[Nyktos]

Because we were talking about it in TRT.

So, Eventide is (almost) out. Thoughts? Looks pretty lame to me, I'd take Shadowmoor over this any day.

[Drizzy Drake]

I haven't bought a pack/deck/card in years. I think every card in my deck is atleast 6 years old. I keep on trucking and kicking ass with my old skool deck though, so I'm happy.

I really like my Phyrexin Processor. It costs 4 mana. When Phyrexin Processor comes into play, pay any ammount of life.

4, tap:Put a minion token into play. Treat this token as a black creature with power and toughness each equal to the amount of life paid at the time Phyrexin Processor came into play.

[Nyktos]

Phyrexian Processor is an awesome card, no doubt about that. Used to see its fair share of high-level tournament play too. By the way, instead of writing out what a card does you can link to it on this site.

[Drizzy Drake]

Aight.

And yeah, just went through my deck, and not a single card was released past 2002. Am I really missing out on some sick cards/strategies, or could my old deck just as easilly pwn a newer one? I'm not a big Magic nerd as it were.

[Nyktos]

The overall power level of the game has gone down if anything, but the power level of creatures relative to other spells has shot up dramatically. These days a 3/3 for three mana in RED of all colours is considered fair.

Edit: I just realized that card has three abilities that would've been introduced since you left. :P The mana cost means you can pay for it with either red or green mana, or any combination of them, and haste is the new term for "unaffected by summoning sickness". Wither is explained on the card.

[Drizzy Drake]

Wait, so mana is JUST red and green now, no matter what colour of card it is? The other mana colours are basically obsolete now?

[Nyktos]

Huh? No, there are cards of that for every combination of colours. Here's a blue/black one.

[Drizzy Drake]

Oh, I thought you meant for PP, not the one you posted.

[Laharl]

got back into Magic about 2 months ago after a year long break, i play at a competitive Standard level for the most part, currenrtly running

Red Deck Wins
Mono Green Beats
Mono Black Control

went to the eventide events, the set is ****ing sick with W/B being the strongest imo, unmake anyone? i got a strong cardpool and had a good build, thanks to a few catastrophic errors i could only manage 12th on Saturday and 8th on Sunday, and came 5th in the draft.

[Nyktos]

Eventide has been overwhelming to me. Unmake is awesome, but what else is there in WB? Anyway, I mainly play casual at the moment because I don't really like the Standard metagame and can't afford any of the older formats. I play competitive on and off though.

[Ironsight]

I took some cards from a friend of my younger brother's and built a deck. We played a few times, but eventualy stopped. I have this one card called the Entroptic Spectre that has power and toughness equal to the amount of cards in your opponents hand.

[Someone Else]

I'm not an extremely avid player, but I play against my uncle on the occasion. He serves me almost every time.

I have a nice green deck with 2 7/7 worm plus some tokens (or something like that). Red deck too which is just about swarming with goblins.

[Ironsight]

This is what I have:
http://sales.starcitygames.com/cardscans/MAGEXO/entropic_specter.jpg

[Laharl]

Nyktos, on Jul 15 2008, 12:04 AM, said:

Eventide has been overwhelming to me. Unmake is awesome, but what else is there in WB? Anyway, I mainly play casual at the moment because I don't really like the Standard metagame and can't afford any of the older formats. I play competitive on and off though.

limited wise

Restless Apparition
Nightsky Mimic
Nip Gwyllion
Voracious Hatchling
Edge of the Divinity
Beckon Apparition

although Restless Apparition and Unmake look to be the only things guaranteed top see competitive play

[Nyktos]

Oh, yeah for Limited WB owns. I was mainly talking Constructed, because although I like drafting, I rarely get a chance to do it (the drafts near me are run late at night on Thursdays and I have to wake up early for school on Fridays). For Constructed, Eventide looks like a meh set all told.

[Laharl]

i got my ass handed to me at FNM by merfolk decks :C

want to build a monowhite persist but need to wai for th eventide release to be able to use it at FNM

constructed wise i'd say Eventide will mostly strengthen what's already available. Although thankfully Revelark decks will finally whacking die

[Nyktos]

If Faerie Macabre couldn't kill Reveillark, I doubt anything in Eventide will do it.

[Laharl]

people will be running graveyard removal to deal with retrace, it going to have negative impact on the 'lark

of course there's always the time shifted Tormod's Crypt :3

[Nyktos]

As I said, Faerie Macabre already exists and is run, and it deals with both Lark and retrace. It might see more play, but tbh I haven't been impressed with most the the retrace cards.

[Laharl]

Raven's Crime should see some play, maybe flame jab, i'm not familiar with the retrace rares, i can edge 'lark with my RDW but its far from a guranteed win

do you plan on going the release events?

Figure of Destiny is nice

[Nyktos]

I might go to the release, not sure. I epicfail when it comes to sealed, so I'd basically be paying $25 for a Shadowmoor tourney pack, two Eventide boosters, and a foil Figure of Destiny, which isn't all that bad of a deal.

I'm not sure about Raven's Crime seeing play. It's not a bad card, but by the time retrace is really useful both players are probably already in topdeck mode unless one of them is blue control. If your opponent IS blue control, Raven's Crime is great, but I don't see blue control being that big. Flame Jab...maybe. Searing Touch saw play, and this is probably better, but that was in a simpler time.

Call the Skybreaker is the retrace card that's probably most likely to see play, probably in some kind of blue/red CounterBurn deck (which Raven's Crime would actually be great against), but the question is how good is that deck going to be. I'd say not so great.

