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    Posted 01 January 2008 - 10:27 PM

    The old topic that I made sucked, and though I could've sworn we had this somewhere already (and not the one I made previously), I didn't see it. Plus, that topic was made quite a bit before SMG was released.

    So anyway, here you go. Super Mario Galaxy is awesome, and I can't imagine anyone playing and not being at least amused. It may not be the BEST game of the year IMO, but I think it deserves at least 2nd or 3rd.

    Well, I need help beating a boss. I'm in the second galaxy (
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    Anybody know how to defeat him?

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      Posted 02 January 2008 - 12:35 AM

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        Posted 02 January 2008 - 12:41 AM

        Yeah, I just read that a minute ago on Game FAQ's. Thanks though.

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          Posted 02 January 2008 - 09:44 AM

          TOMORROW! TOMORROW! TOMORROW GUYS! TOMORROW'S THE DAY! OH, TOMORROW! TOMORROW GUYS!

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            Posted 02 January 2008 - 09:47 AM

            Sooo...more pointless spam?

            My bro completed it the other day. With the bare minimum stars, because he's weak. I told him i'll give him £5 if he gets all
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            I wont give him the money.

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              Posted 02 January 2008 - 05:51 PM

              I got this game a few days ago, and I have to day that it is one of th best games I have ever played. I have 29 stars so far, I'm obsessed. I like to get every single star, so that I don't have to go back and get all of them after I beat the last boss. This really is a great game, it's a must have for the Wii.

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                Posted 03 January 2008 - 03:47 PM

                I've got 45 stars atm, and I'm on the fourth galaxy. I've gotten all the stars in the first galaxy, all but one in the second, and I still have a few to go in the third. I've also gotten one
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                  Posted 04 January 2008 - 12:55 PM

                  Copied from Game of the Year topic.

                  My only complaint so far is the camera controls are terrible. What seems a lot of times they won't allow you to change the camera for no apparent reason... it's a small complaint, but it's a real albeit small flaw. End copy

                  Actually when you think about it, it's funny. They made the graphics so good (impressive for a console that's "two GameCubes stuck together with duct tape") but made camera control pretty much non-existant so you can't look where you want. :P

                  I have 30 or so stars.

                  (thanks aqua?)

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                    Posted 04 January 2008 - 03:26 PM

                    View PostWind Dude, on Jan 4 2008, 07:55 PM, said:

                    Copied from Game of the Year topic.

                    My only complaint so far is the camera controls are terrible. What seems a lot of times they won't allow you to change the camera for no apparent reason... it's a small complaint, but it's a real albeit small flaw. End copy

                    Actually when you think about it, it's funny. They made the graphics so good (impressive for a console that's "two GameCubes stuck together with duct tape") but made camera control pretty much non-existant so you can't look where you want. :P

                    I have 30 or so stars.


                    Slight mistake you made there, pal.

                    Anyhow, I've got 20 Power Stars. The game is awesome. Beautiful and amazingly fun. I can't remember the last time I actually laughed out loud at how fun the gameplay is. Must have been way back on the N64, but it happened in Galaxy again. So yeah, great game, but I'm not as amazed as GL seemed to be...

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                      Posted 04 January 2008 - 03:29 PM

                      Anyone who can catch up to me is a miracle worker. All 120 stars with Mario and
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                        Posted 04 January 2008 - 05:25 PM

                        The game is very unique and innovative. But it's not going to change the way I look at the world or anything, though it's worth a lot of praise. GL liking it a lot is pretty justified.

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                          Posted 05 January 2008 - 12:55 AM

                          I've got 63 or 64 atm. I skipped over a few in the 3rd and 4th observatories, and one in the 2nd. I also got all of the
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                          , and beat all of the
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                          . I'm trying to get as many as I can before I go to the final galaxy thingy. I'm in the 5th observatory atm.

                          And if you're looking for the
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                          stars, look for galaxies that have blank stars with
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                          in them when you're in any of the observatories.

                          And Nos, when do you get to use him?

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                            Posted 05 January 2008 - 01:40 AM

                            View PostDude of Wind, on Jan 4 2008, 10:55 PM, said:

                            And Nos, when do you get to use him?

                            When you beat the final boss with 120 stars.

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                              Posted 05 January 2008 - 12:14 PM

                              I beat the game yesterday, and this is by far one of the most polished, amazing gaming experiences ever. I know I'm beating a dead horse here, but it felt such immense satisfaction beating the final boss (and the final level was mind-boggling and dizzying at one point).

                              I'll post more detailed impressions of it later, but allow me to just say that Miyamoto is @#$%ing genius once again.

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                                Posted 05 January 2008 - 12:42 PM

                                View PostGolden Legacy, on Jan 5 2008, 07:14 PM, said:

                                I beat the game yesterday, and this is by far one of the most polished, amazing gaming experiences ever. I know I'm beating a dead horse here, but it felt such immense satisfaction beating the final boss (and the final level was mind-boggling and dizzying at one point).

                                I'll post more detailed impressions of it later, but allow me to just say that Miyamoto is @#$%ing genius once again.


                                I know. What will Nintendo do without Miyamoto? I am afraid to even think about it...

                                Anyhow, Galaxy is seriously awesome in every single aspect: graphics, sounds, gameplay... The music is simply brilliant, but the graphics, though truly excellent when viewed from afar, aren't as good. It's got some really ugly bits when viewed up close... And the gameplay is, well, amazing.

                                I'm a bit sad that the platforming gameplay of Mario games simply isn't my cup of tea though. I mean, I love Mario games, but the gameplay in Zelda is more my thing.

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                                  Posted 05 January 2008 - 12:53 PM

                                  There actually seems less platforming in this game and more puzzle solving. The platforming is still there, but not as much as Mario 64.

                                  Oh, and GL, you have to see this:
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                                    Posted 24 January 2008 - 09:37 AM

                                    View PostGolden Legacy, on Jan 5 2008, 12:14 PM, said:

                                    I beat the game yesterday, and this is by far one of the most polished, amazing gaming experiences ever. I know I'm beating a dead horse here, but it felt such immense satisfaction beating the final boss (and the final level was mind-boggling and dizzying at one point).

                                    I'll post more detailed impressions of it later, but allow me to just say that Miyamoto is @#$%ing genius once again.


                                    There is another boss set apart from Bowser?

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                                      Posted 26 January 2008 - 08:43 AM

                                      Beat
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                                      yesterday. Right now, I'm going back and getting all 120 stars. I have 68 stars atm. I also got the
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                                      This game was effing amazing in everything. I loved the music, the gameplay, the enemies. Everything except the camera angle, that was annoying at some points.

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                                        Posted 26 January 2008 - 01:11 PM

                                        Yeah, but not often. Pretty much all adventure games have camera problems to some extent though.

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                                          Posted 26 January 2008 - 01:17 PM

                                          Hahah, my bro has 5 days to get all of the stars or he owes me 10 quid. He has 97 so far, he wont make it.

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                                            Posted 26 January 2008 - 01:19 PM

                                            View PostDude of Wind, on Jan 26 2008, 11:11 AM, said:

                                            Yeah, but not often. Pretty much all adventure games have camera problems to some extent though.

                                            It's a bit worse in SMG. Camera control is next to non-existant and while running around on a planet is cool, you can barely see what's ahead of you. It's a 3D platformer, why the overhead camera???

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                                              Posted 26 January 2008 - 01:44 PM

                                              I got all 120 with Mario I might get em all with Luigi to help me wait for Brawl :D

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                                                Posted 28 January 2008 - 01:01 AM

                                                View PostWind Dude, on Jan 26 2008, 11:19 AM, said:

                                                It's a bit worse in SMG. Camera control is next to non-existant and while running around on a planet is cool, you can barely see what's ahead of you. It's a 3D platformer, why the overhead camera???


                                                Yeah, it made some levels a little harder than they should've been.

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                                                  Posted 18 February 2008 - 01:44 PM

                                                  Now that my brother has a Wii, and SMG. I can play it longer then I used to. Got 30 stars now and I still have trouble seeing what's so good about it.

                                                  A lot of levels are quite the same when you think about it, and I only enjoy the real jump and dodge which requires a certain sense of skill. (Sweet sweet galaxy ie.)

                                                  The wii-mote shaking gets annoying after a while as well...

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                                                    Posted 18 February 2008 - 08:01 PM

                                                    Is it a good game? Definitely. Great game? Sure, why not. Game of the year? Nah.

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                                                      Posted 18 February 2008 - 09:04 PM

                                                      Is it a good game? Of course. Great game? Yep. Game of the year? A worthy contender.

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                                                        Posted 18 February 2008 - 09:07 PM

                                                        It's debatable. In my eyes I see many games that deserved it more. I'm not saying it's not a bad game, but I cant see what everybody sees in it. Sunshine is my favourite mario game by far and I just thought Sunshine was better in every way ( apart from graphics and music) than Galaxy.

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                                                          Posted 18 February 2008 - 09:13 PM

                                                          Then it's not the game that you dislike, it's the content. The outer space/galaxy theme didn't appeal to you as much as Sunshine's setting. Simple.

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                                                            Posted 18 February 2008 - 09:14 PM

                                                            Which is weird, because I prefer Halo to modern day shooters :|

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                                                              Posted 18 February 2008 - 09:20 PM

                                                              Hmm, how about that? Well, I will agree with you on one point, and that is the setting of the game did feel out of place at times. The central hub of Galaxy is a comet observatory. It's a neat, creative idea and it fits in with the game's theme, but too often did I feel so "isolated". One thing I preferred about Sunshine was that the Delfino Isle town/plaza felt bustling with activity, I felt as though it was more lively.

                                                              Galaxy has a setting where, in effect, it's a lonely star observatory floating through space, and it did feel empty and even out of place, especially for Mario.

