[Caael]

http://www.computera...e.php?id=215975

Just watched this trailer and JIZZED everywhere. Seriously I'm so ridiculously excited about this.

[Nosferatu]

I will om nom nom it like I have never om nom nomed before.

[Caael]

Mini Nukes! In Mass Effect!

*fap fap fap fap*

[Ironsight]

http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/6302/14684402150a03962ee.jpg

[Nosferatu]

The Behind Closed Doors Demo.

Quote

June 2, 2009 - BioWare played with our emotions quite a bit in the lead up to E3. The gaming world was left in limbo as the company teased us with rumors of Commander Shepard's death, only to finally let us know that your character started in the first Mass Effect will carry through as the main protagonist straight through the entire trilogy. Well, it will if you manage to keep Commander Shepard alive. This darker entry into the Mass Effect franchise will find Shepard making decisions that will ultimately build together into a web of your creation that can mean life or death by the end of the game. You'll only get to carry your Shepard on to Mass Effect 3 if you manage to survive Mass Effect 2.

And as we saw at the end of the E3 demo that closed with the Normandy in flames and Shepard drifting off into the gravity well of a nearby planet, survival might not be the end you find in Mass Effect 2.

WAT. Shepard must live. He must liiiiiiiiiive.

Quote

Once the group fought through to Thane's target, we were treated to another interactive cutscene. In addition to the conversation wheel that Mass Effect brought to the table, the sequel adds a prompt that flashes in the lower left corner of the screen. Hit a button at the right time and you'll affect cutscenes as they play out. In this case, Shepard punched a guard through a window and then watched him fall about 100 stories to the ground below. I put in my notes after this point, "Shepard is a badass." I can't think of a better way to describe him now, so I'll leave it at that.

Optional quick time events? Hmm. Fairly nice.

[Caael]

Nom nom nom nom.

<3 Bioware.

[Nosferatu]

Hey, who wants something awesome?

http://e3.gamespot.com/video/6211459/

<3 Shepard, you so awesome.

[Max]

Sweet video. I loved ME, I'm really looking forward to the sequel. Hopefully the system requirements for PC won't go up too much.

[Mo Cappy Ton]

ohh boy, another game to add to the list of NEED TO OWN! added weapon variety should be awesome.

[Nosferatu]

So, I heard Bioware doesn't expect us to survive.

[Split Infinity]

How exactly is this supposed to make the game better? I'm all for replay value, but I don't want to be forced to restart an RPG just because of a few arbitrary decisions.

[Nosferatu]

Split Infinity, on Jun 4 2009, 11:22 PM, said:

How exactly is this supposed to make the game better? I'm all for replay value, but I don't want to be forced to restart an RPG just because of a few arbitrary decisions.

Dude, I've restarted Oblivion over 40+ times, Fallout 3 around 10 and played ME about 6 times through.

Don't even TRY to tell me you're too lazy to playthrough a game again.

[Split Infinity]

Look who you're talking to. I haven't played any of those ONCE, let alone modded them over nine thousand times across two different platforms.

[Kemosabi]

I'm pretty excited for this game! I'm not sure how I feel about the whole "KEEP SHEPHERD ALIVE!!" kinda deal, I guess we'll see how that pans out. I'm also a little worried about the new targeting system; it seems like it'd be too Fallout 3-ish.

Oh well, Bioware has never made a game that disappointed me, so I'm not going to sweat the small stuff. I'm just pleased for ME2 and possibly ME3!

[Caael]

Kemosabi, on Jun 6 2009, 03:03 PM, said:

I'm pretty excited for this game! I'm not sure how I feel about the whole "KEEP SHEPHERD ALIVE!!" kinda deal, I guess we'll see how that pans out. I'm also a little worried about the new targeting system; it seems like it'd be too Fallout 3-ish.

Oh well, Bioware has never made a game that disappointed me, so I'm not going to sweat the small stuff. I'm just pleased for ME2 and possibly ME3!

It'll be more like Crackdowns targetting I'm guessing.

Remember that crackdown came before Fallout 3 with body-targetting. Plus Fallout 3's was not only not real time, it was in slo-mo, so you could crack out a lot more shots than your enemy can. With real time, I doubt it'll make too much of a difference.

