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Airport Security How much worse can it get?

#1   Sea of Time 

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    Posted 12 August 2006 - 03:34 PM

    For almost five years now, we've been dealing with increased airport security around the world due to the events of 9/11.

    It only got worse after an attempted shoe bomber almost exploded a plane, causing security to increase. Now, after the events in London, no liquids and gels will be allowed on flights.

    My question is, how much worse can this get? My opinion is that it will eventually come to the fact that no carry-on luggage will be allowed on flights.

    But what do you think?

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      Posted 12 August 2006 - 03:50 PM

      It's not an inconcievable possibility. Airline security takes the approach of curing the disease by killing the patient. One shoe bomber, eveyone gets a shoe inspection. One liquid bomber, no more liquids. (Where the heck is the bra bomber when you need her?!)

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        Posted 12 August 2006 - 05:09 PM

        There are business essentials like laptops and cell phones that may also be banned because those inconspicuous items can be used to set bombs off. There really is no end to the technology terrorists can use, and it will affect how we fly in the future.

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          Posted 12 August 2006 - 07:53 PM

          Ah, the perils of reactionary security measures. You can't be one step ahead of the bad guys when your gameplan is based on their gameplan.

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            Posted 12 August 2006 - 08:43 PM

            Now, you can't even bring liquids on the plane.
            It really has gotten alot worse.

            I agree with PS there though, it's really hard to prevent it, but sometimes they are careless.

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              Posted 12 August 2006 - 09:01 PM

              If there's rain that you want to keep out, you'll have to put up an umbrella. But of coruse, the rain will always be caught in the wind and blow in at a different angle each time. Therefore, you have to keep covering it up until you enclose yourself in a dome where no rain and no breeze can get to you. Same with this situation. Yeah, it is probably gonna lead to total banning of all carry-ons.

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                Posted 12 August 2006 - 09:56 PM

                Such wonderful wisdom from MD.

                I was traveling by plane when there was terrorist scare in Atlanta airport. No one could board until the security guards patted us down... and when I say patted down, I mean they really went all out. It was... uncomfortable to say the least. :P

                It turned out that the entire threat was left from an unattended bag, a child's mind you.


                I'd imagine since they have caught (supposedly) an actual terror plot, banning liquids on board is only the first step.

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                  Posted 13 August 2006 - 11:43 AM

                  Airline security is getting really stupid.

                  Last year, a couple months before our GCSE exams, my friend Nic went on holiday to Austria. Because it was so close to our exams, she took some Maths revision stuff with her, including her calculator. What did the airport security do?
                  Took her calculator away, and actually took it to pieces to "check for anything suspicious".

                  For God's sake! This was a skinny, short, British sixteen year old girl who was just taking a calculator on holiday to Austria, but nooo, they have to take her calculator apart because ONGZZ SHE MUST BE BIN LADEN IN DISGUISE.

                  And even THEN they bloody confiscated it. xD

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                    Posted 13 August 2006 - 11:52 AM

                    Airline secruty is NOT stupid. If they were stupid, we would have many more people dead because of the the terrorists. Oh, and I am sure that friend of yours will be hapier with a gone calculator then have a great chance of hijackers on the plane because the airline security wasn't too catious.

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                      Posted 13 August 2006 - 01:52 PM

                      There's not much discussion to it really. You have to stop the offenders before you can stop putting up security.

                      It'll eventually get to the point where you have to get on the plane naked. I mean, you could kill someone with a shirt if you wanted to. :)

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                        Posted 13 August 2006 - 02:12 PM

                        lol

                        Unless you're a noob, I'm sure you would rather not carry a carry-on then die

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                          Posted 13 August 2006 - 02:29 PM

                          Well, they're letting a few liquids on planes now, but no more than four ounces a person.

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                            Posted 13 August 2006 - 03:50 PM

                            I don't see much logic in that. Four ounces of liquid explosives could be enough to do some damage, and who only has four ounces to bring on a plane anyway?

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                              Posted 13 August 2006 - 03:51 PM

                              The only liquid aloud on is for babies. But all your items that would be in your carryon have to go in a plastic bag.

