split Infinity]

Caael, on Sep 29 2007, 09:13 AM, said:

I might be getting a 360 soon, because Wii is really boring, and there's only like 4 games I want for it ( Corruption, Brawl, Galaxy, Mario Kart Wii).

Oh, er...can I borrow it then? :P

[Someone Else]

Screw you, I want it more.

[Split Infinity]

I have eighty bucks, Caael.

[Someone Else]

I've got $325.

Oh, and a TV along with for that would be nice.

[Split Infinity]

I can offer you candy. ENDLESS CANDY!

[Toasty]

PH4IL.

I hope you can have 16 people in forge at a time, because 8 isn't enough.

[Nosferatu]

Nope pretty sure only 8.

Me and my friend were doing some co-op, and we went with a weird plan. I took the hornet, and he drove a warthog. (We were against two scarabs.) I pick him up eventually in the hornet, and fly him over the first. He destroys it, and just as it blows, he gets on and we fly the other one and do the same thing. And escape that explosion JUST in time.

http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/6483/escapemy7.png

[Split Infinity]

Is this in Halo 2?

[Caael]

Spam King, on Sep 29 2007, 02:19 AM, said:

Oh, er...can I borrow it then? :P

The Wii or 360?

[Split Infinity]

The Wii, unless you have Bioshock.

[Caael]

It's one of the games I will be getting. I'm gonna do some research and see which games are worth buying. I'm not going to want thousands of shooters, Halo and Bioshock will do. And 360 has some pretty good RPGs I hear.

[Aquamarine]

That's what you hear? Yeah, it has Blue Dragon which is... okay and soon it will have Final Fantasy. The Wii will have Fire Emblem, Soul Calibur Legends, a new Tales of Symphonia, Crystal Chronicles and so on. It will have awesome RPG's.

[Someone Else]

360 will also have Fable 2, which will hopefully be as good as Lionhead says it will be this time.

[Toasty]

Spam King, on Sep 29 2007, 01:51 AM, said:

Is this in Halo 2?

Halo 2 doesn't have hornets, and you only encounter one scarab that you can actually destroy.

That was Halo 3 he was playing.

And Fable was a pretty good game from the short time that I spent playing it.

[Nosferatu]

Mr.T, on Sep 29 2007, 03:07 PM, said:

That was Halo 3 he was playing.

Considering this is the Halo 3 thread, it would make sense eh?

[Split Infinity]

So where are people getting this beta anyway?

[Someone Else]

I think it was promotional, buy a certain game (I forget which ones) you get the Halo 3 BETA.

But nobody's playing the Halo 3 BETA anymore, it's all about Halo 3 these days!

[Nosferatu]

Wind Dude, on Sep 29 2007, 04:50 PM, said:

I think it was promotional, buy a certain game (I forget which ones) you get the Halo 3 BETA.

But nobody's playing the Halo 3 BETA anymore, it's all about Halo 3 these days!

It came with Crackdown for a while. It's been over since before summer started.

[Split Infinity]

Halo 3 is out already? Sweet.

[Someone Else]

Where have you been..?

[Mallick]

I haven't gotten to play it because my friends are jackasses. I watched them beat it over a span of 7 hours though. They claimed it was on heroic but it looked awful easy for heroic.

[Folcon]

I'm posting this link here because it has some real nice screens from Halo 3 after the comic.

[Toasty]

Spam King, on Sep 29 2007, 04:55 PM, said:

Halo 3 is out already? Sweet.

OMFG. Split lives in a cave. No doubt about it.

But seriously. Where do you live that you wouldn't hear about Halo 3 being out since just last Tuesday?

[Split Infinity]

I don't look at gaming sites, like most of you probably do.

[Eugine]

I really don't believe that.

And Halo 3 was talked about on practically every news outlet I look at (even BBC news <<), anyone who likes games, or stays current with 'impt' world news, should have heard of Halo 3.

[Split Infinity]

Well I don't care if you don't ****ing believe it, it's the truth.

