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Nintendo in Controversy? Yes, this is in the right section...

#1   TheEnglishman 

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    Posted 16 May 2008 - 03:18 PM

    Looks like whiter-than-white Nintendo have been involved in contoversy...
    http://uk.gamespot.com/pages/news/show_blo...newstop;title;1
    Ok it's not exactly Hot-Coffee stuff, and it's also from the Daily Mail, who hate games almost as much as Jack Thompson, but it's pretty weird for Nintendo to be suggested as controversial.
    I guess it shows they still have some issues with their software.

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      Posted 16 May 2008 - 03:48 PM

      God, I HATE the Daily Mail. Right wing and 100% tabloid.

      They stir up crap like this all the time.

      With that said, they would have a good point if it wasn't for the fact that I wholeheartedly believe children should come to terms with their weight in order to beat it.

      I read in the papers today that the best way to overcome obesity was to pay the kids not to eat x.x

      Kids that are obese, save those with medical conditions, have only themselves and their parents to blame. I refuse to safeguard their feelings over this, the Daily Mail can get bent.

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        Posted 16 May 2008 - 03:52 PM

        lmao xd

        That's the stupidest thing I've ever read.

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          Posted 16 May 2008 - 04:10 PM

          I'd need to see the kid first, though I have my opinion that it's probably some girl who doesn't want to know the painful truth.
          @Raven: At least you don't get it shoved through your door everyday. I try and convince my parents that it's rubbish but they still get it.

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            Posted 16 May 2008 - 04:14 PM

            Well XD I didnt mean to be so hard on it - Its not to my tastes is all I mean. I know some people think its a perfectly good paper, but I think its too celeb focused and reactionary =/ Then again, i struggle to find decent news reporting anywhere...

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              Posted 16 May 2008 - 07:44 PM

              I'm almost tempted to agree. I'd feel pretty pissed if I was playing my Wii one day and suddenly a message popped up claiming I was obese, regardless of whether I am. The point of a video game is to provide an escape from reality, not impose it upon you.

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                Posted 16 May 2008 - 08:28 PM

                View PostSplit Infinity, on May 16 2008, 07:44 PM, said:

                I'm almost tempted to agree. I'd feel pretty pissed if I was playing my Wii one day and suddenly a message popped up claiming I was obese, regardless of whether I am. The point of a video game is to provide an escape from reality, not impose it upon you.

                The people playing also have to realize it's a video game.

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                  Posted 16 May 2008 - 09:34 PM

                  Your point being?

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                    Posted 17 May 2008 - 12:10 AM

                    View PostSplit Infinity, on May 17 2008, 02:44 AM, said:

                    I'm almost tempted to agree. I'd feel pretty pissed if I was playing my Wii one day and suddenly a message popped up claiming I was obese, regardless of whether I am. The point of a video game is to provide an escape from reality, not impose it upon you.

                    Well yes, but isn't it designed to make you fit? It's going to be pretty difficult if it doesn't know your weight.

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                      Posted 17 May 2008 - 01:13 AM

                      Yeah, but the game should be reward you for making progress, not just for falling within the bounds of an 'acceptable' weight.

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                        Posted 17 May 2008 - 04:05 AM

                        i ****ng hate the Daily Wail.

                        maybe she wouldnt be fat if she played the ****ing wiifit and laid off the burgers

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                          Posted 17 May 2008 - 04:09 AM

                          http://s304.photobucket.com/albums/nn191/Mallicklocal/th_1209772524310.jpg you're fat, kid

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                            Posted 17 May 2008 - 04:13 AM

                            they really dont work outside 4chan :/

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                              Posted 17 May 2008 - 04:14 AM

                              I learned that today. A shame, I fell in love with the hitler one when I first saw it.

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                                Posted 17 May 2008 - 04:17 AM

                                View PostLaharl, on May 17 2008, 11:05 AM, said:

                                i ****ng hate the Daily Wail.

                                maybe she wouldnt be fat if she played the ****ing wiifit and laid off the burgers

                                I'd prefer to actually see the girl before simply judging her as fat.
                                The idea of the game deserving an 18 rating made me laugh though. It would look out of place surrounded by GTA and Manhunt.

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                                  Posted 17 May 2008 - 04:20 AM

                                  That's the one thing I don't agree on. You might as well slap that rating on any game which is remotely hard, since losing would lower your self-esteem. :/

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                                    Posted 17 May 2008 - 04:34 AM

                                    To be fari, that's just the view of one of the people in the industry. Age ratings should come from violence or sex, not self esteem issues.

