[Eugine]

What is it that we, the members are doing wrong here? Do you think we can change it? Do you think we can change the downward spiral to a upward one?

How can we bring back the old members here into posting more, into inviting people here, into just coming here?

We are not doing enough, our little community is dying and we all know that. What can we do to BRING BACK THE SPICE??!

[MysticWarrior]

We need to get more promising members, that's what =P Or bring back the old ones. How can we bring them back? Hmm... you know, I have no idea. It goes in a circle. Inactive forums make members leave, members leaving makes inactive forums. =/ I think the real question is how to get out of that loop.

[Nemphtis]

How about starting by posting in my poetry and comic topics? That will get you some extra points to go to Heaven and stuff. Or you can always try and... *gasp* make a topic in the games forum that doesn't involve a Nintendo game... Or even make some slightly original topics in the off-topic section, take it easy on the rules so people feel more free and feel they have more space to browse the place and maybe even start a points system where popular and good members are given 'Fame' like on Maple and suckers that make the forums miserable don't get ****.

[Ravenblade]

The only thing that will make any difference is adding another game to GSSF's site. Another RPG or something. If we broadened it into a larger RPG site =/

However, that isnt ever going to happen. There is very little to be done about this problem, i guess overall, it was always going to end like this as Camelot havent released any new GS games.

Aside from that, i dont think there is anything the members can do.

[Nemphtis]

It's tough because any ideas we give Max doesn't or can't do. If we opened up to other RPG on the GBA or the DS then we'd be a bigger website, or as I'd call it a Multi-RPG Nintendo Fansite. It will take alot of Maxes time but if he gets some good help he might even earn some good bucks from it. ;D

[l3lueMage]

If he has the right build on his site he can easily make it so the forums change into a multi RPG forum and the site changes into a multiRPG site also where they give the info screenshots and all that to RPG's also...and he can make it so people submit so it wont take all of his time to write them all...

[Nemphtis]

Alot of people here have good grammar, all we need to do is like you said allow users to submit reviews and if Max aproved the review it automatically gets posted up. The only way this place will grow is if we do something to make it grow, not sit here scratching our beards (sorry kids who havn't hit puberty) waiting for the place to get deserted.

[l3lueMage]

He can do that, then he can stuff all the GS related topics into a subtopic and add topics for games as more games get added...and sub topics for the topics of the game I guess...and seriously, if he fixes this up, then to keep the forums alive, take away the common rooms and stop the spam, that also gets rid of users, no one likes to join a forum that posts only in one area, and everything there is pointless crap x.x; except for us that were here before that happened :wacko:

[Nemphtis]

See, this is a good idea. Now let's wait until Max reads it and posts a paragraph about how it won't work or why it won't work. :wacko:

[pHantOm]

Step 1:Pick a game you would all like to play
Step 2:Make a clan with a nonlame name
Step 3:Recruit
Step 4:Have the recruits recruit.
Step 5:Enjoy


Works every time, only issue, your all nintendo people and as we all know Nintendo+Online=N/A

[Golden Djinn13]

The only thing that I that I think will work here is if we (like others have said) add
another game besides golden sun. Since there hasn't been a new release to the game (just yet)
I think we should add another. A game that is really popular.

[Isaac702]

A more long-term solution would be just to wait for a new golden sun game ( if there is any ).
But that would take a while and would be tedious in the meantime.

But adding another game to the forums would be a good stopgap idea maybe a usrealsed game coming out in a month or two to draw people here than to another site that would be setup after the release.

[Nemphtis]

Are you retarded? Waiting for another GS game is what you call a long-term solution? The only long thing about it is how long we'd have to freaking wait.

[Golden Djinn13]

The only thing is, WE DON'T HAVE TIME!!!!!!!!!!!! All the members could leave
by the time they actually decide to officially announce the game, then take another
6 months before they delay it another 2 days, then release it.

[Nemphtis]

End of the day, it's up to Max what he decides to do. The problem is, whatever he's doing about it at the moment isn't working.

[Eugine]

Max will need staff. Well, he always say "I don't have the time!", that's why there's staff for... All he could simply do is just check the validity of the pages and make sure the content is reasonably good...

Just one thing I'd like to specify really... I think the game should be Nintendo related...

