[Toasty]

VGChartz

Wow, just look at how much Sony sucks!
jk. :(

...but seriously. Even the PSP, which sucks balls, is doing better than the PS3. It doesn't even look like the PS3 will be beating it in sales any time soon. And that's compared to the DS! The slope of the line means that the DS

Then compare the Wii to the other two consoles.

If sales continue in this direction, The Wii will come in first, the PS3 will come in second, and despite it's head start, the 360 will come in third. Obviously there's still time for things to change, as were only halfway into the race, if that. But as long as Nintendo decides to cater a little more to the 'hardcore' gamers (by releasing some RPG's, Racers, and FPS's), they'll win this time around. The PS3 will really have to take off to win. There's not a whole lot that can be done to boost 360 sales though. Everyone knows what it's capable of, and even if the RROD is completely annhialated, people probably won't know, or won't really care (unless you own a 360 already, which doesn't really help sales).

Obviously, an overpowered system does not a selling machine make. Gameplay prevails over graphics once again.



The charts I linked to are of cumulative sales, so it's how many have been sold worldwide as of the date specified below. And if anyone finds solid information that these charts are inacurate, I will cry, accept defeat, and move on.

[Zeypher]

To see a more accurate number, you have to look over several charts...unless that's the NPD. But yes, that's how it's been going.

[Split Infinity]

The future doesn't look good for the Wii in terms of mainstream gamers. I think the PS3 is going to finish a lot better than you'd expect, maybe even on top.

Wow...that sounded weird.

[Toasty]

Only if you have a dirty mind.

I don't think Nintendo is stupid enough to leave hardcore gamers out of the mix entirely. Besides, they'll still have the casual gaming market locked up tight. The only way the PS3 will come out on top, is if Nintendo screws everything up, and the PS3 gets a bunch of hard-hitters. Both of which aren't likely to happen. The PS3 may get some hard-hitters (we already know it's getting MGS4, FFXIII and GT5), but not a bunch. Nintendo as it is is screwing over the hardcore gamers, but even if they continue to do so (which I pray to god they don't), they could still end up on top. The Wii has a lot more momentum than the PS3.

[Split Infinity]

If you compare them, the Wii has just as many hard-hitters as the PS3 at the moment, and those three games you listed aren't even out yet. The sales will likely up jump alongside the Wii by the time they are.

[Toasty]

Look at the chart, split. There's no way that those three games will be able to boost sales enough to match the Wii. It'd take more than just those.

The Wii has another Zelda in development atm, and Disaster:Day of Crisis, which is supposed to be the first decent FPS for the Wii, is comming out in a little while aswell.

[Split Infinity]

That graph is biased to start with, the PS3 line starts months after the other two. Besides, you understimate the power of the consumer. The initial momentum has very little to do with sales in the long run. There's still a good three or four years until the next generation takes off, and that's plenty of time for the PS3 or even the 360 to gain a huge foothold.

And do you honestly think DDOC is really going to stand out that much? The previous games weren't exactly killer apps, and like you said, it would take more than just one game to keep a console afloat.

[Nick Presta]

No matter which way you look at it, the Xbox is still several million units ahead of the PS3 and its graph is almost parallel to the PS3, meaning it will still be above it for a while.

[Golden Legacy]

It should also be mentioned that PS3 is expected to have a 10+ year cycle, meaning that it will still be a technologically viable and competitive console well after the advent of both Wii and 360.

[Someone Else]

Sure that's what they tell us, but I get the feeling Sony wants our money more than that.

Meaning, make a PS4 so we all have to buy that console to play new games.

[Nick Presta]

How could the PS3 have a 10 year life span? In 2 years the PS3 will look like crap compared to games available for both the PC and Xbox 360. The 360 has about another year or so left, I would imagine.

[Caael]

I read somewhere that the 360 successor is coming out in 2010.

[gsninja]

If the pace continues as is, then yes, the Wii will be first, PS3 second, and 360 third.

The thing is, I doubt the pace will remain the same. The Wii is leaving the hardcore gamers out more than it really should, and that problem alone could knock it out of the top, since there are a good number of hardcore players. As long as the Wii can also cater a bit to the hardcore gamers, it will stay on top.

[Someone Else]

I honestly have no idea why the Wii is as popular as it is.

[Eugine]

It's cheap.

And Nick... o.o?

[Caael]

The wii chart will start to flatten out soon. It's got no more half decent titles and the novelty has worn off now.