[Eugine]

yea. You could read up on KH somewhere, but not Halo.

[Split Infinity]

Why are you arguing with me over something so trivial? Just accept it and STFU!

[Eugine]

Alright.

So anyone/played owns Halo 3, do you think this game is a 'must buy'?

[Nick Presta]

It's a must buy game if you like the Halo series. If you hate the series, then no, don't buy it :P

If you have a 360, you should really buy, or at least rent, Halo 3. I'm sure everyone on your friend's list is playing it and even if you don't have Xbox Live, local/system link custom matches are fun and co-op is great.



http://www.bungie.net/stats/halo3/default....yer=ElitEchelon
The fact that I can save clips or screenshots from the game and you can visit Bungie's site to view them, is awesome. I love it. (http://nickpresta.at...es/headache.jpg)
Oh and there seems to be a brief period, perhaps 24 hours, where your experience points aren't updated. I have 35 experience points, it only shows 26 =(

[Someone Else]

I'm pretty convinced GameSpot's being paid to hype Halo 3. Every other article is all Halo, Halo, Halo! I don't see IGN doing this.

[Aquamarine]

You don't see... On the day Halo was released, all five of those little news squares at the top of the page were about Halo. One was for their review, the other was for some new trailers, another for an interview with the creators or something...

Microsoft's paying them ALL.

[Eugine]

I agree MS is paying them all! xD
To even lower Nintendo and Sony exclusives ratings <<

Nah, I don't believe it. I just think the reviewers just prefer games like Halo. Shooters in general.

[Aquamarine]

And that's why Corruption got low scores, right? Metroid Prime 3 is a shooter too, if slightlu different like Bioshock. WHY wouldn't Microsoft pay them all? They have more than enough money to do so and they want to win so badly, so tell me one reason why they wouldn't do that.

[Eugine]

The first two MP got excellent reviews on GameSpot. I guess they generally dislike the direction Nintendo took the Wii. That may cause a ripple effect on all their games score.

And why would MS pay them? That'll ruin their reputation (and surely GameSpot) if this ever leaked.

I can't believe it. <<

[Aquamarine]

Reputation? You really think MS gives a damn about their reputation? They want to win the console wars, simple as that. If their reputation gets a little hurt along the way, why would they care as long as paying helps the games and console sell better.

As for GameSpot, money can persuade ALL people. EVERY person in the world, no matter how respectful and stuff they are, would give in to a large quantity of money. As long as they got a ****load of cash, why would they care about the site's reputation?

[Caael]

Why would Microsoft pay a gaming site just to give them a better review? The majority of the population probably wouldn't check IGN/Gamespot before buying a game. I know I dont.

[Someone Else]

I think they might be paying to get all those damn articles in. I don't know about bribing for better reviews or lower other game's reviews...

[Ironsight]

This game was made by the gods. The only thing I didnt like was that

Spoiler

most of the main charecters get killed off at the end

[Toasty]

I'll check those sites for reviews on games that I've heard about and sound interesting to me, but I've never based my descision on what they say. I'd prefer to rent the game first, but sometimes it just feels better when you buy the game and then play it for the first time.

[Ironsight]

It literaly feels different from playing a game you just bought, compared to playing a game that youve heard about online

[Toasty]

Moreso from a game you just bought, to a game you've played before. However little time you spent playing that game.

[Split Infinity]

The previous two posts made no sense to me whatsoever.

SoT - Then why bother posting? Try to add something relevant next time.

[Aquamarine]

Caael, on Oct 3 2007, 10:55 PM, said:

Why would Microsoft pay a gaming site just to give them a better review? The majority of the population probably wouldn't check IGN/Gamespot before buying a game. I know I dont.

I can see what you're saying, but many MANY people check reviews before buying a game. Statistics say that people will usually buy the top two or so best games in a specific genre(RPG, Racing...) in one year. I mean, people MUST be checking out reviews a lot since there are so many game sites. I used to always read reviews before buying a game, but now I do that far less.

[Caael]

I know, but paying them just for a game on a site, it's pathetic.