[Nemphtis]

The lack of time thing is weird, because why would you start another website if you don't have the time for your current one?

[Eugine]

Well, from what I know he started it with his web designing pals. Plus [insert game] (Weird he wants it to be kept secret!) is a really neat game, I'd trade a GS website for it lol :wacko:

[Max]

Responding to the latest piece first: I did not create a new site per-se. I am simply the coder/webmaster for another site that I'm doing with my web design group. Other people write the content, and I just build the infrastructure so that they can post it themselves and it appears like they want it to on the site (PHP/MySQL stuff). That really doesn't take a whole lot of time in the long run.

But concerning this topic's main thrust: As I've said multiple times in the past, if someone wants to create a site about another RPG game, I would be more than happy to host it as a subdomain and create a "mini-network" of sites. Noone has taken me up on that yet. I don't have the personal interest in any other RPGs currently as I don't have time to play videogames much, but I know you all do.

Forum-wise, specific suggestions for new games would be appreciated. I dont think Nick or the moderators would object to adding a new subforum category for other RPG games if that is what you all want. Just give us some specifics (name, platform) and I don't think there would be any reason to deny it if there is interest.

[l3lueMage]

Well I think you should add a Final fantasy section =D
and then also add a new area for other consoles...I still say take away the commons room though and reinforce the rules better also...

[Eugine]

Covering a game/series that was out long and popular wouldn't be a good idea.

For instance Final Fantasy, Pokemon, Zelda all those stuff shouldn't be here, they are too much of those sites already.

[Mallick]

Max, on Oct 26 2005, 06:47 PM, said:

I don't have time to play videogames much, but I know you all do.

I think Max just insulted all the users of his forums. ;)

Any new sub-sites put up, I'd be willing to help with. Content, or just coding of >_> SIMPLER pages.

[Eugine]

I was going to say something, but I'll just stay quiet.

I really don't know any good games coming out soon or is out that isn't popular and is Nintendo related. Any ideas?

[Someone Else]

I have hardly the time to play games myself, I only come here when I'm procrastinating.

Anyway, think along the lines of good-and-successful-but-not-yet-well-known RPGs. GS was a great game that had pretty good success but doesn't seem to be terribly well known. I actually have two friends that have played it.

[Max]

It is a pretty well known and accepted fact that GS and GS:TLA are the best RPGs on the Gameboy Advance, and have been in pretty much every "game recommendation" list that I have ever seen.

PDM, I wasn't insulting people, I was just noting that alot of people here play video games, and so they would know better than I would what games they are interested in.

I agree that doing a site/subforum on established, well-known franchies like FF, Zelda, and Pokemon would be a bad idea. But if anyone can think of another good game I'd be happy to hear you.

[Nick Presta]

I don't have much time or money to play video games anymore. However, if someone wanted to create a site or had an idea about a site (and was willing to work with me), I would create it for them, no problem.

I wouldn't mind a new forum section but FF and the like have been done to death.

[Mallick]

Max, on Oct 27 2005, 06:50 PM, said:

It is a pretty well known and accepted fact that GS and GS:TLA are the best RPGs on the Gameboy Advance, and have been in pretty much every "game recommendation" list that I have ever seen.

PDM, I wasn't insulting people, I was just noting that alot of people here play video games, and so they would know better than I would what games they are interested in.

I agree that doing a site/subforum on established, well-known franchies like FF, Zelda, and Pokemon would be a bad idea. But if anyone can think of another good game I'd be happy to hear you.

Max, I know you weren't insulting people, let me quote myself.

PDM said:

;)

[l3lueMage]

Other games...Fable...Maple story O:
Harvest Moon...GunBound, Lineage, and stuff D:

[Eugine]

WOW. You know how not to be constructive PDM.

We decided that we should cover a new game... Maple Story I don't know, MW is the only MW veteran here really with a lvl 70-something character, the others and me, aren't too *WOW* at Maple Story yet.

[Nick Presta]

Uh, there is already an amazing Maple Story website, hosted by my host;

http://www.hidden-street.net/

[l3lueMage]

geez your host sucks cause it aint loading XD

[Mallick]

Eugine, on Oct 28 2005, 04:35 AM, said:

WOW. You know how not to be constructive PDM.