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                                                                Posted 18 February 2008 - 09:22 PM

                                                                Motion controls seemed a bit tacked on. Flick the remote to spin, point at Star Bits to collect them, and a few other actions like Ray surfing, and ball rolling, and blowing Mario around in a bubble. (and these were only in a few levels...) I did like using the remote to pull Mario between the blue stars.

                                                                Maybe it's not so much a flaw in SMG's design as it is a flaw in the Wii itself.

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                                                                  Posted 18 February 2008 - 09:26 PM

                                                                  Plus Galaxy reused a lot of the same tile sets. In sunshine, yeah they were all set in a tropical island but there was so much variety in the levels. A industrial harbour, a hilltop. In Galaxy there's honeycomb, another honeycomb, toy land, another toy land. You get the same level with a different them smacked on.

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                                                                    Posted 18 February 2008 - 09:26 PM

                                                                    - Flicking the remote isn't revolutionary, but it got the job done. My only complaint about this was that the game had you use Mario's spin attack too often, so perhaps that's where you're coming from.

                                                                    - Pointing at Star Bits to collect them, how can you complain about this? Would you rather Mario had to go out of his way and go through them to collect them? Having the Wii remote point and collect them made it efficient.

                                                                    - Those "few levels" were just that, they were supposed to be nice little "diversions" from the main gameplay. That's all they were, some additional mini-games that you had the option of going through, just to shake things up a bit and try something new. Would you rather that it was all the constant galaxy exploring? I don't see the complaint here.

                                                                    EDIT: Just saw Caael's post. In response:
                                                                    So you are using the setting/graphics as the reason. Fair enough, to each his own I suppose.

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                                                                      Posted 18 February 2008 - 09:30 PM

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                                                                      - Those "few levels" were just that, they were supposed to be nice little "diversions" from the main gameplay. That's all they were, just some additional mini-games that you had the option of going through, just to shake things up a bit and try something new. I don't see the complaint here.

                                                                      And there it is. Could it be that implementing motion sensing as a key part is difficult to big games like SMG? I'd still like to see a Wii game (that's not like Wario Ware) where motion sensing really is a part of the gameplay and not a gimmick, like flicking. Besides shooter games I mean.

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                                                                        Posted 18 February 2008 - 09:36 PM

                                                                        View PostWind Dude, on Feb 18 2008, 11:30 PM, said:

                                                                        And there it is. Could it be that implementing motion sensing as a key part is difficult to big games like SMG? I'd still like to see a Wii game (that's not like Wario Ware) where motion sensing really is a part of the gameplay and not a gimmick, like flicking. Besides shooter games I mean.

                                                                        And there it is then, it's not a problem specific to SMG, it's a problem with Wii titles in general. It's true that motion-sensing hasn't seen its full potential yet, besides shooters and the occasional quirky game (Super Monkey Ball, for example, used it surprisingly well, etc.).

                                                                        But on that note, it's not fair to use that as a criticism against SMG, that undermines what the actual game content is. Let me ask this, had SMG been released for GameCube or a "traditional" console (i.e. no remote, just a regular game controller), would you think higher of it?

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                                                                          Posted 18 February 2008 - 09:38 PM

                                                                          Well its got the best graphics on Wii, but that's not saing much. It's like saying '' I've got Siphalis, the best of the STDs''.

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                                                                            Posted 18 February 2008 - 09:42 PM

                                                                            I'm hoping Brawl will make fun use of the Wiimote, even though I'll be using my GC controler.

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                                                                              Posted 18 February 2008 - 09:42 PM

                                                                              View PostWind Dude, on Feb 18 2008, 07:22 PM, said:

                                                                              Maybe it's not so much a flaw in SMG's design as it is a flaw in the Wii itself.

                                                                              I might have, yeah. It's hard to say since it's not on the GCN where as TP was, though somehow I feel TP used motion sensing better. You can't beat smacking up goblins. :lol:

                                                                              Before you say it, combat on SMG was a bit dull.

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                                                                                Posted 18 February 2008 - 09:44 PM

                                                                                View PostWind Dude, on Feb 18 2008, 11:42 PM, said:

                                                                                I might have, yeah. It's hard to say since it's not on the GCN where as TP was, though somehow I feel TP used motion sensing better. You can't beat smacking up goblins. :lol:

                                                                                Before you say it, combat on SMG was a bit dull.

                                                                                I got that point, I was merely clarifying that it's unfair to use that as a criticism of SMG's game content because of inherent flaws in the console's design. Fair enough?

                                                                                Also, this isn't the Wii Discussion topic folks. Discuss that stuff there and leave this for SMG.

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                                                                                  Posted 18 February 2008 - 11:27 PM

                                                                                  View PostSaturos Striker, on Feb 18 2008, 11:44 AM, said:

                                                                                  A lot of levels are quite the same when you think about it, and I only enjoy the real jump and dodge which requires a certain sense of skill. (Sweet sweet galaxy ie.)


                                                                                  That was a fun galaxy. Took me 3 or so tries to beat.

                                                                                  View PostGolden Legacy, on Feb 18 2008, 07:20 PM, said:

                                                                                  Hmm, how about that? Well, I will agree with you on one point, and that is the setting of the game did feel out of place at times. The central hub of Galaxy is a comet observatory. It's a neat, creative idea and it fits in with the game's theme, but too often did I feel so "isolated". One thing I preferred about Sunshine was that the Delfino Isle town/plaza felt bustling with activity, I felt as though it was more lively.

                                                                                  Galaxy has a setting where, in effect, it's a lonely star observatory floating through space, and it did feel empty and even out of place, especially for Mario.


                                                                                  Yeah, that's the thing I liked about Sunshine. The setting was great.

                                                                                  View PostWind Dude, on Feb 18 2008, 07:30 PM, said:

                                                                                  And there it is. Could it be that implementing motion sensing as a key part is difficult to big games like SMG? I'd still like to see a Wii game (that's not like Wario Ware) where motion sensing really is a part of the gameplay and not a gimmick, like flicking. Besides shooter games I mean.


                                                                                  Yeah, I'd really like to see a sword fighting game where your sword moves according to your movements. Not like in TP where you just flick your wrist to strike an enemy.

                                                                                  But I found most boss battles to be fun and difficullt. The first one was one of the hardest bosses that I faced when I first faced him. Themost of the rest were easier. But he's a lot easier than any of the other one's now.

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                                                                                    Posted 18 February 2008 - 11:35 PM

                                                                                    View PostGolden Legacy, on Feb 19 2008, 03:13 AM, said:

                                                                                    Then it's not the game that you dislike, it's the content. The outer space/galaxy theme didn't appeal to you as much as Sunshine's setting. Simple.

                                                                                    So what you're trying to say is mario galaxy is the best game ever... if you ignore half of the package.

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                                                                                      Posted 18 February 2008 - 11:42 PM

                                                                                      View PostNeon, on Feb 19 2008, 01:35 AM, said:

                                                                                      So what you're trying to say is mario galaxy is the best game ever... if you ignore half of the package.

                                                                                      I was trying to justify Caael's dislike for the game.

                                                                                      And yes, quite frankly, even if SMG had not been a Mario game (as in, if it had completely different characters and even a different theme), and it had the same gameplay, I would still call it one of the most revolutionary and brilliant gaming concepts ever.

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                                                                                        Posted 18 February 2008 - 11:49 PM

                                                                                        actually I think half of what makes it so great is that it is a mario game, I mean, this is how the mario games should have translated into 3d from the start. What we have here is something alot like the old 2D platformers but on 3D shapes.

                                                                                        The concept behind mario 64 and sunshine, though still good, was a bit random and got a bit tiring after playing through like 5 games with the same format. How did a game made of 100 platforming stages turn into 5 3D stages with 100 items scattered through them.

                                                                                        edit: Wall of text crits you for wtf

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                                                                                          Posted 19 February 2008 - 06:54 AM

                                                                                          World of Warcraft much? x.x

                                                                                          Haven't played SMG, but I sure hope it is awesome.

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                                                                                            Posted 19 February 2008 - 08:18 AM

                                                                                            Dont expect too high because I guarantee it wont meet your expectations.

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                                                                                              Posted 19 February 2008 - 09:15 AM

                                                                                              I found it a very fun game. I played for hours on end without getting bored. The bosses were fun, and the galaxies and planet gave the game a unique feel. There was a lot to love about the game.

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                                                                                                Posted 19 February 2008 - 09:20 AM

                                                                                                It's nice and fun... just not game of the year. <_<

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                                                                                                  Posted 19 February 2008 - 02:08 PM

                                                                                                  View Post.eugine, on Feb 19 2008, 08:54 AM, said:

                                                                                                  Haven't played SMG, but I sure hope it is awesome.


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                                                                                                  View PostCaael, on Feb 19 2008, 10:18 AM, said:

                                                                                                  Dont expect too high because I guarantee it wont meet your expectations.

                                                                                                  View Postihatekraden, on Feb 19 2008, 11:15 AM, said:

                                                                                                  I found it a very fun game. I played for hours on end without getting bored. The bosses were fun, and the galaxies and planet gave the game a unique feel. There was a lot to love about the game.

                                                                                                  View PostSaturos Striker, on Feb 19 2008, 11:20 AM, said:

                                                                                                  It's nice and fun... just not game of the year. <_<

                                                                                                  Myself: SMG is one of the best gaming experiences, ever. Don't go in with too low expectations, because they will be shattered, and you will have one jaw-dropping moment after another.

                                                                                                  Conclusion: everyone has their own opinions, nothing left to do but play it yourself.

