[Caael]

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/...ticle841077.ece

Discuss

[Laharl]

..................it's The Sun

if you believe the crap they print, you should be executed.

anyway for the record i'm strongly against capital punishment, etting them rot away in prison for the remainder of their life will make them repent a lot more than death

[Caael]

The only reason I made this is because we covered it in RE class today. Note the question mark in the title, I dont neccessarily believe it will be brought back, but I agree with the death sentance.

[Folcon]

So do I. My main reason I don't like letting them rot in prison is, who pays for their food, entertainment, and in many cases, college degrees they can earn? Answer, WE do. The more people with life sentinces, the more of our money that gets sucked away to keep them alive, which means higher taxes. I say just put the ****ers down.

[Caael]

I strongly believe in the 'eye for an eye' thing, and a life sentance rarely actually means they are put in prison until they are dead. Life usually means 25 years, but if with good behaviour, they get out in around 14. Thats not really life, is it.

[TheEnglishman]

laharl the slayer, on Feb 27 2008, 05:01 PM, said:

..................it's The Sun

if you believe the crap they print, you should be executed.

anyway for the record i'm strongly against capital punishment, etting them rot away in prison for the remainder of their life will make them repent a lot more than death

I was gonna say that. The Sun aren't exactly known for high quality.
As for the idea of capital punishment, I disagree with it. I feel it's better for them to do their time, living with the guilt rather than get out easily.

[Laharl]

escout, on Feb 27 2008, 05:15 PM, said:

So do I. My main reason I don't like letting them rot in prison is, who pays for their food, entertainment, and in many cases, college degrees they can earn?

note i said rot in prison, none of the pampering they get now, lock em in a cell and leave them to die with the minimal amount of food etc. to srtay alive

[Drizzy Drake]

Caael, on Feb 27 2008, 12:22 PM, said:

I strongly believe in the 'eye for an eye' thing, and a life sentance rarely actually means they are put in prison until they are dead. Life usually means 25 years, but if with good behaviour, they get out in around 14. Thats not really life, is it.

Well when peopel get life sentences, you are right, it is only 25 years, but life without parole, mneans that they WILL spend their whole life in jail, unless they break out.

[Saturos S.]

Meh, some people commit a murder in a rage or fury. If someone genuinely has remorse for what he's done, then the punishment should show so mercy too. The murderer will likely accept it anyway.

As for the death sentance, I'm only pro if you don't want that guy back in society and don't want to risk the chance of having him back. Death is an easy way to achieve that.

Life-long is harsher in a lot of ways, but they can do basic work in the jail. Manufacturing basic stuff and such, this way they still have so use for society. They work for free after all (don't give me the tax story, you get some taxes as well, you pay taxes, they will to in a certain sense.)

[Folcon]

I think pedophiles and rapists should get the death penalty. No matter what is done, they will not change.

[TheEnglishman]

I'm not so sure about that. If they show genuine remorse over what they've done, the punishment should recognise that.

[Folcon]

Oh they might show remorse, but many times, as soon as they're out, they attack someone again. Pedophiles and raipists are often beyond help. Besides, with that conviction on their record, the chances of getting a reputable job are next to none, thus, they are likely to turn to crime. I say just kill the *******s.

[Split Infinity]

Paedophiles and rapists are just normal people who made a big mistake. Sure, some people may never change, but you can't just make that assumption for everyone who commits a particular crime and have them shot for it. That's discriminatory.

[Ironsight]

laharl the slayer, on Feb 27 2008, 09:48 AM, said:

note i said rot in prison, none of the pampering they get now, lock em in a cell and leave them to die with the minimal amount of food etc. to srtay alive

Unfortunatly, then we get human rights idiots who say its cruel to do something like that. Thats how the inmates are able to get 4 square meals a day and a college degree in jail. Come on, its JAIL, its SUPPOSED to suck ass being there.

[Drizzy Drake]

Actually, they get three meals a day, and they are preatty ****ty. But abotu the college stuff, the jails are not allowed to deny them an education.

Sure, it is supossed to be ****ty, but if they have nothing to do, they are more likely to get in fights in jail.

Plus, if they are sdoing, say, 10 years, and they get a college degree, then when they get out, they may be able to give back to society.

[Ironsight]

Unless they plan on doing more crime when they get out...

[Caael]

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I think pedophiles and rapists should get the death penalty. No matter what is done, they will not change.

Paedophillia isn't really a crime. Sure, its sick and not natural, but you can kill somebody because of their orientation, you might as well put all the gays to death. Killing somebody because they love the kiddies is worse than the person themself. It's not wrong in their eyes. Say a gay comes up to you and says hes gonna kill you for being straight, would you think that justified?

But if they are genuine kiddy fiddlers who kidnap people thats punishable, but not by death.

[Drizzy Drake]

It is not really their fault that they are attracted to kids, same way it's not straight people's fault they are attraced to people of the opesite sex.

Sure, rape of any age, should be punished, but if they don't do anything illegal, then people shouldn't be all up in arms about it.

[Folcon]

I guess I see pedophile and child molester/raipest as the same thing.

[Drizzy Drake]

Isn't a pedophile somebody who is attracted to children, but doesn't do anything? Or is a pedophile somebdoy who has sex(willing from both parties) with children?

[Caael]

A paedophile is somebody who is attracted to children, but im guessing different pedos would like different genders lol.

[Drizzy Drake]

Alright. Yes, I don't think a pedo should really be ostrisized from society. It is NOT their fault they are attracted to children. If so, EVERYBODY on this planet should be ostrized, seeing as it's not straight people's fault they are straight, and sam with gays/lesbians.

If, however a pedo acted on said attractions, there should be consiquences.

[Split Infinity]

It's fine to like children, but if you engage in any sort of erotic act with them against their parents' will , that's illegal.