We decided that we should cover a new game... Maple Story I don't know, MW is the only MW veteran here really with a lvl 70-something character, the others and me, aren't too *WOW* at Maple Story yet.

... I have a level 74 Bandit, fewl. And I might not have been that constructive, but I wasn't breaking the rules.


'Sides, I know enough about Maple story to help with a site.


Nick, don't forget about Sleepywood.net. Biggest Maple story forum. Evar.

[Eugine]

Maple Story isn't worth it IMO. A Maple Story sub-site wouldn't be a smart idea simply because there's so much of wealthy community already. The Maple Story topic is even dying here at GSSF.

P.S. I never said you broke the rules and you don't have that character in your signature, I used that as my data source.

[MysticWarrior]

nick1presta, on Oct 28 2005, 04:03 PM, said:

Uh, there is already an amazing Maple Story website, hosted by my host;

http://www.hidden-street.net/

YOU hosted THE hidden-street?! O_o Well, let's not talk about it anymore. Goodness knows how many topics are infected by it already.

[pHantOm]

Looks like nick ran the ub0rh4x.exe file.....oh boy!

XD LOL

I think a maple story subforum would do ok, but honestly how much is there to talk about that hiddenstreet hasnt done? They freaking own lol.

[Someone Else]

Max, on Oct 27 2005, 04:50 PM, said:

It is a pretty well known and accepted fact that GS and GS:TLA are the best RPGs on the Gameboy Advance, and have been in pretty much every "game recommendation" list that I have ever seen.

Heh, but most of my acquaintances have never heard of it, or just haven't played it.

And I had no idea that our very own n1p hosted Hidden Street! :P

Anyway, onto Maple Story. Well, Maple Story isn't all the Massive considering it's a Massive Multplayer Online RPG... think about it. There's no story, no plot, it wouldn't do very well if we gave it it's own sub-forum. The topic I created is enough.

[Nemphtis]

nick1presta, on Oct 28 2005, 01:26 AM, said:

I don't have much time or money to play video games anymore. However, if someone wanted to create a site or had an idea about a site (and was willing to work with me), I would create it for them, no problem.

I wouldn't mind a new forum section but FF and the like have been done to death.

Why don't you help me make a website instead you knob-jockey?

[Eugine]

OMG. This topic isn't going anywhere :P

Can we atleast try to do something positive in this topic?

[Mallick]

He doesn't host it, I'm pretty sure.

I think what he meant was he used the same host as HS.net. Correct me if I'm wrong, please, Nick.

[Eugine]

Yeah I think also PDM. I don't think Nick actually hosts it, I think he is hosted by the same host as HS.

But anyways, I tried looking for a game for the DS/GBA/GC/PC or something, but I can't. Can anyone help me locate the Advance Search option on the new Gamespot version? XD

[Nick Presta]

Yeah, both me and HS use bihira hosting.

I couldn't host a site that large with that much traffic. It currently uses over 600GB of bandwidth a month and is hosted on a VPS.

[Nemphtis]

I used to hang out on the HS forums alot but since I can't play MS for a while I took a break from there. I like MapleTip's website better, they are alot more popular but I prefer HS since the community is smaller and tighter.

[Eugine]

...And the topic just died...

So no one has any idea how we can bring back the spice? Oh well, we are doomed.

[pHantOm]

Stop being such a drama queen. :o

I got a few new members on the way so thats a tad bit of good news. This I consider is a social forum, not a Golden Sun forum.

[Someone Else]

Eugine, on Nov 8 2005, 04:47 PM, said:

...And the topic just died...

So no one has any idea how we can bring back the spice? Oh well, we are doomed.

I thought we decided that this forum or some other site could cover another game?

[Eugine]

Yes, but what game?

[Izar]

To bring back the Spice, I feel there are some things are needed:

Kick the abusers out.
Bring some old features back, some old forum games.
Get back to being normal
Bring more Golden Sun Stuff, if anything, that's what the forum is about.

[Sea of Time]

What about Fire Emblem? The series is starting to lift off with PoR, and there may be more games in the future!

[Eugine]

http://feplanet.net

They already control the game, no other site will ever pass them anytime soon. I say a game that's not out in US yet, but is out in Japan or coming out in Japan soon.

