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How to make your games better

#1   Ironsight 

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    Posted 16 July 2008 - 12:52 AM

    I'm sure we've all played at least one game that we wished the developers had let us do something differently ect. Name the game and what you would have changed/ added.

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      Posted 16 July 2008 - 12:57 AM

      Oblivion: More characters and bigger cities. Epic battles were pathetic with about 12 people involved.

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        Posted 16 July 2008 - 01:01 AM

        Fable: A reason to be a dick/saint.

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          Posted 16 July 2008 - 02:31 AM

          Brawl: A decent online system with no lag.

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            Posted 16 July 2008 - 05:45 AM

            Brawl: Sakurai dieing just before then game was announced.

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              Posted 16 July 2008 - 05:49 AM

              View PostToasty, on Jul 16 2008, 02:31 AM, said:

              Brawl: A decent online system with no lag.

              Too whackin bad :P

              No More Heroes: able to run people over.

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                Posted 16 July 2008 - 06:12 AM

                Zelda: Twilight Princess - Much MUCH more to do outside of dungeons.

                Zelda: Majora's Mask - At least another two dungeons.

                Zelda: Wind Waker - There would be no end if I began.

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                  Posted 16 July 2008 - 06:29 AM

                  TWW was an awesome game :P

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                    Posted 16 July 2008 - 06:41 AM

                    View PostZeypher, on Jul 16 2008, 04:49 AM, said:

                    Too whackin bad :P


                    The online isn't as good as it could be. Even you should agree with that. If you don't, then you're blind.

                    View PostZeypher, on Jul 16 2008, 05:29 AM, said:

                    TWW was an awesome game :)


                    Hence why the only thing he could of think to improve was to make the game last forever.

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                      Posted 16 July 2008 - 07:42 AM

                      Yeah, Brawl really sucks online. Sakurai failed us :P

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                        Posted 16 July 2008 - 07:47 AM

                        And dont get me started on how he dumbed the whack down the game.

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                          Posted 16 July 2008 - 07:50 AM

                          Too cluttered. Alot of 4 man Brawls are annoying because the stages are soo small.

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                            Posted 16 July 2008 - 09:19 AM

                            View PostAquamarine, on Jul 16 2008, 01:12 PM, said:

                            Zelda: Majora's Mask - REMAKE REMAKE REMAKE


                            Fixed.

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                              Posted 16 July 2008 - 09:30 AM

                              3D Sonics- Fewer characters, better voices, less 'serious' story.
                              GTA IV-Socialising being less frequent+less necessary for bonuses.

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                                Posted 16 July 2008 - 11:39 AM

                                View PostZeypher, on Jul 16 2008, 05:29 AM, said:

                                TWW was an awesome game :D

                                Not really but let's not get into this again.

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                                Zelda: Twilight Princess - Much MUCH more to do outside of dungeons.

                                QFT

                                For the topic. Less shooters. There, we have better games already.

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                                  Posted 16 July 2008 - 11:42 AM

                                  View PostToasty, on Jul 16 2008, 02:41 PM, said:

                                  Hence why the only thing he could of think to improve was to make the game last forever.


                                  What? No, that's now what I meant! What I wanted to say is that if I started talking about what I would have changed in TWW I would never end my rant, because there is so much I would change. Geddit nao?

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                                    Posted 16 July 2008 - 12:00 PM

                                    Mass Effect: Include characters with some emotion.

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                                      Posted 16 July 2008 - 02:00 PM

                                      Mass effect: Make some human sidekicks likeable.

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                                        Posted 16 July 2008 - 02:57 PM

                                        They could gotten rid of all the times you have to wait, like in the slow elevators and leaving the ship.

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                                          Posted 16 July 2008 - 03:21 PM

                                          Yeah.

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                                            Posted 17 July 2008 - 09:31 AM

                                            They probably figured slow elevators would be less disruptive than loading screens everywhere.

                                            Interestingly, mine is also about Mass Effect (and I thought of it before turning the page). Mine was that all the sidequests shouldn't be whacking exactly the same. It was a great game, but it definitely had it its flaws.

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                                              Posted 17 July 2008 - 10:09 AM

                                              games by EA - let someone else make them

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                                                Posted 17 July 2008 - 10:44 AM

                                                While we're at it...
                                                Games by Ubisoft- make them not suck so much cock.

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                                                  Posted 17 July 2008 - 10:55 AM

                                                  Creed was good.

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                                                    Posted 17 July 2008 - 11:11 AM

                                                    Creed was good.

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                                                      Posted 17 July 2008 - 11:20 AM

                                                      I meant their Wii games. You know, RedSteel, Petz, Horsez...

