[Split Infinity]

I have received much encouragement from MD about my digital artwork, so I thought I might show it off a little. Ironically, I always thought I was quite bad at using art programs until I was told otherwise. I'll keep your posted on any updates.

Okay! I got something happening here, tell me what you think. I want honest opinions, and suggestions on how I can improve:

http://img482.imageshack.us/img482/8186/transparentcolouredsquares2vx.png

[Mycarayne]

It's different. The only thing I can see that is graphically wrong with it, is that the border doesn't go all the way around.

But more importantly: What is it? Or what does it represent?

Tip of the day: If you want to to graphical art of whatever, invest in Adobe Photoshop.

[Mallick]

Intense. I was staring at it for a good five minutes. It's pretty cool, but needs a good border.

[Split Infinity]

There was never actually intended to be a border...this is just a rough draft. It's just when I used the Relief filter, it went slightly wrong and the corner got embossed along with everything else. I didn't notice it until I uploaded the image.

I created it through clever use of overlapping rectangles and transparent colours, along with the aforementioned Relief filter. Gotta love them filters. Well, I'll see ya tomorrow...yawn...

[Mallick]

Still though, it needs a border. It's like the Treble Clef.
E
G
B
D
B

Every good banner deserves bordering.

[Mars Djinni]

I thought it was somehting like "Good boys eat Grass". :B

Yeah, you're quite the artist, Split. It's very abstract. Nice job.

[Neon]

I may sound harsh among all these glowing comments by everyone else, but what i have to say is the truth. It looks cool, but it sucks.
lol, that makes no sense @_@

There's no skill in there but it looks pretty nifty. So if you take that uncanny skill to make bad images look interesting and then develop some skills through tutorials etc, you should be able to make some really awesome stuff :P.

There's some people around here that take this sort of stuff very seriously (Andross) so maybe they could point you in the right direction.




... damnit that image is so trippy lol O.o. *stares at image*

[pHantOm]

Neon, on Dec 19 2005, 10:23 AM, said:

I may sound harsh among all these glowing comments by everyone else, but what i have to say is the truth. It looks cool, but it sucks.

Agreed

I hope you were being sarcastic...LOL. It looks like an abuse of filters to me. But gotta start somewhere.

[Mallick]

Mars Djinni, on Dec 19 2005, 09:23 AM, said:

I thought it was somehting like "Good boys eat Grass". :B

Yeah, you're quite the artist, Split. It's very abstract. Nice job.

It's Every good bee deserves flowers/Every good boy deserves fudge.

[Mars Djinni]

So wait, Split, what do you use to draw these out again?

[Split Infinity]

I use Paint Dot Net, which was reccomended to me by a friend on another forum. It is rather similar to PhotoShop, but there are less effects that can be used (filters) and thus my options are much more limited than with PhotoShop.

Could a Moderator please spare a moment of his/her time and rename this topic with the word 'Impressive' in single quotation marks? Ta.

[Mallick]

http://www.eecs.wsu.edu/paint.net/

[Split Infinity]

Yep, that's the one.

Please post messages with more meaning - Eugine

This post has been edited by Eugine: 20 December 2005 - 05:22 AM

[Split Infinity]

Nah, leave the guy alone. You just consider yourself lucky. By the way, I've pulled off another masterpiece:

http://img380.imageshack.us/img380/6066/silverscotchtape3by.png

I achieved a surprisingly realistic effect here. I had to sharpen it a few times to get it looking like that. It reminds me of scotch tape. Silver scotch tape.

Oh yes. To all those would-be flamers, these are not meant to be complete works of art; rather, I'm just experimenting to find out what works and what doesn't.

[Mallick]

Leave him alone? No. He needs to learn how to moderate.

Reminds me of a long ribbon that's going every which way. Looks cool.

[Split Infinity]

I just motion blurred a bunch of wavy lines and sharpened it to get rid of the blurriness.

Borzoi has hatched! Booyah! Now, go do my bidding!

[Elliott]

@PDM: moderating a forum full of hyperactive mid-teens really isn't as easy as it looks.

@Split: Cool art, though a little small. I reckon try some bigger stuff soon :P .

[Eugine]

Like Agatio said, the pictures are a bit small but they are OK nevertheless. Keep on practising some more and you'd get better.