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                                                                                                    Posted 19 February 2008 - 05:59 PM

                                                                                                    I still haven't figured why I don't like SMG as much as everybody else seems to. Yeah it's good, but I didn't find it phenomenal. Maybe I just don't like 3D games that are focused on platforming. I love 2D platformers though.

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                                                                                                      Posted 20 February 2008 - 01:37 AM

                                                                                                      SMG was awesome the very first time I played it at an EB Games store. I had a lot of fun with the game until I had gotten to about 85 stars. At that point, I kinda just got bored and moved on to FE:RD. I got stuck in that as well, and I haven't really had the focus to get past the last chapter of the second section.

                                                                                                      All in all, SMG will keep you occupied for a good while. But not forever.

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                                                                                                        Posted 20 February 2008 - 01:54 AM

                                                                                                        Im playing it right now, the slow paced music with the space atmosphere makes me kinda sleepy sometimes. I also find myself twisting my head in all directions trying to control Mario. Its fun for sure though.

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                                                                                                          Posted 22 February 2008 - 02:47 AM

                                                                                                          View PostGolden Legacy, on Feb 19 2008, 09:08 PM, said:

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                                                                                                          Myself: SMG is one of the best gaming experiences, ever. Don't go in with too low expectations, because they will be shattered, and you will have one jaw-dropping moment after another.

                                                                                                          Conclusion: everyone has their own opinions, nothing left to do but play it yourself.



                                                                                                          It's a good game don't get me wrong. I like it, enjoy it etc. I just had too high expectations of it since it was GotY and got insanely high ratings in the reviews.

                                                                                                          I expected to be flabbergasted and everything, but it wasn't.

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                                                                                                            Posted 23 February 2008 - 03:38 PM

                                                                                                            started playing it at my brother's earlier, it was insanelty fun to play, but i cant see it depriving me of sleep or anything, it got a little confusing with the camera forcing some leap of faith jumps on you

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                                                                                                              Posted 23 February 2008 - 03:42 PM

                                                                                                              It was amazingly fun, but then things get repetitive after a while. It overall was a great game, I would recommend people buying it.

                                                                                                              Oh yeah, 115 stars! So close!

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                                                                                                                Posted 24 February 2008 - 07:31 PM

                                                                                                                View Postlaharl the slayer, on Feb 23 2008, 01:38 PM, said:

                                                                                                                it got a little confusing with the camera forcing some leap of faith jumps on you

                                                                                                                QFT, I consider this a flaw. Gaming's come along way with fully controllable cameras, you really have to wonder why Nintendo stuck with a mostly static camera for a 3D platformer...

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                                                                                                                  Posted 25 February 2008 - 07:42 AM

                                                                                                                  View PostWind Dude, on Feb 25 2008, 01:31 AM, said:

                                                                                                                  QFT, I consider this a flaw. Gaming's come along way with fully controllable cameras, you really have to wonder why Nintendo stuck with a mostly static camera for a 3D platformer...

                                                                                                                  smg with a fully controllable camera would, imo, lose alot of the impact. Firstly the camera makes the more 2d-esque portions work far better, and secondly it makes the weird 3d stages look that little bit more weird and trippy. I agree it makes some of the 3D stages a little hard to control mario and judge jumps etc.

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                                                                                                                    Posted 25 February 2008 - 03:31 PM

                                                                                                                    I don't see what all the criticism is about the camera. Like Neon said, the game functions perfectly well just with the auto-camera - it's done extremely well, always gives you a clear view of what's coming. And on the rare (note the emphasis) occasions where the camera is less than ideal (not bad, but could be better), those are situations that usually involve the game's structure and progress- such as having Mario jump and being pulled in by the gravity of another planet.

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                                                                                                                      Posted 25 February 2008 - 06:50 PM

                                                                                                                      You must be playing a different game than me...

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                                                                                                                        Posted 25 February 2008 - 06:58 PM

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                                                                                                                        Way back when Mario first made the jump to 3D, developers seemed unanimous in their support of manually controlled camera systems in games, but these days opinions on the subject are starting to change again. Some studios believe that games, like movies, should lead players and not the other way around. Galaxy not only functions, but largely flourishes using an auto camera system. The setup is a success because some of the levels in the game are comprised of smaller objects -- spheres, cylinders, random space structures -- and thus easy to navigate without fear of the view being obstructed, and partly because Mario can walk in any direction, be it left, right, or upside-down, and the camera will always follow. It's easy to downplay the camera system for the game. After all, when so many of the levels are in wide-open space, why would you need a manual camera?

                                                                                                                        But Galaxy's auto-camera is highly intelligent, smartly following from the appropriate angle regardless of Mario's positioning and pulling back when necessary to show scope or to reveal points of levels that need to be seen in order to safely progress. Consider one of our favorite maneuvers, if you will. You're able to run and jump off the ledge of a world, at which point Mario will momentarily launch into space before the planet's gravitational force pulls him back to the ground -- on the other side, of course. The camera follows all of this without so much as a hiccup, cinematically going from right-side-up to upside-down and back up again. Seeing is believing and we highly recommend downloading our video review after you've finished reading our critique.


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                                                                                                                        One area especially worth noting is the game's camera, which takes a largely cinematic perspective, albeit with a limited amount of player control. You can adjust it right or left in certain areas, and go to a first-person view if you just want to look around. There are a few areas where the camera prevents you from seeing things perfectly, but mostly it does an excellent job of framing the action, especially considering all the crazy perspective shifting the game does as you run around these oddball environments.


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                                                                                                                          Posted 25 February 2008 - 07:20 PM

                                                                                                                          well i only play for an hour and on numerous occasions i found myself unable to see where i was jumping to, might just be my impatience and overuse of the long jump though.

                                                                                                                          still the only way you could've quoted worse sites is if you'd quoted Nintendo Power or some other turd

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                                                                                                                            Posted 25 February 2008 - 07:26 PM

                                                                                                                            View Postlaharl the slayer, on Feb 25 2008, 09:20 PM, said:

                                                                                                                            well i only play for an hour and on numerous occasions i found myself unable to see where i was jumping to, might just be my impatience and overuse of the long jump though.

                                                                                                                            I honestly never used the long jump in my playthrough with the game (maybe once or twice).

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                                                                                                                            still the only way you could've quoted worse sites is if you'd quoted Nintendo Power or some other turd

                                                                                                                            Dude, seriously, would you LIGHTEN UP? What the @#$& is your problem, always criticizing everyone? It's not just this topic, everywhere I see you doing this, and you're starting to push it.

                                                                                                                            As for this, what more do you want? Nearly every single review out there praises SMG's camera, nearly every single gamer agrees. And even so, the camera is one part of the game - attacking a game just because of this one issue hardly makes sense. It's honestly difficult to see where you're all coming from - almost as if you guys are just saying all this against the game out of spite, just because you want to sound different or get attention.

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                                                                                                                              Posted 25 February 2008 - 07:33 PM

                                                                                                                              View PostGolden Legacy, on Feb 26 2008, 01:26 AM, said:

                                                                                                                              I honestly never used the long jump in my playthrough with the game (maybe once or twice).
                                                                                                                              Dude, seriously, would you LIGHTEN UP? What the @#$& is your problem, always criticizing everyone? It's not just this topic, everywhere I see you doing this, and you're starting to push it.


                                                                                                                              its just how i am, i dont view things in a positive light, i dont remember pesimism being illegal and you cant deny it generates discussion and isnt that the purpose of a forum? If my views aren't wanted i'll simply go elsewhere

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                                                                                                                                Posted 25 February 2008 - 07:35 PM

                                                                                                                                I'm not saying pessimism/disagreement isn't allowed - it's clear that's the way you are, and that's fine. Just don't dismiss other people's opinions in that negative a tone - at least lighten up on the attack there, it's uncalled for.

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                                                                                                                                  Posted 25 February 2008 - 07:57 PM

                                                                                                                                  i dont recall saying the camera was flawed, my own playing style puts it in unfavourable positions, if i were to be familiar with the game and play like i do it would be much better

                                                                                                                                  i'm not going to go easy on IGN or gamespot, not whilst they are considered the reviewing standard by many when in actual fact its just a bunch of morons pretending they know what they're talking wrting utter triffle.

                                                                                                                                  have some firsthand expereince at excellence, this the Edge review of SMG

                                                                                                                                  http://www.next-gen.biz/index.php?option=c...mp;limitstart=0

                                                                                                                                  anyone with working braincells can see the vast chasm in quality of penmanship. It really does speak volumes that Edge gave it 10/10 as they are infamously strict with their scoring

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                                                                                                                                    Posted 27 February 2008 - 12:28 AM

                                                                                                                                    Goshdarn curvature of the earth. >_<; The camera CAN be a pain sometimes, but for a one button camera, it works pretty well. Just not on the small planets so much...

                                                                                                                                    I love this game though, it's a 3d SMW. Srsly. Hundreds of levels is what Mario always should be. I just wish there were real paths instead of this central hub stuff.

                                                                                                                                    AND WHAR'S MAH YOSHI?

                                                                                                                                    Then again, I'm at 80 stars. Maybe he's later on...plz? :D

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                                                                                                                                        Posted 01 March 2008 - 06:21 PM

                                                                                                                                        View PostGolden Legacy, on Feb 25 2008, 05:26 PM, said:

                                                                                                                                        I honestly never used the long jump in my playthrough with the game (maybe once or twice).


                                                                                                                                        I used it all the time to move around faster, and occasionally in the levels if I the platforms were getting away from me too fast.

                                                                                                                                        But Laharl, Gamespot hates Nintendo. They're MS fanboys. How is using them as a source for a review on a Nintendo game bad?

                                                                                                                                        But in all honesty GL, I had a lot of problems with the camera. It made some of the levels harder then they should've been. I got somewhat used to it after a while, though.

