Speculating, analyzing, and completely prying apart this art! Over-analyze away!
#1
Posted 04 June 2009 - 01:01 PM
http://media.goldensun.webfactional.com/gs..._01illu1_E3.jpg
Putting it in a link because it's huge.
If we didn't know that GS3 was about the descendants of the original game(s), it'd be pretty easy to assume that this picture displays Isaac, older Garet, and either an adult Sheba or Mia like some seem to think.
There's a problem with that though, because we DO know that this game is about the descendants. Yet "Isaac" looks incredibly like... well, Isaac. It's possible his grandkid just looks exactly like him. 8| Or, the perpetually youthful Isaac theory could work because Isaac supposedly had special powers imbued to him from the Mars Star at the end of TLA. Perhaps the Mars Star granted him ever-lasting youth, or at least deffered aging.
"Garet" has some lightning going on with the swing of his axe. That's most likely Garet's descendant who was born affiliated with Jupiter rather than Mars... or this could be an older Garet that's taken a liking to Jupiter Djinn. =P
As for the chick, I don't know what to say about her. Personally I think it looks like she's casting some Mercury psynergy, but the clothing style hints more to her being a Jupiter adept. It could go either way. She could be Sheba's descendant, an adult Sheba, Mia with a re-done wardrobe and hairstyle, or completely new character, anything's possible.
On another, completely unrelated note, starting with this new art, I've noticed that many Golden Sun characters are depicted as wielding their weapons in their left hand. Really, go take a look. Actually, the only weapons I've seen being held in the right hand are staves and rods. Do adepts have a unique fighting style where the weapon is wielded in the left hand for secondary use, while the right hand is extended forward for casting purposes? Basically, the weapon is used secondarily, whilst magic is used primarily?
Or is it just the artist's oversight, or purely a coincidence, and either way I'm reading into this far too much? XP
But yeah... topic.
#2
Posted 04 June 2009 - 02:54 PM
#3
Posted 04 June 2009 - 03:05 PM
Darksword, on Jun 2 2009, 04:53 PM, said:
Plus, do you really want the same characters after this long a wait?
The Garet look-alike doesn't have to be a Wind Adept to have lightning coming out of his weapon. I gave Garet the Themis Axe in TLA and it didn't turn him into an Earth Adept.
As for the mystery girl, your guess is as good as mine. Although judging by her appearance, she's probably a Wind Adept.
#4
Posted 04 June 2009 - 08:06 PM
Platinum Sun, on Jun 4 2009, 01:54 PM, said:
I actually did notice his face looked younger, and his hair is a little different too, the spikes face forward quite a bit more. I saw these things more as just the artist's depiction of Isaac changing over time. I guess I just think that if he is indeed not Isaac, the artists should try to actually make him look like a different person. Maybe a different shaped head or eyes, something besides a different haircut.
As for mystery chick, I hope this is a completely new character and not descendant. Honestly, I find the descendants idea a little boring and being lazy, I want to learn about some new people, as fond as everybody seems to be of the original cast here.
#5
Posted 04 June 2009 - 08:27 PM
#6
Posted 04 June 2009 - 08:46 PM
Someone Else, on Jun 4 2009, 07:06 PM, said:
I agree with this statement.
#7
Posted 04 June 2009 - 09:07 PM
Blue, on Jun 4 2009, 07:27 PM, said:
I doubt a full party is anything smaller than a group of four. Remember that you started TBS (not counting Jenna in the Sol Sanctum) with a party of two and TLA with a party of three.
Also, yeah, is it just me or does "descendants" hint that these characters are farther down the line than just being sons and daughters of the original cast?
#8
Posted 04 June 2009 - 09:36 PM
Someone Else, on Jun 4 2009, 08:07 PM, said:
Also, yeah, is it just me or does "descendants" hint that these characters are farther down the line than just being sons and daughters of the original cast?
Yeah, but all of the previous artwork featured four characters. Even TLA, Piers was in the art work. So why no fourth person now? Maybe thats a bigger secret...
#9
Posted 04 June 2009 - 10:15 PM
#10
Posted 04 June 2009 - 10:41 PM
gsninja, on Jun 4 2009, 09:15 PM, said:
That.
Though honestly, I don't think I'd mind a limit of 3 characters. Would make battles a lot more tactical if it were done right.
TBS and TLA weren't very hard except for end game fights.
#11
Posted 05 June 2009 - 03:10 AM
But does anyone here think that we might get to transfer data from TLA to GS3?
#12
Posted 05 June 2009 - 03:48 AM
#13
Posted 05 June 2009 - 04:43 AM
Toasty, on Jun 5 2009, 07:10 PM, said:
It'd be a pretty big slap in the face to the original fans if they didn't. Though I wouldn't transfer anything vital like Djinn, considering how long it's been since the first games were available.
#14
Posted 05 June 2009 - 08:15 AM
Blue, on Jun 4 2009, 08:36 PM, said:
No. They didn't release any artwork to the public with Piers in it, nor did they make any mention of him. Not until the game came out.
Calling GS1 TBS or the broken seal is fvck you.
#15
Posted 05 June 2009 - 08:27 AM
As for Garet's eye color being different, Ivan and Piers eye colors are inconsistent in the art. Sometimes Ivans eyes are purple and sometimes they are blue. Piers eyes are sometimes yellow and sometimes blue. Pay attention.
#16
Posted 05 June 2009 - 11:25 AM
we need new blood!
#17
Posted 05 June 2009 - 08:51 PM
What I'm excited about is GSDS breaking new ground in the hand-held RPG genre. As I recall, back in the day people were raving because Golden Sun was one of the best-looking hand-held RPGs on the market, and GS: TLA was even prettier. Not to mention the awesome storyline, etc.