[Aquamarine]

Fine, you can think what you want. I don't think it's pathetic for Microsoft to want to be the leader in one of the most profitable markets in the world.

[Split Infinity]

But using money to make their games look better than they are is pathetic. I mean, why would they need to pay Gamespot anyway? Halo 3 is a surefire seller no matter what the case.

[Sea of Time]

Companies are given marketing budgets for a reason. What you're essentially saying is that Budweiser doesn't need to have tv commercials anymore because it's the most popular beer. That certainly isn't true, so why should marketing Halo 3 on a gaming site be trivial?

[Split Infinity]

Marketing is different from word-of-mouth. Gamespot is a word-of-mouth community, only much larger. They're the sort of people you can trust. With marketing, you can interpret what you see in whatever way you want, based on your personal opinion.

[Toasty]

Exactly (omg...I'M AGREEING WITH SPLIT?!).

In any one commercial, they're advertising/informing people about ONE thing. The item/service/event that they're trying to sell/promote.

On a site like gamespot or IGN, there are MANY different items being talked about or promoted. And they aren't all from the same company. So if they're promoting one thing more than the others, it's not right and they're being biased. Something that no word of mouth site should do.

[Split Infinity]

I'm ALWAYS right. :P You just put it into better words.

[Nosferatu]

Hmm. I don't like Gamespot anyway.

Anyway, I'm going to go cry in the corner. I really don't want to do the second to last level on Heroic, let alone Legendary.

[Aquamarine]

Spam King, on Oct 4 2007, 11:23 PM, said:

But using money to make their games look better than they are is pathetic. I mean, why would they need to pay Gamespot anyway? Halo 3 is a surefire seller no matter what the case.

I can think of many words that I would use, but pathetic is not one of them. Look, you guys have got to understand, EVERYTHING is about money. Everything! Nintendo can claim as much as they want that their main objective is to make original and innovative games, but that's not true. Making cold hard CASH is their main objective. They can say that their greatest wish is for all companies to make innovative games, but that isn't true either. Their greatest wish is to have a monopoly over the gaming market, and when it comes to video games, that is Microsoft's greatest wish too.

Tell me Split, do you think it's just a coincidence that all five of those little news squares at the top of IGN's pages were all about Halo 3 on the day it was released? People look at gaming sites A LOT more than any of us think and many of them only buy games that get the highest scores.

And please don't go on about how GameSpot and IGN can be trusted completely and that stuff. No "corporation", for lack of a better word, can be trusted completely because they are ran by humans, and humans will always want MONEY above all else. It's just the way the world works. You may think I'm paranoid or something, but I'm speaking the truth.

But don't get me wrong, I'm sure Halo 3 would have got excellent reviews even had MS not payed anybody. Just not as glorious and radiant as they are now.

[Nosferatu]

Well holy crap. It's the split I never saw coming. Bungie splits apart from Micrsoft.

http://xbox360.ign.c...5/825215p1.html

[Split Infinity]

Aquamarine, on Oct 6 2007, 01:41 AM, said:

And please don't go on about how GameSpot and IGN can be trusted completely and that stuff. No "corporation", for lack of a better word, can be trusted completely because they are ran by humans, and humans will always want MONEY above all else. It's just the way the world works. You may think I'm paranoid or something, but I'm speaking the truth.

That's a very narrow view of the world. What do you think would happen if all the major governments became corrupt and existed only to earn money? If humans didn't possess basic morals, our entire civilisation would simply collapse.

[Someone Else]

Let's not talk about the way that the human mind works on a Halo 3 topic... k?

Nosferatu, on Oct 5 2007, 09:58 AM, said:

Well holy crap. It's the split I never saw coming. Bungie splits apart from Micrsoft.

http://xbox360.ign.c...5/825215p1.html

Vague. Bungie is split from Microsoft, but they'll still pretty much work exclusively with them???

[Toasty]

Aquamarine, on Oct 5 2007, 08:41 AM, said:

humans will always want MONEY above all else.