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                                      Posted 17 May 2008 - 06:26 AM

                                      View PostLaharl, on May 17 2008, 11:05 AM, said:

                                      i ****ng hate the Daily Wail.

                                      maybe she wouldnt be fat if she played the ****ing wiifit and laid off the burgers


                                      Thankyou!! Clearly you share my own heartless viewpoint when it comes to obesity XD

                                      ~2000~ ...again

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                                        Posted 17 May 2008 - 06:39 AM

                                        Wow, what controversy? I applaud Nintendo for trying to solve this obesity problem...

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                                          Posted 17 May 2008 - 12:21 PM

                                          No doubt, I was expecting this sort of thing to happen ever since Wii Fit was revealed. Yes, the peripheral is innovative and is extremely sensitive - technologically, it's a reasonably impressive feat by Nintendo. However, it does have its limitations, and relying too much on BMI is one of them - BMI isn't even universally accepted, but it is especially not a good index to use for children, whose bodies develop very quickly and thus change considerably when young.

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                                            Posted 17 May 2008 - 12:53 PM

                                            Well it shows that there is still some fine tuning needed for the technology. A programme last week said that the DS mic can be unresponsive for certain accents.

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                                              Posted 17 May 2008 - 01:33 PM

                                              BMI may not be accurate but its something - childhood obesity in the UK is appalling.

                                              Seriously though, I can't believe they wanna 18+ it. What the hell would the disclaimer on the back say?!

                                              Warning, this game contains disturbing content: Your weight!

                                              XD Actually, they should totally do that.

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                                                Posted 17 May 2008 - 02:54 PM

                                                Obesity in general is pretty bad here. I need to start exercising more myself. I'm not getting fat, but my endurance is pretty sad compared to what it was at the end of last fall. D: Plus, I'd absolutely hate it if I couldn't be acrobatic to some extent. I'd hate being fat.

                                                Anyway, the girl mentioned in the article wasn't fat. She was just more built than most kids her age. I've known a few people like that over the years. They're not fat, just big. That's where the controversy is coming from with this.

                                                Though I'm all for Wii Fit calling people fat. :P Hopefully it'll reduce obesity to some extent.

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                                                  Posted 17 May 2008 - 03:06 PM

                                                  Or raise depression.
                                                  I mean, don't get me wrong, the game has to give an honest account or it would be useless otherwise. However some people can get pretty badly abused because of their weight, and having their TV tell them they're overweight wouldn't make them feel better.
                                                  I guess it's an unfortunate mix.

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                                                    Posted 17 May 2008 - 04:23 PM

                                                    ROFL

                                                    Not ROFL.

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                                                      Posted 17 May 2008 - 05:38 PM

                                                      I agree with Caael.

                                                      However, I refer you all to a popular youtube video.

                                                      http://youtube.com/watch?v=unkIVvjZc9Y

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                                                        Posted 17 May 2008 - 05:43 PM

                                                        View PostMe111, on May 17 2008, 05:06 PM, said:

                                                        Or raise depression.
                                                        I mean, don't get me wrong, the game has to give an honest account or it would be useless otherwise. However some people can get pretty badly abused because of their weight, and having their TV tell them they're overweight wouldn't make them feel better.
                                                        I guess it's an unfortunate mix.
                                                        Wait... So we should just let them fool themselves? People need to start treating obesity as a diseases because it is. Yeah, it's caused by genes for some, but for the vast majority it's caused by personal choices.

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                                                          Posted 17 May 2008 - 05:54 PM

                                                          Fat people deserve to be fat. End of arguement.

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                                                            Posted 17 May 2008 - 06:46 PM

                                                            *coughdiabetescough*

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                                                              Posted 17 May 2008 - 08:32 PM

                                                              View PostToasty, on May 17 2008, 01:54 PM, said:

                                                              Obesity in general is pretty bad here.

                                                              You're american.

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                                                                Posted 17 May 2008 - 08:41 PM

                                                                That's getting very old PDM...

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                                                                  Posted 17 May 2008 - 08:54 PM

                                                                  View PostEugine, on May 17 2008, 07:41 PM, said:

                                                                  That's getting very old PDM...

                                                                  You're an idiot.

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                                                                    Posted 17 May 2008 - 09:09 PM

                                                                    Yeah, an idiot who thinks that the "You're American" insult is rather old and not funny anymore o.o

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                                                                      Posted 17 May 2008 - 09:39 PM

                                                                      The problem is BMI doesn't take muscle into account. A well-muscled person could be considered overweight, when they might not have much body fat at all.

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                                                                        Posted 17 May 2008 - 10:09 PM

                                                                        Not to mention muscle is heavier than fat.


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