[Toasty]

Only if Nintendo ceases to make games for the Wii entirely. <_<

Split Infinity, on Jun 8 2008, 03:04 AM, said:

That graph is biased to start with, the PS3 line starts months after the other two. Besides, you understimate the power of the consumer. The initial momentum has very little to do with sales in the long run. There's still a good three or four years until the next generation takes off, and that's plenty of time for the PS3 or even the 360 to gain a huge foothold.

And do you honestly think DDOC is really going to stand out that much? The previous games weren't exactly killer apps, and like you said, it would take more than just one game to keep a console afloat.

Look at the slopes, split. Obviously the PS3 is at a disadvantage against the PSP and the DS, but it's slope is shallower than the DS, and slightly shallower than the PSP's.

And the Wii needs far fewer titles to stay afloat since it already has a solid lead. I'll agree that D:DoC and one or two others aren't enough to keep the Wii afloat, but there's other titles in the mix aswell. I just can't name them all off the top of my head.

One more thing, Split. These are games, not applications. :( The term "killer apps" is used for programs on computers, for the most part.

[Laharl]

Toasty, on Jun 8 2008, 10:26 AM, said:

I don't think Nintendo is stupid enough to leave hardcore gamers out of the mix entirely.

they're doing a good job of it

its really hard to stay neutral when a company keeps shovelling shyte in your face loosely disguised as innovation

[Golden Legacy]

Nick Presta, on Jun 8 2008, 02:59 PM, said:

How could the PS3 have a 10 year life span? In 2 years the PS3 will look like crap compared to games available for both the PC and Xbox 360. The 360 has about another year or so left, I would imagine.

Sony always designs its products for a 10-year lifespan. In 2 years, titles for 360 will be nothing compared to PS3, as developers are only now really starting to tap into its potential. Its power has been largely unused so far, we've only seen a fraction of it.

Caael, on Jun 8 2008, 03:03 PM, said:

I read somewhere that the 360 successor is coming out in 2010.

I read something similar, that the new Xbox is being targeted for late 2011/2012.

[Zeypher]

For all you guys saying the Wii has no good games coming/leaving the "hardcore" gamers out, wait until July 15th-17th when E3 rolls along, and Nintendo shows all their games for Q3/Q4 2008 and early 2009.

[Caael]

Everybody and their dog has a Wii now, so it's sales are going to slow right down.

[Someone Else]

You'd think more buyers = more interest from developers. I don't think it's time to say the Wii's over just yet.

[Caael]

I'm not saying it's over, i'm just saying not many people are going to want to buy 2 Wii's.

[Laharl]

Zeypher, on Jun 8 2008, 11:22 PM, said:

For all you guys saying the Wii has no good games coming/leaving the "hardcore" gamers out, wait until July 15th-17th when E3 rolls along, and Nintendo shows all their games for Q3/Q4 2008 and early 2009.

i'll do just that, then laugh at you when they announce the wii mote pogo stick attachment

[Zeypher]

Laharl, on Jun 8 2008, 04:39 PM, said:

i'll do just that, then laugh at you when they announce the wii mote pogo stick attachment

And I'll laugh at you when they don't.

[Caael]

Zeypher seems to have PS3 syndrome, otherwise known as Duke Nukem Forever disease, constantly waiting and relying on future realeases.

" It's coming, you'll see. When it comes, i'll show you all!"

[Golden Legacy]

Laharl, on Jun 8 2008, 06:39 PM, said:

i'll do just that, then laugh at you when they announce the wii mote pogo stick attachment

Pogo Stick attachment? Count me in!

In all seriousness, while I do expect Nintendo to reveal their next casual-game project for Wii (I'm putting my bets on "Wii Music" which was demonstrated in 2006), I think what Zeypher means is that Nintendo needs to have a few hardcore aces up its sleeve. Not a matter of will they or will they not, but they simply must if they hope to keep some sense of loyalty for its fanbase.

Smash started off the year strong and it will carry them through Wii's remaining years. However, they need a strong game, they need to raise the hype for the hardcore camp, something big (and preferably, new, seeing as Mario, Metroid, Zelda, Smash, have all been released).


That said, to go back to the charts, the gap between 360 and PS3 is going to shrink considerably for at least one reason - Japan. 360 is effectively dead there, and PS3 has been selling steadily, and will see huge sales when Final Fantasy and Metal Gear come around.