[Golden Djinn13]

Just to name a few...

-Legend of Zelda
-Mario
-Donkey Kong
- and even though its not nintendo, everyone loves it...Final Fantasy

Those are my ideas, I'll probably think of more later.

[Someone Else]

Dudes, but there are so many sites on those games already.

We're just going around in circles with this topic.

[Eugine]

I don't reccomend covering those popular games GD13... I say something new...

*puts on thinking cap*

[Sea of Time]

How can we say that we can't pass the popularity of feplanet.net, (which we obviously can't) and then suggest we do popular series like Zelda and Mario? I think we're sending and getting mixed messages here.

[Golden Djinn13]

We really need to think of something quick if we want to keep the forum alive, and something that I think
needs to be done, is to clean up the forums a bit, like get rid really old topics and maybe get rid of some
of those users that don't come here anymore.

[Eugine]

>>

<<

>>

We want the forum to get popular but you want to delete members :SHOCKED!:

[Golden Djinn13]

Eugine, on Nov 16 2005, 05:41 PM, said:

>>

<<

>>

We want the forum to get popular but you want to delete members :SHOCKED!:

Yeah, I didnt explain myself. I mean we should delete those people that post one day, and the ones we know that are definately not coming back.

[Sea of Time]

Something else.

We can't revive old topics, but when we try to make a new topic that has the same subject as an unrevivable topic, it's not allowed! I say get rid of the old topics, because I think we're running out of things to talk about. There's lots of new blood on this forum that should be able to vote on those old topics that can't be revived.

[Eugine]

Actually no SoT. You can remake topics as long as the topic is long gone. If it's like on page two or something, just revive. If its like on the last page, make new topic...

[Max]

I keep hearing people say "delete old topics and user" in regards to "reviving the forum." Please think about this for a moment. What effect exactly would that have on the livelyhood of these forums?

Having extra members registered that don't post doesn't do anything one way or the other, so deleting those users is pointless and could potentially be deleting users who actually do visit yet hardly post.

Having old topics is good as an archive to see what has been discussed in the past. As Eugine stated and has been said in multiple topics over the past several months, there is nothing wrong with posting a new topic about the same subject as an older topic. We just don't want more than one topic on a given subject matter being active at the same time, as that is counter-productive.

So if you have a suggestion, please think about what you are saying before you say it, or at least give some pragmatic, practical explanations.

[Elliott]

Rather than trying to think up new ideas to bring in and keep members, why not take a look first at the problems.

Publicity: Where are GSS's affiliates? I noticed a while ago a lot had gone down. GSS just isn't getting the publicity it used to, and with GSW on hold, it's at an all time low.

Immaturity: The reason I don't come here nearly as often as I used to is because of the level of immaturity. Petty little squabbles, people posting like total retards, and topics that just don't interest me.

Over strict moderation: Post once under 5 words, post something a little off topic, go past the swear filter and you have a mod jumping down your thread. Practice the silent rules. If you don't know what they are look in the moderator discussion forum. Regular members like me shouldn't be able to see rule breakers being dealt with. Rule breaking posts should be deleted and the offender PERSONAL MESSAGED, not informed in the thread.

Lack of updates: I honestly can't remember the last time there was a content update. Instead of ****ing around thinking up new games to cover, DO SOMETHING. The forum is dying, and posting in this thread is doing sweet **** all. It's been up for 3 weeks and NOTHING has happened.

Maybe dealing with issues like these, and not posting in this topic will actually do some good; because for all the ideas and suggestions, nothing has changed, and things are still getting worse.

Now to anyone who says something like “what are you doing to help Agatio”. I say this: nothing. I don’t care really, but what I just said had to be said because nothing is happening.

[Eugine]

The forum was extremely strict last year, even stricter than now and it was extremely successful and they never carried out silent ruling. So saying moderators ruling are the problem, nope.

What I agree with you though is the lack of updates, the site needs some updates. That's one of the main reason thats killing the site.

This post has been edited by Eugine: 18 November 2005 - 02:23 PM

[Elliott]

The moderators can be strict, but 'moderating' on the forums is stupid and discourages others from posting. Do it in private through personal messages.

