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    Posted 16 January 2008 - 07:20 PM

    Alot more people here play than I thought. I wasn't sure if figures and stuff was the proper place to discuss it though, so I decided to pl;ay it safe and make a new topic.

    I only started playing last month. So far I have only a Space Marine Tactical squad and a Commander. But I'm hoping to go to a hobby store this weekend and get something new.

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      Posted 16 January 2008 - 07:27 PM

      Like I said, I have a HUGE Chaos army, a small Demon Hunter army, and a small raptor thingy army(DS could you find the name for me, since it is escapeing me at the moment.)

      I have 2 Defilers(the best chaos tank/vehicle), Abadon the Dispoler, the Khorne demon Lord, the Serpent thingy demon Lord, the green fat Jaba-The-Hut demon lord, 3 raptor squads, 3 motercycle squads, alot of normal chaos squads, some are demonic(arms and things), 5 Khorne demon squads, a couple of my chaos squads are upgraded with flamethrowers and such, a few squads have comanders(more powerful units, you can have one to each squad for none WH players), and I think that's it. Oh and 2 tanks, and 2 chaos versions of the vehicle that DS has in his avy. I can't remember the names AT ALL.

      I play alot at my local store, win alot, except against the store owner, who has an insane Necron army, and whipes me out almsot every time. I've beaten him twice, and both tiems were REALLLLLY lucky. My Defilers just kind of wrecked him. But every other time he kills me.

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        Posted 16 January 2008 - 07:37 PM

        View PostSkidzorz, on Jan 16 2008, 05:27 PM, said:

        Like I said, I have a HUGE Chaos army, a small Demon Hunter army, and a small raptor thingy army(DS could you find the name for me, since it is escapeing me at the moment.)

        The only thing I can think of would be Tyranids.

        My squad has one dude upgraded with a flammer, and another with a missle launcher. One sargeant, no grenades and purity seals.
        My commander is armed with a combi-melta and a lightning claw. He also has purity seals, artificer armor, and a golden halo.

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          Posted 16 January 2008 - 07:39 PM

          View PostDarkSword, on Jan 16 2008, 08:37 PM, said:

          The only thing I can think of would be Tyranids.

          THANK YOU. You are the best.

          Me loves Abadon. He is so awsome. His sword is preatty powerfull, plus the lightning claw is helpfull too.

          I'd love to play against you, but like, you know, we don't live in the same country.

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            Posted 16 January 2008 - 07:43 PM

            Yeah, too bad.
            And Abbadon has to be THE most powerful commander in the entire game.

            I think that after I get the hang of the game and finish my Space Marines army, I'll go Chaos. They seem to have lots of powerfull units and such a huge variety of them they can deal with lots of situations.

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              Posted 16 January 2008 - 07:48 PM

              View PostDarkSword, on Jan 16 2008, 08:43 PM, said:

              Yeah, too bad.
              And Abbadon has to be THE most powerful commander in the entire game.

              I think that after I get the hang of the game and finish my Space Marines army, I'll go Chaos. They seem to have lots of powerfull units and such a huge variety of them they can deal with lots of situations.

              They are more advanced, yes. Especially when you add demons, which you will becasue they rock, that's when it gets difficult.

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                Posted 16 January 2008 - 07:49 PM

                So, next on my list I'm getting a Dreadnaught failing that, a Rhino for my single squad.

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                  Posted 16 January 2008 - 07:51 PM

                  Thank you. Ya I have 2 chaos Drednaughts and 2 Chaos Rhinos. A little stronger than the SM ones, and look cooler. They have spikes coming out of the top, and like, demonic parts on them.

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                    Posted 16 January 2008 - 07:53 PM

                    What legion/god does your army follow? I'm Ultramarines.

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                      Posted 16 January 2008 - 07:57 PM

                      Khorne, mainly. But yet I have the demon lords from the pink/black dudes, and the green poison dudes. Names please.

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                        Posted 16 January 2008 - 07:58 PM

                        Pink/black would be Emperors Children, who serve Slaanesh. Greenish dudes are Death Guard, who serve Nurgle.

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                          Posted 16 January 2008 - 08:09 PM

                          View PostDarkSword, on Jan 16 2008, 08:58 PM, said:

                          Pink/black would be Emperors Children, who serve Slaanesh. Greenish dudes are Death Guard, who serve Nurgle.

                          Thank you. I haven't touched my Warhammer dudes since like the summer. Ya I got a few Emperor's Children squads. The Chaos Lord looks awsome. It's like a knight with a lance, riding a serpent. And Nurgle, is fat as hell. I hardly use the Death guard, but I always mix my Khorne, Emperor's Children, and the normal, black squads. Looks cooler.

