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Saturos Or Menardi who is stronger?

#1   goldenlover 

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    Posted 05 August 2004 - 08:34 AM

    i'd say saturos is stronger but what do you guys think

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      Posted 05 August 2004 - 08:36 AM

      Saturos is, literaly. In teh game. But Menardi has healing and such.

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        Posted 05 August 2004 - 09:59 AM

        i think they both have really good attacks, but saturos has more HP than Menardi

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          Posted 05 August 2004 - 12:12 PM

          Physically Saturos is stronger, but Menardi has her trump card during battle...Death Size.

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            Posted 05 August 2004 - 12:13 PM

            Generally, yes, Saturous has the strength and Menardi focuses more on healing. However, her Death Scythe technique (as with Karst in TLA) is deadly...

            Edit: *looks at Forte's post*
            Ahh, I meant Death Size, sorry...

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              Posted 05 August 2004 - 12:22 PM

              Saturos and Menardi are both pretty well balanced. Saturos has powerful offensive psynergies, but he also has some good support ones, too, like Guard and Potent Cure (wait...isn't that an Earth psynergy?). So does Menardi. She's got Fiery Blast, and the ever-powerful, Supernova (too bad she hardly ever uses it), and she can also cast Impact (a Wind psynergy?!) and Wish (Water?!?!). Menardi is also quite fast...

              Plus there are those single strike attacks: Death Size (Death Scythe is much more appropriate a name) and Heat Flash.

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                Posted 05 August 2004 - 02:19 PM

                Saturos has stronger attacks that do more damage and he has more HP. But Mendari has Some healing and Death Size. You can't have one with out the other. Eather one of them on there own would suck.

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                  Posted 07 August 2004 - 05:30 PM

                  Yes, they share a "symbiotic relationship". I think Menardi would last longer on her own, though; even though I favor Saturos more.

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                    Posted 12 August 2004 - 03:18 AM

                    On top of Mercury Lighthouse:
                    Saturos : HP: 1200
                    PP: 160
                    ATK: 113
                    DEF: 35
                    WEAK: water


                    On top of Venus Lighthouse:

                    Saturos: HP: 3000
                    PP: 260
                    ATK: 409
                    DEF: 140 weaknees: water
                    Menardi: HP: 2600
                    PP: 300
                    ATK:389
                    DEF: 134 weakness: water

                    Saturos is stronger.

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                        Posted 12 August 2004 - 03:40 AM

                      how can you even ask this question, menardi is like a sidekick, she just follows saturos, so yep saturos is stronger!

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                        Posted 12 August 2004 - 08:10 AM

                        I don't know they both need each other and I don't think one Controls the other.

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                          Posted 12 August 2004 - 11:50 AM

                          its like Isaac's party one is not stronger than the other without mia u would die everytime without isaac u have no good attacker same with garet and ivan.

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                            Posted 12 August 2004 - 12:25 PM

                            I guess you guys are right,but I do favor Saturos more then Menardi for one simple reason,Saturos is more powerful :blink: (in my oppinion)

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                              Posted 12 August 2004 - 12:46 PM

                              Thats true but when I fight them I Aim all of my attacks a Merindi first and then after she is dead I go after Saturos. this makes him really easy. Just like in other Boss battles I all ways Take out the Weaker Enemey first.

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                                Posted 12 August 2004 - 01:15 PM

                                Saturos is stronger, but Menardi has healing abilities. they make a great team...well, for a pair of video game villians, that is.

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                                  Posted 12 August 2004 - 01:18 PM

                                  so i think this topic is done right...

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                                    Posted 12 August 2004 - 01:19 PM

                                    Basiclly we've all stated our opinions.

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                                        Posted 13 August 2004 - 09:14 AM

                                      i think tht menardi, was made to look like a sidekick ny accident, cus on mercury lighthoues saturos kinda makes her leave with kraden and jenna, i'm not sure, but she felt like a sidekick to me!

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                                        Posted 13 August 2004 - 06:32 PM

                                        Here's a list of the psynergies that Saturos and Menardi possess; this really sways my opinion on who's the strongest of the two (sorry that the post is so long).

