[My Best Wishes]

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Why was the Wii thread taken out?

That was done by me. What I wanted to do was organize the forum, as we had too many discussion topics going around. This topic was meant to replace the original pinned Next-Gen topic. The Wii Discussion topic had started to become a debate between all consoles, not just Wii, so I took that out. You can create another one, but make it clear that ONLY the Wii should be discussed and nothing else. - GL

Well here's the new Wii discussion.

Discuss! But only the Wii.

As for me, when will the Virtual Console be released, anyone?

[Someone Else]

Already out. Super Mario 64 is now up for grabs.

[TheEnglishman]

They've got a few games out on it now. Super Mario 64, F-Zero, Sonic etc.

[Aquamarine]

They've also got some TurboGrafx games up. I think they're Bomberman and Bonks... or something.

Continuing the GameSpot-Zelda-score-debate-thing(I'll say something about it here since I'm not checking the TP topic anymore in case of spoilers): Twilight Princess is ranked on Gamerankings as the 4th best game of all time, for now. Its average ratio is 96.1%. That means that EVERYONE has given it a large score except for GameSpot.

[Someone Else]

Like I said before... if you're going to give the game a low score for reusing a formula, you should lower the game's scores over time, not just one day up and say, "THE FORMULA'S OLD'D!!". As far as I can tell, GameSpot gave Zelda GOOD scores for using the same formula.

[TheEnglishman]

Moving it away from the giant TP debate...
How do you think the launch has gone? Good or bad? I'd say it's been good for Nintendo so far. Now we just have to wait for new games to appear.

[Someone Else]

It's mostly good. The backlash against TP's score on GameSpot means it was a good game. :P

[TheEnglishman]

Well most of the launch games have got roughly 7.0-8.0, which is pretty good. However everyone knows that the fun games of a console will come later on.

[Golden Legacy]

GameSpot is ONE single gaming website. It hardly matters that it gave Twilight Princess an 8.8, as the tens of other websites, including big ones like IGN and GameInformer all gave it scores like 9.5 and 10, respectively.

That said, I was pleasantly surprised by how Madden did on Wii. It received fairly good reviews; EA, it seems, has actually put effort into creating an innovative use for the controller, and not just some gimmicky port.

[Toasty]

'Sup. Been off for a while. Anywho, I've gotten to see it first hand at GameStop (though I'm sure many of you have as well). It's a LOT smaller than I thought.

[My Best Wishes]

I still haven't seen one :P

Typical me asking questions again.

Where can I see the realeased VC games?

And why do you guys use GameSpot? Whats wrong with IGN?

As for the launch games, CoD3 has zero multiplayer, not even fricken spilt screen. No longer buying that.
Redsteel got crapas reviews, will rent that before/if I buy.
NFS is supposed to be real short, plus got it on Ps2.

Only game I'm getting is Zelda. At launch I might just get that and some VC credit.

[Toasty]

I hope to get LoZ:TP and Red Steel for christmas. It may have gotten bad reviews by some people, but I'll get it because it looks like a great FPS. Besides, even if it's bad, it's not like I'll be paying for it. :P

[Aquamarine]

watch, on Nov 23 2006, 07:14 AM, said:

I still haven't seen one :P

Typical me asking questions again.

Where can I see the realeased VC games?

And why do you guys use GameSpot? Whats wrong with IGN?

As for the launch games, CoD3 has zero multiplayer, not even fricken spilt screen. No longer buying that.
Redsteel got crapas reviews, will rent that before/if I buy.
NFS is supposed to be real short, plus got it on Ps2.

Only game I'm getting is Zelda. At launch I might just get that and some VC credit.

I haven't seen one either, though I will on the 8th of December probably, since that is the date when it will be released in Europe.

You can check the released VC games here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Virtu...orth_America%29

Nothing is wrong with IGN. I actually check IGN far more often than GameSpot, it's just that it often matters to me what score GameSpot gave a game too.

Maybe you would be interested in Rayman? It has gotten pretty good reviews.

[Someone Else]

watch, on Nov 23 2006, 01:14 AM, said:

Where can I see the realeased VC games?

And why do you guys use GameSpot? Whats wrong with IGN?

GameSpot posted a review of Mario 64 on the VC for the Wii, so you could try GameSpot for the list of currently released VC games. Try the Nintendo site too, or any other official Nintendo site...

I use GameSpot more than IGN because they offer more free content. I also find GameSpot easier to navigate, but I actually prefer IGN's reviews more.

[Toasty]

I don't look at reviews much. I prefer to get hands on with it first, or have some backround knowledge from other games in it's series. When I do check reviews, I usually go to IGN, but Gamespot is a good source as well.

[Aquamarine]

GameSpot seems to often give games a lower score than they deserve, which sometimes can be a good thing, but I usually check IGN and even more than that PlanetGameCube(now called Nintendo World Report). I know they are Nintendo fans and that they're probably biased, but I'm a Nintendo fan too so we're speaking the same language. And I've noticed that I very often agree with almost everything they said in their reviews.

[Max]

I was lucky to be 6th in line this morning at my local EB Games, which only had 8 in stock. I picked up Madden and Zelda with it.

Madden is fun, though it is a bit frustrating at first until you get used to the controls. I'm so used to button pressing for actions, that I forget to do the physical actions sometimes.

I've only played about 30 minutes of Zelda so far, but it's looking pretty good. The beginning is similar in style to previous Zelda game beginnings, so we'll have to see how it develops.

[TheEnglishman]

Not jealous... nope.... not at all. I wouldn't have bought Madden, though that may be down to me not being American.

[Aquamarine]

Max, on Nov 24 2006, 10:38 PM, said:

I've only played about 30 minutes of Zelda so far, but it's looking pretty good. The beginning is similar in style to previous Zelda game beginnings, so we'll have to see how it develops.

I can't believe that you played Zelda for only 30 minutes! When I get it I'm sure I'll play it for at least an hour. I probably wouldn't even come here for a few days because of all the Zelda playing.

[Someone Else]

So, yeah. GameSpot reviewed The Legend of Zelda on the VC.

Jeff (same guy who reviewed Zelda TP) gave it a 7.2. He said it doesn't hold up well to todays standards. It's 20 years old... It's not fair to give a game a low score because it's old. Would OoT still have a 10 if it were re-reviewed to "todays" standards?

[Nyktos]

Wind Dude, on Nov 24 2006, 05:42 PM, said:

Would OoT still have a 10 if it were re-reviewed to "todays" standards?