But yeah, the "Keep shepard alive" concept is original, but I too am not so sure on it quite yet. It all depends on the steps needed to keep him alive. I mean, I want to keep him alive but I dont want to have to use a guide and ruin the story just to keep him alive. I'll probably just have a first play-through where I just see what the story is and see what happens, then if he dies on that, start a second file to try keep him living.

[Nosferatu]

http://kotaku.com/5287495/no-more-bossing-...-mass-effect-2-[update]

Quote

"To get ready for that you’re going to have to build up your crew, build the best team that you can, build up your ship, and then when you think you’re ready you’re gonna go in and do it." ”

"If you don’t do a lot of the stuff, or make the right kind of choices, the ending will be a bloodbath, and the people that you brought with you will die, and it’ll be a great ending, but it’ll be that kind of ending."

I do officially like how the Mass Effect series is turning out. It's series like this that show games can be serious not unlike a movie, or book. Bioware, hats off.

Although holy **** how will they pull off Mass Effect 3?

[My Best Wishes]

I just finished Mass Effect so I'm a bit keen for this.

So what's the story?

Spoiler

Is he going into Dark Space to kill all the Reapers, and why do people think he's dead.

[Nosferatu]

watch, on Jun 13 2009, 05:19 PM, said:

I just finished Mass Effect so I'm a bit keen for this.

So what's the story?

Spoiler

Is he going into Dark Space to kill all the Reapers, and why do people think he's dead.

Spoiler

We don't know a lot yet, but he's assembling a squad for a supposed suicide mission. If ya lookit that article I posted, it'll explain a bit.

[Nosferatu]

http://xbox360.ign.com/dor/objects/1423501...vdp_061209.html

Quote

Health packs have been done away with.

Uhm, on one hand I like that and on the other hand damnit.

Quote

Your Mass Effect 1 save will carry over, but not your stats so sorry level grinders, you'll have to start over again.

http://bulk.destructoid.com/ul/user/1/17189-130475-RageFace2png-620x.jpg

[My Best Wishes]

Looks like getting that level 60 achievement was a waste for you.

I hardly used the medi-gel in the first one, probably only about 5 times, my Shepard was a solider so health wasn't really an issue.

[Legolastom]

What? Not level? FFFFFFFF not sure if I will bother getting those extra 2 levels for level 60 now...

Also hope the side missions in this are much, much better than in 1 and also that there are more of them.

[Nosferatu]

http://blogs.ign.com...9/06/17/123208/

Quote

“Was that a reload animation I saw in the demo?” Like in the first game, most of the futuristic weapons in Mass Effect 2 do not require ammo but they do overheat. The difference now is that instead of waiting for your weapon to cool, you can hit a button to eject a small heat sink to immediately cool the weapon and get back into firing. So it’s a similar system but now you are in control of the cooldown.

Sexy.

Edit:

Quote

(END SPOILERS) Interesting! It's a bold attempt at story-telling from the team, and on the one hand, such ballsy creative moves should be applauded, if only on principle.

This. Bioware <3

[Nosferatu]

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/exclusiv...ss-effect/52551

OM NOM NOM NOM.

Edit: SPACE EXPLORATION IS SEXY. I like the idea of not being able to jump from one side of the galaxy to the other on one "tank of gas", so to speak.

Plus that one planet/ The new planet scanning is sexy.

[Caael]

Game of the year '10

[Legolastom]

Wait when is it coming out again? Next year?

[Caael]

Q1 2010

[Legolastom]

Moar leik Q2 2010.

[Split Infinity]

Logo reminds me of another game.

http://www.digitaldevildb.com/images/boxart/full/persona_3_fes/p3fes_full_full.jpg

[Fury]

Persona....*sighs*

So if Shepard dies, whats gonna happen come ME3? Who could you control? And the game looks sexy. <33333

[Caael]

New character if Shepard dies

[Legolastom]

You would control Rex or Luke.

[Drizzy Drake]

Whilst we can’t reveal any specifics right now, we can now reveal that the PlayStation 3 will play host to a popular 360 favourite. The title, which has to remain under wraps with us for the time being, will be released towards the end of the year. We’ve been promised more information in roughly a month’s time, at which point we’ll be able to share the specifics, first.

