[Someone Else]

http://gdc.gamespot.com/video/6206736/

I was not a big fan of Phantom Hourglass. This more or less looks about the same as that. It's using The Wind Waker's art style again but the Great Sea and boat appears absent, and instead we're seeing a large green landscape with trees and instead of a boat we have a train. Hmm...

Anybody else think that instead of Spirit Tracks it should've been named Soul Train?

"All aboard the Soul Train, baby!"

[Nosferatu]

I think Nintendo is just getting ****ing lazy.

[Golden Legacy]

Great, another "Legend of Zelda: [noun] [noun]" title which looks exactly the same as others.

[Toasty]

In other news, you can finally play downloaded content straight from an SD card, and the Wii now supports SDHC. That means up to 64GB of storage space for those who can afford it.

[Nosferatu]

Yeah, but what self-respecting gamer gives two ****s about the Wii anymore?

[Caael]

Yay...a train.

RIP Zelda, you...wont be missed very much actually considering this and PH.

[Aquamarine]

I am so ****ing sick of Zelda. I don't understand how people can still look forward to every new title in the franchise... I doubt I'll ever buy a Zelda again, even when the inevitable new Wii game gets released.

And to think franchises like Metroid and Fire Emblem will never again have the honour of getting another game...

[Ironsight]

SOOOOUUUUULLLLLL Train

All aboard, the crook gravy train
With the cannons and the swords (cannons and the swords?)
Yea, we on the pigeon hit show them what they dealing with
Couple chess moves and the Skin City blues quick

Bronx vision, motor demolition
Saturated savvy pins and every car collisions
New explosions wave at you with the frozen
Magazine melting on a mama pack the Jones in
Nude on the jukebox, cut her in the tube socks
While I marinate mars on the scotch rocks

You're my man
You better clap your hands to this hurricane fury
Bloodhound gangs pull it
Breath on them, they don't want to hustle with weak
Days in the oven, hot, make my mamas hot
Mix them with the goldie long green
Macking baby, pimping never
Crawl through the jungle with the blood on the feather
We cocking, soul rocking
Assassins in the '69 club Brooklyn

Palmetto, lemon lime limo
Henny on your lino
Plenty broads are bimbos
Crash the symbols, nine dot initials
Missiles never graze you just taze you and be down with you
Keep the moccacino, saffire silver shadow
Sexy sizzles leaping riddle wake up when it travels

People all over the world (Hop on the soul train line)
Hop on it (Clap) Clap your hands
Just clap your hands and clap your hands and get down

(Love) Love (Peace) Peace (Soul) Soul (Soul) Soul
People all over the world....clap your hands and get down
SOOOOUUUUULLLLLL Train

After hours, china clam chowder
Sniffing baby powder in my prowler white
I'm throwing flowers, mixing them with sour
Whiskey teriyaki getting sticky tonight

Yea we gorilla pimp
Drag them on the floor
But we still don't monkey around with the get down
Ya'll got to understand we talking about Winchesters
Marks say with the ridged round
We shafting broads from Africa
Kumbaya my Lo'

We catalog worldwide
Butter dying die
Wild cat classic
??? rapper dramatic
Skiing at the lodges
Eight car garages
Ice-a-lated rooms
Tripping off Cali shrooms
Luxury meals but I, keep it casual
Awake the waterfall but that walk
Ma I ain't mad at you
Dine with the shark for some local cuisine
Preen the parcher in my white wolf mink hanging so mean

Pull up a seat bumping we going to ride
Snatch up the wheels I kiss the clean side
Before I kiss you whip the king's bride
Mama, I don't want to hurt her but daddy it's like
It just went off, want to hit the dance floor
Get your ticket now all aboard

[Someone Else]

http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z84/WindDude/1233192461921.gif

[I'm Always BROKE]

Totally gay.

Seriously.

Not that Phantom Hourglas was bad perse, but a ****ing TRAIN!? C'mon... Is this company ever gonna make good games again?

[Nosferatu]

Aquamarine, on Mar 27 2009, 10:30 AM, said:

And to think franchises like Metroid and Fire Emblem will never again have the honour of getting another game...

Metroid.

All I want is ANOTHER ****ING METROID.

[Legolastom]

Aquamarine, on Mar 27 2009, 05:30 PM, said:

I am so ****ing sick of Zelda. I don't understand how people can still look forward to every new title in the franchise... I doubt I'll ever buy a Zelda again, even when the inevitable new Wii game gets released.

And to think franchises like Metroid and Fire Emblem will never again have the honour of getting another game...

A ****ing men.

The only thing I liked about this game was that postman Link reminded me of the postman from OoT and the Rito.

