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Pursuing A Higher Education... Is it worth it?

#1   Echo_djinn 

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    Posted 13 November 2005 - 03:09 PM

    So many of us here are nearing the end of are high school education, and the question the pops up into my mind is if I should go onto university or college. I don't really have a plan for the future but I do have an interest in many fields of science such as biology, and.....yeah.

    Anyways, these days trying to get a higher education can be more of a burden then a blessing. The costs of a higher education has risen to unbelievable numbers over the years and the invisible guarantee that getting a degree or diploma will instantly land you a high paying job as all but vanished.

    So I come back to my question. Is it all worth it? What do you guys think.

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      Posted 13 November 2005 - 03:30 PM

      I think no matter what the cost, it's worth it. I don't want to have to work at a gas station my whole life, and I am interested in learning new things in university, and getting the whole "university experience".

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        Posted 13 November 2005 - 06:10 PM

        My friend said you can get a job and stuff that pays more than a college job, but he work for his dad, and not everyone's that lucky.I am planning on going to college in either Waco or Dallas, I haven't decided, but My sister, my brother, and my other sister said it is definitly worth it.

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          Posted 13 November 2005 - 07:06 PM

          Well, my sister got into one of the top 3 universities in the U.S. and that got her an internship and a job after she graduates one of the biggest banks in New York.

          She hasn't even graduated and there were people with master's degrees that had a lower position than her just cause her university was better.

          This post has been edited by Sheba: 13 November 2005 - 07:07 PM


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            Posted 13 November 2005 - 08:45 PM

            Getting a higher education is always worth it, my good sir.

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              Posted 13 November 2005 - 08:51 PM

              If you're pursuing a scientific career, then you will definitely need to go into higher education and probably graduate work. If you are really skilled in the field, then life has a way of paying you to do what you need to do.

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                Posted 14 November 2005 - 09:20 AM

                Both my sisters went to university and I want to as well.
                It would certainly look good when you want to get a job.

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                  Posted 14 November 2005 - 10:30 AM

                  Is it worth it?

                  Yes, simply said. I have already sent my applications, Im hoping to get into PennState. Being is how I live here.

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                    Posted 14 November 2005 - 02:34 PM

                    I hear what you all are saying but the facts say something else.

                    Most people who attend university drop out and find that it's to hard. Most likely by the time I leave university I will be in debt. Roughly, only about 20% of all students who do attended a university in Canada actually graduate and pick up a degree.

                    Also picking up a degree doesn't mean I will land a job. My teacher keeps blowing this question in my face and now I am actually thinking about it.

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                      Posted 14 November 2005 - 06:47 PM

                      Not a great teacher then. Just because 20% drop out, shouldn't we all strive to be the 20% that make it? If anything, this fact motivates me to do well in college or university so I can be part of that 20%.

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                        Posted 14 November 2005 - 07:11 PM

                        View PostSheba, on Nov 13 2005, 07:06 PM, said:

                        Well, my sister got into one of the top 3 universities in the U.S. and that got her an internship and a job after she graduates one of the biggest banks in New York.

                        She hasn't even graduated and there were people with master's degrees that had a lower position than her just cause her university was better.


                        She got into Yale, Harvard, or Princeton? They aren't in New York, they are the top three.

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                          Posted 14 November 2005 - 08:08 PM

                          It really depends on who you are. Personally I do have a lean towards the sciences and have gone through intensive school courses to prepare me for the workload of university. I plan on becoming a veterinarian, and I definitely need university for that.
                          However, it also depends on where you go. I'm going to a university in new zealand because there is only one school here in the west and it's no where near close to the same quality as those found elsewhere. Also, there are plenty of vets here, but a shortage down in new zealand.

                          So location is very important, and I bet you anything that those 20% are people who have been pressured to go to university but don't really want to, or people that went but still have no idea what they want to do. It's well worth it if you plan to become a professional.

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                            Posted 14 November 2005 - 08:51 PM

                            View PostIzar, on Nov 14 2005, 08:11 PM, said:

                            She got into Yale, Harvard, or Princeton? They aren't in New York, they are the top three.


                            She got into Yale. And, I never said she lived in New York x.X; She worked in New York during her summer vacation and she MIGHT work there when she graduates.

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                              Posted 15 November 2005 - 05:41 AM

                              Yale? VERY nice! ;)

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                                Posted 15 November 2005 - 04:06 PM

                                Wow Yale, I would never make it there. I might go to McGill if I can learn some French.

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                                  Posted 15 November 2005 - 05:01 PM

                                  To be part of it? Do you really believe that you need a university degree to make it at lin life? No. Does it help to have one. Some what. Is it needed. No. That's what I am getting at. In life your rarely ever have to use the mathematical skills or english writing abilities you learn in grade 12 on onward.