If I had my own game rateing organization like IGN or GS, I could care less about how much money I was payed, I wouldn't let it influence my reviews, or the reviews of my subordinates. Anyone caught being bribed would be fired. Plain and simple. A site like that shouldn't be there to bring in money, it should be something that is maintained by a group of people in their spare time. If you want money, you get a job, or you start your own company (not a game rateing site, a company).

But maybe the Bungie split means that we could get Halo 3 for the Wii? :P

[Someone Else]

Hmm, I can't imagine dual-wielding on the Wii.

[Split Infinity]

It would either involve dual Wiimotes, or a single Wiimote controlling a shared crosshair, with two seperate trigger buttons.

[Aquamarine]

Halo is owned by MS. End of wet dream.

Spam King, on Oct 5 2007, 10:57 PM, said:

That's a very narrow view of the world. What do you think would happen if all the major governments became corrupt and existed only to earn money? If humans didn't possess basic morals, our entire civilisation would simply collapse.

... You're an idiot, nuff said.

@Toast: You can't be sure you wouldn't take the money until that actually happened. I can say the same about myself, but who knows what I would really do if someone wanted to give me more money than I expected to be offered.

[Split Infinity]

So like...you'd be happy to assassinate your best friend if it meant fabulous wealth?

[Aquamarine]

Of course not. I said people would do almost anything. Note the almost. The almost is your friend. Do not avoid the almost.

And now I can say that I'm sure I wouldn't do anything I shouldn't for a large sum of money, but I can only say that when I turn down said money. And who really knows if I would turn it down? I'm human, after all.

[Split Infinity]

So you're saying that every single member of Gamespot would be agreeable with boosting reviews in exchange for a bribe, and that none of them would have reported the matter to an exterior source?

[Someone Else]

Can we talk about something else now?

[Aquamarine]

I love it when people say "Can we change the direction this conversation is taking plz?" but don't do it themselves.

Spam King, on Oct 6 2007, 12:57 PM, said:

So you're saying that every single member of Gamespot would be agreeable with boosting reviews in exchange for a bribe, and that none of them would have reported the matter to an exterior source?

Hm... I haven't exactly thought about it like that... But my answer would probably be yes. Some would require a larger amount of money than others though.

Back on topic: I'm glad Bioshock got better reviews than Halo. I think it's more deserving, seeing as it's so innovative.

[Someone Else]

It did? Show me plox.

[Aquamarine]

It has a higher rating on GameRankings. I can't bother checking the scores, but I know IGN gave Bioshock 9.7 and Halo 9.5. However, GameSpot gave Bioshock 9 and Halo 9.5. I wonder why...

[Someone Else]

I think I talked about that. I don't know if it was this topic. But Jeff Gerstmann (sp) reviewed Halo 3, BioShock, and Twilight Princess. Read all those reviews, really think about those games and what he said, and you'll spot something a little strange.

I'm not saying GameSpot or Jeff are being bribed, I'm just smelling a little favorism. Halo 3 isn't a whole lot different than other shooters or the Halos before it, much like Twilight Princess isn't a whole lot different than the Zeldas before it, BioShock however is different than other shooters. Shouldn't that mean that Twilight Princess should have gotten a similiar rating to Halo 3 (or vice versa), and BioShock should have scored higher than both of those?

But enough about this... NOSFERATU TALK ABOUT HALO

[Caael]

Sea of Time, on Oct 4 2007, 10:25 PM, said:

Companies are given marketing budgets for a reason. What you're essentially saying is that Budweiser doesn't need to have tv commercials anymore because it's the most popular beer. That certainly isn't true, so why should marketing Halo 3 on a gaming site be trivial?

It's not marketing though, it's bribery. Marketing budgets should go to making top quality adverts for the game, not paying somebody to rate it higher.

On another note, i'm (hopefully) getting my 360 with Halo 3 in the box with it, so fingers crossed for me.