                                        Saturos

                                        Cure
                                        Cure Well
                                        Potent Cure
                                        Haunt
                                        Fire
                                        Fireball
                                        Inferno
                                        Volcano
                                        Eruption
                                        Pyroclasm
                                        Guard
                                        Protect
                                        Break

                                        Menardi

                                        Flare
                                        Flare Wall
                                        Flare Storm
                                        Blast
                                        Mad Blast
                                        Fiery Blast
                                        Blast
                                        Nova
                                        Supernova
                                        Wish
                                        Wish Well
                                        Impact
                                        High Impact
                                        Ward
                                        Resist

                                        Saturos may have more HP and higher Attack stats, but Menardi clearly accels with psynergies (seeing as she has more support and offensive ones than Saturos). Plus, she's got Death Size, her trump card (wait...did I already say that?).

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                                          Posted 14 August 2004 - 01:01 PM

                                          I think Menardi, but she cast Death Size and Supernova, but Saturos have more Hp and cast Pyroclasm

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                                            Posted 14 August 2004 - 01:48 PM

                                            Saturous is stronger than Menardi, but Menardi has better defense.

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                                              Posted 14 August 2004 - 02:20 PM

                                              I wonder what class of adepts they are, though. Since they can use psynergies of all, if not, most, of the elements.

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                                                Posted 14 August 2004 - 02:25 PM

                                                You know y dont saturos and menardi go searching for djinn if they know it can give there abilities a major jump y not go after them....

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                                                  Posted 14 August 2004 - 02:28 PM

                                                  I don't think that Saturos or Menardi knew about the djinn; they had scattered after Saturos and Menardi had already left Sol Sanctum.

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                                                    Posted 14 August 2004 - 02:33 PM

                                                    (off topic)ok but if they didn't what about karst and agatio they must have known about the djinn karst even has an attack to drain ur djinn.

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                                                      Posted 14 August 2004 - 05:22 PM

                                                      Thats true but it says there lacking in logic so mabey they can't catch the Djinn

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                                                        Posted 14 August 2004 - 05:25 PM

                                                        Yea but it can't be hard to find a djinn and fight it and then beat it like some djinn have nowhere to run how hard is it for them to just use there pysenergy and gather up the djinn for themselves?

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                                                          Posted 15 August 2004 - 12:56 PM

                                                          If Saturos and Menardi were smart enough to find the djinn, then there wouldn't be enough left for you.

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                                                            Posted 19 August 2004 - 02:31 AM

                                                            im not really sure whos stronger but i think saturos is....but menardi has better psynergy, and can cast wish well.

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                                                              Posted 19 August 2004 - 03:34 AM

                                                              ForteGX, on Aug 15 2004, 02:56 PM, said:

                                                              If Saturos and Menardi were smart enough to find the djinn, then there wouldn't be enough left for you.

                                                              Maybe they did catch alot of djinni and only left you 28... Otherwise, how could a Mars Adept like Menardi know Wish Well? It's a Mercury spell, and you know the djinni that work best with each character are the ones of his element and the ones of the opposite element...

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                                                                Posted 19 August 2004 - 06:01 AM

                                                                There are other ways to change your class (Mysterious Card, etc.). Perhaps they a class-altering item with them.

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                                                                  Posted 29 August 2004 - 01:36 PM

                                                                  Yay Saturos. I had a hard time beating him.

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                                                                    Posted 29 August 2004 - 10:06 PM

                                                                    really I found them easy whatever The Fusion Dragon was much harder

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                                                                      Posted 29 August 2004 - 10:37 PM

                                                                      that's because you had more time to level up because the second game was longer yes

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                                                                        Posted 29 August 2004 - 11:01 PM

                                                                        Longer, more fun. You get to waste your time just playing it. (Not saying it in a bad way)

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                                                                          Posted 30 August 2004 - 12:37 AM

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                                                                          You know y dont saturos and menardi go searching for djinn if they know it can give there abilities a major jump y not go after them....
                                                                          In Isaacs house, go to his room, and look at the book shelf. Isaac will read a book that tells him Adepts need to do good, not evil. If Saturos and Menardi tried to catch Djinn, I bet the Drinn would run away, not wanting to serve evil people. :unsure:

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                                                                          Maybe they did catch alot of djinni and only left you 28... Otherwise, how could a Mars Adept like Menardi know Wish Well? It's a Mercury spell, and you know the djinni that work best with each character are the ones of his element and the ones of the opposite element...
                                                                          In the Altin mines, when you beat the first statue, you get a Frost Jewel that allows anyone in your party to use Frost. Maybe Menardi has something like that. ;)

                                                                          Anyhoo, Saturos is kewl, but they're easy. I always make Garet use Flash over and over when battlin the pair of 'em because he isn't much help in that battle. :mellow:

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                                                                            Posted 30 August 2004 - 09:11 AM

                                                                            No I was talking about the fusion dragon from the first game

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                                                                              Posted 30 August 2004 - 09:17 AM

                                                                              Yo I have a question Are Saturos and Menardi even human like when they beat on you when you first face them when your kids, after they beat you they nodd to each other then start jumping around the place like they got springs in there shoes. I don't think any human in that game could do that. A mattter of fact all the people in Prox look like there not human well atleast the warriors look like there not human. So what are they mutants or like some race of super elves??

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                                                                                Posted 30 August 2004 - 09:25 AM

                                                                                They are a super clan. And I noticed that thing at the start when they jump around like springs to mabey it's some kind of pynergey

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                                                                                  Posted 30 August 2004 - 09:33 AM

                                                                                  So tell me whats with the faces the look like elves and only the warriors have that wierd look on there faces. The people that walk around dont look like freaks but I think they do have pointy ears hmmm.

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                                                                                    Posted 30 August 2004 - 09:37 AM

                                                                                    The who clan is that way it is passed down from generation to generation. About the warriors mabey that are meaner from years of fighting

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                                                                                      Posted 30 August 2004 - 09:48 AM

                                                                                      maybe its just another form of evolution, like that werewolf said, possibly after years of bitter cold, isn't this off the topic or summink???(shrugs)

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                                                                                        Posted 30 August 2004 - 09:57 AM

                                                                                        Teblor Tribe, on Aug 30 2004, 11:37 AM, said:

                                                                                        The who clan is that way it is passed down from generation to generation. About the warriors mabey that are meaner from years of fighting

                                                                                        Fighting? Who would they want to fight they never got to leave Prox. Only Saturos and Menardi left with some warriors but they all got killed except for "Sat" and "Men" but that might be a reason maybe they fought each other to train themselves. I don't think this is off topic I am talking about Saturos an Menardi which the topic is about right?

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                                                                                          Posted 30 August 2004 - 10:20 AM

                                                                                          It is sort off because the topic is about who is stronger, but what the hell, I really don't give a s*** ;)

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                                                                                            Posted 30 August 2004 - 02:17 PM

                                                                                            Meh well I see what you mean but I just wanted to make this topic alittle more interesting since everyone knows the answer to this question.

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                                                                                              Posted 28 September 2004 - 06:55 AM

                                                                                              Teblor Tribe, on Aug 12 2004, 02:46 PM, said:

                                                                                              Thats true but when I fight them I Aim all of my attacks a Merindi first and then after she is dead I go after Saturos. this makes him really easy. Just like in other Boss battles I all ways Take out the Weaker Enemey first.



                                                                                              that's a waste...you should focus on the stronger one...

                                                                                              well think of it like this...you focus on the stronger one...then you use summons that are focused on the stronger one...the weaker ones will usually die in the process...

                                                                                              but with menardi...she isnt your average weaker monster...so she will probably not die by the time saturos dies...but anyway she will the next turn...

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                                                                                              offtopic: The only true easy way to kill deadbeard is to have all of the djinn

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                                                                                                Posted 28 September 2004 - 07:45 AM

                                                                                                Killing Menardi first is better since she can heal.

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                                                                                                  Posted 28 September 2004 - 07:50 AM

                                                                                                  Nino, on Sep 28 2004, 09:45 AM, said:

                                                                                                  Killing Menardi first is better since she can heal.