Imo, yes. It's better than 90+% of games coming out these days, and I fully expect it to be a league better than TP.

[Neon]

Watch, the virtual console game for australia are a bit different at the moment to those in america. Mostly because america are ahead in getting theirs online (well the wii is released there but still 2 weeks away here), and also games never released in australia will not be available.

www.vooks.net has a list in the Ultimate Launch Guide of the VC games already revealed for aus.

[Aquamarine]

Wind Dude, on Nov 24 2006, 11:42 PM, said:

So, yeah. GameSpot reviewed The Legend of Zelda on the VC.

Jeff (same guy who reviewed Zelda TP) gave it a 7.2. He said it doesn't hold up well to todays standards. It's 20 years old... It's not fair to give a game a low score because it's old. Would OoT still have a 10 if it were re-reviewed to "todays" standards?

That guy is a ****ing idiot! He obviously doesn't like Zelda, and of course the game is going to be 20 years old! That's the whole freaking point of the VirtualConsole!

[TheEnglishman]

To be fair he does that some aspects haven't aged well 'though that is to be expected'. He admits that he knows the game won't be of the same standard as other games.

[Golden Legacy]

I'm surprised that they're even giving reviews to virtual console games in the first place. The point of having that is for retro, classic gaming; obviously they can't compete with today's standards and production values.

[TheEnglishman]

I found that weird as well. I guess they just want people to see their opinion about older games, since they obviously couldn't do reviews on the Net when they first came out.
~1600~

[Eugine]

Not everyone played those old games. They are reviewing it for those people.

If I pick up LoZ for the first time now, it definetly wouldn't have the same impact it had around 20 years back. That's how they review it.

[Blink]

Well I picked up Zelda I on Wednesday, and it had the same impact on me as when I first bought Link's Awakening DX for the GBC. It's an incredible 2d Zelda game that was well worth the money I paid for it, and I've played a good 10 hours with it now (on the second to last dungeon, level 8). I wouldn't agree with the 7.2, I'd give it an 8, because it's still a 2d Zelda game, and it's still very balanced and quite good looking (for an NES game, nothing really surpassed that level of quality NES art and color balancing). The controls feel solid on the Wii Remote, and the emulation is really really accurate, with slowdown where you'd expect it on an NES even (!!!) and flickering enemies from overlapping problems that were well known of in the original. Only letdown: no worries about dust in the cartridge. :P

I'm really glad I bought it though, because I never would have finished Zelda I if it had to be on my NES and if this hadn't come along.

EDIT: I like what 1up did though. They didn't grade the old games, they just said "Yes/No" on whether the download and price for the game was "Worth it". It's very simple, and very easy, because it's just a matter of whether you should or shouldn't download a game. Zelda got a yes, Donkey Kong got a no (it was said to be inferior to an arcade version), etc...

[My Best Wishes]

Hey thanks Neon.

Still waiting for the 7th to come around.

[Toasty]

I played the demo for Excite Truck on friday. It's easy to get used to the controls, because it feels so much more natural than a joystick, but it's really hard to keep from crashing into things. The graphics are amazing too. The colors are vivid, and the texture and terrain are very lifelike. My overall score: 8.5/10

I also bought Final Fantasy 3 that same day. It's the first FF game I've played, but even withought ever playing any other old ones for refrence (and of course itself since it was never released in the US), it's a great remake, and I'm addicted to it. It's a lot like GS. Personally, I'd rate it a 9.5/10. Great game, but it's missing something. My rating might change once I've finished it.

[Aquamarine]

I would like to ask everyone who has a Wii what the console is like. But I don't mean the games, but what the Wiimote feels like, does the console get overheated quickly, do the Wii Channels and Virtual Console work well and so on... I just need a little specific info about the console itself.

[TheEnglishman]

Aquamarine, on Nov 26 2006, 03:48 PM, said:

I would like to ask everyone who has a Wii what the console is like. But I don't mean the games, but what the Wiimote feels like, does the console get overheated quickly, do the Wii Channels and Virtual Console work well and so on... I just need a little specific info about the console itself.

I wouldn't mind hearing some specifics as well, especially as I'm less certain if I'm going to get one than the rest of you.

[Max]

I've played my Wii about 7 or 8 hours over the past few days, and have been pretty pleased with the hardware.

As has been described in all the marketing material, it is slightly larger than 3 DVD cases stacked. The console and the Wiimote and nunchuck are all made of the same white glossy plastic, which looks nice and doesn't feel too cheap. My hands tend to sweat a fair bit while playing games, and so the Wiimote and nunchuck get a bit slippery, but nothing unmanageable. I'm sure we will see some 3rd party versions with fans like we have for prior consoles.

The Wii unit itself is pretty quiet and unobtrusive. The slot-loaded CD/DVD drive works pretty well, though it was non-obvious at first which directions disks were supposed to be loaded.

The sensor bar can be placed either above or below your TV, and comes with an optional plastic stand to hold it on a flat surface if you don't want to rest it directly on your TV. I've found that the aiming isn't exactly accurate to where I'm pointing, but that might simply be a result of my setup.

Finally, the Wiimote and nunchuck feel pretty solid and are a near ideal weight. The buttons feel good, no complaints there. My only real gripe with the controllers so far is that it is hard to use all the buttons on the Wiimote without completely shifting your hand grip. Granted, most games don't require use of the (1) or (2) buttons for anything other than menus, but it is still a tad annoying IMO.

If anyone has any specific details they'd like to know about, I'd be more than happy to let you know my experience.

[Golden Legacy]

Ahh, it's a shame that I have to wait until mid-December to get my Wii.

That said, I've read in previews that the Nun-chuck's accelerometer (sp?) isn't as accurate as the main remote's. Is this true? For example, is doing spin attacks in Zelda relatively responsive?

Also, have you tried out GameCube games on the Wii? Do they run well?

[Aquamarine]

Thanks for the info Max. I've got a few more questions though.
Have you made a Mii yet? If you have, is it fun to do? Are there enough options to make many different faces or does it feel limited?
Also, when playing WiiSports, is the swinging of the Wiimote responsive enough or does it have some lag?

[kandy man]

JUst for those of you who want to keep your wii points heres a trick:
after registrating, and inputing the wii points card number into the field, CHANGE some of the characters.
By doing so you will save your wii points. Cool eh?

[Max]

I haven't noticed any lag with regards to either the Wiimote or the nunchuck. Both have responded almost instantly, though some games may introduce some intentional lag to insure that they properly recognize actions.

