*~ Poll Added ~* Changing "other Games" Forum Name and Structure
#1
Posted 14 December 2007 - 11:45 PM
EDIT: Seeing the resulting discussion, I'm also making this topic to be general suggestions for changes to the current "Other Games" forum and its subforums, whether it has to do with changing the name or merging the forums/keeping them the way they are.
#2
Posted 14 December 2007 - 11:47 PM
#3
Posted 14 December 2007 - 11:53 PM
#4
Posted 15 December 2007 - 11:22 PM
Video Games
Video Game Discussion
Would people be content with these? I'll put up a poll and have people vote on which one they prefer most.
#5
Posted 15 December 2007 - 11:39 PM
#6
Posted 16 December 2007 - 02:17 AM
#8
Posted 16 December 2007 - 08:29 AM
#9
Posted 16 December 2007 - 09:12 AM
#10
Posted 16 December 2007 - 09:44 AM
#12
Posted 16 December 2007 - 03:07 PM
Water Dude, on Dec 16 2007, 10:29 AM, said:
Aqua, yes it's a very small change, but that subtle difference can go a long way in attracting more posts/users to that specific sub-forum.
Fire Dude, on Dec 16 2007, 11:44 AM, said:
What do you mean by making it "bigger"?
#13
Posted 16 December 2007 - 05:09 PM
#14
Posted 16 December 2007 - 10:33 PM
#15
Posted 16 December 2007 - 10:34 PM
#16
Posted 16 December 2007 - 10:52 PM
That said, how would people feel about the possibility of having just a Nintendo forum (DS, Wii, Gamecube, GBA), a Microsoft forum (Xbox 360, Xbox), a Sony forum (Playstation 3/2/1, PSP), and a PC/Other forum (PC gaming, Macs, Linux, other systems)?
(Just throwing the idea out there)
EDIT: Actually, I just thought of what I think is a pretty reasonable compromise - what if we had just Console/Handheld Gaming, and PC Gaming? This way, we can ensure that the PC games don't get overlooked - also, we would get rid of the "general" gaming forum we have, and just have Console/Handheld Gaming and PC Gaming appear as two separate categories under "Entertainment".
What do people think?
#17
Posted 16 December 2007 - 11:30 PM
#18
Posted 16 December 2007 - 11:34 PM
#19
Posted 16 December 2007 - 11:36 PM
#20
Posted 16 December 2007 - 11:44 PM
#22
Posted 16 December 2007 - 11:51 PM
#24
Posted 17 December 2007 - 06:53 PM
The only problem with that is I'm worried Entertainment would feel cluttered, and you really can't not have a General Gaming forum. But no plan is perfect, and I do like the idea.
This plan gets the WD Seal of Approval as long as it's made clear that you really have to have a General Gaming forum.
#25
Posted 17 December 2007 - 11:13 PM
EDIT: all right, I have one, but I'm not quite sure if it's possible. Now, as before, we have the Entertainment section of the forums - in place of the current "Other Games", we will have two: Console/Handheld Gaming, and PC Gaming - so far so good?
Now, from there, we create a sub-forum called "General Video Game Discussion" (or some other similar name) - however, both the Console/Handheld Gaming and PC Gaming forums link to the same General Video Gaming Discussion sub-forum. In other words, from the main forum page, you can click on either Console/Handheld or PC Gaming, but in each of those forums, the "General Gaming" forum will be on top - and it's the same one for both.
Is that clear/reasonable?
EDIT2: If anyone has any other ideas or suggestions, by all means, please go right ahead.
#27
Posted 17 December 2007 - 11:52 PM
#28
Posted 18 December 2007 - 12:09 AM
How about changing "Other Games" to "Video Games Discussions", and merge the Handheld and Console Gaming forums? You get everything you just described GL, just inverted.
#29
Posted 18 December 2007 - 01:09 PM
DarkSword, on Dec 18 2007, 01:24 AM, said:
Wind Dude, on Dec 18 2007, 01:52 AM, said:
I can't do it myself (only admins can), but I'll forward the idea to Max, assuming he hasn't already read through it.
.eugine, on Dec 18 2007, 02:09 AM, said:
How about changing "Other Games" to "Video Games Discussions", and merge the Handheld and Console Gaming forums? You get everything you just described GL, just inverted.