Not to mention PS3's already surpassed 360 in Europe, which means the only market the 360 is distancing itself from PS3 is North America.

[Zeypher]

And what does the 360 have coming, Caael?
Nothing big, to my knowledge, has been confirmed yet.

[Caael]

Ironically, despite the 360 being dead in Japan, it has the most JRPGs.

And to answer Zeyphers question;

Fable 2, All Points Bulletin, Fallout 3, Gears of War 2, Bioshock 2, Mass Effect 2, Assassins Creed 2, Too Human

Was a silly question really, wasnt it.

[Eugine]

I doubt Nintendo is working on 'casual' games honestly. E3 will be either Sony or Nintendo's imo. Why?

Nintendo - No one thought the Wii would have been this successful so 3rd party developers were slow to focus on the Wii. I believe lots of 3rd party developers will announce the projects they are now working on for the Wii.

Sony - More info on home, and new titles being worked on by Sony and their 2nd party titles. The guy who made GoW opened a new studio, and will be making games exclusively for the PS3, I expect some new stuff. I also see Sony focusing more on their online service by intergrating their large catalog of music, games and movies into their network. Something I believe they are working hard on. I expect most games that were exclusive to the 360 to be ported to the 360, and I expect the sequels to be on both systems rather than exclusively 360.

Microsoft should announce they are closing down their gaming division. They have yet to make a darn profit (but yes I know, the 360 is profitable)

[Zeypher]

Wtf is home?

[Caael]

Eugine, you might not like Microsoft but just because other companies sell more doesnt mean they dont make a profit. I mean, are you ****ing stupid or something? Just because another console is selling more than the 360 doesn't mean they're broke and out of business that instant.

I like how Zeypher completely ignored my post.

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And to answer Zeyphers question;Fable 2, All Points Bulletin, Fallout 3, Gears of War 2, Bioshock 2, Mass Effect 2, Assassins Creed 2, Too Human

[Eugine]

Research it Ray.

And Caael, Microsoft gaming division has yet to make a profit o.o
The 360 is profitable yes, but they had to use 1 billion dollars to repair the FPS360, and also the original Xbox was not profitable. Microsoft is still trying to recoup costs.

And I love Micorosft. I hate their gaming division!

[Zeypher]

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I like how Zeypher completely ignored my post.

Why did you just say that? Are you trying to start a flame war or something?
You "got me" there, because M$ reveals their games, while Nintendo keeps them a secret until big events like E3.

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Research it Ray.

How bout you research it, then post what you found on here.

[Caael]

But Eugine, you have no legitimate reason to hate them other than that they're not sony. Just because they're not as profitable as other companies is no reason to hate them.

[Someone Else]

Caael, on Jun 8 2008, 03:53 PM, said:

Ironically, despite the 360 being dead in Japan, it has the most JRPGs.

And to answer Zeyphers question;

Fable 2, All Points Bulletin, Fallout 3, Gears of War 2, Bioshock 2, Mass Effect 2, Assassins Creed 2, Too Human

Was a silly question really, wasnt it.

Crossed out the multi-plat games.

[Zeypher]

Has AC2 even been confirmed?

[Eugine]

Zeypher, on Jun 8 2008, 07:02 PM, said:

How bout you research it, then post what you found on here.

Eugine tells Ray NO. Not going to happen.

[Caael]

You cant have an ending like AC1 and NOT have a sequel.

[gsninja]

This E3 will begin to set the course of the next stages the console war. With Nintendo, if they want the Wii to consistenly be on top, they'll have to reeal at least one or two strong games to gather more hype. The Wii needs to attract the more serious gamers, a different crowd altogether than the casuals.

As for Sony, it all depends on how they show more of the PS3's capabilities. If the PS3 truly hasn't shown much of what it's capable of, then this E3 is a big chance for Sony to make the PS3 more popular.

Microsoft...dunno what to say to them but to try harder...? ._. I'm hoping to get a 360 in a couple weeks or so, for GTAIV, Ninja Gaiden II, and a couple others.

[Nosferatu]

Caael, on Jun 8 2008, 04:10 PM, said:

You cant have an ending like AC1 and NOT have a sequel.

That and they did confirm it was a trilogy.

[Eugine]

And most likely it'll also be on the PS3...

[Zeypher]

Caael, on Jun 8 2008, 05:10 PM, said:

You cant have an ending like AC1 and NOT have a sequel.

