The DSi Redesigned DS
#1
Posted 28 September 2008 - 11:53 PM
Rather short article, but with lots of information nevertheless.
http://kotaku.com/50...at-new-ds-rumor
Hmm?
List of features apparently from the info source of that article (Nikkei Net):
Nintendo DS Next model
- (digital) Camera included
- music playback function
- Wireless connection function power up
- larger screen
- to be released this year in Japan
- under 20000 yen
- new types of games by using the camera
- get/exchange data from Wii and SD card (SD card slot included?)
#3
Posted 29 September 2008 - 12:37 AM
#4
Posted 29 September 2008 - 12:40 AM
Just without, y'know, the actual calling abilities.
#5
Posted 29 September 2008 - 01:57 AM
Caael, on Sep 29 2008, 07:33 AM, said:
roughly $200
and so Nintendo delve further into innovaton over quality territory.
i have a camera on my phone thanks and have no intention of playing dozens of Pokemon Snap clones
xplain how you can serious play camera based games on train/bus etc.
#6
Posted 29 September 2008 - 04:06 AM
I can see the camera being used in a game-on-top-screen players-on-bottom-screen situation in online games.
#7
Posted 29 September 2008 - 02:57 PM
Though, I think it's a remarkably foolish strategy of Nintendo to have such drastically different systems, especially if it's just a glorified redesign and not an actual "DS 2".
#8
Posted 29 September 2008 - 04:25 PM
Anyway, an interesting feature is the ability to move the camera ever so slightly at very high speeds to capture the same image from a slightly different angle. This allows the camera to intertwine multiple snapshots for higher resolutions with a smaller sensor (the human eye works very similarly, actually).
Anyway, it'd be nice to see that kind of camera in the new DS. My mom has an LG camera phone with a really nice camera. It's maximum res is 1024x768 I believe. Impressive for a camera that size.
This new DS sounds like it'd be perfect for open source homebrew too.
#9
Posted 30 September 2008 - 04:15 AM
#10
Posted 30 September 2008 - 12:21 PM
#11
Posted 30 September 2008 - 01:17 PM
#12
Posted 30 September 2008 - 01:37 PM
Aquamarine, on Sep 30 2008, 03:15 AM, said:
Did I mention that it's not that expensive to produce?
Just because something's new or a prototype doesn't mean it's going to cost a crapload of money.
#13
Posted 01 October 2008 - 12:21 AM
#16
Posted 02 October 2008 - 06:08 AM
go go Nintendo bullshit powers
#17
Posted 02 October 2008 - 09:38 AM
But, slimmer model and larger screens! I now would rather wait for it to be released in the west than get a DS Lite now.
But seriously, the DS is absolutely crushing the PSP... why is this even necessary?
#18
Posted 02 October 2008 - 09:44 AM
I don't like the DSi name. It just feels lazy to bung the i on the end. Also my original DS is looking very old now.
#19
Posted 02 October 2008 - 10:01 AM
Also, to clarify earlier, there are two cameras apparently? An exterior (3.0 megapixels) and an interior (0.3).
Wholly unnecessary, but I'm curious to see how it'll be used.
#20
Posted 02 October 2008 - 08:36 PM
That one's got a picture of the new model.
anyway, more like trying to capture the essence of the iPhone. Both have an i, both have cameras, both have touch screens, both have wifi, both have app stores, I could go on. :!:
And from what Ars Technica said, it looks like it's two .3 megapixel cameras, not a .3 and a 3. Though it might also be a miscommunication. I've noticed things like that happeneing in their articles from time to time.
But 640x480 (.3 Mp) isn't that bad of a resolution.
[EDIT] Hmm. If it weren't for the new features, I'd rather have a DS Lite. I'm not too fond of the DSi's design. To be fair, it's not really that much different looking, but I still like the DS Lite's look more.
#21
Posted 02 October 2008 - 09:08 PM
#22
Posted 03 October 2008 - 04:18 AM
i cant help but feel the direction nintendo are taking will make the DS less of a handheld
#24
Posted 05 October 2008 - 06:42 PM
Laharl, on Oct 3 2008, 06:18 AM, said:
i cant help but feel the direction nintendo are taking will make the DS less of a handheld
It's not "supposed" to be. The DSi is Nintendo's "third pillar", standing alongside the original/Lite and the Wii.
... hey, I'm not saying it makes sense.
#25
Posted 15 November 2008 - 01:46 AM
Hmm.... not bad. If the DS gets to be worth owning again I'll look into it.
#26
Posted 15 November 2008 - 04:59 AM
Seriously, saving even two milimeters in length for any dimension isn't worth it if you're shaving 15% off of the battery's capacity.