                                                                                                  that's why you use that seal djinn on Menardi

                                                                                                  saturos will be dead before it wears off

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                                                                                                    Posted 28 September 2004 - 08:04 AM

                                                                                                    Mhm.

                                                                                                    Everyone has different tactics.

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                                                                                                      Posted 28 September 2004 - 08:22 AM

                                                                                                      The problem with sealing is that it doesn't always work, also menardi has the death sycthe...

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                                                                                                        Posted 28 September 2004 - 08:27 AM

                                                                                                        Menardi can heal, Menardi uses Death Scythe, Menardi is plain irritating


                                                                                                        There are many reasons.

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                                                                                                          Posted 28 September 2004 - 02:36 PM

                                                                                                          I must agree, Menardi is just a pain in the butt. But Death Scythe and her other attacks work so rarely that I always kill Saturos the first, though he's the stronger one.

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                                                                                                            Posted 28 September 2004 - 06:44 PM

                                                                                                            When I battle bosses I pick the weak ones of one at a time. That make the main bad guy really weak

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                                                                                                              Posted 29 September 2004 - 07:02 PM

                                                                                                              Menardi is more well balanced than Saturos; her only flaws are her poor defensive and offensive skills.

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                                                                                                                Posted 07 October 2004 - 08:20 PM

                                                                                                                ;) Menardi is cooler, but Saturos still pounds me into the dust every time I go against him... I hate that...

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                                                                                                                  Posted 07 October 2004 - 08:22 PM

                                                                                                                  <.< Sometimes I think Saturos is...er...weird.

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                                                                                                                    Posted 09 October 2004 - 01:21 PM

                                                                                                                    I am annoyed by these dumb people menardi has more health but satauros does powerful moves like pyroclasm and stuff why menardi does supernova fiery blast wish and death seize so ha menardi is tougher because she always dies last for me and i always go for menardi with djins and stuf and summons and stuff.

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                                                                                                                    Posted 09 October 2004 - 04:10 PM

                                                                                                                    Physically, Saturos. However Menardi can get 1 hit kills with death size. They're both pretty pathetic alone though.

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                                                                                                                      Posted 09 October 2004 - 05:48 PM

                                                                                                                      That's the reason why they're together. (Karst is almost the same as Menardi too. Considering they're sisters and all)

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                                                                                                                        Posted 10 October 2004 - 09:34 PM

                                                                                                                        True And Angtigo is like Saturnos. About the same stregth not exacttly the same attacks but close enough

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                                                                                                                          Posted 17 October 2004 - 11:28 AM

                                                                                                                          Well, Agatio's more of a brute than Saturos. Saturos can use protective spells, too, whereas Agatio can only use physical force (except for Cage, which has a stunning side effect).

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                                                                                                                            Posted 20 October 2004 - 06:58 PM

                                                                                                                            Saturos is stronger. But Menardi can heal and she has Death Size, so they can both be annoying sometimes.

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                                                                                                                              Posted 21 October 2004 - 05:21 PM

                                                                                                                              they are both good.

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                                                                                                                                Posted 25 October 2004 - 08:40 AM

                                                                                                                                No! Saturos is better :P He can use Potent Cure too B) :P :!:

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                                                                                                                                ForteGX, on Oct 17 2004, 08:28 PM, said:

                                                                                                                                Well, Agatio's more of a brute than Saturos.  Saturos can use protective spells, too, whereas Agatio can only use physical force (except for Cage, which has a stunning side effect).

                                                                                                                                Yeah I think Agatio is FAR more powerfuller than Saturos.
                                                                                                                                He's more of the slow side, but he can use Rising Dragon! And Saturos can't... Butt Saturos is faster than Agatio, knows Potent Cure and is far away from being weak! So I think in a battle between Saturos and Agatio... Saturos wins!