Our contact has also let us know that the studio will have other exciting news to share soon enough. Note that we can not talk about this further at this stage.


it`s either ME2, or L4D2, no doubt about it.

[Caael]

Drizzy Drake, on Jul 11 2009, 04:49 PM, said:

Whilst we can't reveal any specifics right now, we can now reveal that the PlayStation 3 will play host to a popular 360 favourite. The title, which has to remain under wraps with us for the time being, will be released towards the end of the year. We've been promised more information in roughly a month's time, at which point we'll be able to share the specifics, first.

Our contact has also let us know that the studio will have other exciting news to share soon enough. Note that we can not talk about this further at this stage.


it`s either ME2, or L4D2, no doubt about it.

Or Alan Wake. Or Splinter Cell Conviction.

[Nosferatu]

Drizzy Drake, on Jul 11 2009, 08:49 AM, said:

Whilst we can’t reveal any specifics right now, we can now reveal that the PlayStation 3 will play host to a popular 360 favourite. The title, which has to remain under wraps with us for the time being, will be released towards the end of the year. We’ve been promised more information in roughly a month’s time, at which point we’ll be able to share the specifics, first.

Our contact has also let us know that the studio will have other exciting news to share soon enough. Note that we can not talk about this further at this stage.


it`s either ME2, or L4D2, no doubt about it.

Can't be ME2 if this game is coming out before the end of the year. ME2 is coming out next year.

[Drizzy Drake]

****, my bad. well my bets on l4d then.

EDIT - and lol @ splinter cell being a popular 360 favourite. shitty game is shitty.

[Fury]

Is that scene where

Spoiler

the Normandy gets destroyed

one of the games endings?

[Someone Else]

Good luck with L4D on PS3. Valve doesn't give a **** about PS3.

[Split Infinity]

They did manage to get EA to port (read: shoehorn) Orange Box onto the console, so there's always that chance.

[Legolastom]

As said a million times the Normandy being destroyed is not an ending.

[Nosferatu]

Some times I really can't tell if you're trolling or being stupid.

[Drizzy Drake]

YOUSE TROLLIN

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=Cdiz0k0Rudw

[Fury]

I must have missed that. My bad.

[Nosferatu]

Guess what game I'm mostly likely to be playing at PAX?

[Legolastom]

Pokemon ruby and sapphire?

[Nosferatu]

Quote

Jarret Lee confirmed yesterday that Tali is indeed returning as a party member. We have long suspected the female quarian in the screenshots was her, but now we know for sure. I'll post some screenshots so you can see what she looks like now.

I should also mention that the devs have been hinting that quarian "contact" with humans would not be lethal as so many fans have spoofed, this lends more credence to the theory that there will actually be a Tali romance plot in ME2.

OH LAWD

[Ironsight]

Quote

Jarret Lee confirmed yesterday that Tali is indeed returning as a party member. We have long suspected the female quarian in the screenshots was her, but now we know for sure. I'll post some screenshots so you can see what she looks like now.

I should also mention that the devs have been hinting that quarian "contact" with humans would not be lethal as so many fans have spoofed, this lends more credence to the theory that there will actually be a Tali romance plot in ME2.

http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/7443/murrayx280x4206381a.jpg

[Legolastom]

She made Elivator rides fun but otherwise Wrex and Garrus forever.

[Nosferatu]

http://www.xbox360achievements.org/news/ne...ted--Pre-Order-

At least this shows that the armour won't be mostly retextures.
And dated finally <3

[Caael]

DO FUCKING WANT

[Caael]

I'd just like to bump with a mention of the Adept class trailer, that can be found on GameTrailers (find it yaself)

All I can say is, I really wish I didn't chose soldier in the first game now.

[Nosferatu]

Quote

According to Casey Hudson in a round table discussion, they were originally planning to do a Tali romance in ME1, but it was dropped in concept becuase they thought no one would be interested. How very wrong they were.

Edit: And this http://www.youtube.c...h?v=7x****NLakc

Edit 2: Lol wut? Gimme a moment. http://kotaku.com/5416083/mass-effect-2s-n...-girl-kicks-ass

[Nosferatu]

Oh hai guiz. So it turns out Mass Effect 2 will be 2-3 discs.

http://kotaku.com/5418534/mass-effect-2-ex...scs-sometimes-3

[Caael]

Special edition (pre-order) get!