Still, it sounds good. The DS still has a lot of good games too. But I wouldn't get rid of my DS Lite (if I had one) to get this. I'd get it as a second system, is at all.
#27
Posted 16 November 2008 - 02:43 AM
That means you can use 4GB SD cards and larger. The Wii in comparison only supports up to 2GB SD cards.
The DSi just became well worth it's price tag to me.
[EDIT] Oh yeah, supposedly Europe will be getting it spring '09, with North America and Australia getting it sometime before August '09.
#28
Posted 16 November 2008 - 10:14 AM
Not buying one, but it's the principal of the thing.
#29
Posted 16 November 2008 - 11:02 AM
#30
Posted 16 November 2008 - 11:30 AM
Say what you will about it, but from a business point of view, Iwata is a genius.
#31
Posted 16 November 2008 - 05:47 PM
#32
Posted 17 November 2008 - 08:27 PM
#33
Posted 18 November 2008 - 12:26 AM
Plus, you don't have to pay for the Flashcard. But I guess it's too late for you since you already have one.
#34
Posted 18 November 2008 - 10:04 AM
watch, on Nov 17 2008, 09:27 PM, said:
Flawed logic is flawed. The PS3 plays PS1 games. Does that mean it isn't different from the PS1. Are you saying the 460 is the same as the Xbox because it plays Xbox games? You fail miserably fucktwat.
Now get the fuck out of here before you say something stupid again. Dumass.
#38
Posted 18 November 2008 - 06:28 PM
Toasty, on Nov 18 2008, 05:26 PM, said:
Plus, you don't have to pay for the Flashcard. But I guess it's too late for you since you already have one.
My flashcart can support higher then 8gb Sd cards, and I doubt Nintendo will release a console that without modification can emulate their last-gen games.
Neophyte, on Nov 19 2008, 03:04 AM, said:
Now get the fuck out of here before you say something stupid again. Dumass.
Would you like to thank the Academy?
So I take it from that that the DSi has a new set of games? Didn't know that, couldn't be bothered researching it.
How are these new DSi games different from DS? Just the camera?
#39
Posted 18 November 2008 - 10:55 PM
Whether it plays a new set of games or not, it's still different.
#40
Posted 19 November 2008 - 01:30 AM
watch, on Nov 18 2008, 04:28 PM, said:
Would you like to thank the Academy?
So I take it from that that the DSi has a new set of games? Didn't know that, couldn't be bothered researching it.
How are these new DSi games different from DS? Just the camera?
Then the DSi supports just as large of flash cards as the flashcart. SDHC means anything 4GB and up.
Someone will end up release an emulator that can run on the DSi before you even realise it. Nintendo obviously wouldn't creat an emulator for it themselves.
#41
Posted 19 November 2008 - 12:56 PM
watch, on Nov 18 2008, 08:28 PM, said:
How are these new DSi games different from DS? Just the camera?
The DSi and the DS are the exact same in terms of games. A few applications for the camera for the DSi, maybe even in-game uses, but otherwise it's the same hardware with a few advancements, such as SD card support.
It's not worth upgrading to if you already own a DS, but if you don't have one yet it can't hurt to get it.
#42
Posted 19 November 2008 - 05:56 PM
That's probably the biggest benefit it has in my eyes, but a lot of people likely won't bother with that stuff.
#43
Posted 19 November 2008 - 09:13 PM
So I'll get this then if the upcoming games are worth it. A DS that can actually charge right plus some app things seems to justify it.
#44
Posted 19 November 2008 - 10:29 PM
Neophyte, on Nov 19 2008, 03:55 PM, said:
Whether it plays a new set of games or not, it's still different.
No. The Game boy colour and Advance were different systems. Same as the Ps1 and Ps2. The many models of the DS/Gameboy/Ps1/Ps2 are the same console, same games, same features.
Toasty, on Nov 20 2008, 10:56 AM, said:
That's probably the biggest benefit it has in my eyes, but a lot of people likely won't bother with that stuff.
Right because the WiiWare channel and XBLA aren't a total waste of money...Why buy ****ty little games and programs that companies make for money whenpeople can code them for free, no wonder Homebrew is dying...
#45
Posted 19 November 2008 - 10:50 PM
watch, on Nov 19 2008, 08:29 PM, said:
My point is that since the DSi has an SD card slot, you have the potential to make/obtain homebrew programs without the need of mod chip, or any extra hardware.
Lot's of people have an emulator on their PSP to play other non-PSP games. The same will likely hold true for the DSi, since it finally has a way with which to connect to a PC (i.e. the SD card).
#46
Posted 21 November 2008 - 04:45 AM
#47
Posted 21 November 2008 - 08:16 AM
Toasty, on Nov 19 2008, 11:50 PM, said:
Lot's of people have an emulator on their PSP to play other non-PSP games. The same will likely hold true for the DSi, since it finally has a way with which to connect to a PC (i.e. the SD card).