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                                                        Posted 17 July 2008 - 11:22 AM

                                                        Petz was good. =[

                                                        Stop making casual crap.

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                                                          Posted 17 July 2008 - 01:46 PM

                                                          View PostZeypher, on Jul 17 2008, 05:44 PM, said:

                                                          While we're at it...
                                                          Games by Ubisoft- make them not suck so much cock.

                                                          Makes me miss the old Rayman platforming games. They used to kick ass. Now we get WarioWare rip offs.

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                                                            Posted 12 August 2008 - 09:14 PM

                                                            Revived.
                                                            Gears of war: More weapons would be nice, I guess.

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                                                              Posted 12 August 2008 - 11:21 PM

                                                              View PostWind Dude, on Jul 17 2008, 10:22 AM, said:

                                                              Stop making casual crap.

                                                              That would solve every problem. Ever.

                                                              View PostDarksword, on Aug 12 2008, 08:14 PM, said:

                                                              Gears of war: More weapons would be nice, I guess.

                                                              Here ya go.

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                                                                Posted 13 August 2008 - 12:41 AM

                                                                Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn - a more even pace and distribution of characters throughout the chapters. It's seriously frustrating to realize that out of the incredible roster of 72 playable characters, you can only feasibly choose from 30% in your final party

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                                                                  Posted 13 August 2008 - 12:48 AM

                                                                  View PostDarksword, on Aug 13 2008, 05:14 AM, said:

                                                                  Revived.
                                                                  Gears of war: More weapons would be nice, I guess.


                                                                  They probably realised they couldn't think something up that was more awesome than the chainsaw gun, so they gave up. Chainsaw gun.... mmm...

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                                                                    Posted 15 August 2008 - 04:36 PM

                                                                    Eternal Sonata (and most RPGs really): Why is there such a massive level gap between different sections of the game? I mean, you kill a boss and come out of a dungeon to find that the new monsters completely overpower you, resulting in a lot of grinding time.

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                                                                      Posted 15 August 2008 - 05:10 PM

                                                                      Knights of the old Republic 1 and 2: Moar planets, less lame battle system. Being able to pick your crew would be great too.

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                                                                        Posted 15 August 2008 - 05:25 PM

                                                                        Fable: Be unique. It just seems to be like every other fantasy game ever.

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                                                                          Posted 15 August 2008 - 05:27 PM

                                                                          Adding to Knights of the old Republic:
                                                                          Make you ship useful. Giving it some form of customizability would be awesome, but I'm afraid I ight be asking for too much at this point.

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                                                                            Posted 17 August 2008 - 01:09 PM

                                                                            View PostCaael, on Aug 15 2008, 06:36 PM, said:

                                                                            Eternal Sonata (and most RPGs really): Why is there such a massive level gap between different sections of the game? I mean, you kill a boss and come out of a dungeon to find that the new monsters completely overpower you, resulting in a lot of grinding time.

                                                                            That sounds more like the oldschool RPG's. Most of them now have a gradual level increase.

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                                                                              Posted 17 August 2008 - 01:38 PM

                                                                              View PostMe111, on Aug 15 2008, 04:25 PM, said:

                                                                              Fable: Be unique. It just seems to be like every other fantasy game ever.

                                                                              Really? Fable 2 has guns, doesn't it? How many medieval fantasy games have guns? Not many...

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                                                                                Posted 17 August 2008 - 02:15 PM

                                                                                Fable 2 may have guns, but the original doesn't appear to.

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                                                                                  Posted 17 August 2008 - 02:19 PM

                                                                                  Yeah, but how many games offer such depth as Fable? You basically control your characters life completely. There's other fantasy games, but Fable is completely non-linear.

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                                                                                    Posted 17 August 2008 - 02:37 PM

                                                                                    View PostDarksword, on Aug 16 2008, 01:27 AM, said:

                                                                                    Adding to Knights of the old Republic:
                                                                                    Make you ship useful. Giving it some form of customizability would be awesome, but I'm afraid I ight be asking for too much at this point.



                                                                                    Meh, I'd just like to see a more powerful lightsaber and more enemies. Jedi's vs. hordes of enemies and cutting them down rpg style seems like more fun then the battle system they used.

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                                                                                      Posted 17 August 2008 - 04:35 PM

                                                                                      View PostMe111, on Aug 17 2008, 01:15 PM, said:

                                                                                      Fable 2 may have guns, but the original doesn't appear to.

                                                                                      That's because Fable 2 takes place a couple hundred years after the original. Technology advanced quite a bit. I think Fable 2 is going to be steampunk, I'm not sure. The setting's looking good either way.

