[DarkIris]

Alright, I was doing a puzzle in Altin in GS1 and i got into a battle....ok..... I win, do a little more of the puzzle...battle.......... :rolleyes: ugh :D ........win, do a little more..battle.......... :huh: :huh: :huh: .........win..battle........ :) ..........win....battle...... :( ...........win............battle :!: :angry: :!: :angry: :!: ...........GAAAAA I CAN"T TAKE IT ANY MORE.......and I pulled out the cartridge -- very dumb -- I put it back in......"Ok Tom calm down, these battles are just getting a little monotonous".....puzzle....puzzle...... battle battle BATTLE BATTLE BaTtLe!!!!!!


thats where I am currently stopped. anyone else think that battles occur too frecuently? dont get me wrong I love the battle system and all, but when ive repeated it 10 times in 1 min. I think there should be less battle more puzzle.......agreed? aaaaaaagreed :joy: :joy: :joy:

[MysticWarrior]

Yeah, it's kinda annoying. I even resulted to buying 30 sacred feathers to avoid them.

[Golden Legacy]

Very annoying, and that's without the Lure Cap on :rolleyes:
but RPG's are like that...

[Blade Lord Lyn]

It would be better if it was an active battle system... like the new Tales game coming out for GCN...

I used Avoid a LOT... you can always make up for it with Wonderbirds later.

[Enoch]

Mabey it's just me but I try to fight every battle that comes to me, but I do agree, they can get a little annoying, especialy if it's against stupid monsters that take a little more time to beat than normal ones and give just as much points. I hate those.

[DarkIris]

I did the same thing you did MysticKnight, except Each character has 30 sacred feathers. And i barely ever fight battles, except against enemies I know dont take too long or give a lot of exp, most of the time I just run from battles.......maybe thats y Babi lighthouse is blowing my underleveled ass out of the water :blink:................stupid monsters :(

[Enoch]

The first time I beat the game, I went for a time record and I totaly avoided the weak monster battles like on the main map. I gave golden feathers to all my charactors like what DarkIris did. One other thing I did is that I tried to get as many djinn as I can while still trying to beat it fast, so I only ran off of djinn power as well. I put each djinn to it's element as well.

[Mia_the_water_adept]

I cant stand battle. they are so annoying when you want to get from one place to another, without having to use up any psynergy on healing or attacks! :angry:

[DarkIris]

I know Mia :D . Like whenever I'm trying to get from one side of a room to another I get in 50 battles :angry:

[Mia_the_water_adept]

Its really annoyin. I wish we could kave like repel like in pokemon( yes i still play that!) you end up running out of psynergy for the boss battles :angry:

[MysticWarrior]

You can get "repel" in Golden Sun. It's called a sacred feather.

[Nick Presta]

In my no random-battle games, I always have to run from a battle.

When you're at such low levels, if you don't succeed in running, you get killed. To combat this, hard reset. Your chances for running are 100%.

[mjc0961]

Avoid sucks. I used it on Tundaria and still got into tons of battles.

[Mia_the_water_adept]

MysticWarrior, on Apr 30 2004, 06:43 PM, said:

You can get "repel" in Golden Sun. It's called a sacred feather.

ahh but they are really crap and it only reduces monster encounters. in pokemon monsters dissapear tottally

[DarkIris]

Ya sacred feathers only provide tempoaray releif, so when I get butt hole gets inflamed I use Preperation H :) http://people.bu.edu/paladin1/Prime_Preparation_H.jpg

[Enoch]

I'm going to ask you never to post that again DarkIris. Anyways, The battles actualy don't annoy me any more. I just keep clicking A whenever I have to fight monsters. They do the work on their own. I hold up that way do to how strong they are now.

[DarkIris]

Alright I promise ot to do that anymore...... :wacko:

[Elliott]

I just noticed this topic. Hell yes. I think that there are more battles in GS1 than is GS2. In Golden Sun, as soon as you finish a battle, you can only take like 5 steps before the next one. In Golden Sun: The Lost Age, it's about 30 steps, anyway, you get my point right. Battles suck. The zelda battle system is waaaaaaaay better (exept with maybe a few more moves).

[Enoch]

I still disagree. The battles occured just as much in the first game as in the second one. But They are still worth fighting. If you don't let them bother you, they won't.