The PSP is probably the easiest system to mod. Maybe the original Xbox, but..
Split Infinity, on Nov 21 2008, 05:45 AM, said:
It's still nice having the GBA slot if you want to play a GBA game. The light is nice when it's dark out.
#48
Posted 21 November 2008 - 02:09 PM
#51
Posted 25 November 2008 - 08:48 PM
A friend of mine is actually considering importing a DSi. Anyone know if it is region locked?
#52
Posted 25 November 2008 - 09:05 PM
And unfortunately yes, all Japanese, North American and European DSi models will be compatible only with their corresponding games. Something to do with regional net services/parental control standards.
Original DS games still play fine, though.
#53
Posted 25 November 2008 - 09:17 PM
http://www.pown.us/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/223.jpg
On that note, bit unfortunate that they're restricted to their regions. I wonder if Nintendo will create games that specifically take advantage of the DSi's features, or create games solely for the DS but have "enhancements" when played on a DSi. Kind of how the Oracle Zelda games were meant from GBC, but if played on GBA had additional items unlocked.
#55
Posted 16 April 2009 - 11:49 PM
- 17% larger screens (0.25in)
- Fingerprint-resistant matte finish
- Dual VGA (0.3Mpx) cameras located on internal hinge and outside shell.
- SD/SDHC card slot (up to 32GB) and 256MB internal memory for storage of pictures, software and music
- GBA slot removed, loses backwards compatibility and compatibility with SLOT-2 accessories
- Improved aperture speakers
- Volume and brightness button controls located on left side of handheld
- Five brightness settings, both dimmer and brighter than the Lite's four
- Power switch reverted to face button, now functions as a soft reset to the main menu
- Game cards can be hotswapped and settings changed without shutting down
- Music can be played back while the unit is closed
- Can manipulate photos taken by the cameras or imported via SD card
- Photos taken with the DSi can be synced to the Wii's Photo Channel
- Games and software can be downloaded from the DSi Store over Wi-Fi for various amounts of Nintendo Points (previously known as Wii Points)
- Some DSiWare is provided free, such as the new DS Browser
- Features an improved 16MB RAM for web browsing, four times as much as previous models
- WPA/WPA2 Wi-Fi encryption is supported (original DS games are still not compatible)
- Upgradable firmware, possibility of new or improved features in the near future
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Seriously considering getting one of these. :D
#57
Posted 17 April 2009 - 05:44 AM
N-Sider said:
- When you close the system to put it to sleep, the now-blue power light pulsates soothingly instead of blinking harsh green like older systems.
- If you tap the pen icon in the DSi's PictoChat a second time, you get a rainbow pen effect. Your delightfully colorful sketches will display on original-model DS's as well.
- If you're playing with your own recorded soundbites in Sound, you can access up to 12 filters by repeatedly tapping the four displayed filters.
- User-accessible system memory in the DSi is approximately 128 MB, and after buying and trying all the first-week DSiWare and taking a handful of photos, mine's about ⅓ full.
- Unlike my DS Lite, and much like my GBA SP, my DSi barely rattles when I shake it.
- As should be expected from a system that makes a return to metal-dome switches, diagonals work perfectly on my DSi.
- The included DSi system software requires touch for many actions, unlike the original DS's system software. You can turn it on and select a game without ever touching the touch screen, though.
Also, 1000 free DSi points to everyone who accesses the Shop before October 5th, which is enough for about two games. Or five... really small games.
#58
Posted 17 April 2009 - 11:11 AM
the worst part is this will have embarressingly high sales most likely
i remember when handheld gaming was about the fucking games
#60
Posted 17 April 2009 - 05:39 PM
Laharl, on Apr 17 2009, 10:11 AM, said:
the worst part is this will have embarressingly high sales most likely
i remember when handheld gaming was about the fucking games
The way I see it, that's precisely how the DS is. There have been LOTS of good games for it, and with the DSi getting its own exclusive cartridges, I have faith it won't disappoint in bringing good quality games still, unlike the Wii.
#61
Posted 17 April 2009 - 06:09 PM
#62
Posted 17 April 2009 - 07:30 PM
#63
Posted 18 April 2009 - 01:12 AM
Frankly I think the dsi's features are about as pointless as the mic in the ds. For a portable device I want to take in public, I hate having to shout at it and look like a crazy hobo. Crazy hobo with technology. It's the same with a camera. Not as publicly humiliating, but no one's going to actually use it as a camera or a music player, because everyone and their dog already owns an ipod and a camera. As for incorporating it into game play, I don't think that will genuinely enhance the playing experience. The touch concept was cool. Now they're scrambling for new gimmicks. Besides we're all just waiting for the next gen of consoles, and this is some lame stepping stone, not the next major breakthrough. And I am not dropping 200$ on a stone.