I've opened the Mii creation screen, but didn't really spend much time with it. From a brief glance at it though, there appears to be a ton of ways to customize it, so I don't think there will be too many duplicates. Definitely enough to be creative and unique.

I have not tried playing any GC games on it yet, mostly because I don't have a wireless GC controller and the Wii is too far from my couch to use a wired controller. But maybe I'll do some experimentation this weekend.

[Golden Legacy]

According to IGN Wii, Wii sold through its shipment of 600,000 units. Also, Zelda was (of course) the top selling Wii game, selling through some 454,000 in just the past week.

[TheEnglishman]

That's a pretty impressive amount. Obviously you expect a well known series like Zelda to sell quickly but still.

[Aquamarine]

I have yet another question: What is the Wiimote speaker like? Can its quality be changed in any way through some options? I've read that it is pretty bad, and that's a big dissapointment.

[Golden Legacy]

From my own limited experience with the Wii, it gets the job done. It's definitely not perfect, the sound can sound distorted, but I guess it would have cost Nintendo a lot more to include a decent speaker. When it's in the "background", it supplements your game nicely, but if you pay attention to it, then yes, the sound quality does leave a bit to be desired.

[Max]

Echoing what GL said, I was a bit disappointed with the speaker. As stated in virtually every review I've read, it is quite tinny. I found the default volume to be way too loud, at least in Zelda, so I lowered it down a bit so I couldn't hear the quality issues as much. It isn't a huge deal, but it can distract you from the fun a bit if that kind of thing bothers you.

[Blink]

Some games use it well. Wii sports makes a small chime in your remote each time it's your turn to step up to bat/swing/roll/serve/etc. Super Monkey Ball however, tries to put normal game sounds in it, and it can be a pain. Only the simplest, smallest, quickest sounds should be included IMO. I found the second lowest volume setting works well for me. So, just like everything else about the console, it really depends on whether it gets used well or not. :mellow:

[Sea of Time]

I still have not touched nor seen a Wii. I guess I need to get out more. But from what I hear, the control issues don't seem to be an issue.

I did hear about the speaker thing, and I didn't expect that to be great. Since the gaming speaker originated with Mario Party 6, I don't expect it to be a big part of games to come on the Wii.

[Saturos S.]

They aren't released till next week in Europe. I've played one at some game event here in the Netherlands and since then, I haven't been too enthusiasitic about the console. It felt more like duck shooting (the game where you shot ducks with a game gun thing) then an addition to your arm.

[TheEnglishman]

http://www.wiihaveaproblem.com/
Looks like a jokey site for Wii related comedy. That first incident on there must be pretty annoying.

[Golden Djinn13]

If I had broken that t.v., I would have to work the rest of my life to pay it off....and I would have my wii taken away.

[Sea of Time]

Eww, a guy was awake for five days waiting in line and was all sweaty and saying stuff like "Hell yeah!"

Something really makes me not want to play online now.

[Someone Else]

Me111, on Nov 29 2006, 04:19 PM, said:

http://www.wiihaveaproblem.com/
Looks like a jokey site for Wii related comedy. That first incident on there must be pretty annoying.

Sucks the wrist strap isn't tough enough. But hey, if you keep reading you'll see a story where the guy contacts the Nintendo customer support about it. At least Nintendo's customer support is responsive.

Max said:

I've played my Wii about 7 or 8 hours over the past few days, and have been pretty pleased with the hardware.

As has been described in all the marketing material, it is slightly larger than 3 DVD cases stacked. The console and the Wiimote and nunchuck are all made of the same white glossy plastic, which looks nice and doesn't feel too cheap. My hands tend to sweat a fair bit while playing games, and so the Wiimote and nunchuck get a bit slippery, but nothing unmanageable. I'm sure we will see some 3rd party versions with fans like we have for prior consoles.

I like that the Wii is small, but I wish that they could've boosted the hardware to something a bit more recent, even if it would mean the Wii would be bigger. If this console's going to last Nintendo a couple of years, it should be a bit more... next gen?

[Golden Legacy]

You have GOT to be kidding me.

Read this article from IGN... some surprising revelations indeed about the Wii and its sensor bar.

[Someone Else]

...well that's certainly handy. Candles!

[Aquamarine]

This is all very interesting. I'm glad to hear not only the good parts, but also the bad about the Wii. But I still think people that get so carried away with swinging the Wiimote that they chuck it into their TV's are idiots.

[Sea of Time]

It's really only a problem for people with sweaty hands. If you swing at high speeds and you have sweaty hands, bad things can only happen.

[Aquamarine]

Well just don't swing the darn thing at high speeds! I understand that sometimes using your whole body to swing it must be more fun then just flicking your wrist, but if you risk destroying your TV, then I say small wrist flicks are the only way to go.

[Sea of Time]

I always figured that most hardcore gamers would be too lazy to swing their arms and just sit on the couch, flicking their wrists. I guess I was wrong after watching some of those videos.

[Aquamarine]

I hear the Wii is much more fun when played while standing. I actually never ever did that in my life for any of my previous consoles, so it'll be strange to get used to that, but I'll give it a go.

[Sea of Time]

Wii Sports looks like a lot of fun to play standing up, but even the best of us get tired. That's why I'm so happy that the same effect will happen with just a lazy flick of the wrist. Kudos to Nintendo.

[Aquamarine]

What effect? You mean getting tired? Everyone keeps saying that you never get tired of swinging the Wiimote around, even after hours of playing in any position. Which is strange, I know, but hopefuly true.

[Sea of Time]

By effect, I mean the power put into the swing in the game. You can create a powerful hit, by swinging your arm, or merely flicking your wrist. In this way, Nintendo caters to the adrenaline junkies and the lazy people.

[Aquamarine]

Oh, I get it now, that's right. Yeah, that is cool. I bet I'll want to play Twilight Princess with small flicks of my wrist, but WiiSports with relatively large swings.
I can't wait for Mario Party 8 to be released for Wii. I bet it'll be really good, using the Wiimote for mini-games and playing it online. It's supposed to be released in March.

[Blink]

Yeah, but guys, you really DO get into it with WiiSports. You just get hooked, and gotta keep going, and before you know it you just spent an hour playing Tennis and you're feeling tired! I only notice between games, because it's not much movement (none in the legs) but it's movement none the less.

[Someone Else]

I don't have enough room to stand and play where I plan on putting my "entertainment system".

[Sea of Time]

At first, I thought something like that would be a problem. If I were ever to put a Wii in my room, I would never have the room to swing my arms madly. But the genius is, I can slouch and just flick my wrists. I'm a lazy person, I'm not afraid to admit it. I'm glad that Nintendo made sure to think of the people who may not have as much space as others.