[ETJ]

avoid to prevent battles(+sacred feathers), lure cap to get more- pretty easy really

[Enoch]

That's why I never use feathers or avoid. I always use lure cap. I say, "Bring it on"
And it dousn't hurt oyu to fight weak battles so why avoid them?

[TheOnlyJaz]

I'm with you two, come and have some if you think you're hard enough. It gets me EXP points so what's wrong with it?

[MysticWarrior]

I guess they are only annoying to me when I don't feel like battling. Otherwise, it's cool to see unleashes on poor wimps!

[theblueflames]

Yeah, or when your head hurts, and you finally figure out the puzzle only to get into a huge battle, and forget it :smile: Yes, I have bad memory, but otherwise, battles are just fine.

[Eugine]

The battles are annoying sometimes. You know whats annoying also the EXTREMELY long cutscenes!

[kingofthedead]

i got soooo pissed off wen i had like 80 battles i threw the gba on the ground and it broke. lol then i just bought a sp

[MysticWarrior]

>< Pissed off at what you did and broke a $100 system? XD

[freez_deathliver]

They realy do..... Even when it is a good one like.... the dragon.... Its soooooo strong that it takes awhile to kill!! What a blow off...... Wish Well works well though....

[Sky Dragon]

well i like fighting the battles cuz it levels you up and makes it easier to fight the bosses

[Primal]

liek omg, battles are so much more annoying in GS1, GS2 battles were less and better, in GS2 there are so many and they are twice as hard!
*goes and cools off*

[Sky Dragon]

to tell the truth, i've never used a scarced feather or avoid, i fought every battle i had, it makes fighting bosses much easier

[ForteGX]

Yeah, I don't avoid battles either...how else can you gain experience?

[Sky Dragon]

i never avoid battles, but i never go train in the wild, i do that at the end cuz i know i can get a lot more EXP w/ less battles (a.k.a. wonderbirds)

[ForteGX]

Yeah, but there are no Wonder Birds in GS1, are there?
There are Phoenixes in the Mars Lighthouse in GS:TLA. But no Wonder Birds in GS1.

[Sky Dragon]

nope there aren't but there is the tempest lizard whom i killed over and over again...so many times...hint* he gives you a potion for every time you kill him and all my characters maxed out hand had to drop them

[ForteGX]

Defeating Saturos and Menardi and then losing to the Fusion Dragon gets you 6000 exp.

Though, it's not enough...

[Sky Dragon]

yeah but you have to go through all the dialogue and stuff, takes too long. i prefere fighting the tempest lizard cuz i kill him in two turns

[ForteGX]

Yeah, but that way you have to go through Suhalla desert over and over. So it's pretty much the same: 1/6 of the time, 1/6 of the exp.

[Sky Dragon]

nope, it's 1/5 the EXP cuz the tempest lizard gives you 1200, and plus you get a free potion

[ForteGX]

Your right...I hate math.

If only you could gain experience in the Battle Arena. How awesome would that be?

[Someone Else]

It really does, 'specialy in GS1, it doesn't seem to happen as often in GS2.

[ForteGX]

Annoying as they get; you just can't afford to flee from a single battle.

[Dullahan]

i never avoid battles, the higher level you are the easier the game is.

[Kaj]

I don't think the batles are annoying att all. Somtimes, battles are the same, and it goes like: bash A, A, A, and A. But still I don't think it's annoying. And how will you gain experience if you don't fight??

[ForteGX]

Well, random battles aren't as bad if they offer a nice reward (1000+ exp. at Venus Lighthouse, rare item drops, etc.).

[Mallick]

Yeah I love those kinds of battles but the others get pretty annoying somtimes!!In my first file I was only like level 24 and then I tried battling Saturos and Menardi then beat them but died first round second battle!so I trained to the top level!!!

[Cosmos]

With the Tempest lizard method, why does everybody use Suhalla desert?! You can let the pink tornado take you to Crossbone Isle, then kill the lizard. Then you just enter the main area at Crossbone, leave, and he's back. No long desert travels, just a short distance across the world map.

[Midoriko_Tashim]

That is an annoying scenario. Fortunatly for me I never get a random battle while doing any puzzles.

And since my friends and I plan on making our own 1-4 player rpg for xbox, ps2 (multitap req.), gamecube, and gba (link cable) with and active battle system so each player can do what they want when they want in a battle.