[Sea of Time]

I couldn't have put it better than how Agatio said it. There must be something we can add to GSSF without changing the overall "Golden Sun theme" that we have here. Perhaps adding a new forum, or just releasing GSW in another server test.

The trend seems to show that after a GSW server test, GSSF's activity goes up. Max did say he would try to release it in it's current form, and I'm fine with that. Eventually, though, Agatio is right, we have to do something or this place will die.

[Someone Else]

Alright.

I think having another co-admin to help Max and n1p make updates would be a good idea. I'd offer to co-admin but unfortunately I don't know much about, well, HTML stuff. Max, it wouldn't hurt to be a little more active and post if you could. It's just that if you post, it helps to feel like you're not losing interest in your forums. But I understand if you're busy.


New affiliates would help get GSSF known again. A lot of Golden Sun fans seem to like Fire Emblem and vice versa, so I think affiliating with an active Fire Emblem site would be a good move. So what if they're different games.


As far as coverage for a new game, I think Animal Crossing is a good one. Don't laugh at me. I'm pretty enthusiastic about Animal Crossing DS coming out in December. >_>;

[Nemphtis]

Why don't we just make a new domain name and change the design of GSSF to be a multi Nintendo-based RPG site. We can have coverage on games such as Baten Kaitos, Baten Kaitos 2, Tales of Symphonia etc. There's a nice bunch of RPG's for the GC we could cover. But the site won't be cool if you call it GSSF, so it's better appearance-wise to make a new domain.

Another idea would be to make a new domain, let's say for example the domain was called "RPG Kingdom" and the url was www.rpgkingdom.com as an example of course. Each game section has a sub-domain dedicated to it, like a network of mini-fansites. So a mini-fansite for GS, Baten Kaitos or any other games we wish to cover, even Fire Emblem. Basically we can vote on which games our community is most interested in or may be interested in when the title is released and create a mini-fansite for that.

[Someone Else]

^ I think that's a great idea. Much more specific than the other vague, similiar suggestions.

[Eugine]

Sounds good, we already have a fanbase and a super-smart-admin to code up those pages... but would he want to spend money to buy a new domain?

[Nemphtis]

Just to elaborate on what I just said;

Let's say for example we want to make a Fire Emblem site to add to our 'network' of mini fansites. The url would be www.fireemblem.rpgkingdom.com or something. So each game has it's own subdomain and in that subdomain a custom layout based on that games with user submitted guides/FAQ's and information that the members at the forum have put together which is then checked by one of the admins (I'm sure we can get a whole bunch of admins for these projects) and if aproved submitted into the sites content. This way Max doesn't actually have to write anything if he doesn't want to, all he has to do with the other staff members is to read through the submission and aprove it and stick it on the site.

Not only will it draw in various users since we will have fans of Fire Emblem , Tales of Symph, and other RPG's coming and joining in the growing network of community's but it will surely bring this place alot more life. We can choose to put a link on each fansites homepage to a single forum, so every fansite in the network is linked to one single big forum where all the fans can hang out.

EDIT: A new domain only costs about $12 a year

This post has been edited by Anubis: 19 November 2005 - 09:47 AM

[Someone Else]

Didn't/doesn't Max have a Half Life 2 site? He could put that in our little "rpg kingdom" place.

It sounds like a good project to me. I don't see the reason to limit it just Nintendo games though, since Nintendo really only has a handful of good RPGs.

[Nemphtis]

I only mentioned the Nintendo part because I assumed you fools don't play PS2 or Xbox or anything that doesn't have a fat stamp saying NINTENDO on it. I'm just offering the basic concept, feel free to comment on anything you would like to add to the idea. there's a ton of great RPG's out there, there is also alot of RPG's such as Baten Kaitos which are great games but don't have many (if any) decent fansites for them. We could make a Kingdom Hearts site if we don't have to stick to Nintendo, or even a Fable site if we have any Xbox players around, although there is already a Fable fansite out there.

[Eugine]

The HL2 site would never get transferred over here since it's its own entity made from other people and such.

[Sea of Time]

This sounds like a good idea, I'm decent at making forums for any or all of these sites so if a forum is to be made, I can help with skinning it and the like.