[Andross]

Er, I wouldn't be so curt as to call your own art 'masterpieces.' Master pieces sell for tens of thousands of dollars after all.

Critique: It's very small for one - they are just web graphics. Web graphics don't usually count as full-on art pieces.

Second, there's nothing that is compelling, imo, aesthetically in the pieces. There's an understanding of shape and line, but no real employment of color, contrast, composition, etc.

I recommend you try something wallpaper size (1024 X 768)

[pHantOm]

Andross, on Dec 22 2005, 11:56 AM, said:

Er, I wouldn't be so curt as to call your own art 'masterpieces.' Master pieces sell for tens of thousands of dollars after all.

Critique: It's very small for one - they are just web graphics. Web graphics don't usually count as full-on art pieces.

Second, there's nothing that is compelling, imo, aesthetically in the pieces. There's an understanding of shape and line, but no real employment of color, contrast, composition, etc.

I recommend you try something wallpaper size (1024 X 768)

Translation:

You're a noob at graphic design.

[Split Infinity]

<_< Erm...this is an unpleasant change of general opinion. Look at my set...is that n00b art? Yes. But it's cool n00b art at the very least. I could do better if I had better tools to work with...or more money...

[Andross]

Split Infinity, on Dec 22 2005, 08:14 PM, said:

<_< Erm...this is an unpleasant change of general opinion. Look at my set...is that n00b art? Yes. But it's cool n00b art at the very least. I could do better if I had better tools to work with...or more money...

I'm sorry, but that's simply not true.

Pixel artists use only Paint for their work, and I've seen some pretty amazing stuff. Granted, you're doing abstract art, but it doesn't necessarily mean you can't do anything good because you don't have the materials you want.

This draws a parallel to photography even. I've seen people take AMAZING pictures with a general point-and-shoot camera. I've also seen incredible pictures from $20 film toy-cameras.

It's about using what you have at the time. Or you could just use TorrentSpy + BitComet - I'm just mentioning them, figure out the rest on your own =P

[Split Infinity]

Damnit, I'm getting nowhere on this forum.

[Andross]

Split Infinity, on Dec 23 2005, 05:30 PM, said:

Damnit, I'm getting nowhere on this forum.

Or you could take my suggestion (and Agatio's) and make a larger sized piece ^_^

[Split Infinity]

And you're saying that would temporarily make me popular again?

And you're saying that would temporarily make me popular again?

[Elliott]

Who gives a **** about internet popularity? We suggest you make bigger art because it will demonstrate a higher level of artistic skill, not so you can make internet friends.

[Andross]

Precisely. Not only that, but the only way to get better is do more art.

I've taken roughly 5,000 photos. Maybe only 500 of them have been edited, and then another 100 of which are actually online and well received. But it shouldn't matter how many artworks you have to do to get better - I do photography because I love it.

Simply put, making more art shouldn't be a pain if you like doing it.

[Split Infinity]

Which I do. Very much! But I just can't afford all the fancy-pancy ****. How am I supposed to satisfy myself with next-to-useless filters going by names such as 'Add Noise' or 'Red Eye Removal'? No, I need something professional like PhotoShop. But guess what? They took away the free trials ages ago! Dangit! What is the world coming to? What is my world coming to!?

[Elliott]

I have spend about $0 on software for my computer.
I needn't think I have to say much more on the matter ^_^ .

[Split Infinity]

Oh god, never mind. I've always been hopeless with my communication skills.

I'm just going to stand in a corner for a few minutes. ^_^

[Elliott]

LIMEWIRE IS A FREE TO DOWNLOAD AND USE PROGRAM IT LETS YOU GET FILES FROM OTHER PEOPLE ALL AROUND THE WORLD.

If I was any more blunt than that... *rambles*

[Split Infinity]

Apparently, you weren't being blunt enough. I want imagery software, not something which allows me to do something I can already do. It's called 'downloading from the internet'. ^_^

[Elliott]

Limewire is a file sharing program. You can use it to freely download programs like Adobe Photoshop, Fireworks, Flash, Dreamweaver, GIF Animators etc. Even Windows XP. Is that blunt enough?

