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I Can't Beat Saturos And Menardi At The Start.

#1   TheDogWho 

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    Posted 21 April 2004 - 12:22 PM

    Please help. They're really hard.
    I('ve played and completed 2 but not 1 yet.

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      Posted 21 April 2004 - 04:15 PM

      Strategy:

      Isaac: Attack always, but heal when needed (at least 2 people that are seriously injured, then you should heal with Isaac).

      Garet: Attack. Bleh. If your desperate, you can give him some herbs and nuts to heal.

      Ivan: Psynergy. When that runs out, attack. I recommend giving at least 50% of the herbs and nuts to him, since he's the fastest and can save a life that way.

      Mia: Psynergy (Water beats Fire), and heal when necessary. Don't bother with psynergy, she recovers it easily.

      In a nutshell. :lol:

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        Posted 21 April 2004 - 04:36 PM

        do you mean the very start? because you aren't supposed to be able to beat them then. just keep playing (if you did mean the very start).

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          Posted 21 April 2004 - 06:19 PM

          yeah, I was confused about that :huh:
          at the beginning, you just can't win... you can try though (and believe me, I tried many times when I was new to the game :lol: )
          at the end... it's a bit different.

          I prefer unleashing Djinn and using Summons (especially Mia's, though u might want to place a limit so she retains Wish/Wish Well)... then, I usually use Psynergy/Attack...

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            Posted 21 April 2004 - 07:01 PM

            I've always wanted to use Gameshark to see what happens if you beat them at the beginning...

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              Posted 21 April 2004 - 08:01 PM

              I wonder.... Don't you think it'll just bug out the game.. and what about gameshark for GBA how is it?? I've never seen one or even heard about one for GBA..

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                Posted 22 April 2004 - 03:40 PM

                oh, I've heard of doing that! As it turns out, I think the game still continues as if you lost the battle... if I can recall correctly...

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                  Posted 22 April 2004 - 05:42 PM

                  ok... and what about experience and items and etc... how can it continue ...???

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                    Posted 24 April 2004 - 04:23 PM

                    I said I've heard of it Zellgadus, never experienced it...
                    I have never used a Gameshark, and I never will! Goodness, where's the honor in that...?

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                      Posted 24 April 2004 - 09:19 PM

                      Who said anything about it having honor? I just wanted to see what happens... But they don't have the codes needed to try something like that. ^_^

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                        Posted 25 April 2004 - 07:03 PM

                        I hate gameshark. I will only use one if I MASTER a game. Not just beat it once. But still, all the same, I have never used one.

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                          Posted 26 April 2004 - 10:22 AM

                          mjc0961, on Apr 22 2004, 02:01 AM, said:

                          I've always wanted to use Gameshark to see what happens if you beat them at the beginning...

                          It just carries on as if they beat you. I used it on my emulator to see what'd happen (I didn't cheat on the actual game!).

                          Yep, there's no way to beat 'em at the start without cheats (not that it makes any difference). In the penultimate battle, I'd reccomend you unleash level four summons at the start (level 3 for mia), use your most powerful psyenergies with Isaac and Garet afterwards, keep healing with Mia, and Ivan...I suggest djinn then a lvl 4 summon again.

                          reason: Garet and Isaac's psyenergy gets replenished by the beacon before the doom dragon, so you don't need to conserve it so much. Make sure you have a psy crystal or something to replenish Mia's pp! Of course, if you're really strong, like level 45+ you can beat 'em easily just by attacking.

                          Well, those're my tips. :(

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                            Posted 26 April 2004 - 07:40 PM

                            Yeah, A friend just told me the game would continue.

                            Ok, now for the final battle, I just attacked and used psyenergy that best affected them. I.E., Mia's.

                            Found this some where, planet nintendo some where I think...

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                            Put all 7 djinn on standby for Isaac, Garet and Ivan. Put ONLY 'Tonic' on stanby for Mia. At the beggining use judgement/meteor/Thor/Glacier (dont use wish or wish well because Mia's agilty will be very high due to her djinn and ur party will have full health if u use it). In the next round use ur level 3 summons and wish well with Mia. Saturos and Menardi will have less than 300HP at this point so finish them off in the next round with ragnarok, heat wave and Ivan's highest pp move. Saturos and Menardi will go down and then ull have to fight the Fusion Dragon, which is hard because u have no summons. Keep using ragnarok/heat wave/Ivan's highest pp move/wish well. When 'Flash' (mars djinn) is set to garet. Use ragnarok/heat wave/Ivan's highest pp move/SPRITZ (this djinn for mia has the same effect as using wish well). The round after that use ragnarok/FLASH/Ivan's highest pp move/ level 2 water summon (u should have tonic and spritz on standby) which will do a good amount of damage and at the same time Garet's 'flash' will block almost all the damage from the dragon. Keep using 'flash' and summon mars (it will do the same amount of damage as heat wave so just summon it anyway). And keep using the ragnarok/heat wave/Ivan's highest pp move/wish well tactic and keeping using the earth djinn's abbilities and summoning and the dragon should be a peice of cake.