If this idea doesn't go through and a co-admin is needed for GSSF, I'm here to help. I have decent knowledge of HTML, even though you don't need the knowledge for the small jobs needed to be done around here. So, I'm on the map if anyone needs my help.

Oh yeah, I check in often, if that's any credential.

[Nemphtis]

Well, if you want the idea to work then you need to help out by giving more ideas and feedback to make it more likely to work. Let's elaborate on this idea and see how great we can help it become, thus making the reality closer and closer.

[Eugine]

SoT can I see any of your work? Well, if you're about to show me FE Refuge, I'll have to say invisionfree does not show any skills these days.

I know Anubis can be a good staff since I always visit his site and read all those topics on his forum as a guest.

People here I think can help... :
Anubis, Agatio, Andross, um... Toad King... Nick, Max... MW (Damn good at making content!).... Yeh, that's all I've actually seen work of. Anyone else like SoT (who I think seems fairly talented in those games mentioned) can submit content.

This post has been edited by Eugine: 19 November 2005 - 05:33 PM

[Sea of Time]

You insult me and then you redeem yourself by saying FER is good. Can anyone explain how IPB is different from IF, so I have an idea?

[Someone Else]

Had a bad day, Eugine?

By the way at the mod issue.

Quote

The forum was extremely strict last year, even stricter than now and it was extremely successful and they never carried out silent ruling. So saying moderators ruling are the problem, nope.

I think the mods still need to still lighten up a little more overall. Act more like a friend rather than a moderator. We also need to do something about the Golden Legacy issue. He needs to come back soon, and if he doesn't he should be booted off the Staff and/or replaced with someone new.

[Eugine]

Oh well, I never aimed at insulting. I never said FER was good/bad.
What I said was that you seem knowledgable in those games so you can submit content, or become staff for the matter. Also I said anyone can set up invisionfree so it does not show any skill these days.

About IF and IPB, read up on both their sites to see some comparisons

EDIT:
GL... Is he dead? This is something I think Max needs to do something about.

This post has been edited by Eugine: 19 November 2005 - 05:41 PM

[Nemphtis]

Eugine, on Nov 19 2005, 10:44 PM, said:

I know Anubis can be a good staff since I always visit his site and read all those topics on his forum as a guest.

A lurker, eh. You should stop being lame and register, fo' show.

Sea_of_Time, on Nov 19 2005, 11:15 PM, said:

You insult me and then you redeem yourself by saying FER is good. Can anyone explain how IPB is different from IF, so I have an idea?

En Shorte...

InvisionFREE: For cheap people.
InvisionPOWER: For people who have DA POWA of money, and stuff.

The only good thing about IF is the fact that there are so many cheap people online thus there are so many more MODs for it. But at the end of the day IPB offers alot more in the long run.

[Max]

I understand that my not posting alot doesn't reflect well on the "health" of the forum, but it is not for lack of enthusiasm, it's simply a lack of time. Let me think: do I come to the forums, or do I do school work, or do I go to my job and make money? Not really a hard choice, now is it? I wish I could come here more often, but that's truly not an option.

I have said countless times that if someone wants to make a new site, that I would be willing to host it as a GSS subdomain. You all keep talking about that, and that it will magically happen, but unless one of you actually is serious about doing it then it never will. Please, someone prove me wrong and make a site, and I will host it and do all the necessary advertising.

About the affiliates issue: There are currently 2 "active", serious GSS sites that I know of (GSR and Aerie of the Roc). Depending on which site design you choose, we have had links to those sites for a very, very long time. I realize that not all of the designs have those links however, and that will be changing with the new site (coming in a few weeks).

I am going to talk to one of my friends about using his server again for a GSW server test, though I'm not sure when that might happen. When I know the details I will make sure to post it in the site news.

To sum this all up, there are only 24 hours in a day, 9 of which are consumed by school, and 8 of which are consumed by sleep. The remaining 7 hours have to be used in the most efficient and beneficial way, and unfortunately this website/forum/GSW are not at the top of the benefits/priority list. Over thanksgiving break next week I'll have time to do something useful, but otherwise I'm not sure yet.

[Sea of Time]

We understand (or at least I do) that you have a life and you can't be here all the time, that's why a co-admin might be a good idea. As for GSW, don't push yourself, fanfare for it has gone down significantly and if you release it tomorrow or in two months, I don't think it will make much difference to the site as a whole.