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                                Posted 13 August 2006 - 03:56 PM

                                They also allow necessary medications as long as they're in clear plastic bags.

                                ...No wonder things are backed up.

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                                  Posted 13 August 2006 - 04:00 PM

                                  Oh also, about the medication, it has to be a prescciption to your name.

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                                    Posted 13 August 2006 - 04:03 PM

                                    I can't believe the pictures that are coming out of airports around the world. In L.A., there was a lineup at security that went into the freakin' parking lot!

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                                      Posted 13 August 2006 - 04:04 PM

                                      Where did you find these pictures? I wanna see them.

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                                        Posted 13 August 2006 - 04:05 PM

                                        I believe they were on TV, off of CNN.com. I can try to find them if you want...

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                                          Posted 13 August 2006 - 04:07 PM

                                          Aiport Security can suck though. You know, those people that steal stuf outa your suitcase, maybe that isn't security, but those dam people that work there suck.

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                                            Posted 13 August 2006 - 04:14 PM

                                            As for the pictures, it appears they're 'old news' now and have been taken off the site (at least what I can see). There was one picture with three hour lines stretching into the parking garage, though. I saw it on CNN.

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                                              Posted 18 August 2006 - 07:48 AM

                                              The security at my airport isn't all that bad, though I haven't tried flying in the last couple weeks. It may get to the point where there are no carry ons, but I think it will lapse back down to slightly above normal levels until something triggers them to jack it up again. But it is pretty necassary, though sometimes its a little extreme. My mom got one of those so called random full body checks 3 times.

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                                                Posted 18 August 2006 - 11:27 AM

                                                View PostZxor, on Aug 13 2006, 06:52 PM, said:

                                                Airline secruty is NOT stupid. If they were stupid, we would have many more people dead because of the the terrorists. Oh, and I am sure that friend of yours will be hapier with a gone calculator then have a great chance of hijackers on the plane because the airline security wasn't too catious.


                                                It's not stupid?

                                                Yeah, that's why a few days ago a plane on it's way to Washington was brought down for an emergancy landing flanked by two fighter planes because a 60 year old woman had hand-cream.

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                                                  Posted 19 August 2006 - 09:19 AM

                                                  I took a flight to Sweden the day after it all happened. Sure, it wasn't fun not having anything but a magazine to read on the plane, but it wasn't too bad.

                                                  And now Ryan Air wants to sue the British Government because the increased security is loosing them money. Jeez.

                                                  I watched an interview with the head of Ryan Air last night and he said that the enchanced security means "The Terrorists have won". No matter how hard I try to understand that, I don't.

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                                                    Posted 19 August 2006 - 09:48 AM

                                                    I agree with the bloke. He said "All the terroists in Iraq or Afganistan with be laughing their heads off at the British", and you know what? They ****ing will be.

                                                    Dad told me yesterday about some woman who was arrested for having nail polish remover. It's idiotic.

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                                                      Posted 19 August 2006 - 11:28 AM

                                                      I agree that some of the measures are a bit silly. For example, you can't buy a book at WHSmiths before security, but you can buy one after.

                                                      But I don't agree that the Terrorists have 'won'. They want to cause Terror, and to be honest, I felt perfectly safe flying, even the day after the big scare.

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                                                        Posted 20 August 2006 - 02:20 AM

                                                        I was glad about the timing of my flight out of the UK. It was a few days before all of this happened so I could still take hand luggage on board. I still felt sorry for the people flying out afterwards, especially those at Heathrow.
                                                        What annoyed me was that I thought the restrictions would affect me on the way back, so I packed my DS in my luggage. Boy was I annoyed when I found I could have had it with me!
                                                        http://uk.news.yahoo.com/20082006/344/terr...air-flight.html
                                                        Something I heard about this morning. I flew with Monarch Airlines yesterday. :)

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                                                          Posted 20 August 2006 - 03:12 AM

                                                          Yeah same here Me111. I couldn't have anything with me on the flight going ('cept the magazine I bought - EDGE *shudder* I much prefer gamesTM), but on the return flight, everything was normal. Clearly the other countries (except US) aren't as worried as us.