Well yes, that would work too - but we're also trying to visibly even up the Entertainment section of the forums - having Console/Handheld + PC Gaming on the main forum page (both of them replacing the current "Other Games" forum) would have it more consistent/visually more appealing with "GSSF Square" and such - not to mention, also, that it exposes each forum more and would encourage activity (especially for the PC gaming one, which doesn't have a lot of activity as it is).
#30
Posted 18 December 2007 - 05:35 PM
Given that that is not possible, is the consensus that "Other Games" should be changed to "Video Games," and the Console and Handheld subforums merged? I think that may be the simplest and most effective change, but I'll wait for some feedback before going through with anything.
P.S. And to all you non-moderators, you are getting a taste of what goes on behind the scenes in the moderator forum when we consider changes to the structure and organization of the forums.
#31
Posted 18 December 2007 - 08:40 PM
#32
Posted 19 December 2007 - 08:15 AM
Entertainment Section
- Video Games
- Console/Handheld Gaming
- PC Gaming
- TV & Movies
- Music
- Books & Manga
#33
Posted 19 December 2007 - 02:58 PM
Max, on Dec 19 2007, 10:15 AM, said:
Entertainment Section
- Video Games
- Console/Handheld Gaming
- PC Gaming
- TV & Movies
- Music
- Books & Manga
Yeah, now the thing is the Entertainment section is overloaded and still imbalanced with the rest of the forum.
Max, if it's not possible to create the same sub-forum for two forums before it (if that makes any sense - refer to previous postings), is it possible to have one of those sub-forums link to the other? i.e.
Entertainment Section
- Console/Handheld Gaming; sub-forum General Video Game Discussion
- PC Gaming; sub-forum (same description) that redirects you (^) to the above sub-forum
- Anime, TV, & Movies (while we're at it, let's add in "Anime" since it's a major appeal")
- Music
- Books & Manga
#35
Posted 20 December 2007 - 01:15 PM
Entertainment Section
- Video Games - Subs: Console/Handheld Gaming, PC Gaming
- TV & Movies
- etc.
#36
Posted 05 January 2008 - 08:25 AM
Oh, and can anyone say deja vu?
#37
Posted 28 January 2008 - 06:49 PM
Entertainment
- Video Games subforums Nintendo (Wii, DS, Gamecube, GBA, etc.), Sony (Playstation 3, PSP, Playstation 2, Playstation 1), Microsoft (Xbox 360, Xbox, PC Games).
- TV & Movies
etc.
Now, before I get people going against this, just hear me out. Yes, I realize that the allegience of this forum leans towards Nintendo. Notice how I use the word 'leans', however. If there's anything that I've come to realize in terms of gaming, it's that people actually have played consoles covering the entire range, and in surprisingly large numbers too.
In this way, I feel it would be best - not only do we cover a more diverse gaming interest, but we also (and here's the KEY point) encourage it; if people see that these new subforums covering other consoles/gaming appears, it will give way and simply encourage more posting/discussion. And that would make for both more diversified and many more discussions, which won't exclude anyone.
And of course, we still have the Video Game "general forum" for all Multiformat discussions.
#38
Posted 28 January 2008 - 06:52 PM
#39
Posted 28 January 2008 - 08:50 PM
Golden Legacy, on Jan 28 2008, 04:49 PM, said:
Entertainment
- Video Games subforums Nintendo (Wii, DS, Gamecube, GBA, etc.), Sony (Playstation 3, PSP, Playstation 2, Playstation 1), Microsoft (Xbox 360, Xbox, PC Games).
- TV & Movies
Putting PC games under Microsoft is fail. If you're going to do it that way, give it it's own sub-forum.
#40
Posted 28 January 2008 - 08:51 PM
Sony
Microsoft
Nintendo
PC
Main
#41
Posted 28 January 2008 - 09:00 PM
Otherwise, I agree with WD and Skidz, PC gaming shouldn't be put under Microsoft. It should have its own subforum.