[Nosferatu]

I'm lazy, so:

Quote

Lifeform287 RT @masseffect2 Remember, new Engineer Class video later today over at IGN. Keep checking their site for release. http://nzy5mz.xrt.me

[Nosferatu]

This. http://www.youtube.c...h?v=h6fuiNpTHzY

[Caael]

http://b.mektroid.net/i_came.jpg

[Nosferatu]

So I herd you like save-data importing info.

Quote

Casey Hudson, Project Director for BioWare, and Greg Zeschuk, BioWare co-founder, as well as various developers on the official Mass Effect message boards, have said that players should keep their Mass Effect save-files,[21][22] because decisions made by the player in the first game will continue to have influences on their character in the sequel.[23] Each completed game will be viewable by the player when deciding which save to import into Mass Effect 2, and a summary of some of the key decisions made during the game will be shown to help you make sure you import the save you want.[24]

Players who have not played the first Mass Effect will start a new character in Mass Effect 2, and will be brought up to speed on the story elements that have taken place thus far in the series. Hudson also states that characters from the previous game will come back, provided that they were not killed.[21]

When transferring a file from the first Mass Effect, players have the option to change their class to a different one. For example, if the player wanted to play as an Engineer instead of an Infiltrator, the player may change their character's class while still importing the choices made in the first game.[20]

[Caael]

No more boring ass soldier for me :rolleyes:

[Nosferatu]

Quote

This is hard to reconcile having not played Mass Effect 2, of course, and myself having not completed the original (I've also not finished Catch-22, The Great Gatsby and other significant works of literature. It happens, you know.)

<3

[Nosferatu]

Aight so I'ma think this up using the achievements and the classes.
DERP SPOILERS -> The achievements btw

If I can't quite tell which class they would seem to be I'll just put the most likely one that I would think first.

The Biotic Convict - Subject Zero - Vanguard or Adept
The Krogan - Grunt - Soldier
Archangel - Garrus - Infiltrator
The Professor - Mordin - Sentinel
The Quarian - Tali - Engineer
The Justicar - Samara - Adept or Vanguard
The Assassin - Thane - Vanguard
Geth Technology - Legion - Soldier or Infiltrator
The Cerberus Operative - Jacob - Vanguard
The Cerberus Officer - Miranda - Soldier

[Legolastom]

Vanguard 4 life.

[Nosferatu]

So I herd you liek new dev diaries.

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=Q7Tl_fxMuu8

[Legolastom]

This is better: http://www.gametrailers.com/video/exclusiv...ss-effect/60946

[Nosferatu]

Okay so, looking at the Mass Effect wiki I saw some decisions that are confirmed to matter. One strikes me as being very odd.

Quote

-The decision to save either Kaidan or Ashley.
-Whether or not the player kills Wrex on Virmire.
-Whether or not the player decides to save the Citadel Council at the end of Mass Effect.
-The player's choice of love interest.
-Whether the player spares or destroys the Rachni Queen at Peak 15.
-The player's treatment of Conrad Verner.
-Whether or not the player completed the UNC: Asari Diplomacy sidequest.
-Whether the player chose to allow the Alliance to conduct experiments on Nirali Bhatia's body.

How in the hell does he matter?

Edit: "In a recent interview, Casey Hudson referred to Conrad Verner as "Commander Verner" which could indicate that if he survived the events of Mass Effect that he has joined the Alliance."

Fuuuuuck that.

[Caael]

Conrad verner was only slightly less annoying than "adoring fan"

[Nosferatu]

On a slightly more wtf note... wtf.

http://masseffect.wi...fty_Looking_Cow

[Legolastom]

OOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLLLDDDDDDDDDDDD

[Nosferatu]

Legolastom, on Jan 19 2010, 09:34 AM, said:

OOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLLLDDDDDDDDDDDD

I don't go to that wiki very often, so blow me.

Also this.
http://xbox360.ign.c.../1061782p1.html

[Legolastom]

Very good.

[Nosferatu]

Sci Versus Fi. Part Three. 2:40.
http://www.gametrailers.com/video/exclusiv...ss-effect/60957
THAT MADE MY FUCKING DAY.