I suspect that GSDS will be just as intensely pivotal as the first two installments. I've already heard people talking about the graphics of the new one!
#19
Posted 05 June 2009 - 10:28 PM
I also like your theory, WD, 'cause I noticed this with Garet too. We see him weilding a weapon in his left hand, but here, he's using magic with his right: Image Link
#20
Posted 06 June 2009 - 04:17 AM
Someone Else, on Jun 5 2009, 04:27 PM, said:
As for Garet's eye color being different, Ivan and Piers eye colors are inconsistent in the art. Sometimes Ivans eyes are purple and sometimes they are blue. Piers eyes are sometimes yellow and sometimes blue. Pay attention.
Really? Never noticed that.. What I did notice though, is that Sheba's eyes are purple in the game but green in the artwork.
#21
Posted 06 June 2009 - 07:45 AM
Split Infinity, on Jun 5 2009, 11:05 PM, said:
Haha, I do like clean, beautiful graphics with my games. Part of the reason why I gave Dead Space a try, and loved it; because it looks marvelous!
Honestly, in these days of gaming, graphics are sometimes a requirement to tell a great story. Think of the upcoming Alan Wake game. Excellent graphics are the key to telling that story effectively. In a lot of games, it's not so important. Anyone who's played GS or GS: TLA would buy GSDS for the amazing storyline, regardless of the graphics, but the original games were known for their ground-breaking graphics. It really can't hurt to keep up the ongoing praise, now can it?
Also, amazing graphics draws in graphic whores that aren't as interested in the story, thus boosting revenue. :lol:
#23
Posted 07 June 2009 - 12:15 AM
But where's the information about Golden Sun 3 being about descendants? I've never heard of that before.
#24
Posted 07 June 2009 - 12:21 AM
#25
Posted 07 June 2009 - 03:43 PM
I wouldn't mind having him as part of the plot or storyline, but not as a playable character.
#26
Posted 08 June 2009 - 01:06 AM
#27
Posted 09 June 2009 - 08:23 AM
1. You only start out with those three characters in the beginning of the game and the Jupiter adept joins along.
2. The Jupiter adepts have died out and they seek to find a way to revive it.
3. A Jupiter adept is no longer a hero but now a nemesis and fights agianst the three young heroes.
What do you guys think?
#28
Posted 09 June 2009 - 11:36 AM
Most likely the missing element's adept will show up later.
#29
Posted 09 June 2009 - 12:01 PM
what if...
...there is one main plot line, but more than one path to take? like what if you have to chose one of those three characters on the poster to be your main character in the game, and the story differs slightly depending on who you pick? i know, it's never been done in Golden Sun before, but then, neither has 3D graphics. but yeah. it's just a wild theory.
anyways, moving on.
#34
Posted 09 June 2009 - 04:47 PM
Anyways, he could just be a mix or maybe he's a descendent of Garet and Sheba?
#35
Posted 09 June 2009 - 06:51 PM
Matthias, on Jun 7 2009, 04:15 PM, said:
Or Sora's Nobody...
Red guy is not Jupiter, I don't see Camelot being that original.
#37
Posted 09 June 2009 - 09:53 PM
Anyone remember an axe that had a lightning (i.e. jupiter) based release?
Just because the stuff coming out of the weapon is from a certain element doesn't mean that the adept shares the same element.
#38
Posted 09 June 2009 - 09:57 PM
#39
Posted 09 June 2009 - 10:33 PM
Toasty, on Jun 9 2009, 08:53 PM, said:
Anyone remember an axe that had a lightning (i.e. jupiter) based release?
Just because the stuff coming out of the weapon is from a certain element doesn't mean that the adept shares the same element.
I don't think they'd reference the weapon "howls" in the first official art, which will be seen by a lot of people who know nothing about Golden Sun and would wrongly assume "Garet" is some sort of lightning mage.
Assuming "Garet" is in fact a Mars Adept.
#42
Posted 09 June 2009 - 11:41 PM
Someone Else, on Jun 9 2009, 09:33 PM, said:
Assuming "Garet" is in fact a Mars Adept.
I do. It's not very likely that a significant number of people are actually going to analyze the picture like the fans (lol us) will.
Most of them will think "oh cool, that badass is shooting lightning out of his ****ing axe"
#45
Posted 10 June 2009 - 04:56 PM
#46
Posted 10 June 2009 - 07:42 PM
#47
Posted 10 June 2009 - 07:53 PM
Toasty, on Jun 9 2009, 09:53 PM, said:
Anyone remember an axe that had a lightning (i.e. jupiter) based release?
Just because the stuff coming out of the weapon is from a certain element doesn't mean that the adept shares the same element.
The Storm Brand from Air's Rock is an example of a Jupiter based weapon that Sheba and Ivan couldn't weild.
#48
Posted 10 June 2009 - 09:04 PM
#50
Posted 11 June 2009 - 12:31 AM
#52
Posted 11 June 2009 - 01:30 AM
[EDIT] According to our fancy new website, the Soul Brand was fire-based.
[EDIT 2] Apparently the Storm Brand is Jupiter-based.
So that makes the Storm and Cloud brands for Jupiter, the Soul and Fire Brands for Mars, and nothing for Venus or Mercury. Huh.
#54
Posted 11 June 2009 - 04:03 AM
#55
Posted 11 June 2009 - 01:13 PM
#56
Posted 11 June 2009 - 03:10 PM
#57
Posted 14 June 2009 - 07:05 PM
It's a remake. Those are Isaac, Garet and Mia.
I would bet that DS is a mix of The Lost Age and GS together with loads of extra content. That's what I want more than anything, before anything goes on.
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Posted 15 June 2009 - 02:27 AM
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Posted 15 June 2009 - 02:36 AM
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Posted 15 June 2009 - 02:46 AM
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