[Drizzy Drake]

I wasn't going to post this untill I saw Yuki's post. Please don't close this mods. Not trying to troll, I'd like an honest answer as to why its okay for MJ to rape kids but nobody else. If I get it, do whatever you want.

Yuki, on Jun 26 2009, 04:39 AM, said:

**** you.
Goddamn troll.
I think people saying horribly disrespectful comments about his death is so rude. I mean, I didn't cry, but the man was a legend. He defined an era of music and his recent years should not define his entire career as an artist. He was a creative genius, and the world will definitely have to deal with such a huge loss...

You never consider death as an option for people of Michael's caliber. Not until it happens at least.

Tbh, I think he was very sick and it wasn't something he was sharing with the public. People said that at his rehearsals he was acting erratic and not even showing up. I think stress was just building up.

Him being a legend was irrelevant. You may be able to overlook his flaws, but I'm not. He molested multiple children. And the only reason he got away with it is because of people like you going back to his legendary status. Was OJ getting off not enough for you ignorant fucks?

Imagine MJ touched your cousin. Would you be singing a different tune? Methinks you would Yuki. The man is evil, regardless of what he once was or did. I dont care if you give me Francis Ford Coppala, Edward Norton, and Hixxy, if they rape a kid Im not gonna look at their acomplishments, I'm going to look at the fact that they raped a 9 year old...

You people need to open your eyes. He made great music at one point; but he was past that a long time ago, and shouldn't be excused for it. Im glad Michael Jackson is dead, I'm ****ing glad. He was a menace to society and would have continued untill he was capped, or put in jail. And we both know the latter would never happen.

Why does ****ing music give him a pass? In the past week I've NEVER had anyone be able to answer that. If he was a lesser known artist would you rag on him? It's sad that MJ is getting to people like you, making them forgive him because he's ****ing famous. That's the ONLY reason Yuki, the ONLY reason you feel bad about it. If I came and raped your 9 year old cousin you'd have me arrested in fucking seconds.

Just consider some of this; it has me way confused. How if it was ANYBODY of lesser status, they're be murdered on the stake for what they did. But becasue it's MJ, we aren't allowed to chirp at him because it's mean :P. **** Michal Jackson, he's as bad as Paul Bernardo (google him if you dont know).

[Legolastom]

This is all true.

[Eugine]

All true. Thankfully MJ didn't "rape kids", so your essay is not valid for MJ.

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=wQwY4ll1Kfc
Watch this video. Explains what he actually did with the children.

Anyway, I was indifferent to him dieing until seeing this video.

http://edition.cnn.com/2009/SHOWBIZ/Music/...wrap/index.html
Awesome!
Awesome!!
Awesome!!!

Man, he's truly one of the greatest entertainer ever. Damn, just by looking at the rehersals, the concert would have really been the greatest comeback ever!

Really awesome stuff. I hope they make a tribute concert!

[Laharl]

ah that explains it, because as we all know paedophiles often describe their deeds in vivid detail on national news, so he must be innocent

[Aquamarine]

I haven't looked into all the child abuse stuff surrounding Michael Jackson enough to actually know whether or not he did it. I don't really care either. But if it's true, all I'm going to say is that people could start saying it's a shame Hitler is dead because he is a legend and an icon. Which he is, no matter how much you may dislike him.

[Eugine]

Laharl, on Jul 2 2009, 04:50 PM, said:

ah that explains it, because as we all know paedophiles often describe their deeds in vivid detail on national news, so he must be innocent

To be honest, I don't really want to debate whether or not MJ was a pedophile, because if a not guilty verdict and multiple accounts of the accusers admitting they did it for money are not enough to convince someone, nothing will.
But let me just say this - From the little cases involving child molestation I know, most do admit to the molestation as with
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2009-0...-sentence_N.htm
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn41...6/ai_n15995524/

Anyway, my current favourite song ^.^
http://www.youtube.c...h?v=2rQZ-L8KC_A

They guy does rock better than many so called "rock" artists!

http://edition.cnn.com/2009/SHOWBIZ/Music/...wrap/index.html
http://edition.cnn.com/2009/SHOWBIZ/Music/...wrap/index.html
http://edition.cnn.com/2009/SHOWBIZ/Music/...wrap/index.html
http://edition.cnn.com/2009/SHOWBIZ/Music/...wrap/index.html

So awesome. Had to post it again =_=

[FusionDragon28]

Drizzy Drake, on Jul 2 2009, 06:49 AM, said:

Imagine MJ touched your cousin.

