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Frankly, I think the game is a simple remake

#1   OtakuRPGamer 

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    Posted 14 June 2009 - 07:01 PM

    The Isaac in the new game has to be the original one, because there's too much similarity.

    I chalk it up to Nintendo giving a wrong description of the game. There's been lots of times that a game has had a wrong description when first announced.

    I love the art and it's new rendition of the characters. ^.^

    *Pumps fist in air* Isaac, Garet and Mia!! O:<

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      Posted 14 June 2009 - 10:54 PM

      Nintendo themselves came out and said this is about their descendants.

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        Posted 14 June 2009 - 11:00 PM

        Why would concept art depict Mia, Isaac, and Garet? The GS1 party never had those three and only those three together.

        Not bashing you or anything.

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          Posted 14 June 2009 - 11:20 PM

          Well heres the evidence right here on Nintendo's website:
          http://e3.nintendo.com/pressrelease/

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            Posted 14 June 2009 - 11:59 PM

            Actually, I HAVE had the three of them together in one group on the original game. Though only for a short time.

            And I know about the press release. I'm waiting until word from the Developers comes out as to what this is.

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              Posted 15 June 2009 - 12:02 AM

              You need Ivan before you can get to Mia, though.

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                Posted 15 June 2009 - 12:14 AM

                Nintendo owns the rights to the game, how would they not know the direction of their own game is going? Just because they let some one else make it doesn't mean they have no idea whats happening.

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                  Posted 15 June 2009 - 01:26 AM

                  I'm horribly tempted to scream that this is either a spy or a troll.

                  That troll is a spy?

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                    Posted 15 June 2009 - 02:28 AM

                    At least a remake would be a guaranteed epic; it's murky waters at the moment as to whether Camelot will be able to pull this off again.

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                      Posted 15 June 2009 - 12:17 PM

                      I'm offended that I would be called a Troll. I'm simple stating my views. I would love for it to be "Golden Sun 3", but seeing as how Mia, Garet and Isaac are prominent on the new artwork, I have to say it looks to be a remake.

                      I mean, the art style is obviously of another artist (and I like it!!), so he could be putting his own spin on how the characters look.

                      I am waiting for the DEVELOPER (Camelot) to release more info, not on the PUBLISHER (Nintendo), who only license and publish the game. Maybe there's a few Nintendo employee's in on the team, but still... Just waiting for Camelot.

                      If the game IS about descendants, I'll apologize for my "differing" opinion, seeing as how it's blasphemy to question Nintendo's word.

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                        Posted 15 June 2009 - 12:28 PM

                        It would be horrible business practice for Nintendo not to know what is going to be in a game that has their name written all over it. And as for the character art, sure, two of those look like Isaac and Garret, but that woman looks nothing like Mia. Outfit is completely different, hairstyle is way wrong. And nothing or nothing, but the only time you'll see the developers say anything is if theirs an interview. Their website has nothing on games coming out, just games they already developed. Hell, its obvious the games been in development for a period of time now and they haven't even given us a clue until this E3.

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                          Posted 15 June 2009 - 02:32 PM

                          View PostOtakuRPGamer, on Jun 15 2009, 08:17 PM, said:

                          I'm offended that I would be called a Troll. I'm simple stating my views. I would love for it to be "Golden Sun 3", but seeing as how Mia, Garet and Isaac are prominent on the new artwork, I have to say it looks to be a remake.

                          I mean, the art style is obviously of another artist (and I like it!!), so he could be putting his own spin on how the characters look.

                          I am waiting for the DEVELOPER (Camelot) to release more info, not on the PUBLISHER (Nintendo), who only license and publish the game. Maybe there's a few Nintendo employee's in on the team, but still... Just waiting for Camelot.

                          If the game IS about descendants, I'll apologize for my "differing" opinion, seeing as how it's blasphemy to question Nintendo's word.


                          I totally disagree with you. You say Mia, Garet and Isaac are prominent on the new artwork. I have to agree with the fact that the guy in the front does look like Isaac. However, the guy with the red hair looks only a little like Garet (different nose etc.) and the 'mysterious girl' looks in NO WAY like Mia. No way at all. I'm very sure this will not be a remake; why on earth would you change the artwork so severely for just that? It wouldn't make any sense. I respect your opinion, but I think you should roll it over once more; would a remake really make sense, if you look at the artwork? I don't think so.

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                            Posted 15 June 2009 - 03:29 PM

                            Well, I don't see why not. There's no reason they couldn't keep things fresh.

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                              Posted 15 June 2009 - 03:56 PM

                              Nintendo has done a LOT of remakes. this doesn't look like one of them to me.

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                                Posted 15 June 2009 - 05:42 PM

                                In the gameplay videos, they showed the Eclipse summon. That means that if it is going to be a remake, it'll either be just of GS:TLA or a compilation of the first and second title. But that would make for one long-ass game, and it doesn't make much sense to have Isaac, Garet, and Mia in the first official piece of artwork if it's a remake of TLA.