#43
Posted 28 January 2008 - 09:15 PM
Video games -
- Nintendo related discussions
- Other discussions
#44
Posted 28 January 2008 - 09:47 PM
Wind Dude, on Jan 28 2008, 10:50 PM, said:
Skidzorz, on Jan 28 2008, 10:51 PM, said:
Sony
Microsoft
Nintendo
PC
Main
DarkSword, on Jan 28 2008, 11:00 PM, said:
Otherwise, I agree with WD and Skidz, PC gaming shouldn't be put under Microsoft. It should have its own subforum.
Point taken, though I do think it could work either way (simply because the "Microsoft" subforum would only focus on two consoles, plus perhaps the Xbox Live features and Arcade, I felt integrating PC gaming into that would give it more activity). But again, either way works.
DS, "main" just represents all the topics that are outside the subforums, in the "general discussion area". Basically, if you click on "Other Games" right now, all the topics you see on the bottom, without clicking on Console, Handheld, or PC Gaming, that's the "main" or "general" discussion.
Eugine, that suggestion is solid too, I hadn't considered it. It might provide a better transition as we rehaul the Video Games forum.
#46
Posted 29 January 2008 - 01:01 AM
#47
Posted 29 January 2008 - 05:01 AM
#48
Posted 29 January 2008 - 11:33 PM
#52
Posted 30 January 2008 - 07:51 PM
#54
Posted 30 January 2008 - 10:49 PM
I honestly think the way it is now is better than everything suggested =)
"If it ain't broke, don't fix it"
#55
Posted 31 January 2008 - 12:25 AM
I liked it the way it originally was.
#56
Posted 31 January 2008 - 12:42 PM
And I honestly favor the sub-forum breakdown, but I think it was incorrectly done. Console and Handheld discussions are simply not "encouraging" enough. I'm certain that having Nintendo and Non-Nintendo subforums (or Nintendo, Sony, Microsoft/PC ones) does just that - it gives a visual cue and a more reasonable basis for people to post.
I personally favor it. At the very least, let's rename it to "Video Game Discussion", because that is most definitely more inviting than "Other Games".
#57
Posted 31 January 2008 - 01:01 PM
#58
Posted 01 February 2008 - 03:44 AM
#60
Posted 02 February 2008 - 01:24 AM
#61
Posted 02 February 2008 - 05:44 PM
#62
Posted 02 February 2008 - 07:13 PM
The only problem here is that we'll have to move every single topic into their respective catagories again, which is not only time-consuming, but probably requires a specific knowledge of the industry.
#63
Posted 02 February 2008 - 07:46 PM
And don't forget, Mac games DO exist, and last time I checked Microsoft hasn't bought Apple.
#65
Posted 02 February 2008 - 08:02 PM
At any rate, there's still plenty of games out that are on Macs as well as PCs. Like WoW.
#66
Posted 02 February 2008 - 08:05 PM
#68
Posted 02 February 2008 - 08:43 PM
#70
Posted 02 February 2008 - 08:48 PM
#71
Posted 02 February 2008 - 08:51 PM
#72
Posted 02 February 2008 - 08:54 PM
#73
Posted 02 February 2008 - 08:59 PM
Putting PCs under the same category as the Xbox would end up in completely different topics. Think about it. You'd have people talking about Xbox Live and their favorite mods for PCs under the same forum.
It's true that, maybe it would be fine in this community, since Nos and I are really the only PC gamers here and Caael might be the only person dedicated to his Xbox here...
#74
Posted 02 February 2008 - 09:01 PM
Nintendo, Sony, Microsoft, PC sub-forums
Fair enough? This is what I (very strongly) nominate, for reasons already made clear in previous posts.
#75
Posted 02 February 2008 - 09:01 PM
Video Game Discussion
- Nintendo Consoles
- Sony Consoles
- Microsoft Consoles
- PC Gaming
#76
Posted 02 February 2008 - 09:03 PM
#77
Posted 02 February 2008 - 09:04 PM
Handhelds are technically consoles, by the way.
#78
Posted 02 February 2008 - 09:04 PM
#79
Posted 02 February 2008 - 09:06 PM
Well, we do have a description for each sub-forum that I suppose could make it clear.
EDIT: That's a solid point that I never considered. PC's under the General Discussion then, with sub-divisions for Nintendo, Sony, Microsoft? Hmm. Either way would work, I suppose.
#80
Posted 02 February 2008 - 09:07 PM
That would work perfectly.