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                                                            Posted 20 August 2006 - 08:03 AM

                                                            View PostMe111, on Aug 20 2006, 09:20 AM, said:

                                                            I was glad about the timing of my flight out of the UK. It was a few days before all of this happened so I could still take hand luggage on board. I still felt sorry for the people flying out afterwards, especially those at Heathrow.
                                                            What annoyed me was that I thought the restrictions would affect me on the way back, so I packed my DS in my luggage. Boy was I annoyed when I found I could have had it with me!
                                                            http://uk.news.yahoo.com/20082006/344/terr...air-flight.html
                                                            Something I heard about this morning. I flew with Monarch Airlines yesterday. :)


                                                            I bet the people on the plane only thought they were terrorists because they were from the Middle East.

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                                                              Posted 20 August 2006 - 10:09 AM

                                                              View PostBexie, on Aug 20 2006, 03:03 PM, said:

                                                              I bet the people on the plane only thought they were terrorists because they were from the Middle East.

                                                              It seemed a bit unfair but I can understand why people were worried. When I read the story in the paper, they were 'dressed suspiciously'. Forcing the two guys to stay behind for as long as they did was hardly fair but I guess their appearence meant that they were singled out.

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                                                                Posted 22 August 2006 - 03:31 PM

                                                                View PostMe111, on Aug 20 2006, 05:09 PM, said:

                                                                It seemed a bit unfair but I can understand why people were worried. When I read the story in the paper, they were 'dressed suspiciously'. Forcing the two guys to stay behind for as long as they did was hardly fair but I guess their appearence meant that they were singled out.


                                                                I bet by "dressed suspiciously", the passengers meant they were in Middle Eastern or Muslim attire. >., I hate people like that.

                                                                I mean, when I was still at school, some refugee Muslim kids from Iraq joined our school. And this girl from my class and a load of her mates chased them down the street yelling "Terroists!" and beat them to a pulp.
                                                                Bear in mind that she did this when her own best friend is Muslim and her family hails from Bangladesh.

                                                                A bit different to the plane thing, but still shows how idiotic people have become.

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                                                                  Posted 22 August 2006 - 03:52 PM

                                                                  View PostBexie, on Aug 22 2006, 11:31 PM, said:

                                                                  I bet by "dressed suspiciously", the passengers meant they were in Middle Eastern or Muslim attire. >., I hate people like that.

                                                                  I mean, when I was still at school, some refugee Muslim kids from Iraq joined our school. And this girl from my class and a load of her mates chased them down the street yelling "Terroists!" and beat them to a pulp.
                                                                  Bear in mind that she did this when her own best friend is Muslim and her family hails from Bangladesh.

                                                                  A bit different to the plane thing, but still shows how idiotic people have become.


                                                                  I know this hasn't got a lot to do with the topic at hand, but I have to say: People are disgusting creatures. They're the evilest and lowliest form of life there is.

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                                                                    Posted 23 August 2006 - 01:15 AM

                                                                    View PostBexie, on Aug 22 2006, 10:31 PM, said:

                                                                    I bet by "dressed suspiciously", the passengers meant they were in Middle Eastern or Muslim attire. >., I hate people like that.

                                                                    I'm not trying to support what the people did, but they really were suspicious. They were dressed in thick jumpers and coats. Now you may think this is normal but bare in minf that this occured in Spain where it's pretty hot. Apparently they kept checking their watches as well. I'll admit that I would have been suspicious, though I doubt I would have forced them off the plane.

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                                                                      Posted 24 August 2006 - 06:36 PM

                                                                      You should be able to wear whatever you want, no matter what race you are. But, if I were in the position of the airline security, I see why they had to pull these guys aside. It's just a bad situation to be in.

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                                                                        Posted 25 August 2006 - 01:11 AM

                                                                        It's not a question of race, it's a question of common sense. Would you wear jumpers and coats in such hot weather like you get in Spain? I guess it doesn't matter though as it came to nothing.

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                                                                          Posted 25 August 2006 - 06:45 AM

                                                                          Ohhh god where has the world gone? XD I kinda laughed when I read about that parents have to taste their baby's milk. Soooo farfetched. <_<


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