                                I also agree that the girl in the artwork looks nothing like Mia. Even if it's a different style, there's just not enough of a resemblance.


                                But hey, at this point in time, the whole thing is wide open for speculation. There really aren't enough details to draw a clear picture on this matter.

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                                  Posted 15 June 2009 - 07:42 PM

                                  I'm all for over-analyzing, but to ignore what even Nintendo says seems a little silly. =/

                                  Again, I'm not bashing your opinion, it's just sort of far-fetched is all.

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                                    Posted 15 June 2009 - 09:23 PM

                                    View PostSomeone Else, on Jun 15 2009, 09:42 PM, said:

                                    I'm all for over-analyzing, but to ignore what even Nintendo says seems a little silly. =/

                                    agreed.

                                    Please post more constructively, with a minimum of 5 words, in the future.

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                                      Posted 15 June 2009 - 10:24 PM

                                      As Toasty said, we should be willing to consider all ideas as what we know about the new GS is very little. I personally do not think it is a remake for reasons already stated, but stranger things have happened.

                                      I will also say that OtakuRPGamer's point on reading into information from the publisher vs. the developer is a good distinction and one worth noting.

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                                        Posted 15 June 2009 - 11:02 PM

                                        I refuse to believe its a remake. I've waited for far too long and it not be a new chapter. If it is a remake I will kill camlot. lol not really. But I will be annoyed. But from what it looks like I think it is a new story but then again its too early and we know far too little. So I'll just wait and see when new info comes. Im still refusing to believe its a remake though lol.

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                                          Posted 15 June 2009 - 11:24 PM

                                          A remake wouldn't be THAT bad. If it were both games in one with redone dungeons, re-envisioned in 3D, and more content I'd still be elated. I'd rather have a real GS3, though.

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                                            Posted 15 June 2009 - 11:43 PM

                                            View PostSomeone Else, on Jun 16 2009, 05:24 PM, said:

                                            A remake wouldn't be THAT bad. If it were both games in one with redone dungeons, re-envisioned in 3D, and more content I'd still be elated. I'd rather have a real GS3, though.


                                            Yea I supose you have a point. But yeah I'd much rather have a GS3.
                                            On another GS note, did anyone read the Golden Sun novel that was done by Master of Reality over at fanfiction.net? It was really well done. It seemed like the game was based on the book.

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                                              Posted 16 June 2009 - 04:19 AM

                                              I'm almost a 100% sure this won't be a remake. The E3 video showed places that I haven't seen in the originals yet, even though it's 3d (like that part were you see 'the new isaac' looking at the mountains from a cliff, or the long bridge in the playable part of the demo). I just refuse to believe it will be a remake.

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                                                Posted 16 June 2009 - 04:31 AM

                                                View PostKaj, on Jun 16 2009, 10:19 PM, said:

                                                I'm almost a 100% sure this won't be a remake. The E3 video showed places that I haven't seen in the originals yet, even though it's 3d (like that part were you see 'the new isaac' looking at the mountains from a cliff, or the long bridge in the playable part of the demo). I just refuse to believe it will be a remake.


                                                I'd agree with you there. But Im about 75% sure it wont be a remake. I just wanna know even just a little bit more about the story. Not a big amount just enough to tease me and hype me up for it even more.

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                                                  Posted 16 June 2009 - 03:45 PM

                                                  View PostKaj, on Jun 16 2009, 03:19 AM, said:

                                                  I'm almost a 100% sure this won't be a remake. The E3 video showed places that I haven't seen in the originals yet, even though it's 3d (like that part were you see 'the new isaac' looking at the mountains from a cliff, or the long bridge in the playable part of the demo). I just refuse to believe it will be a remake.


                                                  We can't be absolutely sure that the places shown in the video/demo will even be in the game. Chances are, what was there was just thrown together for the purposes of having something tangible to show.

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                                                    Posted 16 June 2009 - 10:09 PM

                                                    "This installment follows the story of the previous heroes’ descendants and immerses players into the magic of its adventure"

                                                    If it's a remake, then apparently it's going to feature Master Hand with a time machine. While I'm posting in this area, I'ma just throw in that I think there'll be some siblings.

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                                                      Posted 18 June 2009 - 07:12 AM

                                                      So who of the original cast got it awwn?

                                                      Are we going to see some sort of Jenna - Ivan Hybrid or something?

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                                                        Posted 19 June 2009 - 12:09 AM

                                                        View PostKing of Town, on Jun 19 2009, 01:12 AM, said:

                                                        So who of the original cast got it awwn?

                                                        Are we going to see some sort of Jenna - Ivan Hybrid or something?


                                                        Ok that just gave me a really disturbing image lol. But it just says descendants so it could be 40 years from the original. We could be looking at Isaac's great great grandchild. So it was very vage. We'll just have to wait till we got some more concrete info.