[Legolastom]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATHFzMcEgYA...player_embedded

I... I... my god...

[Nosferatu]

That has got to be one of the best trailers I have ever seen.

[Caael]

There's white stuff coming out of my penis and it just wont stop.

[Nosferatu]

Quote

TudorVII: Mass Effect 2 launch trailer is nothing short of epic! Damnit, still 8 days to go!
Lifeform287: @TudorVII It's... so beautiful. Also 5 days.
TudorVII: @Lifeform287 FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU-

[Nosferatu]

So apparently the 360 version was leaked yesterday and the PC version today.

I shall be avoiding the internets for a while.

[Nosferatu]

http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/4151/mordin.jpg
http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/664/tali.jpg

Bitches best not be clickin' this link unless they have finished the game. http://www.youtube.c...h?v=wmMot8ZnM_A

[Little C]

God your so gay

[Ironsight]

ANYWAYS
Whats the general consensus; is ME2 better than ME1? How much from the first game carries over to the second?

[Nosferatu]

Little C, on Feb 27 2010, 12:24 AM, said:

God your so gay

Only half so, sir.

Darksword, on Feb 27 2010, 12:34 AM, said:

ANYWAYS
Whats the general consensus; is ME2 better than ME1? How much from the first game carries over to the second?

Bettar. A few things missing from the first, but overall waaaaaay better. Which is saying a lot cause ME1 has my heart.

[Caael]

Nosferatu, on Feb 27 2010, 09:53 AM, said:

Only half so, sir.


Bettar. A few things missing from the first, but overall waaaaaay better. Which is saying a lot cause ME1 has my heart.

AND MY AX-

It removes the things in ME1 that weren't so great and replaces them with slightly better systems (still not perfect). The old inventory system is gone (thank fuck) but the new one is only marginally better. Basically ME1= RPG with TPS elements. ME2= TPS with RPG elements.

[Nosferatu]

http://kotaku.com/5492103/mass-effect-2-dl...re-earth-teases

Om nom nom Earth.

[Nosferatu]

First things first, look at who I am following on Twitter as of late. Hillarious.

The Turian Coucillor just joined too. FIRST TWEET: "Ah yes, "Twitter". The short messaging service on the extranet. Presumably used by millions. We have dismissed that claim."

[TheEnglishman]

So I've started playing 2 and it's pretty good so far. I've just gotten my ship, so I'm not too far in, but it's enjoyable. I didn't realise it was two disks though.

[TheEnglishman]

So there was a mission that I discovered on a planet and I had to change the disk before I could do it. Are some missions specifically on one disk?

[Nosferatu]

TheEnglishman, on Aug 20 2010, 11:33 AM, said:

So there was a mission that I discovered on a planet and I had to change the disk before I could do it. Are some missions specifically on one disk?

Most, if not all, of the N7 missions are on Disc 2. The first bit of the game and the final mission are on Disc 1.

[TheEnglishman]

That's a little strange. I'm used to half a game being on one disk, and the other half on another, rather than it switching around like that.

[Saturos S.]

I saw the game in the bargain box yesterday so I bought it. Won't be playing it till next week though since I'm off for week, leaving tomorrow. But I was just wondering, do you need to play mass effect 1 to understand the story line? or is it just added bonusses you get when you do the import character thing?

[ThankMeLater]

Be mad that when we get this, it'll look better and we'll get extra shit.

[TheEnglishman]

Saturos S., on Aug 22 2010, 04:34 PM, said:

I saw the game in the bargain box yesterday so I bought it. Won't be playing it till next week though since I'm off for week, leaving tomorrow. But I was just wondering, do you need to play mass effect 1 to understand the story line? or is it just added bonusses you get when you do the import character thing?

They do make a fair number of references to the first game, but I wouldn't say it was essential, though I do wonder

Spoiler

how the Kaiden/Ashley situation

is resolved if you haven't played 1.

[Mallick]

There are repercussions to not playing the first game. There are lots of decisions that subtly affect how ME2 plays out. If you don't transfer save data, the game plays out as if you made the worst possible decisions in ME1.

[ThankMeLater]

So I should go get ME1 then, cause I was planning on grabbing this?