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                                                                                                                                          Posted 02 March 2008 - 12:39 AM

                                                                                                                                          View PostToasty, on Mar 1 2008, 08:21 PM, said:

                                                                                                                                          But Laharl, Gamespot hates Nintendo. They're MS fanboys. How is using them as a source for a review on a Nintendo game bad?

                                                                                                                                          While I agree that Gamespot tends to be biased against Nintendo, you do realize they reviewed the game with a 9.5?

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                                                                                                                                          But in all honesty GL, I had a lot of problems with the camera. It made some of the levels harder then they should've been. I got somewhat used to it after a while, though.

                                                                                                                                          It depends on which levels you mean by "some". If you mean levels that were more of the "classic platforming" such as in Sunshine or 64, then yes, the camera could have been better. But, if you are referring to the levels that were the crazy, gravity, floating from planet to planet levels, then the camera did its job - those levels are meant to be a departure from typical platforming, and that means mastering the use of the gravity.

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                                                                                                                                            Posted 02 March 2008 - 05:05 AM

                                                                                                                                            Well I never said that they didn't give it a bad score, I was just stating that since they usually hate Nintendo, then a good score from them on a Nintendo game must mean something. So since they gave it a 9.5, that means a lot more than if Nintendo Power (lolfanb0yz) gave it a 10.

                                                                                                                                            But I actually had more problems on those new kind of levels. Specifically in the
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                                                                                                                                            But I'll admit, the camera movement was probably a really hard thing to get right, and in this circumstance, I think they did a pretty good job. It could've been done better, but getting perfect camera movement for a game like this isn't easy.

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                                                                                                                                              Posted 02 March 2008 - 06:15 AM

                                                                                                                                              I finished Galaxy ages ago and got all the stars long ago too. Galaxy is one amazing game. I didn't have as much fun with it as all the reviewers obviously had though. There are a couple of reasons for that: it's mostly too easy. Blink said Galaxy is like a 3D SMW, and in a way he is right. However, what made SMW great in my eyes was the difficulty. Dying ten times in one level, getting pissed off, but still having the urge to try again and again was what made SMW. Unfortunately, Galaxy wasn't like that, and I was hoping it would be.

                                                                                                                                              Another reason I didn't enjoy it as much as other people have is that I'm not a fan of platforming games as much as I used to be. I don't like the basic concept of Mario games as much as I like others. That's not the game's fault though, it's just my personal preference.

                                                                                                                                              So yeah, one spectacular game that I wish I had enjoyed more.

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                                                                                                                                                Posted 02 March 2008 - 09:04 AM

                                                                                                                                                It wasn't spam, GL, Blink wanted to know if Yoshi was in the game, which he's not. I just put it in a very spammy way.

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                                                                                                                                                  Posted 03 March 2008 - 12:15 AM

                                                                                                                                                  View PostWater Dude, on Mar 2 2008, 04:15 AM, said:

                                                                                                                                                  I finished Galaxy ages ago and got all the stars long ago too. Galaxy is one amazing game. I didn't have as much fun with it as all the reviewers obviously had though. There are a couple of reasons for that: it's mostly too easy. Blink said Galaxy is like a 3D SMW, and in a way he is right. However, what made SMW great in my eyes was the difficulty. Dying ten times in one level, getting pissed off, but still having the urge to try again and again was what made SMW. Unfortunately, Galaxy wasn't like that, and I was hoping it would be.

                                                                                                                                                  Another reason I didn't enjoy it as much as other people have is that I'm not a fan of platforming games as much as I used to be. I don't like the basic concept of Mario games as much as I like others. That's not the game's fault though, it's just my personal preference.

                                                                                                                                                  So yeah, one spectacular game that I wish I had enjoyed more.


                                                                                                                                                  Well I found quite a few levels hard, but then again, I sucked at SM64, and I was never any good at any of the SMW games. :/

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                                                                                                                                                    I wish it felt like that... but when I had 98 purple coins on the slowest purple coin level of all today, and I DIED... I did not want to try again. I just quit.

                                                                                                                                                    It is like SMW... but the incentive to keep going isn't anywhere near as powerful, sadly. Dunno why. Wish I did. Oh well.

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                                                                                                                                                      I got all 120, and I'm much more satisfied with the ending, even if I'm still almost as confused. Wait, switch that. Less confused, but equally dissatisfied. Ahh, all of the above. xD

                                                                                                                                                      But the game is great start to finish. A few challenging, annoying parts? Sure, it's not perfect, but it's a wonderful game.

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                                                                                                                                                        Posted 11 March 2008 - 06:22 AM

                                                                                                                                                        It wasn't really annoying, it simply wasn't challenging enough.

                                                                                                                                                        But yeah, I remember when I had 99 purple coins in Dusty Dune and then died. Man, was I pissed off...

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                                                                                                                                                          Posted 07 April 2008 - 04:36 PM

                                                                                                                                                          I really couldn't get into this game...I don't really like the 3D Mario games (except for Super Mario 64). But its a really good game...second best video game of all time actually, behind Ocarina of Time.

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                                                                                                                                                            View PostZeypher, on Apr 7 2008, 11:36 PM, said:

                                                                                                                                                            I really couldn't get into this game......But its a really good game...second best video game of all time actually, behind Ocarina of Time.


                                                                                                                                                            do you know how much of a paradox that is?

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                                                                                                                                                              Posted 09 April 2008 - 09:44 AM

                                                                                                                                                              View PostZeypher, on Apr 7 2008, 11:36 PM, said:

                                                                                                                                                              I really couldn't get into this game...I don't really like the 3D Mario games (except for Super Mario 64). But its a really good game...second best video game of all time actually, behind Ocarina of Time.


                                                                                                                                                              LOL NINTNEDO FANBOY! Have you ever touched a console that's not Nintendo? If you had, you would know that there are far, far better games than SMG out there.

                                                                                                                                                              Dont get me started on OoT.

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                                                                                                                                                                Posted 09 April 2008 - 10:16 AM

                                                                                                                                                                OoT is the best game of all time relative to when it was released and what it did at the time. It was a marvel of a game when it was released.

                                                                                                                                                                Caael, if you think Halo 3 is the best game ever I think your opinion is pretty void.

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                                                                                                                                                                  Posted 09 April 2008 - 10:47 AM

                                                                                                                                                                  No I dont think Halo 3 is. I dont have a 'best game' but I still dont think OoT is the best game ever. Yes, it was a masterpiece back then but now it's crap compared to new stuff. It angers me when people say about games ' oh its nothing compared to OoT'. I want to castrate them with a spoon >:(

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                                                                                                                                                                    Posted 09 April 2008 - 12:07 PM

                                                                                                                                                                    View PostWind Dude, on Apr 9 2008, 09:16 AM, said:

                                                                                                                                                                    OoT is the best game of all time relative to when it was released and what it did at the time. It was a marvel of a game when it was released.

                                                                                                                                                                    Caael, if you think Halo 3 is the best game ever I think your opinion is pretty void.

                                                                                                                                                                    Then, by your standards, wouldn't the first mario be the best game of all time?

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                                                                                                                                                                      Posted 09 April 2008 - 03:57 PM

                                                                                                                                                                      Relative to the time and what it did for gaming, yes it's the best game of all time.

                                                                                                                                                                      By now though, other games have built on it with newer technology and ideas. So I guess you could say OoT and whatever the first Mario game was are "outdated masterpieces".

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                                                                                                                                                                        Posted 09 April 2008 - 05:31 PM

                                                                                                                                                                        View PostCaael, on Apr 9 2008, 08:44 AM, said:

                                                                                                                                                                        LOL NINTNEDO FANBOY! Have you ever touched a console that's not Nintendo? If you had, you would know that there are far, far better games than SMG out there.

                                                                                                                                                                        Dont get me started on OoT.


                                                                                                                                                                        There may be better games than SMG, but Halo 3 and GoW, or whatever MS fanboys play, are definately not better. Just as good, but not better.

                                                                                                                                                                        Crysis owns the Halo franchise in the anus.

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                                                                                                                                                                          Posted 09 April 2008 - 05:34 PM

                                                                                                                                                                          I'm not an MS fanboy, I just prefer 360. I still play my DS from time to time, just not very often. And I think you'll find Orange Box is much, much better than SMG. We could go on for days because this is just a clash of opinions.

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                                                                                                                                                                            Posted 09 April 2008 - 05:36 PM

                                                                                                                                                                            cross genre comparisons dont tend to get very far :/

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                                                                                                                                                                              Posted 09 April 2008 - 05:37 PM

                                                                                                                                                                              It's not a comparison, I prefer playing Orange Box to playing SMG. Given a choice, I would pick orange box.

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                                                                                                                                                                                Posted 09 April 2008 - 05:39 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                I want to play Portal. Unfortunately, I lack an activiation code. D:

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                                                                                                                                                                                  Posted 09 April 2008 - 05:42 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                  What laharl said.
                                                                                                                                                                                  Back on topic folks, SMG.

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                                                                                                                                                                                    Posted 10 April 2008 - 05:37 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                    Yes those shortcuts of game names confuse the HELL out of me too! Can't people call Super Mario Galaxy just Galaxy instead of SMG?

                                                                                                                                                                                    Anyways, Galaxy isn't the best game ever made but it's still one of the Wii's best.

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                                                                                                                                                                                      View PostDiddy Kong, on Apr 10 2008, 12:37 PM, said:

                                                                                                                                                                                      Anyways, Galaxy isn't the best game ever made but it's still one of the Wii's best.


                                                                                                                                                                                      not difficult when you can count the amount of essential wii titles on one hand

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                                                                                                                                                                                        Anyways, Galaxy isn't the best game ever made but it's still one of the Wii's best.