                                                                                      But the original Fable probably was a bit generic fantasy, though I haven't played it.

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                                                                                        View PostSaturos Striker, on Aug 17 2008, 01:37 PM, said:

                                                                                        Meh, I'd just like to see a more powerful lightsaber and more enemies. Jedi's vs. hordes of enemies and cutting them down rpg style seems like more fun then the battle system they used.

                                                                                        I kind of didn't like how easy it is to get a lightsaber in the games as well.

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                                                                                          Posted 17 August 2008 - 07:08 PM

                                                                                          Fable: Less like an action game.

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                                                                                            Posted 17 August 2008 - 07:28 PM

                                                                                            Topic said:

                                                                                            How to make your games better

                                                                                            Alcohol. /thread

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                                                                                              Posted 17 August 2008 - 07:42 PM

                                                                                              View PostAnonymous, on Aug 17 2008, 06:28 PM, said:

                                                                                              Alcohol. /thread

                                                                                              QFT.

                                                                                              Oblivion: Don't make the fans fix your mistakes.

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                                                                                                Posted 18 August 2008 - 12:32 PM

                                                                                                Can we have a game for the future part? Because if so:
                                                                                                Sonic Unleashed: Remove the Werehog. Seriously why go slow in a Sonic game?
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                                                                                                  Posted 18 August 2008 - 04:14 PM

                                                                                                  How to make games better?

                                                                                                  One simple answer, weed.

                                                                                                  And less complaints...

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                                                                                                    Posted 18 August 2008 - 04:26 PM

                                                                                                    View PostDiddy Kong, on Aug 18 2008, 06:14 PM, said:

                                                                                                    How to make games better?

                                                                                                    One simple answer, weed.

                                                                                                    And less complaints...

                                                                                                    QFT!

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                                                                                                      Posted 19 August 2008 - 05:37 AM

                                                                                                      Almost every game ever: More than 500 hours of gameplay in a single playthrough, or in the whole game if it's not 1 player only.

                                                                                                      All WRPG's: More immersive and captivating storyline

                                                                                                      All JRPG's: Less linear gameplay

                                                                                                      All Most FPS's: More origionality,

                                                                                                      All Racing games: Customziability like that found in NFS: Porsche Unleashed, but still have each title be different

                                                                                                      Some Adventure games *coughTPcough*: Something different to do in every section of the game.


                                                                                                      :rolleyes:

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                                                                                                        Posted 19 August 2008 - 10:27 AM

                                                                                                        NFL Games= Take them away from EA.

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                                                                                                          Posted 20 August 2008 - 02:00 PM

                                                                                                          Guitar Hero
                                                                                                          Needs more cowbell.
                                                                                                          xD
                                                                                                          No seriously, Crisis Core: Make the missions worth doing, not the same flippin thing everytime.

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                                                                                                            Posted 20 August 2008 - 02:03 PM

                                                                                                            View PostBlue, on Aug 20 2008, 04:00 PM, said:

                                                                                                            Guitar Hero
                                                                                                            Needs more cowbell.

                                                                                                            xD
                                                                                                            No seriously, Crisis Core: Make the missions worth doing, not the same flippin thing everytime.

                                                                                                            Fuckin' awesome.

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                                                                                                              Posted 21 August 2008 - 12:41 PM

                                                                                                              View PostDarksword, on Aug 18 2008, 01:27 AM, said:

                                                                                                              I kind of didn't like how easy it is to get a lightsaber in the games as well.



                                                                                                              Yep, and in two you ended up with 5 jedis or something by the influence thingie.

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                                                                                                                Posted 21 August 2008 - 01:52 PM

                                                                                                                View PostToasty, on Aug 19 2008, 01:37 PM, said:

                                                                                                                Almost every game ever: More than 500 hours of gameplay in a single playthrough, or in the whole game if it's not 1 player only.


                                                                                                                That must be a joke, seriously. Are you aware how bored everyone would get if every game was 500+ hours long? Not to mention the games would be AMAZINGLY repetitive...

                                                                                                                Almost every single player game should be about 70+ hours long in my opinion, but even that is pushing it...

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                                                                                                                  Posted 21 August 2008 - 10:06 PM

                                                                                                                  In a perfect world, all games would be origional pieces of art, and they would all have 500+ hours of gameplay. With each hour different from the next.

                                                                                                                  But since we don't live in an ideal world, we have Walgreens. Open 24 hours a day.

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                                                                                                                    Posted 22 August 2008 - 01:49 PM

                                                                                                                    Communism would have worked in a ideal world as well, but you don't see me bringing that up.

                                                                                                                    ...well, till now.


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