                          I have an ok sized Demon army that I use with 40k and normal warhammer, and I got a small vampire counts and a small egyptian mummy army.

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                            Posted 16 January 2008 - 08:18 PM

                            The one thing that makes me mad is that they don't release that comander dude with the big whip. He's in the Chaos book, they talk about him, but he's not released as a figure. I forget his name. DS, you gotta do some more researching.

                            EDIT-Sorry about the doubel post.

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                              Posted 16 January 2008 - 08:37 PM

                              That's easy, Lucius the Eternal. I didn't know he wasn't a model, I actually saw one of him in the codex.

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                                Posted 16 January 2008 - 08:40 PM

                                Whaaaaaaaaaa????

                                In the codex I have(which is 3-4 years old, so he might be out for all I know) he isn't a model, just a profile. Damn, I need to get him. Can you try and find his stats please. I know I ask alot.

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                                  Posted 16 January 2008 - 08:43 PM

                                  Really, its fine. Most of this stuff I can recall off the top of my head. But stats are to hard to remember, and my Chaos Codex is at my dad's house. Sorry.

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                                    Posted 16 January 2008 - 08:45 PM

                                    Oh alright, nvm then. Thanks.

                                    Well I have a small room in the basement that has a battlefield, and my army all set up, and paint, adn all that junk, adn I haven't stepped foot into the room since the summer, so like, names, pfhhh, ya right.

                                    But ya my codex is liek 3 years old. Should probably get a new one.

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                                      Posted 16 January 2008 - 08:49 PM

                                      Probobly. I'm not sure when my edition was released, but it seems to be more recent than your's.

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                                        Posted 16 January 2008 - 08:51 PM

                                        Yes. Ya mine is old as hell. I still used it at the store though. The owner was nice as hell, always gave me good deals and ****. BUt then he would WHUP me with hsi damn Necrons.

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                                          Posted 16 January 2008 - 08:57 PM

                                          Sounds like you need a rematch.

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                                            Posted 16 January 2008 - 11:49 PM

                                            i've sometthing like 4500 points of Imperial Guard

                                            3 Lehman Russ Battle Tank
                                            1 Lehman Russ Demoshlisher
                                            1 Hellhound
                                            1 Basilisk
                                            2 Sentinel

                                            and ALOT of irrelevent men

                                            will be getting a Baneblade at some point, which packs as much firepower as 3 Lehman Russ

                                            i play 2nd Edition rules as they are the mst enjoyable

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                                              Posted 17 January 2008 - 01:20 AM

                                              I have a question:
                                              In the rule book, a SM has a WS and BS of 4, while a 'Nid has BS and WS of 3. I always thought that when you roll the di, you roll for anything higher than # for a hit. But the rulebook says that the SM is better because it has WS of 4 instead of 3. So does this mean that you actually have to roll for anything lower than # to get a hit?

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                                                Posted 17 January 2008 - 01:41 AM

                                                Tau ftw!

                                                I have 3 tau squads, 1 with Aun'Shi, 2 stealth squads, 3 broadside battlesuits, 6 standard suits, 18 gun drones, and 1 railgun tank ( I haven't played in years so I cant remember the name). Also, I have 2 squads of kroot, 1 krootox and 6 hounds.

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                                                  Posted 17 January 2008 - 02:33 AM

                                                  View PostDarkSword, on Jan 17 2008, 07:20 AM, said:

                                                  I have a question:
                                                  In the rule book, a SM has a WS and BS of 4, while a 'Nid has BS and WS of 3. I always thought that when you roll the di, you roll for anything higher than # for a hit. But the rulebook says that the SM is better because it has WS of 4 instead of 3. So does this mean that you actually have to roll for anything lower than # to get a hit?


                                                  you couldnt make that much more confusing

                                                  WS 4 hits WS 3 on 3+
                                                  WS 3 hits WS 4 on 4+
                                                  BS 4 hits on 3+
                                                  BS 3 hits on 4+

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                                                    Posted 17 January 2008 - 04:17 PM

                                                    View PostDarkSword, on Jan 16 2008, 09:57 PM, said:

                                                    Sounds like you need a rematch.

                                                    I've had a BILLION, he kills me every time, except 2.