...that metaphor got a little skewed, and I realize someone has probably already said all that 2 pages back, but it sounds better coming from me :(. Anyways I say all this with great rage and self loathing because I know as soon as they release the next zelda or ff game for the dsi I will promptly buy one so I can continue the tradition of being disappointed by the latest zelda and ff handheld games.
For that matter, could someone please list more than 5 games for the ds that are actually worth buying? I mean you have your classics, mario, pokemon, zelda and ff, but decent new games. I feel frighteningly contained to those major titles, and I am dying for something new.
*cough gs3 would be good too cough*
#64
Posted 18 April 2009 - 01:55 AM
#66
Posted 18 April 2009 - 06:42 AM
Split Infinity, on Apr 18 2009, 01:30 AM, said:
I guess that's a good point. My worry is that when they do end the DS, there won't be many classics.
#67
Posted 18 April 2009 - 11:24 AM
#68
Posted 18 April 2009 - 02:13 PM
#69
Posted 18 April 2009 - 06:01 PM
And holy ****, the DSi sells for almost twice as much here. I love Australia.
#70
Posted 18 April 2009 - 06:45 PM
And holy sh!t games are expensive here. I walked into eb games and realized I could sell one of my ds games and get more for it than I paid. Well not really...also there's exchange rates, but there are still some pretty damn intimidating prices on video games here.
also harry potter sells for more than fire emblem. LAWL
#71
Posted 18 April 2009 - 06:57 PM
#72
Posted 18 April 2009 - 08:21 PM
gsninja, on Apr 18 2009, 01:24 PM, said:
Jump was awesome, but the other 3 games you named were remakes.
Split Infinity, on Apr 18 2009, 08:57 PM, said:
I read somewhere about games being 100+. Tis true?
#73
Posted 18 April 2009 - 10:25 PM
#74
Posted 18 April 2009 - 11:11 PM
#75
Posted 18 April 2009 - 11:49 PM
#76
Posted 19 April 2009 - 01:34 AM
Drizzy Drake, on Apr 19 2009, 12:21 PM, said:
The best PS3 games cost $99.95 right after they come out...
Usually it's something in the range of 50-70 for handhelds, 70-90 for consoles. Though if you're smart and shop around, you can find preowned copies for less than half that.
#77
Posted 19 April 2009 - 07:44 AM
kate, on Apr 19 2009, 12:25 AM, said:
Damn son. The most expensive PS3 game(not collector`s editions durka durka) is 59.99 here.
#78
Posted 19 April 2009 - 07:43 PM
Even with America's failing economy, the USD is still worth twice as much as the AUS$
#81
Posted 21 April 2009 - 07:01 AM
#83
Posted 22 April 2009 - 07:39 AM
#87
Posted 04 May 2009 - 12:45 PM
It's also ridiculously expensive. It's more expensive than the original DS was on release day, and costs less to make. I don't think it's R&D pushing up the price there, it's greed and nintendo riding on the wave of casual shovelware and fandom.
What happened? :(
#88
Posted 05 May 2009 - 05:08 AM
The Art Style series seems promising. AQUIA and DECODE are already up for download, with four more to come; I'm especially looking forward to HACOLIFE.
http://cdn1.gamepro.com/blogfaction/images/090405-aquia-2.jpg
#89
Posted 05 May 2009 - 10:21 AM
#90
Posted 18 May 2009 - 01:40 AM
#92
Posted 18 May 2009 - 02:13 AM
As far as I know, they should be making games for the regular DS still? Maybe I'm wrong.
#93
Posted 18 May 2009 - 02:27 AM
#94
Posted 18 May 2009 - 07:06 AM
#95
Posted 03 October 2009 - 02:36 AM
Packaging revealed for DSi exclusive games
"That different looking packaging for DSi-only games? Yeah, looks pretty much the same as usual DS packaging.
The first game (in Japan) that will only work on Nintendo DSi units is Monster Finder; we already knew that, and we already knew that the cases and game cards would look different to normal DS games. Just how different has been now revealed, and it’s not a lot different really. Take a look.
http://www.vooks.net/images/midsibox.jpg
As you can see, it’s pretty much a straight DS box design with a non-curved logo on the left. And that big orange bar basically tells you that if you stick this cartridge in a DS Lite, your room will implode. Our translation may be off on that one.
The first DSi game is due out here later this year."
http://www.vooks.net/story-18492-Packaging...sive-games.html
#97
Posted 03 October 2009 - 05:15 AM