[Nosferatu]

Wind Dude, on Oct 6 2007, 10:52 AM, said:

But enough about this... NOSFERATU TALK ABOUT HALO

You *****. You took post 117.

I just beat it on Legendary last night. Seemed easier.

[Caael]

How does that work?

[Sea of Time]

Well looks like Halo 3 did make more money in its first day than Halo 2 did. I'm not sure if this is due to the "limited edition" sets that were twice as much and obviously inflated the sales figures, or that more people actually did buy it. I haven't seen units numbers yet, so that should be the judging factor.

[Aquamarine]

It has the most pre-orders for any game ever, something like 1.7 million. Finally a game that beat Wind Waker for pre-orders.

The highest selling game of all time sole 40 million copies. Does anyone truly think Halo 3 can sell more than that?

[Caael]

Well what are the figures for xbox 360 sales? It it's under 40 million, then there's no chance of halo beating it, as...well people aren't going to buy 2 copies of halo.


Edit: 11 mil 360s, yeah I dont think Halo will win.

[Aquamarine]

Don't forget there will also be a PC version. I still think it's impossible for Halo 3 to beat 40 million.

[Eugine]

Aquamarine, on Oct 7 2007, 08:17 AM, said:

It has the most pre-orders for any game ever, something like 1.7 million. Finally a game that beat Wind Waker for pre-orders.

The highest selling game of all time sole 40 million copies. Does anyone truly think Halo 3 can sell more than that?

I think Halo 2 was the most pre-ordered game before Halo 3.

Anyway, I doubt Halo 3 will sell 40 million copies. I do believe it has a chance of being the best selling game this generation though.

[Sea of Time]

That highest selling game of all time is Super Mario Bros. It sold 40 million units, meanwhile Halo 2 has only sold 9 million. Mark my words, Halo 3 has NO CHANCE of selling 40 million units.

[Toasty]

Hah. Nintendo's got the best selling game of all time. TAKE THAT SONY!

Aquamarine, on Oct 6 2007, 03:33 AM, said:

@Toast: You can't be sure you wouldn't take the money until that actually happened. I can say the same about myself, but who knows what I would really do if someone wanted to give me more money than I expected to be offered.

I'd rather work for my money rather than just win it or bribed with it. That, and I've actually got some integrity.

[Nosferatu]

Dude of Wind, on Oct 7 2007, 03:08 PM, said:

Hah. Nintendo's got the best selling game of all time. TAKE THAT SONY!

I like you. You get the "Don't kill" badge. And a cookie.

There is no way H3 could outsell a classic. It's logically impossible.

[Aquamarine]

Dude of Wind, on Oct 8 2007, 12:08 AM, said:

I'd rather work for my money rather than just win it or bribed with it. That, and I've actually got some integrity.

Yeah yeah, so everyone would say...

Personally, I think there is only one game that can outsell Super Mario Bros. and that's Wii Sports. I mean, it comes packaged with every Wii console, so if Nintendo manages to sell over 40 million Wii's then they'll automatically sell over 40 million Wii Sports'.

[Caael]

Remember, in Japan Wii sports is separate and doesn't come with the Wii.


Why are we discussing Wii?

Halo, yeah, saw some of those in-game captures today on a forum. Looks sweet, gotta get live.

[Split Infinity]

SMB will be outsold eventually. Populations, dude.

[Eugine]

Records are made to be broken.

[Toasty]

And then broken again by SSBB. :P

I won't get a chance to play it this weekend since my friend is going to Illinois for his brother's graduation ceremony from boot camp. Hopefully next week.

[Golden Legacy]

Nosferatu, on Oct 5 2007, 12:58 PM, said:

Well holy crap. It's the split I never saw coming. Bungie splits apart from Micrsoft.

http://xbox360.ign.c...5/825215p1.html

Wind Dude, on Oct 5 2007, 06:16 PM, said:

Bungie is split from Microsoft, but they'll still pretty much work exclusively with them???

Probably means that they'll be second party now, sort of like Naughty Dog which is almost entirely Sony exclusive, etc.