#81
Posted 03 February 2008 - 12:11 AM
Make the "Video Game Discussion" forum with subforums of Nintendo, Sony, Microsoft, PC games. I think this is the best way to go.
#83
Posted 03 February 2008 - 12:27 AM
Simply merging the Handheld and Console section?
#84
Posted 03 February 2008 - 12:31 AM
#85
Posted 03 February 2008 - 12:33 AM
I think it's just to get a forum structure that works well.
#86
Posted 03 February 2008 - 01:00 AM
#87
Posted 03 February 2008 - 01:09 AM
Anywayz, I hardly see the point creating this huge arse division when we know the Sony and Microsoft section would be largely ignored except for seldom topics. Yeah, in theory it is a good structure, but we know what this forum loves, so I don't see the point trying to FORCE us to discuss other games when we wouldn't.
#88
Posted 03 February 2008 - 01:11 AM
#90
Posted 03 February 2008 - 02:14 AM
#91
Posted 03 February 2008 - 02:57 AM
#92
Posted 03 February 2008 - 03:18 AM
.eugine, on Feb 2 2008, 11:09 PM, said:
Anywayz, I hardly see the point creating this huge arse division when we know the Sony and Microsoft section would be largely ignored except for seldom topics. Yeah, in theory it is a good structure, but we know what this forum loves, so I don't see the point trying to FORCE us to discuss other games when we wouldn't.
I like the Wii, 360, and PS2, so I would be active in all of them to an extent. I'd obviously be more active in the Nintendo section, but only because I have neither a 360 nor a PS2. the PS2 is within my reach though.
And ROFL at WD's post. But I actually agree with Me111 on this one. Though GL's suggestion isn't bad either, the only problem would be the time and effort it would take to impliment.
#93
Posted 03 February 2008 - 03:24 PM
Me111, on Feb 3 2008, 04:14 AM, said:
It is broke though:
Wind Dude, on Feb 3 2008, 04:57 AM, said:
Not quite how I would have put it, but yes.
Toasty, on Feb 3 2008, 05:18 AM, said:
I would take on the task of implementing it, of course. I'll take care of it entirely by myself if necessary.
#94
Posted 03 February 2008 - 04:30 PM
1) Merge the "Console Gaming" and "Handheld Gaming" subforums, to create one subforum. Most of the games that are on handheld systems always have a console counterpart, and since the system here apparently is to have a topic for a series rather than a title, I think it would be welcomed.
2) We create a Nintendo, a "Sony/Microsoft" subforum (only one), and a PC forum. I think the Sony and Microsoft forums if done seperately will be 'filled' with inactivity, and therefore do not need seperate forums. To create some form of extra activity in the PC forum, whenever a game appears on the PC, the topic should be discussed in the PC section (eg Oblivion, Bioshock)
Opinion(s)?
EDIT: I mean INactivity.
#95
Posted 03 February 2008 - 06:07 PM
.eugine, on Feb 3 2008, 06:30 PM, said:
1) Merge the "Console Gaming" and "Handheld Gaming" subforums, to create one subforum. Most of the games that are on handheld systems always have a console counterpart, and since the system here apparently is to have a topic for a series rather than a title, I think it would be welcomed.
2) We create a Nintendo, a "Sony/Microsoft" subforum (only one), and a PC forum. I think the Sony and Microsoft forums if done seperately will be 'filled' with inactivity, and therefore do not need seperate forums. To create some form of extra activity in the PC forum, whenever a game appears on the PC, the topic should be discussed in the PC section (eg Oblivion, Bioshock)
Opinion(s)?
EDIT: I mean INactivity.
Whoa, hold on there - the Nintendo/Sony/Microsoft/PC sub-forum structure will replace the current Console/Handheld/PC sub-forums.
#96
Posted 03 February 2008 - 06:09 PM
#97
Posted 03 February 2008 - 06:14 PM
#98
Posted 04 February 2008 - 01:34 AM
I still support the 4 subforum setup, or leaving things the way they are.
#99
Posted 04 February 2008 - 01:48 PM
So our options for "Video Game Discussion":
- Nintendo, Sony, Microsoft, PC sub-forums
- Nintendo, Sony/Microsoft, PC sub-forums
And perhaps an option to leave it as it is (but I think we've all pointed out over the last several pages that it is, in fact, broken).
