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Is There Any One Who Has Sen These Two Sentences? probably in Champa

#1   huimi 

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    Posted 13 November 2005 - 12:46 AM

    The topic should be "Is there anyone who has ever seen these two sentences?".
    I'm really sorry for the mistake i make!

    The two sentences are below:

    "It reads: Search by the water's edge where the letter had fallen."
    "It reads: Two Steps north of the middle grave where the letter had fallen."

    Sound like tips,but i just can't find them.

    The only thing i know is they might most possibly in Champa.

    So is there any one who can tell me where can i find them and what they means?

    I'm sorry for my poor English.I'm a Chinese.

    Thank you!

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      Posted 13 November 2005 - 08:44 AM

      Could be tips, or poor translation. There are many examples of that in the game, like "thanks muchly"

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        Posted 13 November 2005 - 03:36 PM

        Or "Thank You Much." In such a big game, you must expect at least some translation errors.

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          Posted 14 November 2005 - 01:17 AM

          Maybe my poor expression make you both mistake.
          I'm so sorry.

          I mean my friend and i wanna do localization to this game.
          (I don't know if i said it right, but i think you will understand.)

          We have done a lot, and now we're translating.
          I found the two sentences in the txt, but i can't find them in the game.
          From the location of these two sentences in the txt,
          I guess they might be found in Champa or somewhere nearby.
          But until now i still cannot find them, then i thought maybe someone here has seen them before.
          So...

          So i wanna ask if anyone knows where they are.
          I mean the two sentences.

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            Posted 14 November 2005 - 02:20 PM

            Allright I get it now. I make a point of trying to talk to everyone in the areas that I visit, and I haven't seen anyone say that in Champa or anywhere else. Maybe it apears in a debug room or something weird like that...

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              Posted 14 November 2005 - 06:40 PM

              Is this in GS2, because it sounds like it would be in Xian in GS1.

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                Posted 15 November 2005 - 01:56 AM

                View PostSea_of_Time, on Nov 15 2005, 08:40 AM, said:

                Is this in GS2, because it sounds like it would be in Xian in GS1.

                Yes, this sure is in GS2.
                There is no Champa in GS1, right?

                And I think they should appear when we check something.
                I still don't know what and where they are.

                Searching......

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                  Posted 15 November 2005 - 03:29 PM

                  I'm sorry if it's in GS2, I have no idea what you're talking about. Maybe someone else can help you but that's a tough question.

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                    Posted 15 November 2005 - 04:11 PM

                    View PostSea_of_Time, on Nov 16 2005, 05:29 AM, said:

                    I'm sorry if it's in GS2, I have no idea what you're talking about. Maybe someone else can help you but that's a tough question.

                    I know...
                    Thank you all the same.

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                      Posted 15 November 2005 - 05:51 PM

                      I think I know what you're trying to say.

                      So, you're saying that you're in a game-module editing program like RPG Maker, right? And you're looking at the dialogue for GS2. And so there are these 2 sentences that you don't think were ever actually in the game.

                      Well, I don't recall those 2 sentences of dialogue ever being in the game. Check the GS2 guide on Golden Sun Syndicate's home page. It's pretty extensive and would go over whatever quest these sentences would have applied to.

                      Also note that sometimes, scripts and dialogue created for a module never get used in production, but are still saved and imported with the game.

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                        Posted 16 November 2005 - 12:16 AM

                        View PostWind Dude, on Nov 16 2005, 07:51 AM, said:

                        I think I know what you're trying to say.

                        So, you're saying that you're in a game-module editing program like RPG Maker, right? And you're looking at the dialogue for GS2. And so there are these 2 sentences that you don't think were ever actually in the game.

                        Well, I don't recall those 2 sentences of dialogue ever being in the game. Check the GS2 guide on Golden Sun Syndicate's home page. It's pretty extensive and would go over whatever quest these sentences would have applied to.

                        Also note that sometimes, scripts and dialogue created for a module never get used in production, but are still saved and imported with the game.


                        Thank you.
                        You sure get it.
                        So maybe I should just ignore them.
                        Thank you.
                        Thank all of you!

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                          Posted 16 November 2005 - 03:26 PM

                          Yeah, he's got it. Just development stuff that they never took out. Like that picture of Sheba's mother.

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                            Posted 16 November 2005 - 07:57 PM

                            View PostPlatinum Sun, on Nov 17 2005, 05:26 AM, said:

                            Yeah, he's got it. Just development stuff that they never took out. Like that picture of Sheba's mother.

                            The picture of Sheba's mother?
                            It does not exist in my memory. = =
                            Can you show me the picture?

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                              Posted 17 November 2005 - 02:15 PM

                              Here it is:
                              Attached Image: sheba.gif
                              There's a young felix icon too, it might've been used, but I doubt it.
                              Attached Image: Young_Felix.gif

                              I think that these were ripped directly from the game code just like your mysterious sentences. Camelot didn't bother to fully extract all the development data from the game's ROM, there was extra space and it wasn't writable so it couldn't serve any other purpose. This type of idle memory is what creates a lot of glitches when you directly read or alter the game code. Thats what makes glitches like your sentences or my phantom sprites, as well as debug rooms etc.

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                                Posted 17 November 2005 - 11:35 PM

                                Maybe the young Felix icon is for GS1 and Camelot didn't delete it when making the GS2.
                                Anyway, thank you for the icons.

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                                  Posted 10 March 2006 - 04:14 AM

                                  I know that you can use reveal in champa somewhere, and it reveals a chest containing the vulcan axe ( I think). Not relly sure, but if it's supposed to be in champa, then that might be it.

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                                    Posted 27 March 2006 - 01:35 AM

                                    Based off the words in the sentences, my first inclination was the song in Yallam.

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