[My Best Wishes]

Well everything is payed off for me.
At launch I will be getting:
The wii package (console, wii sports)
Zelda
2000 points of VC credit

Anyone else ready? (Aside from the Americans who already have it :rolleyes:)

[Aquamarine]

My friend has pre-ordered the Wii(with WiiSports, of course) and Zelda. He won't be getting the VC points just yet. It's not fair, he'll get his console in about four days, while I have to wait till next summer. Still, I can't complain, it was my choice...

[Golden Legacy]

I've got to wait until mid-December, at best, to get my Wii, when it will be my younger brother's birthday, and also that is when my college acceptance results come out.

That said, Nintendo recently confirmed the release of three new titles in Q1 2007: WarioWare, Wii Play, and Mario Party 8. Interestingly, all three of these titles are collections of mini-games.

[zepula]

It seems like nobody else got the games I did, so let me comment on them...

Excite Truck is a good game, good controls, very fast, fun, enjoyable, exciting (=P), and you can use your own mp3's during races. But the contents are lacking, maybe a little less than a Mario Kart game. I give it a 8/10.

Red Steel is mediocre, subpar, and has the worst cut scenes I have seen in my entire life, Ive seen better GBA cut scenes...anyways, if this game was on any other console, it would get around 3's, but since it's on the Wii, the controls make it a tad enjoyable, so I give it a 5/10.

And Wii Sports is my favorite game, Im addicted to tennis, tennis is great, I reached pro status, and beat the tennis champ, making me the new champ I guess...bowling is good, I also got pro status in bowling, giving me a cool looking bowling ball, baseball is good, but can get sorta boring when playing a full single player game, golf is pretty good, not great though, and I dislike boxing, for some reason it doesnt read my punches correctly...but overall, its great. There is also different practice modes for each of the sports (3 for each sport), and a Wii Fitness mode that gives you a fitness age, I dont like it because it keeps telling me I'm old (=P). I cant really give it a number score, so Ill just say it's highly enjoyable.

[Golden Djinn13]

zepula, on Dec 4 2006, 06:20 PM, said:

Red Steel is mediocre, subpar, and has the worst cut scenes I have seen in my entire life, Ive seen better GBA cut scenes...anyways, if this game was on any other console, it would get around 3's, but since it's on the Wii, the controls make it a tad enjoyable, so I give it a 5/10.

Wow, and here I was thinking the game looked really good, but then again it didn't get good ratings on Ign, etc.

[zepula]

Yeah, despite all the warnings in reviews, I got the game anyways. I fully regret it. I got it because I usually enjoy games despite their mid-scores, but this one is a thumbs down for me.

Oh yeah, the menus are wierd too...

[Golden Legacy]

It seems like from all the reviews, though, the only problem with Red Steel was the inability to turn quickly. When I tried it out at my school's Wii club, I didn't find it too bad, considering I don't play FPS games that often. But yeah, it was definitely something to adjust to, and the graphics are generally too dark and muddy.

[Someone Else]

Red Steel is a game you either love or hate. Anyone who was interested in it should rent it and give it a good try. I've seen lots of people saying they love the game after they've gotten fully used to the controls.

[Golden Djinn13]

Golden Legacy, on Dec 4 2006, 07:33 PM, said:

It seems like from all the reviews, though, the only problem with Red Steel was the inability to turn quickly. When I tried it out at my school's Wii club, I didn't find it too bad, considering I don't play FPS games that often. But yeah, it was definitely something to adjust to, and the graphics are generally too dark and muddy.

Your school has a Wii Club?

I thought that Red Steel was one of the more anticipated games at the wii's launch. Guess it didn't work out very well.

[Someone Else]

I'm still iffy on paying $250 for a console with last-gen hardware with a control scheme that's actually been around for a while. Just never been used much.

[Aquamarine]

Then don't get it. Maybe you should just pay $600 for a console with next-gen hardware, huh?

GL has a Wii Club at school? :rolleyes: Darn you...

As for Mario Party 8, it is being released in March and I can't wait for it. If it can be played online I'm almost certainly getting it. Wiimote-using minigames AND online play? Almost a must-have for me.

[Neon]

I wasn't really excited about the wii until today, lol, I've decided I don't care about the controls anymore, I just want to play TP and can't wait for more retro games to be released to the virtual console. Donkey Kong Country isn't enough! i demand Super Metroid, DKC2, DKC3, Majora's Mask...

[Aquamarine]

I believe you'll be getting all of that pretty soon Neon. All of that and much more. But that will be a lot of money spent of VirtualConsole points you know. Also, you'll have to delete old games from time to time if you plan on having a whole bunch of them, since only a limited amount can be stored in the console.

And why would you NOT want to get a Wii because of the controls? The whole point of the console is the new controls...

[Someone Else]

Aquamarine, on Dec 5 2006, 04:53 AM, said:

Then don't get it. Maybe you should just pay $600 for a console with next-gen hardware, huh?

You make it sound like I have a choice roflmayo.

[zepula]

The controls are the only part of the game that I like, and I didnt have a issue with the turning.

[Golden Legacy]

Yes, my school has a Wii club. Meetings are held twice a week (sometimes more), and we usually have two consoles set up; one for Wii sports, and another Wii for the "hardcore games" (i.e. Zelda and Red Steel).

[My Best Wishes]

Aquamarine, on Dec 6 2006, 05:42 AM, said:

I believe you'll be getting all of that pretty soon Neon. All of that and much more. But that will be a lot of money spent of VirtualConsole points you know. Also, you'll have to delete old games from time to time if you plan on having a whole bunch of them, since only a limited amount can be stored in the console.

What I've been told about the VC is that once you download the game, you can delete it for more space, and then if you want it back you can just redownload it. With no extra cost.
Although I was also told that each game is assigned the serial of the Wii or something so you cannot just put VC games on a SD card and give them to a mate.

Wii comes out tomorrow, on my last day of school :rolleyes:

[Saturos S.]

No f'ing way. Australia gets it before it's properly released in Europe. This has to be rock bottom.

[Aquamarine]

I agree with SS. :)
But really, I don't understand why Nintendo hates Europe so much. I mean, they keep saying that they feel Europe is an important market, but they do nothing about it. I understand why they would focus more on America, it is a bigger market afterall, but come on, they're focusing more on Australia it seems! Nobody even lives there! (oh man, you Aussies are gonna kill me :rolleyes: )

watch: I think most of what you said was true, though I know nothing about downloading a game for free if you had it already. That actually makes no sense if you ask me, but how would I know... Anyway, you can transfer your games to an SD card, but the stupid thing is you can't play the game on your Wii directly from the card. You have to transfer it from the card back to the console to be able to play it.