[Someone Else]

Check it out:

http://gameroom.mlgp...iew/yueGon0msMc

lolz! Whether or not that was staged is debatable. I just think it's funny.

And this is just weird:


http://gameroom.mlgp...iew/c2o6PCbPBhA

[Toasty]

Physics engines ftw.

But since when does master chief sound so ghey when he dies?

[Split Infinity]

And since when do sniper bullets bounce? Those are both pretty incredible.

[Someone Else]

Dude of Wind, on Oct 12 2007, 11:58 PM, said:

But since when does master chief sound so ghey when he dies?

I was kind of wondering that myself, but I guess it's hard for even Master Chief to sound cool when he's all hurting and dying.

Another one!
http://gameroom.mlgp...iew/rhojIAED55g

[Nemphtis]

Since there's a ten page topic on this, I assume at least a few of you have Xbox Live to enjoy this game. So anyone who would like to be completely owned by Nemphtis just send me a friend request over Xbox Live and make sure you attach a message telling me who you are otherwise I'll think you're a Nintendo *** and decline it. The gamertag is obviously Nemphtis, so if you were going to ask then shame on you *****.

[Caael]

I'll play you as soon as I get my 360. But i'll suck, as i've only ever played Halo 1&2 at my mates. And for some reason, my ex.

But yeah, i'd like to see how bad I actually am compared to the regular live crowd.

[Nemphtis]

Caael, on Oct 14 2007, 03:17 AM, said:

I'll play you as soon as I get my 360. But i'll suck, as i've only ever played Halo 1&2 at my mates. And for some reason, my ex.

But yeah, i'd like to see how bad I actually am compared to the regular live crowd.

I'll ease you into the game with some social slayer. If you've played Halo then it will all feel familiar as soon as you pick up the controller. Your only issue with controls will probably be getting used to the X button no longer being used for reloads.

[Nosferatu]

Nemphtis, on Oct 13 2007, 09:10 PM, said:

I'll ease you into the game with some social slayer. If you've played Halo then it will all feel familiar as soon as you pick up the controller. Your only issue with controls will probably be getting used to the X button no longer being used for reloads.

I got used to that pretty quick. Radar jammer when storming the flag ftw.

[Toasty]

I wish I had a 360. Even my friend who has Halo 3 doesn't have live though. But that sticky was AWESOME WD.

[Caael]

Nemphtis, on Oct 14 2007, 05:10 AM, said:

I'll ease you into the game with some social slayer. If you've played Halo then it will all feel familiar as soon as you pick up the controller. Your only issue with controls will probably be getting used to the X button no longer being used for reloads.

Cool, thanks. I hardly think that adjusting to not using the Black and white buttons is going to be difficult.

WD, that was awesome.

[Nemphtis]

Caael, on Oct 14 2007, 11:23 AM, said:

Cool, thanks. I hardly think that adjusting to not using the Black and white buttons is going to be difficult.

WD, that was awesome.

You'd be surprised actually. I'm a gamer who adjusts to new challenges quickly, but I've been very bothered about having to press the D-pad to communicate. The white button was great because it was easy to reach without affecting my movement or aiming, however to press the D-pad I need to take my hand off the left stick which means standing still.

I hit skill level 32 last night on matchmaking, it's great how the level of challenge has greatly increased at this point. Back when I was skill level 1-20 I was coming first in most games and even if I didn't it was only by a close margin. When you get over level 20 things get tough, your opponents are closer to your personal skill level and you're not coming first as often as you once were.

[Toasty]

I'm presumeing that the skill level has something to do with XBL?

[Nemphtis]

Dude of Wind, on Oct 14 2007, 09:02 PM, said:

I'm presumeing that the skill level has something to do with XBL?

When you play Halo 3 you have two choices for matchmaking. You can play for fun on Casual where you gain experience points for winning but don't acquire any skill points, or you can play Ranked matchmaking where you get experience and skill points. Basically it's a system so that you play against people close to your skill level, instead of playing in a server full of nubs who you will own easily.