[Caael]

My hopes of ever seeing Termina again have gone out the window. Why make their top franchises kid-friendly? They've already got a ****load of money, what possible reason could making their franchises kiddy? At least before there were some remnants of the good old days (Mario Galaxy, Twilight Princess) but now...just no.

[Laharl]

Diddy Kong, on Mar 27 2009, 07:19 PM, said:

Not that Phantom Hourglas was bad perse

Yes, yes it was

[TheEnglishman]

It was ok, but it's biggest flaw also happened to be the main point of the game - that really big dungeon.
This is looking very dodgy though. I don't see how a train can be incorporated into a fantasy setting.

[Someone Else]

TheEnglishman, on Mar 28 2009, 09:37 AM, said:

This is looking very dodgy though. I don't see how a train can be incorporated into a fantasy setting.

It's called steampunk.

Believe it or not, it's been widely desired for there to be a steampunk Zelda.

This... is not what we meant, though.

[Legolastom]

Since when has Nintendo every provided what their fans wanted?

But **** would be nice if we had a sequel to Star Fox 64, not piles of **** with the Star Fox label slapped onto it.

[Someone Else]

Legolastom, on Mar 28 2009, 12:30 PM, said:

Since when has Nintendo every provided what their fans wanted?

Funny. I was actually looking at a particular Zelda forum with a poll about "traditional magic/medieval setting vs. steampunk".

The poll's votes widely preferred a traditional medieval and magic setting against a steampunk setting. Like, 20-3. Most of the posts mirrored this, being basically the same post saying that a traditional medieval setting was more conducive to Zelda or just more enjoyable. One post even said "don't tamper with a winning formula."

Some people were saying they did not like the steamboat in PH, and that it was borderline pushing it. Apparently TP was somehow getting a little too steampunk for some people...

I don't know, I guess this might just be one stupid community. I just think it's hard to believe and a little shocking that there's people out there that think like this... Zelda's still one of my favorite franchises, but I'm getting sick of seeing the same ****.

[TheEnglishman]

If this is in the same setting as PH, how do they plan to incorparate a train into a world which is 90% water?

[Someone Else]

I don't think it's the same "version" of Hyrule as TWW... probably just the same art style and engine as PH.

• It probably isn't the same Link. Lately it seems to be a tradtion that the new entrees into the Zelda universe, the new Link starts off without his green tunic. In WW, it was his PJs. TP, his village outfit. Here we see Link in train conductor clothes.
  
• Zelda is shown as simply Zelda in the trailer. Not Tetra.
  
• This must be a large continent to justify the train as a good way to travel around in this world. I guess it's possible that this could be just a really huge island in the Great Sea, but the story in TWW was that Hyrule was flooded and the islands you find are all the peaks of mountaintops of old Hyrule. So I doubt this.

However, it COULD be possible that this is a prequel to TWW, before everything gets all. You know. Underwater. Meaning we'll see Ganondorf. Again.

[TheEnglishman]

To be fair, Ganondorf on a spin off title would be better than Ganondorf as the villian in the main title for the 100th time.

[Toasty]

Steampunk = <3

But Zelda and trains doesn't really mix.

If it's going to be done, it needs to be done a lot better.


Nintendo should really consider making a steampunk-esque Zelda title, but with a whole new villain. Someone who doesn't even closely resemble Ganondorf or Vaadi (sp?) in physical appearance or personality. Basically, a Zelda that's fresh and new.

[Golden Legacy]

I actually didn't mind Vaati. Nintendo had a halfway interesting character there, cool name, and instead chose to make him another evil archetype.

And it would take a complete revamp of Zelda, control and game engine, for it to feel fresh. As always, I'll refrain judgment until we learn more about this. But heaven help us if this is the "new direction" for Zelda that Nintendo was referring to.

[Caael]

Golden Legacy, on Mar 29 2009, 01:50 AM, said:

I actually didn't mind Vaati. Nintendo had a halfway interesting character there, cool name, and instead chose to make him another evil archetype.

And it would take a complete revamp of Zelda, control and game engine, for it to feel fresh. As always, I'll refrain judgment until we learn more about this. But heaven help us if this is the "new direction" for Zelda that Nintendo was referring to.

Duh, where else did you think they were going to go? Actually do something FOR the fans?

[Aquamarine]

I've believed for a while already that steampunking Zelda would probably be a good move, but simply adding a train isn't exactly what I had in mind...

[Laharl]

TheEnglishman, on Mar 28 2009, 05:37 PM, said:

It was not ok, it's biggest flaw was the fact it traded fundamental aspects of gameplay for innovation. poorly.

fixed

[Thanatos]

Seeing this made me depressed about the Zelda franchise even more. What happened to the good quality of freaking Ocarina of Time or Majora's Mask? *Sigh* Nintendo needs to get their heads out of there ****ing ***es and learn to make the Zelda franchise good and desirable again.

