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Poll: Should the democrats really take office

Should the democrats take office

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#1   Hotshot101 

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    Posted 08 November 2006 - 05:46 AM

    The democrats have almost taken the house and really if they succeed in this then the Republicans may lose the presidency. I know most of you think thats a good thing but if they do the democrats are not going to do anything about the terrorist the US will cease to exist because the terrorists will kill us. All i can say is if your a christian we are living in the end times.

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      Posted 08 November 2006 - 11:36 AM

      What a downer.

      It has been confirmed that the Democrats have taken the house, but as of now, the Senate is still up for grabs.

      There are 2 undecided senate races in Virginia and Montana that are still too close to call. In Virginia, no matter who wins, there will be a recount. The Democrats need both these races to take control of the Senate, and the Republicans need only one to maintain control of the Senate.

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        Posted 08 November 2006 - 04:30 PM

        ya lets just hope the republicans take it. Because if the democracts do then the tax cuts bush made here will be taken out and he may be impeached. Also the terrorist will see this and start to attack us again because the democrats won't fight back

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          Posted 08 November 2006 - 04:45 PM

          The seat in Montana is now decided, and it is Democratic. That leaves only Virginia, where more than 2 million votes have been counted, and only 8,000 votes separate the two candidates. It's incredibly close and it may take weeks to decide.

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            Posted 08 November 2006 - 04:58 PM

            Well if the demos do take the everything people will in 2 years see what happens and get smart during the presidency elections.

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              Posted 09 November 2006 - 01:52 AM

              I was watching this all on CNN. What bugs me, is that they only gave info about the Democrats, and predictions of whether the Democrats would win what or whatever. You don't see that about Republicans on Fox. The thing that got me frustrated the most though, was that they would "predict" which candidate would win before the votes had finished comeing in.

              I just hope the Republicans get the last vote. If they don't, we're almost garunteed to pull out of Iraq. If that happens, the terroists will take control of Iraq, everybody will hate us, and all those soldiers would have died for nothing. The Democrats claim that they'll settle the dispute between the terroists another way, butreally, that's just not possible. The best they could do is ask them nicely to put down their weapons and say "pretty please with sugar on top?" Seriously, the terrorist can't be stopped with politics. They don't even have their own government! If the Democrats get the troops out, we're seriously screwed.

              And Hotshot, I believe too that we are living in the end times. All the predictions in the bible have been fulfilled but two. One of which is a huge war in which all nations turn against Israel, in which Israel will miraculously win. One thing that I've noticed, that was also depicted in the bible, is that more and more people will drift away from god. Take a look at the1900's. Christianity was taught in public schools in the early 1900's. Now, a teacher could be fired for even mentioning god outside of the pledge of aliegence. But the kids in school can still freely talk about it.

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                Posted 09 November 2006 - 10:12 AM

                View PostMr.T, on Nov 9 2006, 04:06 AM, said:

                I was watching this all on CNN. What bugs me, is that they only gave info about the Democrats, and predictions of whether the Democrats would win what or whatever. You don't see that about Republicans on Fox. The thing that got me frustrated the most though, was that they would "predict" which candidate would win before the votes had finished comeing in.


                These predictions are great because you don't have to wait all night for results! And every last one of their predictions was right on Tuesday night. So it shouldn't really frustrate you, it's one of the most helpful things the media can do with the Elections.

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                  Posted 09 November 2006 - 12:18 PM

                  View PostMr.T, on Nov 9 2006, 05:06 AM, said:

                  I was watching this all on CNN. What bugs me, is that they only gave info about the Democrats, and predictions of whether the Democrats would win what or whatever. You don't see that about Republicans on Fox. The thing that got me frustrated the most though, was that they would "predict" which candidate would win before the votes had finished comeing in.



                  I know thats what (As Rush calls them) the drive by media does. They just support the demos. Well hopefull in 2 years everyone will see what happens with the demos and the pres and the other senate seats up for election will be republican.

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                    Posted 09 November 2006 - 04:54 PM

                    Some breaking news, and probably the last of the breaking news. Jim Webb, the Democrat in Virginia is the confirmed winner in that senate seat. His opponent, George Allen has decided not to call a recount because it would cost the taxpayers too much and the result will probably be the same.

                    What does this mean? Hopefully if you've been reading you already know. The Democrats now have control of both the House and the Senate.

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                      Posted 09 November 2006 - 06:44 PM

                      Finally. This is Bush's true challenge now. He has had control of Congress since the start of his presidency, having his powers nearly unchecked.

                      Now the Democrats are in power, and already, we are seeing drastic changes (resignation of Rumsefeld).

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                        Posted 09 November 2006 - 07:32 PM

                        Ya but thats already happend and bush chose a conservative. Now we ain't pulling out of iraq because the pres does military decsisions with consult of the senate (because it would take months to get it all approved). The democrats are now going to raise taxes and we may get terrorist strikes. Be prepared for the worst strike yet

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                          Posted 09 November 2006 - 09:40 PM

                          Howard Dean says that the first thing they will do is raise the minimum wage. The plan seems to be to start with little things that are good for middle class America. Then, they will work towards bigger aspirations. All in all, it looks like a great new 2 years of politics in the U.S.

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                            Posted 09 November 2006 - 09:44 PM

                            Taxes = Bad for the Middle Class

                            Your all too young to have jobs so its easy for you to say raise taxes, get a job and watch half your paycheck go away without ever seeing it.

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                              Posted 10 November 2006 - 01:14 AM

                              Can someone explain why halfway through the Presidents term there is some Election thing where a truckload of power is removed from him? Obviously this is bad enough for his minister of Defence to resign so what the hell is going on?