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                              Posted 27 April 2004 - 06:02 PM

                              Yeah I think gamesharks are really stupid. You should TRY to beat the game on your own. If you beat a game using a gameshark, there is no pride in it. Yeah you are not supposed to beat Saturos and Menardi. It is impossible. I read on another forum that if you use gameshark, it still appears that Isaac and Garet "felled"

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                                Posted 27 April 2004 - 06:11 PM

                                Pride! Thank you, Gamingguru! 'Least some people have honor COUGH mjc0961 COUGH so basically, it just continues on, yeah...

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                                  Posted 27 April 2004 - 06:13 PM

                                  -.-;; Dude, I never use a gameshark either, now can you cut off on the pride thing? I used to respect you for that, but you emphasize it too much now.

                                  Anyways... Yeah. I'm thinking I should close this since it's turning into a gameshark thing, so take it to another topic, please.

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                                    Posted 28 April 2004 - 04:35 PM

                                    Lol, Pride is a bad thing...

                                    Anyways, The first battle, I tried my hardest to beat them the fist time I played, and I died and was so ticked...

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                                      Posted 28 April 2004 - 06:47 PM

                                      yeah, sorry about that... I guess I did overemphasize it in that post... got too carried away -_- sorry... (maybe that's another world flaw to include...)

                                      anyway, when I first played GS, I tried my best to beat Saturos and Menardi as well (in the beginning)... I must have done that twenty times before I realized you can't win ^_^ I was SO angry...

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                                        Posted 29 April 2004 - 08:32 AM

                                        You cant beat saturos and menardi at the beggining of the game. its impossible even with gameshark, it just carries on. as for saturos and menardi at the venus light house, well they are really hard........ and none of that probably helped! ^_^

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                                          Posted 29 April 2004 - 09:31 AM

                                          I knew that the game meant for you to die against them in the beggining but I thought that If I leveled up against the monsters before the battle and try my hardest to win then I might get some special item or change the storey line. Never happened!

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                                            Posted 29 April 2004 - 09:57 AM

                                            I've experienced when I used the GameShark for GS:TLA. It completely muffed the game and poor ol me had to go and buy a new one ^_^ -_- :(

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                                              Posted 29 April 2004 - 11:18 AM

                                              That stinks!
                                              It's times like that when I'm glad I don't believe in using the game sharks on new games.

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                                                Posted 01 May 2004 - 10:51 AM

                                                I was jkin I have beaten both games.
                                                But hey interesting topic.

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                                                  Posted 01 May 2004 - 12:32 PM

                                                  Golden Legacy, on Apr 28 2004, 01:11 AM, said:

                                                  Pride! Thank you, Gamingguru! 'Least some people have honor COUGH mjc0961 COUGH so basically, it just continues on, yeah...

                                                  Screw you. Where the **** did I say that I always use Gameshark? I only said that I wanted to use it to see what happens. So if you're too ****ing stupid to read what I said then maybe you shouldn't say anything at all.

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                                                    Posted 01 May 2004 - 05:42 PM

                                                    sorry, didn't mean it... in fact, I'd be willing to delete that post if I can. I assure you, that was just an unusual post...
                                                    and perhaps I was misinterpreting, I don't know...
                                                    so yeah, sorry about that...

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                                                      Posted 04 May 2004 - 06:34 AM

                                                      Anyways, just wondering, what kind of things can you do with a Game Shark for GS.

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                                                        Posted 04 May 2004 - 03:52 PM

                                                        Game Shark...

                                                        I think you are able to increase the stats of any character as high as you can or something... that's how, probably, you can "try and beat" Saturos and Menardi at the start...
                                                        maybe get some rare items...

                                                        I'm just guessing, based on what I've heard and seen about it... sorry.

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                                                          Posted 04 May 2004 - 06:01 PM

                                                          You can:

                                                          1. Edit stats
                                                          2. Edit characters
                                                          3. Edit character slots (making 4 Isaacs! Awesome!!!)
                                                          4. Walk over terrain
                                                          5. Get every single weapon in history

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                                                            Posted 04 May 2004 - 06:22 PM

                                                            You musta been looking somewhere other than I did. (lousy official gameshark site)

                                                            But now I already know what happens, so I don't need to bother with that stupid piece of crap.

                                                            No really. You should see my gameshark. It's pathetic. B)

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                                                              Posted 05 May 2004 - 02:40 PM

                                                              Thanks guys, i might just go out and buy one now.

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                                                                Posted 21 May 2009 - 09:37 PM

                                                                MAYBE IF PEOPLE COULD SEE YOUR PAST YOU WOULD CHANGE YOUR MIND!

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                                                                  Posted 21 May 2009 - 09:42 PM

                                                                  ...revive??

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                                                                    Posted 21 May 2009 - 10:01 PM

                                                                    I don't know I'm tired...

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                                                                      Posted 22 May 2009 - 05:38 AM

                                                                      View PostLegolastom, on May 21 2009, 11:37 PM, said:

                                                                      MAYBE IF PEOPLE COULD SEE YOUR PAST YOU WOULD CHANGE YOUR MIND!

                                                                      gtfo n00b.


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