But it hasn't been confirmed though...?
That's the same thing as me saying Nintendo will reveal big games at E3...neither has happened yet, and we're both talking about future titles.

[Eugine]

I agree with Zeyp. Lets actually use some meaningful info...

[Toasty]

Golden Legacy, on Jun 8 2008, 02:38 PM, said:

Sony always designs its products for a 10-year lifespan. In 2 years, titles for 360 will be nothing compared to PS3, as developers are only now really starting to tap into its potential. Its power has been largely unused so far, we've only seen a fraction of it.


I read something similar, that the new Xbox is being targeted for late 2011/2012.

GL, please quit saying how amazing the PS3 is. Even with it's over powered CPU, it WILL NOT last for ten years. Not a chance. Ten years from now we'll have 64 core processors. That's more than 8 times as many cores as the Cell has. The successor to the 360 will likely be using intel's new 8 core CPU, or maybe even something better. Who knows. The PS3 doesn't really have a whole lot more to show other than amazing graphics. There's nothing there besides a prettier picture with each new game, and possibly better physics.

the PS3's potential may not have been realised yet, but seriously. No matter how pretty a game looks, it's still crap if it has crappy gameplay.

[Someone Else]

Zeypher, on Jun 8 2008, 04:09 PM, said:

Has AC2 even been confirmed?

It's going to happen. It's the only thing keeping Ubisoft away from EA.

[Golden Legacy]

Eugine, on Jun 8 2008, 06:56 PM, said:

Microsoft should announce they are closing down their gaming division. They have yet to make a darn profit (but yes I know, the 360 is profitable)

Eugine, on Jun 8 2008, 07:02 PM, said:

And Caael, Microsoft gaming division has yet to make a profit o.o
The 360 is profitable yes, but they had to use 1 billion dollars to repair the FPS360, and also the original Xbox was not profitable. Microsoft is still trying to recoup costs.

Just so you're aware, companies historically never make money off of consoles. Software sales are where the majority of the profit is.

Nintendo, recently, has been the exception to that strategy, but even that doesn't change the fact that most of their net profits - still - come from their software (and in their case, first-party).

[Laharl]

i guess it's too much to ask for everyone to just like the consoles for their strengths :/

[Zeypher]

Laharl, on Jun 8 2008, 05:24 PM, said:

i guess it's too much to ask for everyone to just like the consoles for their strengths :/

There's always people who think a certain console's strength is actually something crappy.

[Toasty]

Laharl, on Jun 8 2008, 04:24 PM, said:

i guess it's too much to ask for everyone to just like the consoles for their strengths :/

That's not something I'd expect to hear from you. :(

The same thing could be said for games.

[Laharl]

most of my ranting is to show the fanboy tards to show something's not as perfect as they think it is, suprisingly enough, this involves pointing out weaknesses.

i am quite content to remain neutral, i'll be getting a 360 this week, i'm not suddenly going to become Captain MS fanboy, i'm getting it because it has the games i want to play on it, if you have a problem with this feel free to use your Wii or PS3 as a weight and jump off a bridge

[Toasty]

Wii's are so light copared the the PS3/360, you could practically use them as a flotation device.

[Nosferatu]

Laharl, on Jun 8 2008, 04:43 PM, said:

i am quite content to remain neutral, i'll be getting a 360 this week, i'm not suddenly going to become Captain MS fanboy, i'm getting it because it has the games i want to play on it, if you have a problem with this feel free to use your Wii or PS3 as a weight and jump off a bridge

Trust me when I say only Eugine will do that.

[Someone Else]

And then it would STILL work afterwards.

[Eugine]

Nosferatu, on Jun 8 2008, 07:48 PM, said:

Trust me when I say only Eugine will do that.

I may be a Sony loyalist, but I am not an idiot lolz.

[Someone Else]

What's the difference?

Ba-dum-pish.

[Eugine]

Sony loyalist = Someone who sticks with Sony no matter what cuz we know they dah best.
Idiot = Someone stupid.

What is your school teaching you? -__-

[Someone Else]

Eugine, on Jun 8 2008, 04:53 PM, said:

Sony loyalist = Someone who sticks with Sony no matter what cuz we know they dah best.
Idiot = Someone stupid.

http://www.youtube.c...ah-Q-20rUc&NR=1

So to go back on topic... I think the Wii will remain strong as it's sold so much, developers can't let the opportunity pass.