[TheEnglishman]

Aquamarine, on Dec 6 2006, 07:08 PM, said:

I agree with SS. :)
But really, I don't understand why Nintendo hates Europe so much. I mean, they keep saying that they feel Europe is an important market, but they do nothing about it. I understand why they would focus more on America, it is a bigger market afterall, but come on, they're focusing more on Australia it seems! Nobody even lives there! (oh man, you Aussies are gonna kill me :D )

They do say a lot about how they feel Europe is important but they never feel the need to change things. Still I guess delays mean you can appreciate the game more when you get it... or kill everyone with mad rage before you do.

[Golden Legacy]

To be completely fair, let's just consider these two facts.

The United States and Japan are the two largest, and arguably most important markets.

It's a lot easier to localize games for Japan or U.S., as the games merely involve a single language (Japanese and American English, obviously). However, Europe consists of so many different nations and markets and language barriers, you can imagine how difficult it must be to release games there.

[My Best Wishes]

Plus it is only 1 day.

Registering my Wii now so I can download games, oh yea. :D

Edit- How do I tell which Sega games work with a GC control!!!!!

[FlamingDuck]

I dunno, its probably online somewhere.

But yeah, I'm waiting for my Wii til after Christmas.

[Sea of Time]

If Red Steel is so bad, are there any other shooters on the horizon that look to have promise for the Wii?

The only one I've heard of is a game by the same people who made Killer 7, I can't recall what it's called at the moment.

[TheEnglishman]

I don't know of any other shooters for Wii at the moment. Maybe they're all waiting for someone else to make one first.

[Sea of Time]

Hmm, I thought at least EA would make one. They never miss a chance to make some money.

[TheEnglishman]

They're probably too busy making as few changes as possible to all the sports games they're going to bring out next year. :D

[Sea of Time]

Oh don't get me started on that. It's like they focus all their attention on Madden now and all the other sports games take a back seat. NBA Live 07 was worse than 06, usually they at least add a crappy feature that doesn't change gameplay at all. But not this time....

And has anyone else noticed that EA is only releasing Madden as a sports title on the Wii?

[TheEnglishman]

Well it might be due to the sports seasons. They wouldn't need a new FIFA out until autumn of next year and there isn't much point putting the version they have got onto Wii now as they've already gone through a quarter of the season.

[Sea of Time]

I hope so. It would be a disappointment if they didn't carry the FIFA, NBA, and NHL franchises over to the Wii. That would just be lazy if they didn't.

[TheEnglishman]

It would, especially since FIFA is finally starting to rival the Pro Evo (Winning Eleven) series as the best football game out there.

[Sea of Time]

In reality, I think they will bring the FIFA series over. It's only getting better, and Winning Eleven is really only holding its ground.

I'm worried about the NBA and NHL series, which probably wouldn't have a very big audience on the Wii anyway.

[TheEnglishman]

I'm not really sure how they can play footie with a Wii controller though. How can you use your hands to play a game which doesn't let you use your hands? It'll have to use buttons.

[Sea of Time]

I'm just thinking that movement will be on the nunchuck controller, tipping the nunchuck could control the speed of the player, and flicks of the remote control could represent passes and crosses. I'm not sure what could be shooting though.

[TheEnglishman]

I think shooting would have to be left to the buttons. Using the controller for passes would take getting used to but I guess it could work.

[Saturos S.]

Same for passing, tackling and tricks I think. Though I'm worried that the novelty will wear of to soon. So Nintendo will be forced to get... a normal controller.

[zepula]

Another shooter out is Call of Duty 3...
And that seems to be the game that all the casual gamers at my school want to play because they seen the commercial where hes holding the remote and nunchuck like a gun.
And I'm still the only person at my school to have a Wii, I have a friend thats going to get one...sometime.

And I think I Wii basketball game would be fun, like Mario Hoops, except real motions, move with the analog stick, pass by moving the remote left or right, and shoot by making an overhead motion, that seems like it would be fun to me.

[My Best Wishes]

And the verdict is that COD3 sucks. Most sites say it was a rushed game nad not up to par with the other Next Gen console's versions.
Plus it has zero multiplayer, at least Red Steel has multiplayer.

[Sea of Time]

zepula, on Dec 7 2006, 08:09 PM, said:

And I think I Wii basketball game would be fun, like Mario Hoops, except real motions, move with the analog stick, pass by moving the remote left or right, and shoot by making an overhead motion, that seems like it would be fun to me.

Sure, arcade hoops could be fun. But when it comes to simulators, which more pure sports fans like myself enjoy, I don't see it translating well onto the Wii. There's just too much stuff to do in basketball for one (or two) controllers.

[Aquamarine]

Hey, you've got enough sports games on the Wii! Just remember, you've got WiiSports and very soon Mario Strikers Charged. :D

Other shooters for Wii which'll be released soon are FarCry Vengence and, of course, Metroid Prime 3. I've played the PC version of FarCry at my friends place a few years ago and I quite liked it, so I'm looking forward to the reviews. It is made by Ubisoft.

[TheEnglishman]

Aquamarine, on Dec 8 2006, 03:30 PM, said:

Hey, you've got enough sports games on the Wii! Just remember, you've got WiiSports and very soon Mario Strikers Charged. :D

The Mario version of football doesn't really look right though. Didn't the Gamecube version have a feature that let's you score two goals at once? That just doesn't feel right to me. I'd much rather have a real game of football than the one offered in Mario Strikers.

[Sea of Time]

Obviously you're not a sports fan Aqua. :D

We need our pure, real life, play-as-the-real-athletes sports games! Because simulators just have that extra pizazz that I need!

[Aquamarine]

You've been watching Foster's Home for Imaginary Friends, haven't you SoT? Pizazz...

And no, I'm not a sports fan, but I WAS just joking about the Mario Strikers thing. That's why I put a :D there. I don't really like the Mario Sports games either.

[Sea of Time]

Yeah, yeah I know. And no, I don't watch Fosters. I invented the word pizazz.

Mario Strikers isn't really enough, especially for me.

[Aquamarine]

You invented pizazz? Oh, come on... Bloo has been using it far before you have.

So, I remember you saying that you might actually never get a Wii. Is there a greater chance of you getting one now? You are one of the people I most want to play against online.

[Saturos S.]