                                                                                                                                                                                        Thats like saying " I've got Siphilis, the best of the STD's"

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                                                                                                                                                                                          Posted 10 April 2008 - 09:32 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                          True, but I just don't think Galaxy is that great. Sure, it's good fun but it could always be better. My biggest beef with Galaxy truely was the lack of attacking abilities which Super Mario 64 had, but overall it's a good game, but I just like Brawl, Fire Emblem and Twilight Princess better.

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                                                                                                                                                                                            View PostDiddy Kong, on Apr 10 2008, 08:32 AM, said:

                                                                                                                                                                                            My biggest beef with Galaxy truely was the lack of attacking abilities which Super Mario 64 had, but overall it's a good game

                                                                                                                                                                                            QFT. Where did punching and tackling go??

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                                                                                                                                                                                              Probably traded for more 'regular' Mario attacking moves as jumping on the head and temporary throwing fire balls on specific levels. The spin attack doesn't count, it's nearly not as unlimited as the punching was. I mean c'mon, why remove it if the general controlls and even missions and powerups are soooo obviously directly taken from Mario 64? O.o

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                                                                                                                                                                                                Posted 10 April 2008 - 10:23 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                I've said to myself that some day i'm going to sit down and play Galaxy through to the end. I dont know why I dont enjoy galaxy that much. I just thought sunshine was so much better. Probably because I enjoyed the setting of Sunshine much more. I dont really see the appeal of small planets.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                  Posted 10 April 2008 - 10:45 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                  Sunshine bothered me as well as it didn't had fighting either, but at least it didn't got replaced by something similair as spinning but as something more unique; FLUDD. I liked the atmosphere in Sunshine better as well, cause I still don't get the story of Galaxy really except that Bowser wants to create a new galaxy without reason. :P; But I still think gameplay wise, Galaxy is better than Sunshine and probably even Mario 64.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                    Posted 10 April 2008 - 06:46 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                    View PostCaael, on Apr 9 2008, 09:44 AM, said:

                                                                                                                                                                                                    LOL NINTNEDO FANBOY! Have you ever touched a console that's not Nintendo? If you had, you would know that there are far, far better games than SMG out there.

                                                                                                                                                                                                    Dont get me started on OoT.

                                                                                                                                                                                                    LOL DOUCHE BAG!
                                                                                                                                                                                                    Uh, yeah. I own a Wii, a 360, GCN, DS, GBA, and PS2 right now.
                                                                                                                                                                                                    Oh, and by the way, http://www.gamerankings.com/itemrankings/s....asp?rankings=y
                                                                                                                                                                                                    If you don't know how to read and all that stuff, then you can see OoT at #1 and SMG at #2. Somehow The Orange Box is #3 (Its a collection of games, not a single game...wtf) and #4 is Metroid Prime.
                                                                                                                                                                                                    Your precious Halo isn't in the top 10...its actually 11 lol. Halo 2 is ranked lower than Halo 1, and Halo 3 is ranked lower than Halo 2.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                      Posted 10 April 2008 - 06:52 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                      Doesn't necessarily mean anything.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                        Posted 10 April 2008 - 06:57 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                        If that is a list of best games of all time, and SMG is second, then they are retarded.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                          Posted 10 April 2008 - 06:58 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                          It is true, Zeypher, that those are simply rankings, and that ultimately it's for each gamer to decide the value and worth of the game.

                                                                                                                                                                                                          At the same time, I want to pose a question to the others - let's consider the fact that Galaxy is, in fact, one of the most critically acclaimed games of all time. Do you really think there's no reason for that?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                            Posted 10 April 2008 - 06:59 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                            I played all of an hour of SMG yesterday, and it definetly wasn't as good as alot of people make it out to be. Sure it's great, but definetly not top 5.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                              Posted 10 April 2008 - 07:18 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                              I think GL is the only one that completely understands it...
                                                                                                                                                                                                              I don't think SMG should be up in the #2 spot either, but tons of game ranking sites (IGN, Gamestop, etc.) have ranked it high...so its obviously a great game, but of course some people will love it and other will hate it.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                Posted 10 April 2008 - 07:19 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                It was a real fun game, but it just wasn't one of the greatest games of all time.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Posted 10 April 2008 - 07:21 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                  So am I hearing that people would rate it highly, but not call it one of the best games ever? There is a distinction between the two, certainly.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                  View PostDiddy Kong, on Apr 10 2008, 11:32 AM, said:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                  True, but I just don't think Galaxy is that great. Sure, it's good fun but it could always be better. My biggest beef with Galaxy truely was the lack of attacking abilities which Super Mario 64 had, but overall it's a good game, but I just like Brawl, Fire Emblem and Twilight Princess better.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                  View PostWind Dude, on Apr 10 2008, 11:51 AM, said:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                  QFT. Where did punching and tackling go??

                                                                                                                                                                                                                  I don't see why that's a reason to call Galaxy a mediocre or okay game, you're ignoring every single aspect of Galaxy's gameplay for this?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Probably traded for more 'regular' Mario attacking moves as jumping on the head and temporary throwing fire balls on specific levels. The spin attack doesn't count, it's nearly not as unlimited as the punching was. I mean c'mon, why remove it if the general controlls and even missions and powerups are soooo obviously directly taken from Mario 64? O.o

                                                                                                                                                                                                                  I don't understand this contradiction. You complain that the controls/missions, etc. are all directly from Mario 64, yet you still want the same controls and moves from 64 too?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                  View PostDiddy Kong, on Apr 10 2008, 12:45 PM, said:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                  I liked the atmosphere in Sunshine better as well, cause I still don't get the story of Galaxy really except that Bowser wants to create a new galaxy without reason. :(;

                                                                                                                                                                                                                  It's a Mario game. How much of a story are people expecting?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Posted 10 April 2008 - 07:23 PM

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                    So am I hearing that people would rate it highly, but not call it one of the best games ever?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                    That's what I am saying, yes.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Posted 10 April 2008 - 07:27 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Then allow me to follow-up: what about Galaxy would make you rate it highly, and why?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Posted 10 April 2008 - 07:44 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                        I played galaxy all the way through and thought it was a pretty funny game. I really enjoyed it, but I wouldn't rank it as high as other people have. I enjoyed games like SSBB and Zelda, fire emblem and many other games from the past better. I also enjoyed sunshine more.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Posted 10 April 2008 - 07:53 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                          People will rate a game high to avoid angry fanboys. Remember when GameSpot gave TP an 8.9?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                          I tend to like a game less if I think it's been given more praise than it's deserved. Again, I liked it, but it's low on my "favorite games" list.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Posted 11 April 2008 - 01:51 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                            I feel like I'm in between two kinds of fanboys. Ninty fanboys, and ninty hating fanboys.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                            The game is great. I don't know why it's so awesome yet so boring at the same time, but it is. People love it, yet they hate it at the same time. It gets the #2 spot because it's a well rounded game that's different, despite being the third in a series of platformers. At the same time, it gets so much crap because it gets boring after a while.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Almost anyone who's played the game can't honestly say that it sucked, or that it was poorly made, but a lot of people just either can't get into it, or enjoy it a lot for a while, and then get bored 70 stars later (like me).

                                                                                                                                                                                                                            I haven't touched it since January. I got bored of it. I still think it was a great game worthy of being somewhere in the top 30 games of all time.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Posted 11 April 2008 - 02:14 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                              View PostGolden Legacy, on Apr 11 2008, 03:21 AM, said:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                              I don't see why that's a reason to call Galaxy a mediocre or okay game, you're ignoring every single aspect of Galaxy's gameplay for this?


                                                                                                                                                                                                                              No I don't, I perfectly like Galaxy's gameplay yet those simple things would make it more enjoyable for me. Galaxy is still a great game, but not the Wii's absolute best.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                              View PostGolden Legacy, on Apr 11 2008, 03:21 AM, said:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                              I don't understand this contradiction. You complain that the controls/missions, etc. are all directly from Mario 64, yet you still want the same controls and moves from 64 too?


                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Well, I wasn't really complaining about Mario 64's controlls transfered, cause they work really well. I like the walljump, ground pound and crouching long jump but I just can't help missing the moves, especially if it's poorly replaced by spinning.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Posted 11 April 2008 - 02:54 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                View PostZeypher, on Apr 11 2008, 01:46 AM, said:



                                                                                                                                                                                                                                wow you really are retarded if you believe that chart, i mean come on it the Orange Box AND Resident Evil 4 are each TWICE in the top ten

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                you're clearly one of the many many bleating lambs that will believe any old **** because it favours whatever they fap over.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Develop your own opinion moron

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Posted 11 April 2008 - 02:58 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  They're on twice because they're on differen't systems. Pay attention.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Besides, that site is probably the least biased game ranking site out there, solely because the ratings are given by normal people, and not entirely by people at gamespot or some other place. Though they include reviews from places like that as well, they aren't based off of one source.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Even if it's the same game, it could suck on one console and be awesome on another.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  And Laharl, he does have his own opinion. Just because it's not the same as yours doesn't give you a right to criticise him. You seem to hate what anybody says about any game, so your opinion is best kept to yourself. At least, that's MY opinion.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Fanboys need to wake up and smell the coffee. There's differen't consoles out there, and the games on those consoles are just as awesome as the ones on your console.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Fanboy basher's need to get a life. The only reason to bash a fanboy is because there's nothing else to do, or you're easily pissed off.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Posted 11 April 2008 - 03:41 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    View PostToasty, on Apr 11 2008, 09:58 AM, said:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    They're on twice because they're on differen't systems. Pay attention.


                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    doesnt stop it being THE SAME FUCKING GAME

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    View PostToasty, on Apr 11 2008, 09:58 AM, said:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Even if it's the same game, it could suck on one console and be awesome on another.