[Mallick]

Probably, but only if you won't get turned off of ME2 by ME1. ME1 was a good game, but it was quite boring at times. In ME1 there are lot of copy/paste planets you need to visit and you end up spending a good 2 or 3 hours of gameplay driving up the side of a mountain in your mako (your vehicle which has TERRIBLE handling).

It's also got more cluttered of a skill book and is a total loot fest. You've gotta manage armor upgrades as well as weapon upgrades and ammo types. All of this was perfectly manageable until ME2 came out, but post-ME2, which streamlined a ton of shit, it's all really annoying.

[ThankMeLater]

Well then I should play ME1 first, as I'll never go back after playing ME2.

[Mallick]

ThankMeLater, on Aug 22 2010, 06:55 PM, said:

I'll never go back after playing ME2.

I don't know about that. I'm playing the first game right now.

[Saturos S.]

Love this game already, I'm quite bad at hacking stuff though. I'll have to get used to that.

[Mallick]

It's really easy, they give you way too much time. If you're having trouble, though, there's a shop on Omega that offers an upgrade for +100% hacking time.

[Saturos S.]

Mallick, on Aug 30 2010, 10:32 AM, said:

It's really easy, they give you way too much time. If you're having trouble, though, there's a shop on Omega that offers an upgrade for +100% hacking time.

Yeah, I was using the wrong arrow keys so nothing happened. >_>

[Zeypher]

Just got it for PS3. 97% installed so far :D

[Mallick]

Is mass effect ps3 on bluray?

[Zeypher]

Yes it is. One glorious disk.

[Mallick]

damn. my blu ray reader quit working like a week ago

[Someone Else]

You can also get it on the PSN I'm pretty sure.

[Zeypher]

If you want to wait like ten hours for it to download. PSN downloads are sooooooo slow.

[Caael]

What are your thoughts so far Zeyph? Enjoying it?

[Zeypher]

It's definitely a good game but it feels more like a glorified third person shooter than an epic RPG adventure to me. Still enjoying it, though.

[Ironsight]

Yeah, I don't think I enjoyed ME2 as I did the first game.

[Someone Else]

I'd heard people on the internets complain that ME2 isn't really an RPG, but I was skeptical of that complaint because neckbeard RPG fans complain about everything. After playing ME1 and ME2 (though I haven't finished it) I'd have to say I actually agree. If ME2 is an RPG, then so is God of War.

I wouldn't say it makes the game worse, though, I'd only just barely classify ME1 as an RPG as it is, and most of those RPG aspects were inelegantly designed. ME2 is a much better game than ME1, but if Bioware intended Mass Effect to be an RPG then they should at least bring ME1's character building back into ME3, or something similar to it.

[Someone Else]

Spoiler

Is everyone on the Normandy supposed to get kidnapped after acquiring the IFF or did I do something wrong by waiting too long or... something? I guess I'm just confused by this gigantic plot device/hole:

Shep: oh shit guys we need to do a mission with everybody in the squad even though I usually take just three people, seth green joker don't do anything stupid.

EDI: H'OH SHIT COLLECTORS R INVADING THE SHIP SETH HALP

Meh, I have to reload to an earlier save anyway and I'll do the IFF quest later to be safe. Accidentally initiated Jack's romance plot. Bitch has issues that I'd like to work out, but frankly I think that she would benefit more from a platonic relationship with a man than a romantic one - she needs to learn to make friends without benefits. Maybe the writers don't think the same way, we'll see.

Is it even possible to hear the whole story of some the characters without pursuing their romance plots? Tali hasn't talked to me since I turned her down (lightly). It sounds like she has more to say but keeps saying she's busy. Tali is an extremely likable character, but I dunno, I'm not a shipper but Shep + Tali just doesn't seem right. I like Kelly. She's cute and feeds my fish.

Garrus stopped talking to me after his loyalty mission, too. Bastard's too busy just "doing calibrations" because I'm not a chick. Oh well, that's realistic I guess. Hardly anyone is a bro these days.

The only two characters that I seem to have maxed out the stories are Jacob (who wants to get loud and spill drinks on the citadel, he's a true bro unlike Garrus) and Grunt, so... I dunno.