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                                                      Posted 17 January 2008 - 08:27 PM

                                                      View Postlaharl the slayer, on Jan 17 2008, 12:33 AM, said:

                                                      you couldnt make that much more confusing

                                                      WS 4 hits WS 3 on 3+
                                                      WS 3 hits WS 4 on 4+
                                                      BS 4 hits on 3+
                                                      BS 3 hits on 4+

                                                      Ah, thanks. That clears alot up for me.

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                                                        Posted 17 January 2008 - 09:10 PM

                                                        i have a squad of five space marines

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                                                          Posted 17 January 2008 - 10:27 PM

                                                          had two games today

                                                          lost 15-12 to Space Marine

                                                          my luck was horrific, i snook up on his Whirlwind and blew it apart with a Lehman Russ on for its turret to land on me and blow up my tank D:

                                                          and beat Eldar 11-10

                                                          amazingly close match, alll 76 of the men in my army died but tanks were practically unharmed, must of killed around 10 of my own men (including my commander!) with the Hellhound's Inferno Cannon :P The most was with his Caledius Assassin, which had Lehman Rus Demoshlisher trying to kill. First Demolisher shell missed, landed on his viper destroying and sending the flaming wreck 22 inhes across the battlefield XD I then had another Demolisher shell and Multimelta shot missthe assassin and land on my own men, murdering them XD

                                                          Hurrah for World War I tactics! XDD

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                                                            Posted 18 January 2008 - 12:57 AM

                                                            Holy crap, 22 inches? Thats insane.
                                                            And I think it's spelled Leman Russ, or something like that.

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                                                              Posted 18 January 2008 - 01:25 AM

                                                              Hahah, my Hammerhead with a railgun can fire 72".

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                                                                Posted 18 January 2008 - 02:32 AM

                                                                View PostDarkSword, on Jan 18 2008, 06:57 AM, said:

                                                                And I think it's spelled Leman Russ, or something like that.


                                                                my mistake, the guard player who has just spent 5 hours with the datafax obviously isnt going to know how it's spelt.

                                                                MultiMelta is the weapon of choice :D

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                                                                  Posted 18 January 2008 - 05:53 PM

                                                                  I know tihs isn't about the figurine game, does anybody know any Dawn Of War cheats, for skirmish matches?

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                                                                    Posted 18 January 2008 - 09:59 PM

                                                                    You can ask about DoW here too. But no, I don't know any.

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                                                                      Posted 20 January 2008 - 11:54 PM

                                                                      I'm going to a hobby store tommorow. Thinking of getting a Dreadnaught. My youngest brother plays as chaos though, so do you have any recomendations for what he should get next, Skidz? Right now he has a lord and two 5 man squads.

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                                                                        Posted 21 January 2008 - 12:21 PM

                                                                        Hmm if he played Chaos and seeing as you have the choice of choosing something similar or different. If you want similar then space marines, DaemonHunters, Witchhunters, Necrons would be your choice, seeing as these armies rely mostly on having basic units that are harder than some armies Elite units, whether due to physical attributes or simply better gear than most; if you think that a change toward a more unit heavy army is needed then I would say, Imperial Guard, the Orks and Tyranids simply for the sheer volume of men and vehicles (or big monsters) they can throw about; finally if you want an army which relies on individual units working independantly but have to synchronise well together to work then Eldar, Dark Eldar and Tau are the ones to look at, they all rely on armies of small exceptionally specialised units doing what they do best in concert with one another. Harlequins where an extreme in this regard, a normal 1,500p army of Harlequins used to number about 20-30 models but still be able to hold its own against the hundreds that Orks and Tyrannids could field. I think they changed that though.

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                                                                        And I think it's spelled Leman Russ, or something like that.


                                                                        They are called Leman Russ (named after the Space Wolf Primarch I think) Battle Tanks/Vindicators/Demolishers/Vanquishers/Conquerors/Exterminators/Annihilators and maybe a few more but that's off the top of my head.

                                                                        Finally I do have an army mostly unpainted and stored away somewhere but it includes a Chaos Lord, Chaos Sorceror, 5 Chaos Terminators, 5 Plague Marines, 12 Khornate Berserkers, 15 Chaos Space Marines (1 plasma gun, 1 Heavy Bolter, 1 Missile Launcher, 1 Autocannon, 1 Flamer, 1 Lascannon, 1 Aspiring Champion with Power Claw and the rest armed with bolters), 3 Nurgling Bases, 3 Chaos Bikers, a Chaos Dreadnaught, Chaos Predator, Chaos Land Raider and 2 Chaos Rhinos. Not played in a long time but I'm thinking of actively trying again but either concentrating on a Tzeentch army of chaos or moving onto witchhunters with all their pyromania.