For example you can run around in circles if you want. or if you a wm you can stand back healing your allies while they do the attacking. also you can go any where on the world map at anytime without dragging your allies along.

so you can level up alone (you get more exp cause you alone).

Does that sound like a good battle system.

Of course our random battles will happen often but not whilst your doing a puzzle in any of the dungeons.

(however in the middle of a battle new monsters can attack you from behind at anypoint so watch your back.)

game release date. sometime in 2009-2010

[Kaj]

In my opinion, the battles aren't annoying, just none of them! I like fighting in the game, and I don't think it's getting boring, not even a single fight.

[kate]

sometimes if yur trying to get somewhere, the battles can kinda be ugh, especially if yur in a low level place where you know that beating the dude will only give you like 2 exp. of course if they really annoy you, you can just run away (chicken, lol)

[Gattaca]

the battles r funn! they usually only get really annoying if yur already pissed at the game for some reason/.... but normally it's interesting.....

[ForteGX]

I also like using random battles to experiment with new items or classes.

[kate]

yah, like if yur trying to figure out which combo of djinn works best on who, it helps to be able to walk two feet and have a battle to use yur new psynergys in

[water master]

A true fan wouldnt let it get to him/her, and the battles is one of the things that deffines an RPG.

[Alex the Adept]

DarkIris, on Apr 29 2004, 07:10 PM, said:

Alright, I was doing a puzzle in Altin in GS1 and i got into a battle....ok..... I win, do a little more of the puzzle...battle.......... :smile: ugh :) ........win, do a little more..battle.......... :huh: :huh: :huh: .........win..battle........ :!: ..........win....battle...... :( ...........win............battle :!: :angry: :!: :angry: :!: ...........GAAAAA I CAN"T TAKE IT ANY MORE.......and I pulled out the cartridge -- very dumb -- I put it back in......"Ok Tom calm down, these battles are just getting a little monotonous".....puzzle....puzzle...... battle battle BATTLE BATTLE BaTtLe!!!!!!
thats where I am currently stopped. anyone else think that battles occur too frecuently? dont get me wrong I love the battle system and all, but when ive repeated it 10 times in 1 min. I think there should be less battle more puzzle.......agreed? aaaaaaagreed :joy: :joy: :joy:

Learn to respect battle. It can be the only thing to keep you from dying against a boss later on.

[Toasty]

QUIT NECROPOSTING!! D; If you really want to raise your post count that much, do it in a way that doesn't break the rules. This topic is months old, and not of any real importance. Please, try and refrain from doing this again.

[Split Infinity]

Toasty, he's fine as long as he has something constructive to say.

I agree with you Alex, although some might argue that battles should be avoidable if low on HP and/or patience. FFXII, for example, allows the player to see potential enemies, so that they may attack them at will.

[Toasty]

Split, my point is that the topic's already been discussed. There's really no point in discussing it anymore. That, and he does/did this constantly.

[LordJay134]

Welll... they get annoying but imagine facing Saturos (at the start in the Mercury Lighthouse) at level 10...
Well... my prediction is... you're f**king dead lol

[Alex the Adept]

Split Infinity, on Mar 29 2007, 03:25 AM, said:

Toasty, he's fine as long as he has something constructive to say.

I agree with you Alex, although some might argue that battles should be avoidable if low on HP and/or patience. FFXII, for example, allows the player to see potential enemies, so that they may attack them at will.

You have teh point tere.

[Saiph Charon]

i wish someone would make like a program/game, where there would be the dungeons from GS programmed in it, a fully animated character sprite, and all the outside-battle-psynergy (+functioning objects which can be manipulated by that of course) etc

if u get what i mean =/

a GS game with just all the dungeons and their puzzles to solve lol
that's not going to happen though, and it even wouldnt be worth for someone to do such a thing for a few fans who are lazy and bored by some battles

lalalala.....whatever

[Drizzy Drake]

water master, on Jul 20 2006, 07:45 AM, said:

A true fan wouldnt let it get to him/her, and the battles is one of the things that deffines an RPG.

Alex the Adept, on Mar 22 2007, 06:51 PM, said:

Learn to respect battle. It can be the only thing to keep you from dying against a boss later on.

