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Do You Think Saturos And Menardi should have been killed off

#1   water adept 

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    Posted 13 October 2004 - 04:08 PM

    For one i think satuouros and menardi shouldnt have been killed there stupid selves didnt have enough energy to stand because they turned into the fusion dragon or they would have survived, but i think golden sun the lost age would have been more fun is satuouros and menardi were still alive dont you. Also agatio and karst are dumb enemy's actually there not your enemy's becuz they want the 4 becons lit just as well as felix jenna sheba and piers do too.

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      Posted 14 October 2004 - 12:10 PM

      water adept, on Oct 13 2004, 08:38 PM, said:

      actually there not your enemy's becuz they want the 4 becons lit just as well as felix jenna sheba and piers do too.

      .....and they also want to take over the world :joy:

      anyway, I think the story's fine the way it is. 'Nuff said.

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        Posted 14 October 2004 - 06:29 PM

        Saturos needs be alive. Menardi, glad shes gone.

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          Posted 14 October 2004 - 07:46 PM

          -.- i'm starting to wonder if there is already a topic on this...

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            Posted 14 October 2004 - 08:25 PM

            It would be cool if they were still alive but the fact is that they would take over your party and do every thing them selves

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              Posted 15 October 2004 - 05:37 PM

              el_Sethro, on Oct 14 2004, 11:10 AM, said:

              .....and they also want to take over the world :(

              anyway, I think the story's fine the way it is. 'Nuff said.

              They didnt want to take over the world they wanted to save the world becuz gaia falls was devouring the world and prox and satauros and menardi are from prox so boo yah proved you wrong.

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                Posted 15 October 2004 - 06:15 PM

                Yeah, Saturo's cooler than that whoosie Agatio. But the story wouldn't be so great if Saturos and Mernadi would be alive I think.

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                  Posted 16 October 2004 - 09:47 AM

                  water adept, on Oct 15 2004, 10:07 PM, said:

                  They didnt want to take over the world they wanted to save the world becuz gaia falls was devouring the world and prox and satauros and menardi are from prox so boo yah proved you wrong.


                  yes, and then they planned to take over the world. didn't you listen to ANYTHING they said on Jupiter Lighthouse after beating Isaac?

                  "then Prox will rise from the ashes and the world will fall on its knees before us"

                  or something along those lines. anyway, they very clearly wanted to take over the world.

                  you proved nothing.

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                    Posted 16 October 2004 - 12:32 PM

                    Well, all I know is that Saturos and Menardi shouldn't have been replaced by those sorry excuses for villains, Agatio and Karst. C'mon, they turn good at the end! What is that? So at least one of them should have come back. Two, preferably.

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                      Posted 16 October 2004 - 11:44 PM

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                      -.- i'm starting to wonder if there is already a topic on this...
                      There used to be a topic about this called "Satured of Saturos," but it's definitely been deleted by now.

                      Anyways, I have mixed feelings. If Saturos and Menardi hadn't died, then there wouldn't have been a need for GS2, because they could've continued their journey, and eventually light all the lighthouses on their own.

                      But, I do think that Karst and Agatio were poor replacements, so...I'm still undecided.

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                        Posted 20 October 2004 - 06:15 PM

                        Just of thought of that though.
                        ._.;; if they are a boss, I will fight them. Fighting is...fun. >.>

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                          Posted 21 October 2004 - 05:46 PM

                          Forget Saturos, bring back Menardi! Menardi was cooler. She had better attacks, better lines, and a cooler outfit. She's better then Karst, who was a poor replacement...

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                              Posted 21 October 2004 - 06:01 PM

                            Why not just bring them all back so that way everyone can agree ?

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                              Posted 21 October 2004 - 11:39 PM

                              Hmm...to bring them back. Do that, and I'll just be happy to fight them again! =D

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                                Posted 22 October 2004 - 02:30 PM

                                Bring em all back and it just takes longer to complete the game.

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                                  Posted 22 October 2004 - 08:26 PM

                                  ForteGX, on Oct 16 2004, 10:44 PM, said:

                                  But, I do think that Karst and Agatio were poor replacements, so...I'm still undecided.