I'd cut his balls off. Not ask for money to go away.

The latter throws the validity of the charges against him in question.

FD28

[Split Infinity]

Do I reeeally have to post this again?

http://en.wikipedia....aw_man_argument

[Drizzy Drake]

I love how you think we care that you post that. I fail to see how it pertains to this though.

[Split Infinity]

Show me the evidence that he did it, Chris. Because clearly a legal acquittal isn't good enough reason to drop your lulzily populist viewpoint.

[TheEnglishman]

Can't we just say that MJ is like Marmite and close this?

[Aquamarine]

I love Marmite... 8)

[Drizzy Drake]

Split Infinity, on Jul 3 2009, 05:55 AM, said:

Show me the evidence that he did it, Chris. Because clearly a legal acquittal isn't good enough reason to drop your lulzily populist viewpoint.

Wait, no, you`re right Split How could I have not seen this. He didn`t get convicted (just like I`ve never gotten convicted for an assault), so that must mean he`s innocent. Wait, in that case, OJ must be innocent too. **** me, I`ve been wrong all these years.

[Eugine]

Split Infinity, on Jul 2 2009, 08:53 PM, said:

Do I reeeally have to post this again?

http://en.wikipedia....aw_man_argument

Drizzy Drake, on Jul 2 2009, 10:42 PM, said:

I love how you think we care that you post that. I fail to see how it pertains to this though.

Drizzy Drake, on Jul 3 2009, 10:13 AM, said:

Wait, no, you`re right Split How could I have not seen this. He didn`t get convicted (just like I`ve never gotten convicted for an assault), so that must mean he`s innocent. Wait, in that case, OJ must be innocent too. **** me, I`ve been wrong all these years.

You still fail to see how it pertains to this topic? Another straw man argument.

And yes, you were indeed wrong all these years about MJ being a child molester.
Was he weird? Yes. Drug abuser? Yes. I'll even give you Wacko Jacko. He deserved the name! But a molester? Nope.

Anyway, another good video to enjoy.
http://www.youtube.c...h?v=KW3C_1eJ1UQ

Mya, Usher and Whitney Hudson performing a hit from the King of Pop. Awesome.

[Drizzy Drake]

Eugine, on Jul 3 2009, 10:25 AM, said:

You still fail to see how it pertains to this topic? Another straw man argument.

And yes, you were indeed wrong all these years about MJ being a child molester.
Was he weird? Yes. Drug abuser? Yes. I'll even give you Wacko Jacko. He deserved the name! But a molester? Nope.

Anyway, another good video to enjoy.
http://www.youtube.c...h?v=KW3C_1eJ1UQ

Mya, Usher and Whitney Hudson performing a hit from the King of Pop. Awesome.

Wrong.

And I still fail to see how that`s a straw man argument. Split stated that his innocence was based on the fact that he wasn`t convicted. I showed that his acquittal meant nothing. Please though, if it is I pray you show me.

[TheEnglishman]

Aquamarine, on Jul 3 2009, 12:32 PM, said:

I love Marmite... 8)

Smartest thing that's been said so far. :P
When I think of MJ I think of two different people. I think of the guy who's made some brilliant music (and that's coming from someone who doesn't have any real interest in it) and I think of the creepy middle aged guy that hid behind masks and made himself the butt of so many jokes. This arguement is never gonna end because both sides are always gonna focus on their own idea of what Michael Jackson was. I just think people should just have their own opinion on the guy and not force it on others.

Also I love this quote from the Straw man article

Quote

Person A: School uniforms are good for keeping students properly dressed for school, making them easier to keep track of on field trips, and ease early-morning conflict with students trying to decide what to wear.
Person B: That's a great idea... if you're a Hitler-lover.

[Caael]

TheEnglishman, on Jul 3 2009, 11:41 PM, said:

Smartest thing that's been said so far. :P
When I think of MJ I think of two different people. I think of the guy who's made some brilliant music (and that's coming from someone who doesn't have any real interest in it) and I think of the creepy middle aged guy that hid behind masks and made himself the butt of so many jokes. This arguement is never gonna end because both sides are always gonna focus on their own idea of what Michael Jackson was. I just think people should just have their own opinion on the guy and not force it on others.

Also I love this quote from the Straw man article

If only the whole world was like that *coughchristianscough*

Meh, regardless of if he did do anything to kids, it doesn't make his music less significant or good.