I probably won't get one. Just too lazy. I'll probably get my friend to buy one, play there. Same old story as with the Gamecube/PS2.

[TheEnglishman]

Nothing's appealing to me at the moment. I thought I'd pick one straight away but I'm just not warming to anything at the moment.

[Aquamarine]

Dude... Twilight Princess? Have you forgotten about that?
And don't forget that pretty soon there will be many more good games released: Mario Galaxy, Metroid Prime 3, Brawl, Fire Emblem, BWii...

[Golden Legacy]

Not to mention plenty of third party offerings, such as the Sonic game, and this game from the makers of Killer 7. (After reading through the interview, I highly recommend going to the Videos section and downloading the trailer for No More Heroes, it gives you an idea of just how ambitious, creative, and cool this game will be.)

[My Best Wishes]

Aquamarine, on Dec 9 2006, 02:30 AM, said:

Hey, you've got enough sports games on the Wii! Just remember, you've got WiiSports and very soon Mario Strikers Charged. :)

Other shooters for Wii which'll be released soon are FarCry Vengence and, of course, Metroid Prime 3. I've played the PC version of FarCry at my friends place a few years ago and I quite liked it, so I'm looking forward to the reviews. It is made by Ubisoft.

I am really looking forward to a good FPS. I'm not going to buy RedSteel, might rent it for a night but that would be it.

I'm not going to be getting any other games for my Wii for a while. I have enough with TP, soon more 64 games will be out on VC and I'll get some of those, and today I picked up Starfox Adventures for GC for $12, my third GC game yet :D

[Aquamarine]

My best friend got a Wii today, so I'll be going over to his place tomorow to see it. Unfortunately, the only game he has is WiiSports, since the shop is getting Twilight Princess on Tuesday. He is, of course, going to buy it straight away when they get the game. I'll tell you what I think about the console tommorow.

[TheEnglishman]

Aquamarine, on Dec 8 2006, 10:08 PM, said:

Dude... Twilight Princess? Have you forgotten about that?
And don't forget that pretty soon there will be many more good games released: Mario Galaxy, Metroid Prime 3, Brawl, Fire Emblem, BWii...

Yes but I can get Twilight Princess on my Gamecube and the rest don't appeal to me enough (with the exception of Fire Emblem) to get the console.
@GL: Don't tempt me with Sonic! You know my weakness! :D Seriously though if it's an improvement on the recent outings then it may be worth it.

[Golden Djinn13]

I have to agree with Me111. Nothing on the Wii (or any of the new consoles for that matter) are appealing to me . I'm gonna wait a couple months before I decide which one I want.

[Sea of Time]

Aquamarine, on Dec 8 2006, 12:31 PM, said:

You invented pizazz? Oh, come on... Bloo has been using it far before you have.

So, I remember you saying that you might actually never get a Wii. Is there a greater chance of you getting one now? You are one of the people I most want to play against online.

*sigh* Well, first I really need to get a job. But right now I'm more invested in my girlfriend and my education than I am in video games. I haven't picked up a controller in about three months now and I have no desire to shell out three hundred dollars on a system I may never play.

Who knows what will happen when I get some disposable income, but as of right now the only way you will play me online in the next six months is if my brother decides to buy the system.

[Someone Else]

Well, I've seen a Wii "in person" today. The shop that it was on display in had no controllers, though. Strange that they would bother to put it out there without letting it be playable.

Anyway, it doesn't look as sleek as the pictures show it to be...

[Golden Djinn13]

Wind Dude, on Dec 9 2006, 08:00 PM, said:

Well, I've seen a Wii "in person" today. The shop that it was on display in had no controllers, though. Strange that they would bother to put it out there without letting it be playable.

Anyway, it doesn't look as sleek as the pictures show it to be...

Every store i've been to that has (including Gamestop, EB Games, etc.), none of them have playable Wii consoles, yet the PS3 and 360 are. Its like they don't want people to play it and like it, and that would mean more Wii's for them. (Just speculation)

[Someone Else]

That doesn't really make sense... why would they put a Wii out and not let it be playable? It makes more sense for them to use these Wiis to instead be part of the Wiis they sell, what with the high demand if you get what I mean.

[Golden Legacy]

There was some news that emerged a few weeks ago on IGN, that only Walmart would actually have public game demos for the Wii available, as most retailers were worried about possible "damage or injury".

[Someone Else]

LAME.

Doesn't anyone understand about WRIST STRAPS?

[Golden Legacy]

Supposedly, the wrist straps have been breaking off too easily with some of the remotes, resulting in them being hurtled at walls or televisions or people.

[Someone Else]

Still, it's prevention. I'd add in something terribly unorthodox about other forms of "prevention" but like I said, it's be unacceptable. :rolleyes:

[Aquamarine]

Well, I've played the Wii. My friend has been playing it since yesterday for hours and hours, and I got to play it at his place today for about 2 and a half hours. As I've said, all he's got is WiiSports, but that's enough for me to see what the console is like.
The console, Wii Remote and Nunchuk are all smaller than I expected them to be. The controllers fit perfectly into my hands. The Wii doesn't look as bad in white as I thought it would be.
Navigating all the menus with the Remote is very precise and fun. We made a ton of Mii's and that too is very a lot of fun. At first I thought there were more than enough options to make 'em, but actually there could have been more hats, noses and shirt colours. Also, I'm a bit dissapointed that they don't have any purple or blue hair or stuff like that. The hair colour is all realistic, they don't even have Links dazzling blond colour. Same goes for the eyes. My friend made me before I came over, and I can tell you, it looks exactly like me. I managed to make a guy that looks something like Link in the end, but it wasn't good enough.
WiiSports is a lot of fun. I like that in Baseball and Boxing every single unimportant movement you make is shown on-screen. Every motion you make is transfered very well to the game, except in Boxing. Your character often won't punch when you tell him too, and once his left hand wouldn't punch the enemy's face at all, it would only hit his body, no matter how I used the Nunchuk.
I brought over a GameCube controller, memory card and F-Zero GX to check how GameCube games are emulated. It works really well, as if you were playing the game on a GC, no complaints there.

Can't think of anything else to say at the moment... Any questions?

[Golden Djinn13]

This may sound kind of stupid, but I never bothered checking....but does Wii Sports come with the Wii when you the console?

[Golden Legacy]

In North America, Europe, and Australia, Wii Sports comes packaged in with the console. Japan has it separately.

[Golden Djinn13]

Golden Legacy, on Dec 11 2006, 08:31 PM, said:

In North America, Europe, and Australia, Wii Sports comes packaged in with the console. Japan has it separately.