And yes, Figure of Destiny is awesome. Even if you only activate the first ability it's still pretty good. Makes me want to run a Sligh curve again (there's now enough one-drops to do it with Tattermunge Maniac, Mogg Fanatic, and the Figure). I can't see Sligh doing anything in this meta though.

[Laharl]

i do believe Hallowed Burial is the best weapon against lark in the new set

[Laharl]

i went to the Eventide release yesterday and came third despite a pretty poor card pool. i did get a foil Reflecting Pool that canceled out my entrance fee XD

i'm going to make a W/B aura deck based around Evershrike for FNM on Tuesday, should do okay, its a rogue build as far as i'm aware

LAND

4 Plains
4 Swamp
4 Cave of Koilos
4 Dakmor Salvage
1 Flagstones of Trokair
3 Horizon Canopy

CREATURES

4 Evershrike
4 Nip Gwyllion
3 Mistmeadow Skulk
3 Nightshade Stinger
2 Nomad Mythmaker

SPELLS

4 Edge of the Divinty
4 Unholy Strength
4 Raven's Crime
4 Prison Term
4 Oblivion Ring
2 Daybreak Coronet
2 Retether

SIDEBOARD

4 Unmake
4 Damnation
4 Faerie Macabre
3 Greater Auramancy

any comments? sideboard needs some work

[Nyktos]

Auras are typically bad, and I don't think Evershrike makes up for that. Also, Raven's Crime is probably not maindeckable. I dunno how competitive your FNM is though, anything that isn't tier 1 or designed specifically to beat tier 1 stuff tends to get raped at mine but I know most aren't as competitive as that. You might want to try posting it here or here though, there are people who can give you way better advice over there.

[Laharl]

i'm guessing you havent seen the delicious synergy between Raven's Crime and Dakmor Salvage? its main use is to bin a 'shrike ASAP.

although its pretty competitive at my FNM, most players prefer to run the decks that are fun to use and to play against, so not much 'lark, plenty of Merrow and W/G Green mana ramp decks

although there is supposed to be a diffrence of play style between the US and the UK

EDIT: dropped the mythmakers for a extra skulk and stinger

[Nyktos]

You're right, I didn't notice the Salvage in their (I typically skip over lands when reading decklists). I'm still not sure it's the best way to find the Shrike, but I can't really think of anything better. You should consider Spirit Loop, it lets you run Evershrike without card disadvantage whenever someone kills it. I'd cut the Unholy Strengths for them.


Edit: Griffin Guide is another nice Aura that doesn't make you lose CA, but I'm not sure whether it's worth running over Edge of the Divinity. That +3/+3 is nice and Griffin Guide's flying is wasted on Evershrike. It's definitely worth considering anyway.

Edit again: Just noticed the Daybreak Coronets in there. That card is awful, it's rare that you ever want to have more than one Aura on the same creature, the card disadvantage is too much. Cut them for Griffin Guides.

[Laharl]

i ran an incomplete version of that deck and lost 4-0 :P

i misread Evershrike so Dakmor Salvage became completely useless and just slowed me down, i lost a lot of games because of whackng Griffin's Guide and my only creature in play being mistmeadow skulk :/

Spirit loop is nice though and works great with the 'shrike

i'm now running a u/g control deck that is basically an update of the ravnica/time spiral one i used in the last standard

i'll post that too because i'm bored

LAND

5 Forest
6 Island
4 Yavimaya Coast
2 Treetop Village
1 Calciform Pools
1 Saltcrusted Steppe
1 Urza's Factory

CREATURES

4 Wall of Roots
4 Thallid Shell-Dweller
3 Seedborn Muse
3 Cloudthresher

SPELLS

4 Seach for Tomorrow
4 Ancestral Vision
4 Rune Snag
4 Remove Soul
4 Psionic Blast
3 Dream Fracture
3 Mwonvuli Acid Moss
3 Garruk Wildspeaker
1 Wurmcalling

SIDEBOARD

4 Kitchen Finks
4 Flashfreeze
4 Hail Storm
3 Trickbind

okay it would seem i need to drop 4 cards from somewhere, any ideas?

[Mycarayne]

Tried to get back into this a couple of months ago. Lack of people to play against sort of makes it a bit difficult.

Had a few good matches with a mate (who must of been injecting "Beginner's Luck" directly into his veins when I wasn't looking). Had some fun, but havent played for a while now.

Last I was trying to fix up my Kilnmouth deck as it needs a lot more speed. Should I find the time, I'll whack up the card list and you can't rip it to pieces larhal =p

[Laharl]

i'd never do something like that :3

i went to the regionals last week and finished 9th D:

****ing Goblin King of all cards cost me

[Mycarayne]

9th? how many people attended?

And is it just me or is MtG getting WAY to complicated?

[Laharl]

9th of 20 tier 1 decks.

dunno about more complicated, but there has certainly been more epic bull**** since Wizards introduced the 'mythic rare' rarity, wankers

[Mycarayne]

Eh, probably just complicated since I havent really touched on the new mechanics. Still not used to heaps of multi coloured cards. Hate the buggers actually.

9th out of 20 is pretty good. Beat more than half of em. lol

Mythic Rare? pfffft. Clutching at straws now arn't they? lol

[Laharl]

O:

they make the game the most enjoyable its been in a long time

yup, and inevitably 12 out of 15 mythic rares are complete ****e and the good ones are horrendously over priced

[Mycarayne]

eh, Im sure if I gave them a shot, I'd come to like the use of them. But quite frankly, I'd rather stick to single coloured cards.