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#1   Fury 

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    Posted 31 July 2009 - 07:17 PM

    Say some one is talking to some one else via something like phone or internet and one guy says he has a serious, life-threatning injury that would leave a scar or some other form of indication that proves his story actually happend, but dosen't. He tells the other guy this to see how he reacts.

    Later, they're gonna meet or hangout and when they do, GuyA(the one who got hurt)dosen't have a scar to show what happend. The only thing he has is his word. When GuyB sees this, he will know at once that his friend was lying.

    My question is this, what would you guys think if GuyA gave himself an injury that would give him a scar in conjunction with his story? For example, GuyA's story says he got shot in his right hand so naturally he would have a hole in his hand. But of course he was lying. So before he meets GuyB, he puts a hole in his hand to make it look he actually got shot.

    Discuss.

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      Posted 31 July 2009 - 07:54 PM

      You put a hole in your hand, didnt you.

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        Posted 31 July 2009 - 08:13 PM

        I would have to say that Guy A must be a huge ass attention whore. Unless he has some major justification for wanting to impress Guy B with his badass scars.

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          Posted 31 July 2009 - 09:09 PM

          I don't undderstand why anyone would do that. Why is it important enough to justify their lie?

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            Posted 31 July 2009 - 09:21 PM

            I agree with WD on this. Also, "Flippin' emos....."

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              Posted 31 July 2009 - 09:56 PM

              I second WD, and would also be curious to see if Person A would be capable of maintaining his lie (i.e. backing it up with a story without loopholes or clear errors).

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                Posted 01 August 2009 - 06:32 AM

                Erm, well if you got shot in the hand, you wouldn't really have a hole. It would heal, and you would have a mark on your hand. And I don't see how this question could be hypothetical at all, so you really need psychiatric help, BRO.

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                  Posted 01 August 2009 - 12:02 PM

                  Wut??

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                    Posted 01 August 2009 - 02:45 PM

                    Also another thing, even an untrained eye would be able to tell if a bullet wound was made recently or not. So... you'd really have to plan ahead.

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                      Posted 01 August 2009 - 03:30 PM

                      Fury, did you lie to a friend about being shot in the hand?

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                        Posted 01 August 2009 - 03:36 PM

                        I actually had this happen with someone I know, though I never was able to see him in person to see the wound/scar.

                        And you guys, it may not be him. Maybe someone is blaming him for shooting them. You never know. EDIT: Wait, I misread. Well, it could be his friend and he wouldn't believe him even if his friend had proof.

                        I'd go with what GL said. Go detective and find where they were at what time, ask specific details about his story and also ask people who know him and wouldn't be biased to lie.

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                          Posted 01 August 2009 - 03:36 PM

                          View PostFury, on Jul 31 2009, 06:17 PM, said:

                          Say some one is talking to some one else via something like phone or internet and one guy says he has a serious, life-threatning injury that would leave a scar or some other form of indication that proves his story actually happend, but dosen't. He tells the other guy this to see how he reacts.

                          Later, they're gonna meet or hangout and when they do, GuyA(the one who got hurt)dosen't have a scar to show what happend. The only thing he has is his word. When GuyB sees this, he will know at once that his friend was lying.

                          My question is this, what would you guys think if GuyA gave himself an injury that would give him a scar in conjunction with his story? For example, GuyA's story says he got shot in his right hand so naturally he would have a hole in his hand. But of course he was lying. So before he meets GuyB, he puts a hole in his hand to make it look he actually got shot.

                          Why?

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                            Posted 01 August 2009 - 03:42 PM

                            next time, tell him you got shot in the head~

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                              Posted 01 August 2009 - 03:44 PM

                              I made this topic not based off a personal experience, but because this is an interesting question and I wanted too see what you guys thought about it.

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                                Posted 01 August 2009 - 03:52 PM

                                The basic idea behind what Fury proposed is the degree to which a lie, something that didn't happen, can be accepted on face value. Do you place your trust in how feasible the story is - presented with the 'evidence' to support it - or in the person themselves?

                                I've often asked something similar. What do you call it if Person A tells Person B something that A thinks is the truth - is genuinely convinced of it - even if it actually isn't?

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                                  Posted 01 August 2009 - 04:01 PM

                                  View PostGolden Legacy, on Aug 1 2009, 10:52 PM, said:

                                  What do you call it if Person A tells Person B something that A thinks is the truth - is genuinely convinced of it - even if it actually isn't?


                                  politics?

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                                    Posted 01 August 2009 - 04:03 PM

                                    I was going for the legal ramifications and how it would be classified, but I applaud you, good sir.

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                                      Posted 01 August 2009 - 04:07 PM

                                      actually i think Religion is more accurate

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                                        Posted 01 August 2009 - 04:11 PM

                                        Well, it could even apply to Alchemy. The philosophers and forerunners to modern-day chemists invented many of the same tools, same ideas (i.e. distillation), processes in invoking their experiments that today's scientists use, even if their basic premise was fundamentally wrong.

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                                          Posted 03 August 2009 - 10:57 AM

                                          I agree.

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                                            Posted 03 August 2009 - 11:40 AM

                                            Two people contrdict each other in the description of an event, yet neither are lying. Why? Because both actually believe what they are saying is true, despite that being impossible.

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                                              Posted 03 August 2009 - 01:03 PM

                                              opinion isnt truth >___>

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                                                Posted 03 August 2009 - 03:40 PM

                                                View PostLegolastom, on Aug 3 2009, 06:57 PM, said:

                                                I agree.


                                                I seriously LOL'd at this. I dunno why, I just found it hilarious coming straight after GL's post.

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                                                  Posted 03 August 2009 - 04:55 PM

                                                  So this is a topic about religion and politicis? Two things you DON'T talk about on the internet?

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                                                    Posted 03 August 2009 - 10:25 PM

                                                    Well, this IS a serious topic about a serious question, so it's probably going to seriously be kinda serious.

                                                    Seriously.

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                                                      Posted 04 August 2009 - 01:00 AM

                                                      This seems strangely specific for a hypothetical question. And I don't see how you can take a bullet directly to the hand without any sort of definitive wound. If it were me I'd ask him how that could be possible, unless there are other factors at work.

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                                                        Posted 04 August 2009 - 08:54 AM

                                                        View PostSplit Infinity, on Aug 4 2009, 12:00 AM, said:

                                                        This seems strangely specific for a hypothetical question.

                                                        I said something along these lines, but it was deleted. Curse the staff of this forum.

                                                        If I were you I'd come clean about shooting yourself in the hand.

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                                                          Posted 04 August 2009 - 09:00 AM

                                                          Dont shoot the hand that feeds you is what I always say.


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