Thats why I must have been so confused...Those poor japanese having to buy it separately. :rolleyes:

[My Best Wishes]

And it is really good. Don't be fooled just because it came free. I've spent more time playing Wii Sports then Zelda.

[Sea of Time]

Golden Djinn13, on Dec 11 2006, 07:47 PM, said:

Thats why I must have been so confused...Those poor japanese having to buy it separately. :rolleyes:

The Japanese don't give a damn. As long as they get their Wii, they don't need free crap. They're not used to it, and they don't need it.

[Aquamarine]

watch, on Dec 12 2006, 03:33 AM, said:

And it is really good. Don't be fooled just because it came free. I've spent more time playing Wii Sports then Zelda.

:rolleyes: You must be crazy. I played WiiSports for about two hours and I could see right away that it is a fun game but gets boring quite quickly. Still, it must be an excellent multiplayer game.

So after playing theii for two and a half hours I thought I would be totally amazed by it and I expected I would want the console even more. The strange thing is though, it's not like that. As much as I like the Wii and as much as I can't wait to get it, I wasn't as blown-away as I thought I would be afte actually playing it. I guess the reasons for that are that I already wanted the console a lot, I knew all about the motion-sensing and I didn't get to play Zelda. Ah well... Still can't wait. Even though I'll have to...

[Golden Djinn13]

I should be depressed right now that I don't have a Wii like aqua, but for some reason I really don't care. None of the systems have a game that makes me want to go and burn all my money on it, and if I got one I probably wouldn't find the time to play it...Although the free Wii sports does look enticing. :rolleyes:

[Sea of Time]

I'm just so underwhelmed by video games right now. I guess it's a result of not picking up a controller for months, but I really don't want any of the new systems. The most enticing thing to me is Gears of War, and Halo 3, which are both on the XBox 360. I don't want to miss out on SSBB next year, but other than that game, I have no desire to buy a Wii.

[Aquamarine]

Dude... Twilight Princess!?

@GD13: You must have misunderstood me, I don't have a Wii, I've played it at my best friends place. He has a Wii. I'm not getting one till the summer holidays.

[Sea of Time]

I want to play Twilight Princess, but it's not enough to make me want to buy the system. I'm just underwhelmed, I guess.

[TheEnglishman]

Someone asked me if I'd want a Wii as they knew I liked Zelda. I told them the same as SoT just said, it's not worth buying the console for just one good game. Maybe I'd get one after new titles have been released but not right now.

[Aquamarine]

I totally agree with that, I would never buy a console only for one good game, but just look how many great games are being released pretty soon. Still, it's always better to wait a bit until those games get released, they fix any problems the console might have and the price maybe goes down a little. That is what I'm doing.

[Golden Djinn13]

From the looks of it, they probably will make a recall on the Wii-mote straps.

[TheEnglishman]

Really? That would look pretty bad for them if they were recalled straight away.

[Golden Djinn13]

I'm guessing so, if there have been some reported accidents of them coming of and doing damage/injuries.

[Golden Legacy]

Me111, on Dec 13 2006, 01:28 PM, said:

Someone asked me if I'd want a Wii as they knew I liked Zelda. I told them the same as SoT just said, it's not worth buying the console for just one good game. Maybe I'd get one after new titles have been released but not right now.

Aquamarine, on Dec 13 2006, 02:22 PM, said:

I totally agree with that, I would never buy a console only for one good game, but just look how many great games are being released pretty soon. Still, it's always better to wait a bit until those games get released, they fix any problems the console might have and the price maybe goes down a little. That is what I'm doing.

I just would like to point out that Zelda has been selling nearly 1:1 with the console; in Canada, early reports indicated that 3 of 4 Wii buyers also purchased Twilight Princess, and in the U.S., it was something like 87% of Wii consoles sold.

[Sea of Time]

What other game would you get? We've been waiting for this title for three years now, and no other title even comes close to it's epicness.....(is that a word?)

[Aquamarine]

@GL: TP has sold with 74% of all consoles sold here in Europe. So yeah, overall, it is doing very well, just as it should. It'll certainly be one of the games I'll get when I buy the console.

@: There are a few games I'm looking forward to almost as much as Twilight Princess, and those are of course Mario Galaxy, Metroid Prime 3 and Smash Bros. Brawl. Those are four games that there is no chance I'll miss out on. Then there are games like Batallion Wars 2, Fire Emblem, Mario Party, Crystal Chronicles, Forever Blue, Pokemon Battle Revolution... which I'm looking forward to reading reviews of, since they've captured my interest. There are also games which have only been confirmed are in the making, but almost nothing else is known about them: Animal Crossing, Mario Kart and StarFox.

[TheEnglishman]

I just looked at a gameplay video for WarioWare: Smooth Moves and I'll admit that it does look pretty fun. Maybe a game like that will push my interest in a Wii forward.

[Golden Djinn13]

I never really liked WarioWare games. They just seemed a bit boring and like any other game with mini-games.

[My Best Wishes]

SoT has a good point. The only other games I considerd at launch were COD and RedSteel. However seeing COD has no multiplayer and RedSteel had such mixed reviews I only got Zelda.

I'm really pissed of with the Virtual Console. I looked everwhere to find a update day for the VC in Australia, it happened today. There was a handful of crap Nes games and some more Sega games. There are at least 3 of those crap puzzle games.
These types-
http://www.nintendoland.com/graphics/screens/wwoods_1.gif

Sidenote- Got Pro in Wiisports Bowling! My last game I got 9 out of 12 possible strikes.

[zepula]

I couldnt buy Zelda because I'm getting it for Christmas, although I'm getting it for free, I've had to wait over a month...
The next game I'm buying is Wario Ware, I love Wario, Wario Land 4 is one of my fave platformers, and Ive bought every Wario Ware game, the original and touched are my favorite, so Im confident that the Wii version will be great. And I know Im getting Brawl and Animal Crossing, whenever they come out...and any others are all possibilities.

[I'm Always BROKE]

I'm getting my Wii in about 20 minutes! YAY! =D

[Golden Djinn13]

Have fun DK, and from what I heard here, stay away from Red Steel.

[Golden Legacy]

Or better yet, buy Red Steel, to encourage Ubisoft to create a better sequel.

[I'm Always BROKE]

Heh I've read enough about Red Steel to know it's ****, but thanks anyways. :( The game didn't even intressted me at the E3 to be honest.

Anyways, I've got my Wii! ;) And Zelda. I was at first a little bit worried about the Wolf thing, but it's cool afterall.