                                  For some reason I found them humorous, they try so hard to be evil, but deep down they're just whimps. :wacko:

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                                    Posted 22 October 2004 - 09:26 PM

                                    do you know why Agatio was green though? i mean, he came from prox right? shouldn't he be white like all the other proxians? anyway, on the acctual subject. by saturos and mernardi dying, it led to the thing with karst (mernardi's sister). but, with Agatio, well, to put it in nicer terms, he's a giant idiotic bufoon. although another relative to saturos would have been dumb and repetitive, the second antagonist (aside from karst) should have been someone with at least a decent story, other than: "oh, i'm just here because it's better to travel in pairs." B) :wacko: :huh:

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                                      Posted 24 October 2004 - 01:51 AM

                                      It's a shame that Saturos and Menardi died. They were the coolest bad guys of GS. Agatio sucks. But I think the story sure is cooler the way it's now. Maybe they aren't dead you know...

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                                        Posted 24 October 2004 - 12:42 PM

                                        Well they shouldn't have been killed, butt why weren't they able to tell why they were lighten the lighthouses? :P

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                                          Posted 24 October 2004 - 02:33 PM

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                                          It's a shame that Saturos and Menardi died. They were the coolest bad guys of GS. Agatio sucks. But I think the story sure is cooler the way it's now. Maybe they aren't dead you know...


                                          true. true indeed. yet if they weren't dead, they'd be still trapped somewhere underneath the lighthouse. who here's in favor of dubbing Agatio as the "green oaf" ? ^_^

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                                            Posted 24 October 2004 - 03:02 PM

                                            Zaque, on Oct 24 2004, 04:33 PM, said:

                                            true. true indeed. yet if they weren't dead, they'd be still trapped somewhere underneath the lighthouse. who here's in favor of dubbing Agatio as the "green oaf" ? ^_^

                                            no, not "green oaf", "green Duschbag"

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                                            Posted 24 October 2004 - 04:07 PM

                                            .....Is it even legal for you to say that here? (In the forums I mean)

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                                              Posted 24 October 2004 - 08:07 PM

                                              i don't know, but yeah, that's why i said oaf. ^_^

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                                                Jaken Veina, on Oct 24 2004, 06:07 PM, said:

                                                .....Is it even legal for you to say that here?  (In the forums I mean)

                                                Yes it is.

                                                I refer Agatio as the green goblin most of the time, or becuase of his grey hair, The Old Green Ratbag.

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                                                  Posted 01 November 2004 - 09:20 AM

                                                  Well maybe green is the real color of the Proxeans when they lie in the sun a bit... It's very cold in Prox so thats maybe why thier faces are white.

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                                                      Posted 03 November 2004 - 04:00 PM

                                                    I always thought that the mars clan (in prox) were all dead people (undead) but still alive. :)



                                                    anyone know what i mean ? :huh:

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                                                      Posted 09 November 2004 - 01:39 AM

                                                      Teblor Tribe, on Oct 15 2004, 02:25 PM, said:

                                                      It would be cool if they were still alive but the fact is that they would take over your party and do every thing them selves


                                                      it would be cool if you could play as them tho

                                                      ForteGX, on Oct 17 2004, 05:44 PM, said:

                                                      There used to be a topic about this called "Satured of Saturos," but it's definitely been deleted by now. 

                                                      Anyways, I have mixed feelings.  If Saturos and Menardi hadn't died, then there wouldn't have been a need for GS2, because they could've continued their journey, and eventually light all the lighthouses on their own. 

                                                      But, I do think that Karst and Agatio were poor replacements, so...I'm still undecided.


                                                      i don't get it, i thought agiato and karst were fine. but i liked gs better cos of isaac and ivan.

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                                                        Posted 09 November 2004 - 05:15 AM

                                                        i'm glad they where killed off as they were crap enemies.

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                                                          Posted 09 November 2004 - 10:28 AM

                                                          I was glad to see the back of menardi but i was a little dissappointed to see saturos go. That said i think the storyline benefitted from it so i guess it was a good thing. Plus you need to kill SOMEONE at the end of an rpg otherwise it feels like you lost...or at least i would feel that way.

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                                                              Posted 11 November 2004 - 12:23 AM

                                                            Saturos and Menardi were cool. Agaito and Karst... well... they just weren't the same. :joy:

                                                            I know this is a bit off-topic, but I also kinda wondered... why is Saturos and Agaito BLUE if they use FIRE magic attacks? My friend said they lived in cold areas or something... If they said that in the game, guess like I wasn't paying attention or something...


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                                                              Posted 14 November 2004 - 02:39 AM

                                                              well they lived in prox kinda like the artic, top of the world.
                                                              reckon saturos and alex shoulda teamed up?

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                                                                Posted 19 March 2005 - 04:26 PM

                                                                Or what if after the mars lighthouse is lit after all the junk credits it shows satarous and menardis body on the shore by venus lighthouse it show them talking there faces they both say ........ meaning there alive.