[Caael]

Someone Else, on 01 February 2011 - 04:25 AM, said:

Spoiler

Is everyone on the Normandy supposed to get kidnapped after acquiring the IFF or did I do something wrong by waiting too long or... something? I guess I'm just confused by this gigantic plot device/hole:

Shep: oh shit guys we need to do a mission with everybody in the squad even though I usually take just three people, seth green joker don't do anything stupid.

EDI: H'OH SHIT COLLECTORS R INVADING THE SHIP SETH HALP

Meh, I have to reload to an earlier save anyway and I'll do the IFF quest later to be safe. Accidentally initiated Jack's romance plot. Bitch has issues that I'd like to work out, but frankly I think that she would benefit more from a platonic relationship with a man than a romantic one - she needs to learn to make friends without benefits. Maybe the writers don't think the same way, we'll see.

Is it even possible to hear the whole story of some the characters without pursuing their romance plots? Tali hasn't talked to me since I turned her down (lightly). It sounds like she has more to say but keeps saying she's busy. Tali is an extremely likable character, but I dunno, I'm not a shipper but Shep + Tali just doesn't seem right. I like Kelly. She's cute and feeds my fish.

Garrus stopped talking to me after his loyalty mission, too. Bastard's too busy just "doing calibrations" because I'm not a chick. Oh well, that's realistic I guess. Hardly anyone is a bro these days.

The only two characters that I seem to have maxed out the stories are Jacob (who wants to get loud and spill drinks on the citadel, he's a true bro unlike Garrus) and Grunt, so... I dunno.

Uhh yeah try and do as many side missions as possible before getting the IFF because it essentially takes you into the endgame period. Doesn't prevent you from doing more consequences without your crew but there will be...consequences.

And to hear the whole story without romancing people, just choose the 'neutral' option. The ones that pursue the romance are usually quite obvious so avoid and go down the neutral route.

Following the loyalty missions, some still have loads to talk about and some have nothing:

Garrus wont really talk to you much more.
Thane has LOADS to talk about his history
Mordin has a sizeable chunk (and a song :D)
Miranda doesn't have much and is a fairly boring character anyway
Tali has a sizeable amount but romance is needed
Jack has a sizeable amount, and is possible without romance
Jacob is a bro and will make it clear when theres nothing left to talk about (as you've discovered)
Grunt does the same as Jacob essentially
Samara has a moderate amount
Legion has loads to talk about, I dont think I've ever maxed out his conversation options across 4 playthroughs (granted because I always forget he's in the AI core and you acquire him quite late)
Zaeed doesn't really count but some of his trophies are interesting
Kasumi, like Zaeed doesn't have actual options but you can discuss her trophies with her as well which is cool.


Overall, I'd say Thane has the most to talk about, and the most interesting backstory. I'm loving the fact that Bioware has started an 'unofficial campaign' over their facebook group to determine his fate for ME3.

[Someone Else]

Daaamn Bioware wowed me here.

Spoiler

...

Shep: That doesn't explain why you used my armor to fix yourself.

Legion: ... there was a hole.

Shep: But why didn't you fix it sooner, or with something else?

Legion: ... no data available

That scene was powerful and done really well. I've become unimpressed with Bioware's stories, but they do know how to write dialogue and make characters (at least half of the time anyway).

[Zeypher]

Are you being sarcastic...?

[Caael]

Someone Else, on 02 February 2011 - 02:28 AM, said:

Daaamn Bioware wowed me here.

Spoiler

...

Shep: That doesn't explain why you used my armor to fix yourself.

Legion: ... there was a hole.

Shep: But why didn't you fix it sooner, or with something else?

Legion: ... no data available

That scene was powerful and done really well. I've become unimpressed with Bioware's stories, but they do know how to write dialogue and make characters (at least half of the time anyway).

Sarcasm or not, that scene is fucken hilarious.

Also, I strongly recommend a femshep just so you can romance Thane because it's honestly some of the best writing I've ever seen in a game.

[Someone Else]

Zeypher, on 02 February 2011 - 09:19 AM, said:

Are you being sarcastic...?