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                                Posted 10 November 2006 - 04:27 AM

                                View PostpHantOm, on Nov 9 2006, 09:58 PM, said:

                                Taxes = Bad for the Middle Class

                                Your all too young to have jobs so its easy for you to say raise taxes, get a job and watch half your paycheck go away without ever seeing it.

                                It's sad how few people realise how bad it is.

                                Right now, with only a 7% intrest rate on houses, you'll end up paying $500,000 dollars for a $150,000 dollar home. Why? Because it'll take you 35 years to pay off a house like that even with a yearly income of $80,000, which is pretty good. Now picture this with raised taxes. Let's say they go up to 10%, or even 13%. At that rate, you're paying $19500 dollars in interest, and only $500 on your actual house, unless you can manage to spend more than $20,000 on you loan a year.

                                You see, even with raised minimum wages, which aren't likely to be raised by more than a few dollars tops, you're just getting the short end of the stick. What the Democrats are doing won't help anyone.

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                                  Posted 10 November 2006 - 07:17 AM

                                  I think this was inevitable due to how badly the Iraq war was going. That said, i think its stupid to elect a party based on wanting to express to the current party that you dislike a war they're doing.

                                  I agree with Watch, its a stupid time to have an election like this.

                                  However, i think this is a good thing as it means there will be more debate and such in the White House as the democrats are much better represented now. Hopefully they'll also launch an inquisition on the war and we can find out what really happened...although probably not.

                                  For those who are preaching the end of the world, can we be realistic about this? Hopefully the democrats will make the world safer by negotiating with the freaking terrorists, leaving the middle east, and stopping them blowing all our families up instead of enraging them further - you guys must see that constantly attacking them just annoys them more and infact creates more of them. Muslims around the world are being changed from passive sympathisers to fervent fundamentalists cos they disagree with Republican policy - Hopefully the Muslim world will sit back for a bit and see if the Democrats improve the situation like the rest of the world is praying to God that they'll do.

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                                    Posted 10 November 2006 - 07:23 AM

                                    Negotiating? Are you serious? They're terrorists who are willing to DIE for their cause. There isn't anything to negotiate.
                                    That's what the Democrats think. They think that if they ask nicely and wave their cash and jewlery around that mabey the terrorists would stop. Surely that's better than killing them, right? I mean, killing someone who's willing to die to kill you is just too inhumane! :)

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                                      Posted 10 November 2006 - 07:30 AM

                                      You know the terrorists have a reason for attacking you right? You do know that? Therefore there IS something to negotiate. Or at least there was. If Bush and his henchmen had just left the Middle East and stopped paying corrupt governments western money for oil, we wouldnt have anti-western terrorists.

                                      Now though, because of your foreign policy, you've turned it into exactly what Bin Laden wanted - the muslim world feels threatened and now wants to wipe us off earth. They didnt before now. They honestly didnt! Bin Laden attacked the US cos you were interfering in Saudi Affairs, not cos he wants to bring down the West - how the hell could he possibly, in his wildest dreams, have brought down the west? But then the US did something that he must enjoy thinking about to this day - you made the entire muslim world hate you.

                                      Hopefully the democrats will work on building bridges rather than burning them.

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                                        Posted 10 November 2006 - 07:37 AM

                                        *sigh* Terrorists have always wanted to blow us off the map. Muslim ones too. It's not like they just suddenly sprang up out of no where. They've attacked us because we do not believe in their religion. That's what it's always been about. They've always thought we were a threat to their religion just because we did not follow it. And so, they preced to bomb us and cause as much damage as possible. Sure, more muslims may be becomeing radicalists these days, and it may be because we're in their territory, but it's always been about the same thing. Their religion.

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                                          Posted 10 November 2006 - 08:40 AM

                                          Toasty mabye i can explain why better. See terrorists are jihadists (Jihad means holy war). The Islamic religion was made that the muslims would purge the world by destroying everyone that would not bow to their god. These terrorist are still trying to do that in a sense. So they won't negotiate they will continue to believe that and won't budge. Thats why we are fighting them and Thats why they attack us. The demo's are a bunch of wimps because (as Toasty said ) they think they can just talk things out. And as i said before talking things out is prefered, but it doesn't always work so we have to fight, because we can't ignore it either. It took awhile for the demo's in the world wars to figure that out.

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                                            Posted 10 November 2006 - 06:16 PM

                                            You people have no concept of Middle Eastern history. Look, im not gonna say im right cos its all down to opinion at this point, no one really knows exactly what went on, but i implore you, read the history of the Middle East in the 20th Century and try to gain some idea of what im talking about.

                                            The majority of the worlds Muslims live in Indonesia and no terrorists have ever been reported to come from there - that means its only muslims in the Arab world...now, is it just me, or does that not work in your theory of "Muslims wants to change our religion" Also, by majority, i mean about 70% of the entire muslim population of the world live in Indonesia. Religion has become the reason they attack you now, but it wasnt at the start or ALL muslims from ALL over the world would do so. The Democrats, im assuming, and hoping, have the foresight to see we are not in a Holy War just yet.

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                                              Posted 10 November 2006 - 09:01 PM

                                              Dude who cares where they live. Besides Some Islamics have rid themselves of the Jidhad though are terrorists or Islamic extreamists have not. Believe those muslims will not negotiate its not in their nature. They follow everything in the Islamic religion. This makes them very brutal. I read that if someone said something bad about the Islamic religion the nearest believer was suppose to kill him. I am just stressing that the democrats can't talk themselves out of this. The democrats that led us through the World Wars realized Hitler would not Negotiate. Talking is not always going to work. I know it is always easy and may work, but it doesn't always work. Mabye if you see it that way you will see why we fight.


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