                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    slight differences in controls etc. do not justify another appearance on the best games ever list.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    And Laharl, he does have his own opinion. Just because it's not the same as yours doesn't give you a right to criticise him. You seem to hate what anybody says about any game, so your opinion is best kept to yourself. At least, that's MY opinion.


                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    If he had his opinion, he be able to defend his views with actual well structured points, not by linking to some piece of ****. I hate when [people fap over things for little more than fapping's sake and/or make incredibly retarded comments

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    View PostToasty, on Apr 11 2008, 09:58 AM, said:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Fanboys need to wake up and smell the coffee. There's differen't consoles out there, and the games on those consoles are just as awesome as the ones on your console.


                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    true as that is, it'll sadly never happen

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    View PostToasty, on Apr 11 2008, 09:58 AM, said:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Fanboy basher's need to get a life. The only reason to bash a fanboy is because there's nothing else to do, or you're easily pissed off.


                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    or because their reactions are amusing :3

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Interesting debate here. I had fun reading it. I've never denied being a Ninty fanboy, but I agree partially with both sides here; the ones that say Galaxy is amazing and the ones who say it's not that great.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Personally, I didn't enjoy the game all that much. Don't get me wrong, I loved it, I really did, but just not as much as all the reviewers. However, I do completely understand why they rated the game so highly. It's got tons of amazing ideas on every corner, and the whole production value of the game is extremely high. It never started to bore me, and even though there were times when I simply couldn't make myself play it a couple of days on end, I did gladly get all 120 stars, and am even playing a new file in oder to get the 121st star. Admittedly, I'm not playing it so often.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Of course, there were things that bothered me about the game. It was too easy, too much of it relied on simply spinning at the right time, the camera often annoyed me and so on... But this truly is a masterpiece... Just not amongst my very favourite games.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Posted 11 April 2008 - 04:29 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Okay, here's why I personally don't think Galaxy is all that it's been hyped to be, in no particular order:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Combat. You can either jump on things to kill them, or you can do your spin followed by running into them, or shoot star bits at them which has the same effect. Or if you have the Fire Flower power up you can shoot flames, but you get this one so rarely I don't really count it. Jumping can be a pretty inefficient way to defeat enemies when the camera is in a top-down mode on the little planets.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Repetition? I played every galaxy at least once and got 75 stars. I didn't feel like playing it anymore because I felt like I'd seen everything the game had to offer. There's fun little quirks here and there, but there's nothing so revolutionary in this game other than the presentation. Every level is linear; you're on a little planet, solve the puzzle here so you can go to the next planet, solve the puzzle there to go the next planet, and so on. They're like little levels in within the level. It's just repetitive.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Difficulty. With the dumbed down combat and puzzles that rely on spinning all the time, I feel like this game is being aimed at a completely different direction than me. I understand that Nintendo wants to cater to everyone's retarded little brother, but restarting right at the beginning of any task with any slight difficulty is silly. Starting a whole level over in Mario 64 was annoying, but the way it's done in Galaxy makes things a little too easy. Not to mention getting lives is a cinch when you know there locations in the hub level (I forget what it's called).

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        I liked the bits where you had to pull Mario between the blue stars. Those were always good.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        I felt the game was aimed waaay too much at the casual crowd. Not a bad game, but just not for me.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          View PostWind Dude, on Apr 12 2008, 12:29 AM, said:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Okay, here's why I personally don't think Galaxy is all that it's been hyped to be, in no particular order:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Combat. You can either jump on things to kill them, or you can do your spin followed by running into them, or shoot star bits at them which has the same effect. Or if you have the Fire Flower power up you can shoot flames, but you get this one so rarely I don't really count it. Jumping can be a pretty inefficient way to defeat enemies when the camera is in a top-down mode on the little planets.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          I kinda agree with that one, but was it that much different in Mario 64? I mean, there you could punch the enemy, jump on it or slide into it. Here you've got three ways of killing them too.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Repetition? I played every galaxy at least once and got 75 stars. I didn't feel like playing it anymore because I felt like I'd seen everything the game had to offer. There's fun little quirks here and there, but there's nothing so revolutionary in this game other than the presentation. Every level is linear; you're on a little planet, solve the puzzle here so you can go to the next planet, solve the puzzle there to go the next planet, and so on. They're like little levels in within the level. It's just repetitive.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          I find this just stupid. How can people play a game like Metroid Prime, where you do the exact same thing throughout the entire game, and then say that Galaxy is repetitive? The levels were linear on purpose, so as to make them feel more like the 2D Mario titles. The didn't want the free-roaming of 64 and Sunshine because they want to leave that for Zelda. And I agree with them.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Each planet in every galaxy has something fun and very often new to do on it. I seriously very rarely found this game repetitive.


                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Difficulty. With the dumbed down combat and puzzles that rely on spinning all the time, I feel like this game is being aimed at a completely different direction than me. I understand that Nintendo wants to cater to everyone's retarded little brother, but restarting right at the beginning of any task with any slight difficulty is silly. Starting a whole level over in Mario 64 was annoying, but the way it's done in Galaxy makes things a little too easy. Not to mention getting lives is a cinch when you know there locations in the hub level (I forget what it's called).

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Agreed with this.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          I liked the bits where you had to pull Mario between the blue stars. Those were always good.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          I felt the game was aimed waaay too much at the casual crowd. Not a bad game, but just not for me.


                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Possibly the funnest part of the game, and the first time I actually thought "Wow, this game really is something special" was the Rolling Green galaxy. You know, the one near the beginning of the game when you're on that ball with the power star in it and you have to use the Wiimote to navigate it around. I dies a million times, but never got angry. I was actually laughing out loud, something I haven't done in a video game in ages.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Posted 12 April 2008 - 06:48 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            That was one of my favorite parts of the game. Other galaxies I really enjoyed were the surfing galaxies, the second rolling green galaxy, and the bubble blowing galaxy.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Posted 12 April 2008 - 08:19 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              View PostAquamarine, on Apr 12 2008, 06:07 AM, said:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Possibly the funnest part of the game, and the first time I actually thought "Wow, this game really is something special" was the Rolling Green galaxy. You know, the one near the beginning of the game when you're on that ball with the power star in it and you have to use the Wiimote to navigate it around. I dies a million times, but never got angry. I was actually laughing out loud, something I haven't done in a video game in ages.


                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              I freaking loved that level. I died like 5 or 6 times trying to beat it for the first time.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Posted 12 April 2008 - 08:06 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                View PostLaharl, on Apr 11 2008, 02:54 AM, said:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                wow you really are retarded if you believe that chart, i mean come on it the Orange Box AND Resident Evil 4 are each TWICE in the top ten

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                you're clearly one of the many many bleating lambs that will believe any old **** because it favours whatever they fap over.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Develop your own opinion moron

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Thanks for directly flaming me. Guess its my turn nao...
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                fhgsfskjhdfj douche bag go suck your mom's **** fhdjsfhsdkjhfksjs zomg!!!!2223

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Wow, you sure are a badass! You probably got a kick from typing that, huh? Probably felt real good inside.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Oh yeah...and when did I say I thought Galaxy is the best or second best game? You're probably just pissed the games you like suck ****, like you.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Hey, at least you have something in common with games...now go get some friends.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Posted 12 April 2008 - 10:56 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  WOW

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Posted 12 April 2008 - 11:23 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    He's baiting you. You're giving him what he wants.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    It's the internet. The internet is to be taken lightly. Imagine you're holding a feather in your hand. Take the internet lighter than that.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Posted 12 April 2008 - 11:48 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      View PostToasty, on Apr 12 2008, 11:23 PM, said:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      He's baiting you. You're giving him what he wants.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      It's the internet. The internet is to be taken lightly. Imagine you're holding a feather in your hand. Take the internet lighter than that.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Lol...are you talking to me >.>
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Yeah I know its teh internets...its called a joke.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Posted 13 April 2008 - 12:09 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Those words were not jokes. Just.....don't get so worked up next time.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Posted 13 April 2008 - 12:51 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          View PostZeypher, on Apr 13 2008, 03:06 AM, said:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Thanks for directly flaming me. Guess its my turn nao...
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          fhgsfskjhdfj douche bag go suck your mom's **** fhdjsfhsdkjhfksjs zomg!!!!2223

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Wow, you sure are a badass! You probably got a kick from typing that, huh? Probably felt real good inside.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Oh yeah...and when did I say I thought Galaxy is the best or second best game? You're probably just pissed the games you like suck ****, like you.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Hey, at least you have something in common with games...now go get some friends.


                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          yeah because that's relevant >>;

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          congratulations on my proving all my points correct

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          View PostZeypher, on Apr 13 2008, 03:06 AM, said:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Oh yeah...and when did I say I thought Galaxy is the best or second best game


                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          around the time you said this

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          View PostZeypher, on Apr 7 2008, 11:36 PM, said:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          I really couldn't get into this game...I don't really like the 3D Mario games (except for Super Mario 64). But its a really good game...second best video game of all time actually, behind Ocarina of Time.


                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          idiot

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Posted 13 April 2008 - 07:03 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            View PostZeypher, on Apr 11 2008, 01:46 AM, said:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            LOL DOUCHE BAG!
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Uh, yeah. I own a Wii, a 360, GCN, DS, GBA, and PS2 right now.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Oh, and by the way, http://www.gamerankings.com/itemrankings/s....asp?rankings=y
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            If you don't know how to read and all that stuff, then you can see OoT at #1 and SMG at #2. Somehow The Orange Box is #3 (Its a collection of games, not a single game...wtf) and #4 is Metroid Prime.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Your precious Halo isn't in the top 10...its actually 11 lol. Halo 2 is ranked lower than Halo 1, and Halo 3 is ranked lower than Halo 2.