[Drizzy Drake]

Asses.

EDIT-Just making sure that Thanatos censored his own words. *facepalm*

[TheEnglishman]

Thanatos, on Apr 2 2009, 05:36 PM, said:

Seeing this made me depressed about the Zelda franchise even more. What happened to the good quality of freaking Ocarina of Time or Majora's Mask? *Sigh* Nintendo needs to get their heads out of there ****ing ***es and learn to make the Zelda franchise good and desirable again.

I think the thing is that some people criticised some of the games for just simply sticking to the same formula, so they've tried to change it, which causes complaints from the other end.
I don't get what's up with people complaining about the series though. The games they've made have been good, it's not like they're in the same situation as the Sonic series.

[Aquamarine]

Me111, please enlighten me, what the **** have Nintendo tried to change in the Zelda games since OoT?

[TheEnglishman]

I dunno, art style with Wind Waker, the big dungeon in PH. I said 'tried' not necessarily succeeded.

[Caael]

Termina was a step in the right direction, and I suppose WW wasn't too bad. Twilight Princess was the closest to the original OOT formula but it just went bad after that.

[Someone Else]

PH was pretty well different than the rest of the Zelda games. There were changes, but they just weren't good changes.

The recent Zelda games have been above-average games in their own right. However, that doesn't mean that they're good Zelda games.

[Legolastom]

LMAO Exactly, I mean ****ing hell you visit the dungeons in the same ****ing order in each game.

[Caael]

moar termina plx kthxbai

[Someone Else]

Caael, you keep talking about how Zelda should return to Termina, but I don't really see how that will make the game better. Yeah, Majora's Mask is my favorite Zelda but Termina wasn't what made me like it...

[Toasty]

I say they make a new "world" (no more freaking hyrule), make a new evil bad guy person (or maybe just drop the whole "evil guy trying to rule/destroy the world plot all together), and change up the dungeon crawling thing. the great thing about WW was that there were plenty of things to do without actually going through a dungeon. Even if they were mostly side-quests.

Drizzy Drake, on Apr 2 2009, 12:57 PM, said:

Asses.

EDIT-Just making sure that Thanatos censored his own words. *facepalm*

I do that all the time :D

[Caael]

Someone Else, on Apr 2 2009, 10:12 PM, said:

Caael, you keep talking about how Zelda should return to Termina, but I don't really see how that will make the game better. Yeah, Majora's Mask is my favorite Zelda but Termina wasn't what made me like it...

Not Termina specifically, but the surreal atmosphere created in it. You genuinely felt connected to the characters in it and because the plot was pretty morbid for a Zelda game it was a lot more tense. I'd love to see a remake of Majoras Mask, if anything.

[Someone Else]

I agree with you there completely. Another Zelda like that would be great. I think a remake would kinda ruin the whole point of something "new" though...

[Drizzy Drake]

Toasty, on Apr 2 2009, 06:33 PM, said:

I say they make a new "world" (no more freaking hyrule), make a new evil bad guy person (or maybe just drop the whole "evil guy trying to rule/destroy the world plot all together), and change up the dungeon crawling thing. the great thing about WW was that there were plenty of things to do without actually going through a dungeon. Even if they were mostly side-quests.

I do that all the time :D

You`re also a loser, so it all works out. :silence:.

[Legolastom]

Wait new Zelda game? I thought they were all remakes.

[Caael]

Someone Else, on Apr 3 2009, 01:07 AM, said:

I agree with you there completely. Another Zelda like that would be great. I think a remake would kinda ruin the whole point of something "new" though...

But every time they try something 'new' they fail and are ****.

[TheEnglishman]

A game that simply had the same atmosphere as MM would be great but I can't see Nintendo going down that route. Twilight Princess sort of had it, but it didn't have the feeling that you were only a few hours away from the end of the world.
EDIT:
http://www.gg-guys.com/img/comic/31.jpg

[Aquamarine]

I actually think the train idea is all right. What I don't like is that it'll be the ONLY thing that makes it different to PH, and Nintendo will keep advertising it as an absolutely huge change to the whole Zelda formula.

[Golden Legacy]

To be absolutely fair, all we have on the game is one trailer. Whether the train aspect is the only "new" feature in Spirit Tracks will have to wait for now.

[Someone Else]

What I'm hoping is that they bring the overworld back and the train is just fast-travel for those that don't want to walk.

I mean, an overworld might be a little unwieldy to traverse all the time in the Zelda DS engine... the camera is zoomed kinda close.

[Lemontime]

The Legend of Zelda: Spirit '64 Impala..

[Toasty]

*Link's sword magically transforms into an uzi*