                                                                Please post more when you revive a topic that hasn't been touched 4 months. -ForteGX


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                                                                  Posted 19 March 2005 - 09:54 PM

                                                                  Why were Agatio and Saturos blueish? Becuase fire looks blue when its very VERY hot. Red is when fire is at its coolest, actually.

                                                                  Alex pretty much just jumped in with Saturos and Menardi to use them to light the lighthouses. At the same time, though, they needed a mercury adept so they let Alex come (as annoying as they must've thought he was).

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                                                                    Posted 07 April 2005 - 09:17 AM

                                                                    I especialy think they should go. They just annoyed me. I'm glad They were killed in the end, otherwise, how could Isaac have been able to get his revenge?

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                                                                      Posted 07 April 2005 - 11:49 AM

                                                                      Enoch, on Apr 7 2005, 10:17 AM, said:

                                                                      I especialy think they should go. They just annoyed me. I'm glad They were killed in the end, otherwise, how could Isaac have been able to get his revenge?


                                                                      I agree with Enoch. They are better of dead. Besides I think GS3 should have a realy unexpected enemy like... :) um ... well I cant think of anyone at the moment.

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                                                                        Posted 07 April 2005 - 11:53 AM

                                                                        Yes, when an enemy comes anew, it will be brand spanking new. If GS3 comes out. but that's a different discussion for a different day.

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                                                                          Posted 07 April 2005 - 01:27 PM

                                                                          if they dont make a GS3 they are stupid XD, they could get as popular as FF if they keep going with it, they dont all have to be the same story right?

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                                                                            Posted 16 April 2005 - 09:28 PM

                                                                            Think about it, if Menardi hadn't been killed off, Karst wouldn't have came after you for revenge, and therefore Agatio wouldn't have come either. So yes, Menardi should have died, but I wish Garet would die instead of Saturos and he would become your new Mars adept for that team!

                                                                            Goooo Saturos!

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                                                                              Posted 17 April 2005 - 06:48 AM

                                                                              Thats a random idea, but i guess i would have liked to have seen saturos enter the party rather than keeping garet. Its funny how there is always one character on the team of the good guys who you hate =/

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                                                                                Posted 17 April 2005 - 07:36 AM

                                                                                They're dead people.
                                                                                if being beaten twice (and the second time, as we learn from TLA, is fatal) didn't kill them, then falling down the lighthouse well certainly would. And if that didn't, they probably would have been torn appart by the beacon :P.
                                                                                Sheba and Felix survived because of the sea. Saturos and Menardi fell IN the lighhouse, and would have died from the impact of hitting the bottom. Assuming there is a bottom.
                                                                                And the lighhouse wouldn't revive them, because the psynergy wave had already passed. hence being revived the first time and having enough power to fuse into a dragon.

                                                                                I think the plot of a possible future golden sun would suffer if they brought back dead characters :\.

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                                                                                  Posted 17 April 2005 - 07:48 AM

                                                                                  Link, on Oct 22 2004, 03:30 PM, said:

                                                                                  Bring em all back and it just takes longer to complete the game.


                                                                                  i agree, but it's always good to see the badies return...one time tho, not like Seymour, if anyone played FF X...anways, my opinion... if they hadn't made agatio and karst as lame replacements as they are, then i'd be a happy camper... so, bring back saturos and menardi!...and let us fight alex too!...i always wanted to do that...

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                                                                                    Posted 17 April 2005 - 12:25 PM

                                                                                    They were much better than agatio and karst mind you. Maybe if they had reversed the roles it would have worked?

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                                                                                      Posted 17 April 2005 - 12:57 PM

                                                                                      Saturos and Menardi should not be kicked off.
                                                                                      They were alot smarter the Agatio and Karst. (No offense)
                                                                                      Except for the part were they triggered the Mount Alph boulder.

                                                                                      Saturos and Menardi were fires. Fire and Earth share a link. When they fell in, they fell into were the power of earth was being reborn. There is a 25% chance they servived.

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                                                                                        Posted 17 April 2005 - 01:01 PM

                                                                                        Yeah you could use the fire/earth symbiotics thing to argue they could have survived i guess but then you would have to say that Mars llighthouse would have saved Agatio and Karst from their deaths being that they were directly aligned with it surely?