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                                                                                                                                On top of Mercury Lighthouse:
                                                                                                                                Saturos : HP: 1200
                                                                                                                                              PP: 160
                                                                                                                                              ATK: 113
                                                                                                                                              DEF: 35
                                                                                                                                              WEAK: water
                                                                                                                                On top of Venus Lighthouse:
                                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                Saturos: HP: 3000
                                                                                                                                            PP: 260
                                                                                                                                            ATK: 409
                                                                                                                                            DEF: 140    weaknees: water
                                                                                                                                Menardi: HP: 2600
                                                                                                                                            PP: 300
                                                                                                                                            ATK:389
                                                                                                                                            DEF: 134    weakness:  water

                                                                                                                                Saturos is stronger.

                                                                                                                                Yo how did you got those stats? I want to know!!!

                                                                                                                                (I am very sorry for double posting... And even now, triple posting... I didn't knew about the Edit button ^_^ )

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                                                                                                                                  Posted 27 October 2004 - 04:39 PM

                                                                                                                                  i reckon saturos is the stronger out of the two but i reckon agaito and karst are the stronger pair

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                                                                                                                                    Posted 01 November 2004 - 11:32 AM

                                                                                                                                    Why Agatio and Karst? I think Saturos and Menardi because Menardi is stronger than Karst and Saturos can use Break, Potent Cure and Protect! So he also knows suport moves! I don't understand why Saturos didn't travel with Agatio... They would be perfect together.

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                                                                                                                                      Posted 03 November 2004 - 12:33 AM

                                                                                                                                      cos they seem like more brutal characters, i'm talking more of their personalitey then their strangth, also agaito looks more tanked then saturos

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                                                                                                                                        Posted 03 November 2004 - 01:05 AM

                                                                                                                                        Yeah I admit that Karts and Agatio are ore brutes in person than Saturos and Menardi. Karts is VERY quick angered... Maybe it's because of her sister.

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                                                                                                                                            Posted 03 November 2004 - 04:12 PM

                                                                                                                                          Ok then with all of this convincing i change my mind.
                                                                                                                                          I agree that saturous is stronger.

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                                                                                                                                            Posted 04 November 2004 - 01:31 AM

                                                                                                                                            i liked aturos and merandi more cos they seemed more ruthless and more evil looking

                                                                                                                                            but still reakcon karst and agaito are stronger

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                                                                                                                                              Posted 22 November 2004 - 08:32 PM

                                                                                                                                              I think Menardi is more powerful because of the SUPER annoying Death Scythe. That attack killed Ivan more than once when I battled their squad.

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                                                                                                                                                Posted 15 December 2004 - 01:26 PM

                                                                                                                                                i would have to say saturous is stronger then menardi

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                                                                                                                                                  Posted 15 December 2004 - 01:27 PM

                                                                                                                                                  i would have to say that saturous is stronger then menardi

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                                                                                                                                                    Posted 19 December 2004 - 10:40 PM

                                                                                                                                                    Actually, Menardi and Karst both have Death Scythe. (I will refer that move to that wording, so don't flame at me, okay?)

                                                                                                                                                    To me, healing and casting strong spells is a plus in my book, and same with inflicting status ailments. I may not be much of a physical attacker, but you do realize that Agatio and Karst are faced after Saturos and Menardi, realistically speaking. That give them more time to become more powerful than their predicessors. They also use more, if not all, fire based psynergies. However, if you take out Karst, Agatio is practically useless without her healing.

                                                                                                                                                    I believe that neither is stronger than the other, in terms of groups encountered. In terms of Saturos and Menardi, I know I say Menardi is the winner in fighting with psynergy, whereas Saturos is better in physical combat.

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                                                                                                                                                      Posted 20 December 2004 - 07:30 PM

                                                                                                                                                      menardi and karst are weaker than satros and agito because they are more of psynergy casting people.

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                                                                                                                                                        Posted 23 December 2004 - 10:23 AM

                                                                                                                                                        I feel that Saturous is stronger, but Menardi has more impressive psynergy.

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                                                                                                                                                          Posted 26 December 2004 - 09:10 PM

                                                                                                                                                          ya thats what i said....
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                                                                                                                                                            Posted 07 January 2005 - 04:33 PM

                                                                                                                                                            Saturos: Power
                                                                                                                                                            Menardi: Magic

                                                                                                                                                            As simple as this. NOTE: Menardi is very cute for a proxian. ;)


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