Saiph Charon, on Jan 15 2008, 05:05 PM, said:

i wish someone would make like a program/game, where there would be the dungeons from GS programmed in it, a fully animated character sprite, and all the outside-battle-psynergy (+functioning objects which can be manipulated by that of course) etc

if u get what i mean =/

a GS game with just all the dungeons and their puzzles to solve lol
that's not going to happen though, and it even wouldnt be worth for someone to do such a thing for a few fans who are lazy and bored by some battles

lalalala.....whatever

Ugh, ughh, ughhhhhhhhhhhhh. *Twitches* So, many, useless, bumps. NOOOOOOOOOO. Why oh why must this topic have been bumpbed, especially 2 years old, then 5 monthes, then another 7 monthes. Most useless bumps in the history of the world. Well, maybe not Saiph's, but still, they are kind of useless bumps.

[slomz]

Saiph Charon, on Jan 15 2008, 04:05 PM, said:

i wish someone would make like a program/game, where there would be the dungeons from GS programmed in it, a fully animated character sprite, and all the outside-battle-psynergy (+functioning objects which can be manipulated by that of course) etc

if u get what i mean =/

a GS game with just all the dungeons and their puzzles to solve lol
that's not going to happen though, and it even wouldnt be worth for someone to do such a thing for a few fans who are lazy and bored by some battles

lalalala.....whatever

I don't know. Golden sun has grabbed my attention like no other game before. It is by far my most favorite game ever. To make a third-party clone of a golden sun game incorporating puzzles like the originals did would depress me :P.

[Drizzy Drake]

slomz, on Jan 16 2008, 04:37 PM, said:

I don't know. Golden sun has grabbed my attention like no other game before. It is by far my most favorite game ever. To make a third-party clone of a golden sun game incorporating puzzles like the originals did would depress me :P.

But if some random person made jsut parts of it, for the puzzles, without the battles, that might be fun. Liek a flash game, or something.

[Saiph Charon]

like skidzorz said, i meant something like a flash game, not a real game...that would be stupid of course.

[IDK]

wow, does everyone get into so many battles? i usually have to walk around ALOT just to get into one battle. i walked around for almost a minute one time looking for one.

[Judgement]

No, what's really annoying is when you have a boss fight that begins with an hour-long conversation (Venus Lighthouse, anybody?). And if you die in this battle, you have to go through the entire conversation all over again!

Edit: Sry about the bump, I didn't notice the date.

[Jenna]

Mm, I don't think they're that bad. I usually look around for them... I suppose that's what Sacred Feathers are for, if they bother you.

[MaznAzn]

Yeah they are, but at the same time, they're essential for boosting your stats for the big boss battles. Oh, and like the Venus lighthouse, I think you can press select or something and it will skip the whole scene. But I can't remember B)

Sacred feathers were my friends through the altin mines XD.

[Split Infinity]

People who criticize random battles should not be playing an RPG. That's like saying you hate having to shoot people in a FPS.

[kate]

avoid was the best thing that ever happened to me. Mostly it becomes annoying after you've gotten almost to the end and you go back to do sidequests or gather djinn or something. That way the experience doesn't even make a dent, but thankfully avoid works like magic for those situations.

and yeah split is totally right, but anything that repetitive does get annoying. I didn't mind at all in ffx, but in ffxii they were so annoying because you had to fight so many and then immediately the next area you went to you'd be so outclassed. grr.

[PDM]

Split Infinity, on Feb 26 2008, 12:53 AM, said:

People who criticize random battles should not be playing an RPG. That's like saying you hate having to shoot people in a FPS.

So the point of an RPG is to walk around the world fighting random battles? Damn.

[Neptune]

I don't like the battles. I just like to go around towns talking and going on with my quests. But some battles are fun, like Tret or the games of Tobi. :o

[GFGLegendary]

No random bats pl0x. If you're playing on a VBA emulator you have to use the codebreaker codes, if you are on the handheld, then you either have an AR/CBA/GSA and can do it, or can't.

[J-roz]

i can't really say anything more than yes all the battles are annoying :)

[Drizzy Drake]

That definetly justified necroing this topic.

[Swedishfish]

Yeah i hate that too

[Nosferatu]

Dipset, on Jul 22 2008, 05:42 PM, said:

That definetly justified necroing this topic.

Why are you necroing old topics my good lost poster?