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                                                                                          Posted 17 April 2005 - 01:09 PM

                                                                                          Ravenblade, on Apr 17 2005, 12:01 PM, said:

                                                                                          Yeah you could use the fire/earth symbiotics thing to argue they could have survived i guess but then you would have to say that Mars llighthouse would have saved Agatio and Karst from their deaths being that they were directly aligned with it surely?


                                                                                          Ya, I guess that would be true. Although Saturos and Menardi were fires, earth could restore them. Their chances went down because of what happened to Venus Lighthouse.

                                                                                          Karst and Agatio have better a better chance of surviving. They seemed to be left with very little energy. They were in their Lighthouse they are directly linked to. The lava on the other hand....I doubt even a Mars adept would survive lava. I would say for them 50/50.

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                                                                                            Posted 17 April 2005 - 02:32 PM

                                                                                            I didn't care what happened to Menardi but Saturos was a great enemy! I think he should have stayed on.

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                                                                                              Posted 17 April 2005 - 11:17 PM

                                                                                              Well, it doesn't matter if they were revived from near death by the beacon, the fall surely would have killed them.

                                                                                              And a think Karst and Agatio died before the beacon was lit.

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                                                                                                Posted 19 April 2005 - 05:05 PM

                                                                                                Yah, I guess thats possible...but, hey. Haven't weirder things happen in GS games?

                                                                                                If they did survive, they would have had almost no chance of getting out before the Lighthouse split.

                                                                                                Saturos was a great enemy. He stayed to fight although he lost half of his strength because of the Mercury Lighthouse. But, I think in the 2nd to final battle Menardi had more life. They shouldn't have been kicked off.

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                                                                                                  Posted 19 April 2005 - 05:57 PM

                                                                                                  lifeform287, on Apr 19 2005, 07:05 PM, said:

                                                                                                  Saturos was a great enemy. He stayed to fight although he lost half of his strength because of the Mercury Lighthouse. But, I think in the 2nd to final battle Menardi had more life. They shouldn't have been kicked off.


                                                                                                  Menardi would have stayed but they needed someone to keep a watch on Jenna and Kraden. Even so they could have just retreated altogether, yet Saturos stayed. I dont think they should have been killed off

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                                                                                                    Posted 20 April 2005 - 07:41 AM

                                                                                                    Saturos and Menradi were both great enemies. Shore Saturos is cooler but Menradi sorta made their team even cooler (if possible :) ). But i think its good they died and that they shouldn't return that would make the game just boring. :)

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                                                                                                    Posted 03 June 2005 - 09:21 AM

                                                                                                    Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.... maybe they could go with the, "defeat changed his ways" type of thing. He might uh.... realize taking over the world was a little overzealous ? :-? I dunno..... just contributing to the topic :-D

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                                                                                                      Posted 03 June 2005 - 07:16 PM

                                                                                                      I think they should have been killed off, otherwise they would have had to come back in GS2, as well as Agatio and Karst.

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                                                                                                        Posted 03 June 2005 - 11:27 PM

                                                                                                        Ill take Karst over Manardi anyday of the week, she's pritty kool but Manardi just shi*s me, every time i see her playing gs1 im like "your screwed now, you and your stupid hair >.<"

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                                                                                                          Posted 04 June 2005 - 07:12 PM

                                                                                                          Dude, Saturos and Menardi were the best! Of course, the whole storyline of TLA would be screwed if they hadn't died, but I wish they would've lived. Killing them makes it hard for me to finish the game everytime I play through.

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                                                                                                            Posted 23 June 2005 - 11:26 AM

                                                                                                            Saturos should be there.... the karst/mernardi figures suck.... can't they just make a saturos + agiato team or something....

                                                                                                            And why not make them playable all together that would be way fun :silence:

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                                                                                                              Posted 24 June 2005 - 07:24 AM

                                                                                                              Why not have a party and bring them all back for a super-battle and not have them change into dragons for a change and just let them go beserk for fun... and bring alex in... I want to wack his ass. He's supposed to be so strong so let's all see -_-

                                                                                                              And when you defeated them all don't let them turn into dragons (or did I just say that... yes I did :unsure: )

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                                                                                                              Posted 25 June 2005 - 05:02 PM

                                                                                                              I think that menardi and saturos should of,.... basicly what the guy above me thinks. Dragons rock!

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                                                                                                                Posted 18 July 2006 - 03:42 PM

                                                                                                                Saturos and Menardi were too cool to die and it would have been fun to fight Saturos, Menardi, Agatio and Karst. and the reason that Felix fights Agatio and Karst is because of conflict of interest due to their relationship with Isaac and the gang and because of their parents


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