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                                    Posted 16 November 2005 - 12:42 AM

                                    I disagree. My father got his master degree in the last few years, and it has raised his 'worth' by a considable sum. I used to think i would like to get a ph'd, haha no way. I think any knowledge you can get is worth it. How ever i can't talk about the payment since Australia and America have different systems.

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                                      Posted 16 November 2005 - 05:25 PM

                                      Why jsut save typing and say it is third sheba, and it's a a kinda distant third.

                                      Well, there is no reason to think that colleges are the best, it depends on what you are going after. I prefer Dallas, Waco, and Corpus Christi for what I am doing. The worst I could do is go to Princeton or Yale.

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                                        Posted 16 November 2005 - 06:33 PM

                                        You still got the point of what I said, didn't you?

                                        I'll type however I want to, thanks e.e


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                                          Posted 17 November 2005 - 03:28 AM

                                          Sit on your ass, eat, drink, spend cash for free... Or go out there and get into fights everyday with haters to get an eeducation. Hmm... Hmmmmm... No. Haha.

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                                            Posted 17 November 2005 - 08:40 AM

                                            i'm uni now and it's great, money for nothing, lots of drinking good times! not looking foward to debt though

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                                              Posted 20 November 2005 - 09:39 AM

                                              NEVER take out a loan for college. OMG it's pointless. My sister still knows 30-40 year olds still paying it off.

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                                                Posted 20 November 2005 - 12:14 PM

                                                How else do you expect some people to pay for uni? Though I'm suprised at the number of people who don't get scholarships. They're so easy to get, and there's about a billion of them out there. And really, I think it depends what you're going to uni for.

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                                                  Posted 20 November 2005 - 03:13 PM

                                                  Since I want to become a photographer, I need to have at least 4 years of college anyway.

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                                                    Posted 24 November 2005 - 06:49 AM

                                                    View PostIzar, on Nov 20 2005, 03:39 PM, said:

                                                    NEVER take out a loan for college. OMG it's pointless. My sister still knows 30-40 year olds still paying it off.


                                                    how else do you plan to pay for it, i've got pay £10000 just to go. Dam Tuition fees!!!1

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                                                      Posted 24 November 2005 - 10:24 AM

                                                      View PostSea_of_Time, on Nov 15 2005, 07:36 PM, said:

                                                      I might go to McGill if I can learn some French.
                                                      no need; McGill is an English University, even though it's in Québec.

                                                      despite what a lot of people say, you do not necissarily have to go to University to get a good job, and depending on your career choice, it may cost more than it's worth. There are plenty of careers for people who haven't gone to University that are just as good as careers available to those who have. You shouldn't feel obligated to go to University; just go because you want to learn, or you have a career in mind which requires a degree.
                                                      Basically, think about what you want to do after high school - don't just go to university or college because it's expected of you. University isn't for everyone, and you aren't stupid for not going.

                                                      Personally, I'm going to Memorial University of newfoundland because it's close and has a good program.


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                                                        Posted 26 November 2005 - 05:32 AM

                                                        View Postel_Sethro, on Nov 24 2005, 04:24 PM, said:

                                                        There are plenty of careers for people who haven't gone to University that are just as good as careers available to those who have.


                                                        like plumbing, welding, building and the elusive "waste technician" i can barely contain my excitement.

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                                                          Posted 13 December 2005 - 07:16 PM

                                                          It is worth it, however, my dad never went to college, yet he's an engineer that makes over a hundred thousand a year. My mother however, went to 8 years of college and is now pursuing her medical degree to become a doctor. what she makes now isn't even near what my father makes. it really depends on your job. my father was lucky though. it took him years to get to the position he's in.

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                                                            Posted 09 August 2006 - 07:28 AM

                                                            Quite the revive, I know...

                                                            My simple answer is: a higher education is worth it, definitely.

                                                            I think it's an obligation that most (if not all) people should have. What do you stand to lose by going to a University or College, even if it is just a local one? It's a different kind of education than the type you're used to in lower education. It trains you to be responsible and dedicated, at the very least, and it's the sort of moral support I've always supported.

                                                            That is, of course, not even mentioning the obvious benefits it gives you when applying to jobs. However, some people have made a good point that depending on the career, you might not need a Master's Degree or higher.


                                                            I am currently in my final year of high school, and I am now having to consider College myself. My school allows me to apply to seven schools (though some allow me to apply for multiple colleges through one application).

                                                            My choices are:
                                                            - Cornell (either Arts and Sciences or Life Sciences)
                                                            - NYU
                                                            - Harvard (impossible to get into, but ah well, I'm just trying for the heck of it :) )
                                                            - Dartmouth
                                                            - State Schools (SUNY Binghamnton and SUNY Stonybrook)
                                                            - City School, Honors Program
                                                            - Columbia vs. Johns Hopkins vs. Boston University


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