                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            When have I even mentioned Halo?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Just because a bunch of reviews think the same doesn't mean it's official. There is no 'best game' because everybody is going to think different.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Posted 13 April 2008 - 10:37 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              View PostAquamarine, on Apr 12 2008, 04:07 AM, said:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              I find this just stupid. How can people play a game like Metroid Prime, where you do the exact same thing throughout the entire game, and then say that Galaxy is repetitive? The levels were linear on purpose, so as to make them feel more like the 2D Mario titles. The didn't want the free-roaming of 64 and Sunshine because they want to leave that for Zelda. And I agree with them.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Each planet in every galaxy has something fun and very often new to do on it. I seriously very rarely found this game repetitive.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Relying off of memory here, how about puzzles where all you really use is the spin function? Too simple and repetitive for me. Like I said, this game was aimed at a completely opposite direction of me. And not amazingly innovative either. The only thing that I think was truly innovative was how everything was presented; a series of small planets in every galaxy.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Posted 13 April 2008 - 10:59 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                View PostLaharl, on Apr 13 2008, 12:51 AM, said:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                yeah because that's relevant >>;

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                congratulations on my proving all my points correct
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                around the time you said this
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                idiot

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Um...

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Zeypher said:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                I think GL is the only one that completely understands it...
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                I don't think SMG should be up in the #2 spot either, but tons of game ranking sites (IGN, Gamestop, etc.) have ranked it high...so its obviously a great game, but of course some people will love it and other will hate it.


                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Toasty said:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Those words were not jokes. Just.....don't get so worked up next time.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Um, yes they were. If I was actually going to flame that pussy then I wouldn't have used "leet talk" or w/e its called these days.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Caael said:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                When have I even mentioned Halo?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Just because a bunch of reviews think the same doesn't mean it's official. There is no 'best game' because everybody is going to think different.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Because you're a M$ fanboy.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                And yes...I think thats already been said.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Posted 13 April 2008 - 11:02 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  So I own a 360 therefore I am a fanboy. I love this guy's logic.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Posted 13 April 2008 - 04:56 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    :P. Wait a second. I...own...a...original...Xbox. Yes, I'm a fanboy. :blink:. F**K YOU SONY AND YOUR PS3 THAT SITS IN MY BEDROOM!!!! Go Microsoft, and their second system which I didn't buy. Oh ya, I must be a Sega fanboy because I have a Genesis somewhere in my basement.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Posted 13 April 2008 - 05:00 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      You all need to shut up.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Did I mention that I liked the puzzles with the blue stars that you'd pull Mario between?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Posted 13 April 2008 - 05:00 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        You must be a bluestar fanboy! :P. I never would have guessed.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Posted 13 April 2008 - 05:16 PM

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          View PostWind Dude, on Apr 13 2008, 06:00 PM, said:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          You all need to shut up.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Did I mention that I liked the puzzles with the blue stars that you'd pull Mario between?


                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          I liked that one puzzle where you would use the wiimote and the pointer became a thing that blew wind and you would push mario across the level in a bubble.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Posted 13 April 2008 - 05:19 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            That was so annoying. By the time I got good at it the level was over and it would only be used... once more in the game? D:

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Posted 13 April 2008 - 05:41 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              You used it twice?
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              I must have forgot.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Posted 13 April 2008 - 05:52 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Twice at least. You use it in the Trial Galaxies.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Posted 13 April 2008 - 06:00 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Well it has been forever since I beat that game so I must have just forgot.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    The trial galaxies were amazingly fun. That surfing level was just insane, it kept me interested for hours.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Posted 13 April 2008 - 10:46 PM

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Um, yes they were. If I was actually going to flame that pussy then I wouldn't have used "leet talk" or w/e its called these days.


                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      You used noob speak. And I was talking about the rest of your post. It's obvious you got worked up.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Now back on topic, it took me a long time to beat that surfing level. I kept falling off the sides. D: The others were fairly easy though.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Posted 28 April 2008 - 02:49 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        played some more of this at my brothers.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        i have to say it has the worst hit detection of any game i've played on a next gen console. its an absolute joke.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Posted 28 April 2008 - 07:53 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Hit detection meaning...

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Posted 28 April 2008 - 07:57 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            When you attack something and you're 100% sure you hit it but nothing happened.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            It could've been the DAMN CAMERA in his case.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Posted 28 April 2008 - 08:39 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Looking back, I'm still quite disappointed at the response Galaxy's received here. To have a game that had such a unique premise amidst all the other overdone junk we see in gaming nowadays, and it has to be condemned instead of appreciated for what it did.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Posted 29 April 2008 - 06:30 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Completely agree with you, GL. Maybe I didn't enjoy the game as much as some other people, but I definitely think it deserves praise and only praise. Parts of it weren't perfect, but then, which game is? They did actually attempt some new things with this game, and anything new takes time and more tries to be done perfectly.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Posted 29 April 2008 - 04:19 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  I can't think of much really "new" Galaxy did.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Presentation = Fresh, hadn't been done before
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Actual content = Done before, it's a platformer with some quirks

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Posted 29 April 2008 - 04:43 PM

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    I can't think of much really "new" Galaxy did.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Mario tends to be the same time and time again.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Posted 30 April 2008 - 12:29 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      With the exception of 64 imo.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      I enjoyed SMG a lot for the first 70 stars, but like I've said before, the game just got boring after a while. It felt like you were doing the same thing over and over again.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      I definately would've enjoyed it a LOT more if I was younger though. I was far less critical about games when I was 9/10 ish.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Posted 30 April 2008 - 05:27 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        We all were Toasty. I wish I could enjoy games as much as I did 5-10 years ago.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        View PostZeypher, on Apr 30 2008, 12:43 AM, said:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Mario tends to be the same time and time again.


                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Wow, I can't believe a Zelda fan just said that...

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          View PostZeypher, on Apr 29 2008, 11:43 PM, said:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Nintendo tends to recycle the same BS time and time again.


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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Posted 30 April 2008 - 06:54 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            lol Laharl >>
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            It's pretty true though. But if it generates sales, who cares about originality?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Wow, I can't believe a Zelda fan just said that...

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Probably because Mario isn't Zelda...

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              I too fail to see what is so innovative or evolutionary about SMG. From what I know it's just Mario in space; good, clean fun but nothing that hasn't been done before.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              The ability to play using a Wiimote is a testament to the console, not the game.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Posted 30 April 2008 - 07:28 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                View PostSplit Infinity, on Apr 30 2008, 03:15 PM, said:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Probably because Mario isn't Zelda...


                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                What I tried to say is that Zelda is always completely the same. If nothing else, Galaxy at least takes place in space. Zelda changes absolutely nothing from game to game.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Posted 30 April 2008 - 07:32 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  XD I love your simplicity.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Mario is better than Zelda cuz it's SPACEY!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Posted 30 April 2008 - 07:35 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Idiot... Zelda is my favourite franchise ever, but I'm not such a fanboy as to not notice that every game is practically a rehash of the previous title.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Posted 30 April 2008 - 07:40 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      So...you basically agree with everything I just said?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Posted 30 April 2008 - 07:43 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        ... I either completely misunderstood what you said, or you're freakin' numskull.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          You said that the only difference with SMG is that it takes place in space. That's pretty much exactly what I said, word for word.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            View PostEugine, on Apr 30 2008, 01:54 PM, said:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            But if it generates sales, who cares about originality?


                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            gamers????

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            the ones that dont need help getting dressed

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Posted 30 April 2008 - 08:29 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              ZELDA NEEDS A NEW GAME SET IN TERMINA. HYRULE IS BORING AS ****.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              That is all.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Posted 30 April 2008 - 09:22 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                View PostSplit Infinity, on Apr 30 2008, 09:15 AM, said:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                I too fail to see what is so innovative or evolutionary about SMG. From what I know it's just Mario in space; good, clean fun but nothing that hasn't been done before.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Show me one other game that uses the same mechanics of Galaxy.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                The ability to play using a Wiimote is a testament to the console, not the game.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                If you believe the Wiimote is where all the universal praise for Galaxy is, then you clearly haven't played it and clearly don't know enough about it.


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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Show me one other game that uses the same mechanics of Galaxy.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Nobody uses the same mechanics, but it's just another jumping around game. The only thing different to Sunshine or 64 is the space setting ( and lack of Fludd) and some shinier grahpics. That's about it.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Posted 30 April 2008 - 12:30 PM

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    ZELDA NEEDS A NEW GAME SET IN TERMINA. HYRULE IS BORING AS ****.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    That is all.


                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    QUOTED FOR EPIC TRUTH.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Posted 30 April 2008 - 03:01 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      View PostCaael, on Apr 30 2008, 01:06 PM, said:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Nobody uses the same mechanics, but it's just another jumping around game. The only thing different to Sunshine or 64 is the space setting ( and lack of Fludd) and some shinier grahpics. That's about it.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Those "jumping around" mechanics are exactly what make it so great. Stop trying to discredit and undermine them - it's a far major change, more than what people are making it out to be. The gravity and physics have never been challenged or pushed in such creativity.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      And besides, by that logic, every single FPS game is exactly the same.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Posted 30 April 2008 - 04:00 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        View PostGolden Legacy, on May 1 2008, 01:22 AM, said:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Show me one other game that uses the same mechanics of Galaxy.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Show me one other game that uses the mechanics of ET. No? That must make it an original game then.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Posted 30 April 2008 - 04:03 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          I'm not calling SMG a bad game because it's not, but it doesn't do anything new. I tries to make people think it's new an unique while sticking an old formula. When all your games are updated versions of a 20 year old game, you know you're doing something wrong.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Posted 30 April 2008 - 04:06 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            View PostAquamarine, on Apr 30 2008, 06:28 AM, said:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            What I tried to say is that Zelda is always completely the same. If nothing else, Galaxy at least takes place in space. Zelda changes absolutely nothing from game to game.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Eh... the mechanics are the same but each has a sort of a twist. Sailing, repeating the same 3 days, being a wolf, a nifty Ocarina.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            SMG has spinning. >>

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Posted 30 April 2008 - 04:07 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              lol, the never ending argument.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                It's a little one-sided... XP

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                I enjoyed SMG but after 75 stars and doing at least one mission in each galaxy, like Toasty, I felt like I had seen everything and was doing the same thing every time....