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                                                                        Hahah, my Hammerhead with a railgun can fire 72".

                                                                        you do realise that an Imperial Guard Basilisk has an Earthshaker cannon which is Range=120"(Direct)/36-240"(Indirect), S=9, AP=3, Ordance Blast 1

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                                                                          Posted 21 January 2008 - 01:07 PM

                                                                          Earthshaker Cannon is fun :(

                                                                          had a pretty close game against Eldar today, was pretty even until mt last turn where i wiped out his Fire Dragons with the Hellhound's Inferno Cannon, wiped out his something (they were black with Krak missile launchers) with a Lehman Russ, wiped out the remnants of his guardians with lasgun fire and utterly totalled his dreadnought with a demolisher cannon (i mean ****ing totalled, i rolled to 6 on three seperate damage tables XD), giving me a nice 8 victory points, leaving him with an assassin and the eldar avatar, which killed 3 guardsmen, handing me a 15-7 victory ^____^

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                                                                            Posted 26 January 2008 - 03:36 AM

                                                                            Finaly played my first game today. My commander and half my Tactical squad allied with my brother's attack squad against my youngest brother's two attack squad and Chaos lord. Little C was annihilated, but my forces fared far better. The games was real close, my squad Sargeant and Commander against two of his marines. Thank GW for ignore armor saves!

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                                                                              Posted 27 January 2008 - 06:28 PM

                                                                              I played against a Necron army yesterday, and phew, it was close. All I had left was a Raptor squad, and a Chaos comander.

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                                                                                Posted 28 January 2008 - 01:43 PM

                                                                                Necrons are broken broken broken

                                                                                thankfully they dont exist in 2nd edition rules :P

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                                                                                  Posted 28 January 2008 - 07:47 PM

                                                                                  -BUMPED-
                                                                                  I thought The Lost and The Damned was an army, but I don't see them on my list...

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                                                                                    Posted 28 January 2008 - 08:06 PM

                                                                                    Aren't they an army for the original Warhammer?

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                                                                                      Posted 28 January 2008 - 08:11 PM

                                                                                      I've seen their figures in the 40K rule book though.

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                                                                                        Posted 28 January 2008 - 08:12 PM

                                                                                        Well I have no idea then.

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                                                                                          Posted 28 January 2008 - 08:14 PM

                                                                                          Whatever.
                                                                                          I just got a dedicated Rhino APC. It's almost finished. I put the side doors down though, and I know that it's going to be a problem when I have to move it through some tight spaces :/

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                                                                                            Posted 28 January 2008 - 08:16 PM

                                                                                            It must look preatty cool though.

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                                                                                              Posted 28 January 2008 - 08:17 PM

                                                                                              Yeah. It's almost as epic as my Captain's Pose.


                                                                                              Grah, that reminds me. I should have brought my models to my mom's house so I could take a propor picture of them :/

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                                                                                                Posted 28 January 2008 - 08:18 PM

                                                                                                What colour(s) have you painted your models?

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                                                                                                  Posted 28 January 2008 - 08:19 PM

                                                                                                  Ultramarines blue, yellow, and some parts black and silver.

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                                                                                                    Posted 28 January 2008 - 08:25 PM

                                                                                                    That's preatty cool. Alot of my squads are painted different colours. I have soem Khorne themed paint jobs, some Death Guard, some Emporer's Children.

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                                                                                                      Posted 28 January 2008 - 08:40 PM

                                                                                                      Thats one of the great thing about dreating a chaos army. They don't have any standard paint schemem, and you can even include other legiones in your army.

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                                                                                                        Posted 30 January 2008 - 10:27 PM

                                                                                                        http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/162/funnehto4.th.jpg

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                                                                                                          Posted 18 February 2008 - 03:21 PM

                                                                                                          Ok, I finally have those pictures I promised. As soon as I find the figurine's topic, I'll put them there too.

                                                                                                          http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/5010/joespics001ci9.th.jpghttp://img129.imageshack.us/img129/2757/joespics010an8.th.jpghttp://img129.imageshack.us/img129/7469/joespics002or9.th.jpg
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                                                                                                          And here's my Captain:
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                                                                                                          The blue guys are mine. The chaos guys (red) were asembled by my youngest brother, and painted by me. I know they arent the best, but my painting has vastly improved since I made these guys. Also, sorry about the picture quality, I took these with my phone.

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                                                                                                            Posted 22 May 2008 - 07:19 PM

                                                                                                            New version coming out in a couple of months. GW also updated their site. http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/home.jsp...er-locale=en_US

                                                                                                            If anyone cares :\


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