[Eugine]

You can't just select a co-admin on an already extablished forum. You need trust and of course must know the person fairly well.

I think it must be in the step member > moderator > admin, so to become an admin I think you must be a moderator and I don't see any of us taking up the job soon...

[Nemphtis]

Max, I think I'll talk about this in more detail when you are on MSN some time later. Or you can just read my previous 3-4 posts to see what we're trying to do.

I already know that you don't mind hosting a fansite of our choice as a subdomain. But the problem is it won't be succesful unless it APPEARS to be good. If I made a Halo site for EXAMPLE it would be www.haloworld.goldensun-syndicate.net and that's just the CORE URL, it's not even linking to any other pages yet. What I suggested was that you buy a new domain to go along with your current one (It's not that expensive, infact I'm sure some members will donate $1-3 which will cover the annual cost hopefully) and we can slowly one fansite after another start a network of RPG fansites consisting of games that are good but not over-used on fansites.

So like I said before let's say for EXAMPLE that we buy a domain called RPG Kingdom and we start a chain of fansites. As a forum we all vote on a game and make a fansite for it, the users will create all the content and after the admins and co-admins review it they can post it on the fansite. Once we feel the current fansite is complete, we move onto the next fansite we are all hyped up about. Every fansite will have a link to the forum, and there will be just one central forum which will connect all the fans from each fansite to it. Meaning if one of our fansites has 70 visitors and another has 30 visitors, when all of them click on the forums they are taken to the central forum which connects all of them together, so it's technically a multi-game fan-forum.

Let's say for example we start a fansite for Tales of Eternia on the PSP, the members write armor guides, item guides, walkthroughs together as a team and if it is deemed good enough it will be used in the sites content. Most important each fansite will affilliate with other fansite related to it and not related to it. So if every fansite is affilliated with a ton of other sites, we will have a huge network of sites linking to our subdomains which will all go to our main domain RPG Kingdom (example) and thus when someone searches for 'Tales of Eternia' on Google our site will very likely be listed on the first or second page which will draw people in to check it out and think "cool, a fansite, and they have a forum".

Also, we're trying to elaborate on this idea, so no we're not just saying let's do this, we're thinking what will happen if we do it and how we can optimize it when we do it so it turns out as excellent as possible. But this idea will deffinately not work if you have a long domain name like the current one, subdomains will just look extremely lame on such a long url path. But if it was www.talesof.rpgkingdom.com then it's alot better and suits it.

[Max]

Anubis, I understand what you are saying. But I'm not about to go buy a new domain and set up the necessary hosting and coding for it unless there will actually be a site ready to go. If people are truly interested in doing it, then I wouldn't hesitate a moment to set up the necessary infrastructure for such a venture. So if a group of you are really serious about any specific games, please let me know so we can start thinking about it more.

[Eugine]

OK. I agree with what Max and Anubis said. What I think we should do (like Max suggested) is that whoever is intrested make some beta sites under GSS, when its final and such and it appears good and such someone buys the domain.

Now, what games can be covered? I think Anubis should be the head of that project... How about making some polls in The Common Room and such?

[Nemphtis]

Max, on Nov 20 2005, 11:38 PM, said:

Anubis, I understand what you are saying. But I'm not about to go buy a new domain and set up the necessary hosting and coding for it unless there will actually be a site ready to go. If people are truly interested in doing it, then I wouldn't hesitate a moment to set up the necessary infrastructure for such a venture. So if a group of you are really serious about any specific games, please let me know so we can start thinking about it more.

Okay, I can understand that and I agree. No point going through all the hassle unless you know we're not going to be a bunch of lazy ****suckers and ditch the project halfway through. So what I shall do is try and get **** organized and see how much interest we have in this. But to do this I think it's alot easier on everyone if I make a new topic to discuss this idea and to make arrangements for it.

[Sea of Time]

Okay, this plan is good and should be set. I personally volunteer to do a forum on a game series I know well. But now, I think this discussion can move to the other topic.

[Eugine]

Just for formality sake, please use this topic to discus Anubis's idea :blink:

http://www.goldensun-syndicate.net/forum/i...?showtopic=7414