It looks stupid on paper, you have to see it in the actual game. Legion's body language and the tone of his voice pulls it off really well. You don't expect admiration from a robot, that's why the subtlty of the whole thing hit me with a "whoa" when it clicked. And yeah, it's kinda funny to see a robot get so awkward. It's a robot! :P

Also why are you looking at spoilers for a game you haven't finished anyway? :B

[Caael]

Shepard is so awesome he can mindfuck a Geth

[Someone Else]

Finished. Damn good game, though the story is waaaay overrated just like Dragon Age. The Mass Effect universe itself is amazing, blue alien lesbians aside. My favorite game of last year is still RDR.

I still want to play this more, good thing there's Shadow Broker to play. :D Though ten bucks is about the most I'm willing to pay for DLC...

[Caael]

Shadow Broker: One of the best pieces of DLC for any game I've ever played, and I've played Lost and the Damned. MORE than worth it. Overlord and Stolen Memory are incredible as well.

[Someone Else]

What the heck? This DLC was not worth ten bucks at all. It was barely even an hour long.

It's awesome compared to the free DLC they gave through the Cerberus Network I suppose but still. 5 bucks and it would've been a good deal, 10 bucks is a rip off for this.

[Zeypher]

Hoho, I got all that shitty DLC for free with my purchase of the PS3 version.

[Someone Else]

No, it was fun while it lasted. If I'm honest I don't like T'Soni much (bit creepy) but damn, I just blew ten bucks on content that lasted not that much longer than an hour. Joke's on me I guess, I'm surprised there wasn't a fuss over it. I rarely buy DLC myself, maybe the gaming community in general is just used to being ripped off with DLC? I mean, COD map packs for 15 fucking dollars.

Now, Rockstar did DLC right with Red Dead Redemption. Undead Nightmare (amazing!!), numerous expansions to multiplayer free roam, and it could've been even better with free updates if Microsoft didn't have a horribly greedy policy to the way developers patch their games on the 360. (there's a reason why DLC is free for L4D on PC and not on 360, and why Valve has Steamworks on PS3 but not 360)

[Nosferatu]

O hai, I heard you liek Arrival.

http://www.xbox360ac...-Confirmed.html

Edit: And I went back and check some of the Cerberus Daily News updates and got this guy. Let it be noted that this was the very last update on the Network before it was ended.

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01/24/2186
Monday, January 24th, 2011

Historians and astronomers alike are abuzz tonight over a new paper published by Dr. Amanda Kenson of the University of Arcturus. Her team claims that by testing the dust trapped in the gravity wells around a mass relay, and comparing its composition to that of dust clouds in the same system, scientists can create a timeline of when the relay passed through the dust. Her conclusion? “Only a small fraction of the mass effect relays date back 50,000 years,” she writes, “The majority are far older, indicating they were created by a species predating even the Protheans.” Dr. Aurana T’Meles of the University of Serrice met the information with skepticism: “While Dr. Kenson’s methods appear sound, the asari tried a similar procedure centuries ago and discounted it. What civilization could have spanned the galaxy for not thousands, but millions of years? If this were the case, we should have found mountains of evidence of their passing. Where is this species now?”

[Someone Else]

Apparently you have to hug Kelly to get the end-game romance. I could swear I did, but this was months ago and it's the only thing I can think of that I might've done wrong.

Pff. Bitches. You can give them a nice dinner, compliment them, save their life, but if you miss one hug it's nothing :[

[Caael]

Kelly's isn't a "full" romance FYI.

ROMANCE THANE AS FEMSHEP, BEST WRITING I'VE SEEN IN A GAME IN A LONG TIME

[Nosferatu]

Sup bitches, hope you like confirmation.
http://s3.amazonaws.com/twitpic/photos/large/254550266.jpg?AWSAccessKeyId=0ZRYP5X5F6FSMBCCSE82&Expires=1299615285&Signature=95QP3g4i6SaZR4vDvNeyLG5FSiQ%3D

Edit: Aaaaaand finally announced.
http://kotaku.com/#!...ct-2-dlc-coming

Edit 2:

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Teloah Siaion: Yo dickballs
Teloah Siaion: From biofeed on twitter about 10 seconds ago:
Teloah Siaion: "New screenshots from Mass Effect 2 keep Arriving!! Here's another one.... http://yfrog.com/hstw7jij"

[Nosferatu]

Edit: Hurp durp look up one