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                                                          Posted 19 June 2009 - 12:20 AM

                                                          I'm not sure it's possible to have great great grandchildren within a 40 year period... =/

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                                                            Posted 19 June 2009 - 01:14 AM

                                                            Ask that one girl in Britain, I'm sure she could argue that. If her kid ****ed some guy when she was 15 then she would only be 30 or so.

                                                            Split got told.

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                                                              Posted 19 June 2009 - 11:20 AM

                                                              12, 12, 12, 12.

                                                              Great, great, great, grandchildren.

                                                              Almost xD. 48.

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                                                                Posted 19 June 2009 - 04:44 PM

                                                                There's always that Brazilian kid who had a caesarean at age 5...

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                                                                  Posted 19 June 2009 - 06:13 PM

                                                                  Hey, guys... back on topic... <.<

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                                                                    Posted 19 June 2009 - 07:45 PM

                                                                    ^ troll.

                                                                    Its pretty much 100% that this new game isn't just a remake.

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                                                                      Posted 19 June 2009 - 09:46 PM

                                                                      Don't call him a troll. =/

                                                                      Dunno, everybody's pretty much said what they think about it being a remake or not, unless somebody has another point to make.

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                                                                        Posted 20 June 2009 - 08:28 PM

                                                                        Thanks SE. ;)

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                                                                          Posted 20 June 2009 - 11:59 PM

                                                                          View PostBomberman65, on Jun 18 2009, 11:09 PM, said:

                                                                          Ok that just gave me a really disturbing image lol. But it just says descendants so it could be 40 years from the original. We could be looking at Isaac's great great grandchild.

                                                                          LOLOLOLOLOL please post a lot.


                                                                          OtakuRPGamer (and everyone else for that matter), please keep in mind we have a 5 word minimum on posts. Also, keep posts relevant to the topic. If there's a problem with people going off-topic, please use the report button rather than trying to be a hero. ;D

                                                                          I have already said what I've wanted to say on this matter, and I think everyone else has as well. I'm going to close this topic unless another staffer sees it fit to keep it open.

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                                                                            Posted 22 June 2009 - 11:18 PM

                                                                            I'll be said staffer. The discussion has relevance and I don't think the topic should be closed. Anything off topics as with the past page will result in an immediate suspension.

                                                                            Carry on.

                                                                            lol, five dollars says this is the last post, or close to it.
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                                                                              Posted 23 June 2009 - 07:30 PM

                                                                              Well the simple fact is that Camelot wouldn't even be allowed to produce the game unless Nintendo said so, and for that to happen Camelot has to produce whats called a executive summary. Basicly, the executive summary is a summary of what the game is going to be about, from story, to controls, hell, to other games it's going to be like. If Nintendo doesn't like whats on the executive summary, they won't give Camelot the money to produce it.

                                                                              And thats just the first step in a long long process, to even begin making the game.

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                                                                                Listen to the Gamestop employee on a video game degree.

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                                                                                  Posted 24 June 2009 - 11:06 AM

                                                                                  Remake or not ill beat this twice, or three times..or......well....maybe just three times. I might actually prefer a remake if the new story is beyond horrible.

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                                                                                    Posted 25 June 2009 - 11:46 PM

                                                                                    Interesting on the executive summary Blue. Who's to say that Nintendo wouldn't be satisfied with a remake? I can see them preferring a full sequel, but if Camelot had (hypothetically) come forward with remaking the first games, why would Nintendo deny their request? It's bringing back a well-respected series on a platform with a larger base for more people to experience.

                                                                                    It might even make more sense than a full GS3, in some regards.

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                                                                                      Posted 25 June 2009 - 11:55 PM

                                                                                      That might be why they're calling it GSDS.

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                                                                                        Posted 26 June 2009 - 01:20 AM

                                                                                        The developers have said in interviews that they really wanted to do a third game, but didn't have the funding or time to do it.

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                                                                                          Posted 02 July 2009 - 10:59 AM

                                                                                          View PostGolden Legacy, on Jun 25 2009, 10:46 PM, said:

                                                                                          Interesting on the executive summary Blue. Who's to say that Nintendo wouldn't be satisfied with a remake? I can see them preferring a full sequel, but if Camelot had (hypothetically) come forward with remaking the first games, why would Nintendo deny their request? It's bringing back a well-respected series on a platform with a larger base for more people to experience.

                                                                                          It might even make more sense than a full GS3, in some regards.

                                                                                          It could be a remake, but Nintendo wouldn't be able to get away with saying what they did. I'm sure Camelot would have came out by now with a statement correcting them. And I'm not sure how keen Nintendo would be on a remake, sure some people haven't played the past games, but maybe thats why they are descendants? Half the time I think of descendants I think they usually mean quite a while into the "future" I mean, your parents don't call you their descendants do they? It would just be silly.

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                                                                                            Posted 02 July 2009 - 03:33 PM

                                                                                            Yeah, I bet technology has advanced so far that they've got psynergy pistols. :D


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