[pHantOm]

Agatio, on Dec 24 2005, 03:52 AM, said:

Limewire is a file sharing program. You can use it to freely download programs like Adobe Photoshop, Fireworks, Flash, Dreamweaver, GIF Animators etc. Even Windows XP. Is that blunt enough?

Translation:
You get this cool thingy that can get free stuff. Simply download the program, click the little icon, then search the program, you will find lots of results and lots of viruses, have fun with your cracked and illegal stuff. ^_^

[Andross]

Bit Comet is better

Faster for one. More efficient. And larger source for files.
Download it.
Install it.
Then go to the TorrentSpy website. And search around for what you want
It should be pretty obvious what I'm telling you. I won't say it out right though.

[Julian]

lmao, Agatio xDD i almost laughed by head off.
Anyways, BitComet, BitTorrent, Azureus whatever client you use, it doesn't matter.
The fact is, when it comes to art, it doesnt matter at all what materials you have. The thing thats so great about art is that that rule does not apply whatsoever. Art can be brought to life in so many ways it's not even funny. My art tutor has a bunch of grade 12 students and their learning design and getting their portfolios ready to be sent in, basically the create artwork with whatever they have, paperclips, thread, buttons.... and boy, what came outta those everyday house objects.... $$_$$ lol, jk. Anyways, even at this point even if you had a better program, if your skills dont improve, nothing will ever change. As an artist, you have to have guts, you have to have the passion and modivation to tackle anything that comes your way. For some of us, this has become more than a popularity contest.

[Andross]

Julian, on Dec 24 2005, 01:02 PM, said:

lmao, Agatio xDD i almost laughed by head off.
Anyways, BitComet, BitTorrent, Azureus whatever client you use, it doesn't matter.
The fact is, when it comes to art, it doesnt matter at all what materials you have. The thing thats so great about art is that that rule does not apply whatsoever. Art can be brought to life in so many ways it's not even funny. My art tutor has a bunch of grade 12 students and their learning design and getting their portfolios ready to be sent in, basically the create artwork with whatever they have, paperclips, thread, buttons.... and boy, what came outta those everyday house objects.... $$_$$ lol, jk. Anyways, even at this point even if you had a better program, if your skills dont improve, nothing will ever change. As an artist, you have to have guts, you have to have the passion and modivation to tackle anything that comes your way. For some of us, this has become more than a popularity contest.

Hear hear!

My photography, by way of selling prints and doing party shoots, will help me pay for college, a car, and a new camera...eventually. My web design also works the same way. And the design of the site is vital, which is an art in itself, as one must utilize graphic design concepts, which basically involves everything - color, line, pattern, composition, contrast.

If you're really passionate, and if you're a true artist, it won't matter if you don't have the greatest equipment all the time.

[Split Infinity]

So this stuff allows you to 'illegally' download software that would otherwise cost 100's of dollars? I can't help but wonder if I'm going too deep into this...

[Mallick]

Andross, on Dec 23 2005, 09:20 AM, said:

I'm sorry, but that's simply not true.

Pixel artists use only Paint for their work, and I've seen some pretty amazing stuff. Granted, you're doing abstract art, but it doesn't necessarily mean you can't do anything good because you don't have the materials you want.

This draws a parallel to photography even. I've seen people take AMAZING pictures with a general point-and-shoot camera. I've also seen incredible pictures from $20 film toy-cameras.

It's about using what you have at the time. Or you could just use TorrentSpy + BitComet - I'm just mentioning them, figure out the rest on your own =P

Pixel art is way different. Have you tried it? Way easier than any graphic art. Don't be hard on him. He's good, not godly like you, Agatio, and the other guys that do awesome graphics around here, but he's good.

[Andross]

Piers diamondberg master, on Dec 24 2005, 11:15 PM, said:

Pixel art is way different. Have you tried it? Way easier than any graphic art.

I have tried it, and you'd be surprised at how hard it is to make a meaningful icon in only a 4 X 4 space ^_^
And who gives a sh!t about whether people think I'm "godly" or not? Just b/c you say he's good doesn't mean I can't critique his work truthfully. It's more helpful to point out problems and give suggestions than to just say 'yeah, those are good.'

[Mallick]

I never said you couldn't critique him. I was talking about the part above the critique.