[Toasty]

Eugine, on Jun 8 2008, 04:53 PM, said:

Sony loyalist = Someone who sticks with Sony no matter what cuz we know they dah best.
Idiot = Someone stupid.

What is your school teaching you? -__-

I still fail to see the difference.

And our science teacher's trying to push global warming propaganda on the class. Luckily, I think I've kept at least one person from falling for it.

ANYWAY. I'm excited to see what Nintendo's going to do with the Wii Ware channel. Hopefully it won't just end up being a place for small developers to make small, short games. Though I suppose the Wii's internal memory would probably keep it that way. Even with SD cards, you'd only have 2GB max to store the game on.

[Zeypher]

Toasty, on Jun 8 2008, 06:39 PM, said:

ANYWAY. I'm excited to see what Nintendo's going to do with the Wii Ware channel. Hopefully it won't just end up being a place for small developers to make small, short games. Though I suppose the Wii's internal memory would probably keep it that way. Even with SD cards, you'd only have 2GB max to store the game on.

http://www.nintendowiifanboy.com/2008/05/0...mory-situation/
External USB HDD, imo.

[Laharl]

i refuse to credit any site that has fanboy in its title.

makes it sound like being a fantard is a good thing :/

[Zeypher]

It's just a site for news >.>
It's one of the Joystiq pillars.

[Split Infinity]

They should make an external flash drive, the Wii is noisy enough as it is.

And no Laharl, I'm not being a wuss. D:

[Toasty]

My Wii is hardly noisy at all. You don't even have one yet anyway, do you?

It'll likely be a flash storage drive of some sort. Either a thumb drive, or An SSD. Depending on how soon prices for SSD's fall (which might not be all that soon tbh).

It won't be a hard drive mainly because hard drives are too fragile. It'd be a pain to have to deal with warranties on litterally hundreds of thosands of broken hard drives.

[Split Infinity]

And yet both the 360 and the PS3 get along fine with hard drives. Hmm.

[Zeypher]

I don't think he's talking about an internal hard drive, because it wouldn't be internal, it would have to be external.

Or they open up the SD cards...but I doubt they will because that would make it easier to pirate games.

[Split Infinity]

How would that make them fit more games onto them?

[Someone Else]

Toasty, on Jun 8 2008, 09:06 PM, said:

My Wii is hardly noisy at all. You don't even have one yet anyway, do you?

Mine is pretty noisy with all the "clicky-clackity-clicky" and other onomatopoeic words that it makes whenever it's loading something. Pretty annoying actually. I thought we were promised that the Wii would be silent.

[Laharl]

All games developers are bull**** liars, its in the job description

[Zeypher]

Split Infinity, on Jun 8 2008, 11:33 PM, said:

How would that make them fit more games onto them?

What?

[Nick Presta]

Laharl, on Jun 9 2008, 03:11 PM, said:

All games developers are bull**** liars, its in the job description

You know the people who design and write the games have nothing to do with the hardware or what the marketing department says, right?

[Laharl]

alright, game companies are bull**** liars

[Nick Presta]

That makes sense -_-

[Split Infinity]

Zeypher, on Jun 10 2008, 08:13 AM, said:

What?

Read your own post.

[Gio]

Split Infinity, on Jun 8 2008, 10:46 PM, said:

They should make an external flash drive, the Wii is noisy enough as it is.

Wind Dude, on Jun 9 2008, 10:45 AM, said:

Mine is pretty noisy with all the "clicky-clackity-clicky" and other onomatopoeic words that it makes whenever it's loading something. Pretty annoying actually. I thought we were promised that the Wii would be silent.

My bro's 360 is much more louder than my Wii.

[Toasty]

Split Infinity, on Jun 8 2008, 09:20 PM, said:

And yet both the 360 and the PS3 get along fine with hard drives. Hmm.

And external hardrive (which is what Nintendo would supply us with since the Wii has no room for an internal one) are MUCH more prone to damage from shock and other things than internal drives encased around a secure, possibly rubber-lined enclosure.

An external Wii HDD would be much to easy to damage for it to be practical. Unless they used SSD which are far more expensive (ranging in the 1000's of dollars in most cases).

Please actually use your brain before trying to make someone else look stupid. <_<

And split, he basically mean allowing the Wii to play VC games straight from the SD cards instead of having to move them to the Wii before being played. At least, that's what I'm assuming. I personally thing they should just release a firmware update allowing people to hook up flashdrives or external hard drives of their own to the Wii. They wouldn't even have to worry about warranties or whatever for additional hardware. Of course, it would make it easier to pirate games, I'd assume. Though I'm sure they could think of some way aruond that problem.