Those options good?
#100
Posted 04 February 2008 - 03:11 PM
.eugine, on Feb 3 2008, 02:30 PM, said:
1) Merge the "Console Gaming" and "Handheld Gaming" subforums, to create one subforum. Most of the games that are on handheld systems always have a console counterpart, and since the system here apparently is to have a topic for a series rather than a title, I think it would be welcomed.
2) We create a Nintendo, a "Sony/Microsoft" subforum (only one), and a PC forum. I think the Sony and Microsoft forums if done seperately will be 'filled' with inactivity, and therefore do not need seperate forums. To create some form of extra activity in the PC forum, whenever a game appears on the PC, the topic should be discussed in the PC section (eg Oblivion, Bioshock)
Opinion(s)?
EDIT: I mean INactivity.
That sounds good, since lots of games are shared between the PS3 and 360 anyway. But I don't think that putting specific topics for PC versions of game will do anything for PC activity, so games games on consoles and PC platforms should still go in the main forum.
#101
Posted 04 February 2008 - 05:45 PM
#102
Posted 04 February 2008 - 05:47 PM
#103
Posted 04 February 2008 - 05:50 PM
#105
Posted 05 February 2008 - 09:57 AM
Max, when you read this, it might very well be time to make that change.
#106
Posted 05 February 2008 - 03:12 PM
I think the 4 subfora option with pc games in the main will be the best option.
#109
Posted 05 February 2008 - 07:09 PM
I voted for the "Nintendo, Sony, Microsoft" option with the PC games in the main forum. There aren't that many topics in the PC sub-forum anyway, so it just makes sense.
#110
Posted 05 February 2008 - 07:10 PM
#112
Posted 05 February 2008 - 07:15 PM
Trust me, the only thing in there will be Final Fantasy.
#114
Posted 05 February 2008 - 07:19 PM
I just skimmed through the Gaming forum and there jus THREE Sony related topics in the handheld forum, while only FOUR topics in the console gaming. I don't even think those games were exclusives except Uncharted, and btw, those topics are so dead, better they weren't created >>.
#115
Posted 05 February 2008 - 07:22 PM
I voted Nintendo, Sony/Microsoft and PC subforums since many games made for PS3 and 360 are shared anyway.
#116
Posted 05 February 2008 - 07:25 PM
Same goes for the shard Xbox and PC games...
What a ****ty system if you ask me....
#118
Posted 05 February 2008 - 07:41 PM
#119
Posted 05 February 2008 - 07:44 PM
#120
Posted 05 February 2008 - 07:50 PM
i dont even have a working ps2/xbox anymore T_T
#121
Posted 05 February 2008 - 08:00 PM
#122
Posted 05 February 2008 - 08:13 PM
I say put an option to keep it the way it is and reset the poll.
#123
Posted 05 February 2008 - 08:16 PM
Now that I think of, YA, that is retarded. We should have a keep it the same option.
EDIT-~1400~
#125
Posted 05 February 2008 - 08:35 PM
Golden Legacy, on Feb 4 2008, 07:50 PM, said:
#126
Posted 05 February 2008 - 11:56 PM
#127
Posted 06 February 2008 - 12:20 AM
And think of it this way - this is just a natural progression of the forum. Times change, and so do changes to the forum structure that need to be reevaluated. With the influx of new members, plus a number of significant events occurring (Brawl's release and GS's inclusion in certain aspects, GSW forthcoming), change is simply not only inevitable, but necessary.
#128
Posted 06 February 2008 - 06:34 AM
There are other areas that are much less active and in need of change than the other games forum which is quite active and doesn't seem to have much problem.
#129
Posted 06 February 2008 - 10:26 AM
PDM, on Feb 6 2008, 08:34 AM, said:
There are other areas that are much less active and in need of change than the other games forum which is quite active and doesn't seem to have much problem.
First of all, this change isn't "radical" - remember the original gaming forum, how a few years back it was split up into the sub-forums that exist today? People also saw it as radical and "downright" stupid, but they accepted it in time. The only difference here is that you guys know about it ahead of time.
Also, if there are other areas of the forum that you think could be changed, then by all means - go create a topic about it and raise the issue.
#130
Posted 06 February 2008 - 10:43 AM