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Posted 30 April 2008 - 06:34 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  View PostAquamarine, on Apr 30 2008, 07:28 AM, said:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  What I tried to say is that Zelda is always completely the same. If nothing else, Galaxy at least takes place in space. Zelda changes absolutely nothing from game to game.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Zelda isn't the same time and time again. Each game has it's own story, which ultimately fits into the unknown timeline...The core gameplay mechanics are the same (exception being AoL), but thats true with almost all franchises. Zelda gives you a different experience in each game, with new weapons, side quests, etc, and the stuff Wind Dude said.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  While Mario is fun and all, it really is the same thing over and over again, like a M$ FPS. Not saying that Mario is bad, because it's obviously great, but I'm not too big of a fan of Mario games.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Posted 30 April 2008 - 08:53 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    I can't think of any first person shooters made by Microsoft.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      View PostSplit Infinity, on Apr 30 2008, 08:53 PM, said:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      I can't think of any first person shooters made by Microsoft.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      You know what I mean :joy: The FPS shooters that M$ paid the 3rd party devs to make for them -_-

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Posted 30 April 2008 - 10:05 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        View PostWind Dude, on Apr 30 2008, 06:28 PM, said:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        It's a little one-sided... XP

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        I enjoyed SMG but after 75 stars and doing at least one mission in each galaxy, like Toasty, I felt like I had seen everything and was doing the same thing every time....

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        All right, so you guys happen to think it's the same after a while. That's a fair argument to make, since you are ultimately going after a star in each level - though each galaxy is completely different from the other, and there are other unique challenges that emerge for each level that poses a different sort of challenge (i.e. time run, increased enemy speed, etc.)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        But on that note, that just has to do with long-term replay value - even if after a while you felt it getting similar, don't you think that playing through the game to that point, that getting to that point, was a unique gaming experience?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Posted 30 April 2008 - 11:58 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          View PostGolden Legacy, on Apr 30 2008, 02:01 PM, said:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          And besides, by that logic, every single FPS game is exactly the same.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          They are. And I play ton of them. :\ I didn't like SMG, it looked interesting at first but, the most entertainment I got from it was watching my brother's girlfriend play it.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            View PostGolden Legacy, on Apr 30 2008, 09:05 PM, said:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            All right, so you guys happen to think it's the same after a while. That's a fair argument to make, since you are ultimately going after a star in each level - though each galaxy is completely different from the other, and there are other unique challenges that emerge for each level that poses a different sort of challenge (i.e. time run, increased enemy speed, etc.)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            But on that note, that just has to do with long-term replay value - even if after a while you felt it getting similar, don't you think that playing through the game to that point, that getting to that point, was a unique gaming experience?


                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            GL, the galaxies are similar, but the levels in each galaxy aren't. It's great game, I'm not denying it, but it gets repetitive. And I don't just mean that you're just trying to get a star in each galaxy.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            But like I said earlier, I would've enjoyed it a lot more if I was younger. Games just don;t hold my interest for nearly as long as they used to. Melee kept me occupied for months on end. I spent 8 hours a day for two weeks straight playing it. I played it almost daily after that. Brawl is definately a better game than Melee, but it held my interest for only a month or two tops, and I wasn't spending 8 hours a day on it. My opinion of Melee when I first got it was definately closer to fapping than my opinion of it now.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Posted 01 May 2008 - 05:42 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              View PostZeypher, on May 1 2008, 02:34 AM, said:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Zelda isn't the same time and time again. Each game has it's own story, which ultimately fits into the unknown timeline...The core gameplay mechanics are the same (exception being AoL), but thats true with almost all franchises. Zelda gives you a different experience in each game, with new weapons, side quests, etc, and the stuff Wind Dude said.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              While Mario is fun and all, it really is the same thing over and over again, like a M$ FPS. Not saying that Mario is bad, because it's obviously great, but I'm not too big of a fan of Mario games.


                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              You can't be serious. Okay, look... I'm not a huge Mario fan either. There are other franchises I enjoy much more, Zelda among them. Overall, like I already said, Zelda is my favourite franchise of all. However, I'm not turning a blind eye to the fact that Zelda is very often the same.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Ocarina was original, simply because it was the first 3D Zelda. MM, my second favourite game ever, was to be honest quite different. Similar, but different enough.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Then comes Wind Waker, where the biggest change is the sea and sailing. Everyone says that's a HUGE change, but it really isn't. It's just the same as going through Hyrule Field on Epona, only more complicated and with less fredom.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              And finally, TP. Do I even have to say anything? TP is simply an attempt at improving OoT, which they failed at miserably if you ask me...

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Now, on to Galaxy... I don't understand how everyone found teh game repetitive. I honestly had fun getting all 242 stars, and I still like to play through some of them again.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Posted 19 May 2008 - 08:27 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Okay, played a few more levels again. Take back what I said about repetition. Ultimately, I guess the thing with Galaxy is the difficulty. There just wasn't much challenge. Here's what in my eyes makes a game good:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                1.) The story. If a game has a good story, you can sacrifice some gameplay. Final Fantasy VII: Crisis Core proved this. The gameplay was basically go here and fight things, and the battle system got old after a while. But the story was great. You wanted to keep going to learn what happened to the characters. It was like a good TV show, except without any commercials and you don't have to wait a week in between. Galaxy barely has a story. There was a point in the game where you can learn the backstory of Rosalina which was mildly interesting, and gave me more incentive to complete more missions.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                2.) Innovation. Well, SMG could have been done on the GameCube. To me, the game mostly gives the illusion that it's unique with sub-levels in the form of planets. The concept of planets themselves was cool and unique, but I'm not sure if they were actually the best idea since it's hard to see depth and judge where to jump with the curvature and all. Jumping between planets was fun. But innovation can only go so far when there's no...

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                3.) Challenge! I have never gotten a game over in SMG. Not once, and I have 77 stars. When it's so easy to get from being to the end of the levels, and I've used every power up and seen so many tricks that they like to use, well... it isn't repetition per se, but if it's not even going to challenge me, it feels weak I suppose.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                I can see why other people like it, but it's not for me.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Posted 19 May 2008 - 08:54 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  SMG is a great game, and I can see why some people like it so much, but it's just not AMAZING. You know? I liked it, I had fun with it, and then it sat there for three months. Still sitting there, infact. I'm not dissapointed with the purchase in the slightest though. Worth the money (though I wouldn't have minded buying it used either).

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  To anyone who says the game sucks, then you're either a blatant pessimist *coughlaharlcough*, or you haven't played it enough. I can see people not being amazed with it, but I fail to see how this is entirely the same as either 64 or Sunshine. The only similarities are that they're platformers, they have Mario, and they have similar items/characters. That's it.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  The way gravity works in this game is pretty innovtive in itself. I've had loads of fun just launching myself into orbit around objects (like the saucers in the beginning of dreadnaught). It's a well made game, the graphics are pretty nice, it sounds great in surround sound :P, and it can get very challenging towards the end (for me, at least. I'm not a pro at platformers, but I'm not all that bad either).

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Basically, it's a good game that doesn't deserve any of the trash it gets. However, I find some of the praise a bit overrated.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Posted 19 May 2008 - 08:57 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Where abouts is the challenge? Well, I basically completed most of the beginning universes, except the last two.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Posted 19 May 2008 - 09:23 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      The challenge being the engine room and a few levels on some various planets. For the most part the game was too hard or too easy for me, though.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        3D Mario games have never been difficult.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          I'm special, okay? :P

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          I've never been pro at platformers in general, but I'm not horrible at them.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            View PostZeypher, on May 20 2008, 05:49 AM, said:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            3D Mario games have never been difficult.


                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Just wanted to let you know that Toasty found Wind Waker to be a difficult game. And WW is perhaps the easiest game I've ever played in my life...

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Posted 21 May 2008 - 12:51 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Shhh! They don;t need to know that! <.<;

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              WW was easy for me up until the tower of the gods. This was back when I first got the game. Quite a few years ago. Some of the levels that I can't beat in Galaxy make me go "WTF?" because they're so easy, and I know it, yet I always die just as I'm about to beat it. One level being the one with the haunted rock monster thing wth the daredevil comet in orbit (or whatever it's called. If you get hit once, you die). I don't know why I can't beat it. He as easy the first time, and he's easy the second time, yet I always die before I can land the last hit.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Posted 21 May 2008 - 01:14 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                View PostToasty, on May 20 2008, 11:51 PM, said:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Shhh! They don;t need to know that! <.<;

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                WW was easy for me up until the tower of the gods. This was back when I first got the game. Quite a few years ago. Some of the levels that I can't beat in Galaxy make me go "WTF?" because they're so easy, and I know it, yet I always die just as I'm about to beat it. One level being the one with the haunted rock monster thing wth the daredevil comet in orbit (or whatever it's called. If you get hit once, you die). I don't know why I can't beat it. He as easy the first time, and he's easy the second time, yet I always die before I can land the last hit.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                The daredevil comet against that guy is a *****. It took so friggin long to beat him. Patience is key.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                On an unrelated note I think my computer is about to freeze. Piece of crap.


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