[Nick Presta]

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList....amp;Order=PRICE

I'm sure a cheap SSD could be worked out.

[Toasty]

Holy crap. 32GB for $170? That's a lot cheaper than I remember last time I checked. Though that was a few months ago.

But yeah, it shouldn't be too expensive to make, say, and 8GB SSD add-on, but I was thinking more along the lines of 64GB. Though I'm sure most Wii users wouldn't need that much storage space. But the read and write speeds on those drives look a bit sluggish.

[Zeypher]

I doubt they'll be opening up the SD, and I doubt we'll be getting an SSD...mainly because Nintendo has put up a job application for experienced USB programmers that said:

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CONTRACT - Software/Hardware Tester

Description of Duties

* Creating and executing a test plan for Wii’s USB devices
* Executing test plans with great attention to detail and documenting bugs
* Writing test procedure documents, gathering, and learning required software/hardware
* Reproducing bug reports and helping find work-arounds or resolutions

Summary of Requirements

* Extremely thorough with keen attention to detail and accuracy
* Able to execute scripted tasks lists with regular repetition
* Ability to reliably report and track defects via spreadsheets or other bug tracking software with great detail

It's on Nintendo's job site...I'll try and find a link.

This is also significant- http://www.nintendowiifanboy.com/2007/04/0...-solution-soon/

[Toasty]

Well the only place for a HDD to plug into a Wii is the USB ports (hence the USB thingy), and HDD's need to be formatted with a file system to work (the FAT file system thingy), so we MIGHT see some HDD support down the road. But the FAT file systtem is pretty old, and FAT32 which (though also fairly old itself) is commonly used on flash drives and other flash media, would be much better suited for either speeding up the SD cards or using a HDD.

Hopefully we'll get hard drives for our Wii's in the near future.

[Zeypher]

It will probably be revealed at E3 and released by christmas.

[Toasty]

That's assuming that they're actually makeing a hard drive.

http://arstechnica.com/journals/thumbs.ars...d-sales-numbers

Interesting article. Apparently the DS and the Wii are selling better than the PS3. The DS beat the PS3 by 243,000 units. And yeah, I know that's like comparing apples to oranges, but the Wii is still outselling the PS3, and the fact that the DS is too is just that much more icing on the cake.

I honestly don't think the PS3 will come in first this generation. Maybe second, but not first.

[Golden Legacy]

I think what's most unusual about last month's sales is that Grant Theft Auto IV hardly made an impact in increasing console sales... it continues to sell very well in terms of software, but it didn't push hardware numbers for 360 and PS3.

[Laharl]

partly because it was released in April :/

[Golden Legacy]

Didn't do much for them in April either.

http://blog.wired.co...-npd-despi.html

[Laharl]

touche XD

[Zeypher]

lol.

And Toasty, Satoru Iwata said they're looking into the storage problem...and after all these reports of USB stuff by Nintendo...it only makes sense that they're making a some kind of USB storage solution.

[Caael]

After looking on that link GL provided...What the ****!?!

Pokemon Mystery dungeon had sold over 200k copies?! And why the hell are people still buying Wii play? It's an awful game that entertains you for about 10 minutes before I realised that the money should have been spent on the extra remote, instead of the game as well, because lets face it, the extra £10 for the game was not worth it in any way.

[Laharl]

because its more popular than a cancer vaccine?

hell, one of the pubs near me has a wii sports night

[Toasty]

That pub is smart. Wii sports is kinda fun to play when I have friends to play it with, but it's retty boring otherwise.

Zeypher, on Jun 15 2008, 05:57 PM, said:

lol.

And Toasty, Satoru Iwata said they're looking into the storage problem...and after all these reports of USB stuff by Nintendo...it only makes sense that they're making a some kind of USB storage solution.

Either they're developing a periphreal (usb HDD), or they're developing a firmware update to allow for usb storage devices to work with the Wii (either thumbdrives or external HDD's).

Or they could be doing both.


[EDIT] Holy crap! The Wii sold more units than the PSP, 360, PS3, and PS2 combined!

[Someone Else]

From when?

[Toasty]

Apparently in April

Golden Legacy, on Jun 15 2008, 04:21 PM, said:

http://blog.wired.co...-npd-despi.html