[Toasty]

Or in my case a server full of 21 year old's who live in their parent's basements and can easily wipe the floor with my ass. :P But it sounds like a really good idea. Something that could keep Brawl's online from sucking, which hopefully it won't, but probably will.

Anyway, I might get to finally play Halo 3 this weekend.

[Golden Legacy]

Poor movie sales for October are being blamed on Halo 3.

Link

[Aquamarine]

Halo 3 made more money on the first day than Spiderman 3 and Deathly Hallows did.

[Someone Else]

Movies are history! Bring on games! :silence:

Kidding. Well not really, I'd rather play a new game than see a new movie.

The new movies these days are pretty crap, though.

[Ironsight]

Nobody in Hollywood has an origional idea anymore. All of todays movies are just remakes of old moveis, or based on comic books. With only a few exceptions.

[Someone Else]

What I was saying, I'm sure it has nothing to do with the fact that the most recent movies have been mostly garbage. Let's blame Master Chief.

[Ironsight]

Blame the Flood

I. HATE. LEGENDARY. MODE.

[Toasty]

Pfft. I beat ledgendary on Halo 3 in under an hour. And that was last night. E.A.S.Y.
I almost got a chance to play it today, but then my friend realised that he had a lot of homework to catch up on after being gone since last thrusday. CURSE YOU EVIL CREATOR OF HOMEWORK!

And Live Free or Die Hard was one of the best movies I've seen in a good long while, so though most of the new movies are crap, there's still a few really good ones.

[Nosferatu]

DarkSword, on Oct 16 2007, 03:19 PM, said:

Blame the Flood

I. HATE. LEGENDARY. MODE.

I beat Legendary On January 1st, 1795.

[Someone Else]

I played Halo 3 on Sunday at a friend's. Played maybe for 4 hours, not enough to get have a general opinion. The Mongoose and Hornet are both fun vehicles, though.

[Toasty]

I'll be playing it tomorrow. DEFINATELY going to try ledgendary mode and get my ass handed to me for it. :(

[Nosferatu]

I was playing online Team Slayer with a friend. 4 on 4. Him and the two others on my team were crowded around a window trying to shoot a guy on the other side. I threw a grenade, without knowing they were there, through the window. Here's what it looked like:

Quote

You commited suicide.
You betrayed BaracadeB17.
You betrayed Boni67.
You betrayed jhazul.

[Ironsight]

Nice

[Caael]

Hahahah! What a kill, Nose.

[Ironsight]

You diserve a cookie, here
*Gives Nos a cookie*
What did your freinds say?

[Caael]

He doesn't deserve a cookie, he deserves a medal.

[Ironsight]

Fool, cookies are better than medals!

[Someone Else]

I sold my soul for a cookie. Man, it tasted so good.

[Ironsight]

I bet it did. I bet it tasted like souls. Nos, what do souls taste like?

[Toasty]

I played it yesterday. Went through half of the campaign on easy by myself *cough*, and then the whole thing with my friend on normal. Though I know he could easily have beaten it on heroic orledgendary without me.

ANYWAY. After that, we spent two and a half hours in forge on that one map that's got the beach, and the SAM pod with only one SAM in it, and a gate, and a bunch of other stuff (I think it was the map available in the Halo 3 demo). We stacked a ton of fusion box thingies in a pile in front of the SAM pod, and made a trail that led from the pile to that one gate where we put a bunch of propane tanks and two mongooses. Then he held on fusion box thingy high in the air directly above to pile, and I shot it just after he dropped it.

The result? A fusion bomb/chain reaction that could kill anyone in the middle of the bunker area, and then kill them again with flying propane tanks. The mongooses are a sort of lure that brings you in and then spontaneously blows your body to pieces. And it did this EVERY TEN SECONDS. n.n

We called it E.O.D.

[Nosferatu]

DarkSword, on Oct 21 2007, 01:06 AM, said:

I bet it did. I bet it tasted like souls. Nos, what do souls taste like?

Those candies shaped like coke bottles.