[Golden Djinn13]

I got a question about Zelda. Can someone explain the wolf, cause I haven't really read much on TP's storyline or anything. What does the wolf do, and how does link turn into it?

[Aquamarine]

Although I don't know much about the storyline and haven't played TP yet, I know some things about the Wolf through previews and screenshots. When entering the Twilight Realm(a kind of dark version of Huryle) link will transform automatically(I think) into a wolf. When in that form, he will be able to jump whenever you press a certain button(unlike normal Link who jumps automatically), you will be able to dig to find things hidden under ground and will attack by bitting and clawing at the enemy. Also, when in wolf form, Midna will be riding you(I don't know anything about her since I know little about the story) and helping out with all kinds of useful magic.

If anyone else has more information about Wolf Link please be careful not to post any spoilers in this topic, like attacks that you learn later in the game and stuff like that. You've got the official TP topic for that.

[Golden Legacy]

I haven't played Twilight Princess yet (again, as Aquamarine said, no spoilers please), but from what I've seen from the trailers, Wolf Link is also capable of using his senses, such as being able to smell out secret paths and digging into the ground and such.

[Aquamarine]

Oh yeah, I forgot about that. He's also able to speak to other animals in wolf form.

[Golden Djinn13]

Wow, sounds oddly like a fusion of Majora's Mask and Ocarina of Time.

Anyway, did anybody (which i'm sure you have) hear about the Wii-mote strap recall. I found out about a day ago. Its really unfortunate that they have to make a recall, and so early. ;)

[Golden Legacy]

It's not so necessary, I think. I really see it unlikely for people to break their straps, unless they really exaggerate their movements.

[Saturos S.]

Which is going to happen when kiddies play on the console. And it is... a kiddies console compared to the 360.

[Sea of Time]

Like I said before, my neighbor broke the controller by swinging it into a steel pole in their basement. Kids have no idea of how to respect expensive things, so a recall was bound to happen. Time to make the system more kid-friendly, I guess.

[Saturos S.]

Wrap it in with bubble wrap, make spunge buttons and airbags built in. That'll protect the controller.

Or just say to the parents that it is their own fault.

[Golden Djinn13]

They did make it kid friendly, but to an extent this time (Unlike the GC). I guess kids would be more likely of getting a little over excited with the movements, but I did see quite a few on the news, that were adults that broke television sets with it. Unless they put to much force in their movements....Sucks to be them. ;)

[Sea of Time]

Yeah, the 'Wii have a problem' page posted a couple pages back had a lot of examples of people swinging way too hard. You can't put all your trust in the strap, it is prone to human error in its use and its manufacturing.

[Aquamarine]

Only idiots that have no self-control can brake something with the Wiimote. I mean, all you have to do is not to swing it too hard, and hold the remote only a little tighter than you would any other normal controller. It's your own fault if you fling your arm around, letting the remote just dangle from the wrist strap. Because it really sounds like they were doing that.

[Golden Djinn13]

Easier said than done in some cases, as some people might have sweaty palms, and can have the controller slip out of their hands.

[My Best Wishes]

Why would you swing that hard anyway? Well, hard enough for the strap to break, it's just silly.

You can just get a sillicon case for them, that's what I'm doing...

[Saturos S.]

People do get over enthusiastic. Ecspecially when it's their first time. When playing Wii sports tennis or baseball, you could swing a bit.. enthusiastic.

[TheEnglishman]

Well surely products are meant to be tested for this sort of thing before hand? I'll admit that people will play in different ways, but they must have thought that some people will swing harder than others?
I read a story in the paper today that the controller can be affected by Christmas lights. I guess that's something that no one expects. <_<

[Sea of Time]

I know if I had a Wii, I wouldn't be swinging really hard, but I would do the full motion with my arm. Wrist movement would be great for a game like Metroid, but with Wii Sports, I wouldn't be able to resist swinging (not too hard after reading some of the 'Wii have a problem' stuff).

[My Best Wishes]

Well I'm typing this via the wii internet channel. It's not bad. Typing is slow but usable, I think I might only use it for small things like checking hotmail. Just leaves the news channel now, hopefully it will be more up-to-date then the weather channel which is not accurate.

[Aquamarine]

Wow, you sent that post from your Wii? Cool. I've read about the Forecast Channel not being very accurate, but having the whole globe to look at sounds like fun. Even though it's fun for probably the first 10 minutes or something... When is the News Channel being released, by the way?

[My Best Wishes]

Aquamarine, on Dec 23 2006, 02:37 AM, said:

Wow, you sent that post from your Wii? Cool. I've read about the Forecast Channel not being very accurate, but having the whole globe to look at sounds like fun. Even though it's fun for probably the first 10 minutes or something... When is the News Channel being released, by the way?

Yea using the Internet channel (Beta), It's great because it can support youtube and things.

The Forecast Channel for me was very unaccurate. It was saying Melbourne was Fine and 26, while it was 35 and we still had smog blanketing the state because of Bushfires. But I'm sure it will be usefull...maybe.

News Channel

The News Channel allows users to access news headlines and current events obtained from the Internet.[4] The news is automatically updated and viewable via WiiConnect24. The News Channel will be available in North America and Europe on January 27, 2007, with content provided by Associated Press. [5]
(From Wikipedia, Article)

[Blue]

My impression of the Net Channel:

Its a good start. Being a beta, it already shows alot of promise. You can see most flash and even some youtube. I'm going to try to hook a keyboard to my Wii soon.

[Toasty]

I saw a Wii steering wheel on Gamestop.com, and it's in stock too. I've yet to see the elusive Wii gun though.

[Sea of Time]

Well, the remote is awfully close to the shape of a gun, so I don't see as much of a need for a Wii gun. But still, I'm sure a third party accessory company will make one, for a quick buck.

[Golden Legacy]

Mr.T, on Dec 25 2006, 08:46 PM, said:

I saw a Wii steering wheel on Gamestop.com, and it's in stock too. I've yet to see the elusive Wii gun though.

Sea_of_Time, on Dec 26 2006, 06:57 PM, said:

Well, the remote is awfully close to the shape of a gun, so I don't see as much of a need for a Wii gun. But still, I'm sure a third party accessory company will make one, for a quick buck.

Rumors have suggested that Capcom is working on Wii Resident Evil title that will use the light-gun accessory.

[Sea of Time]

Is the Wii Resident Evil title related to Resident Evil 5?

[Golden Legacy]

I believe it's an independent title at the moment, a "spin-off" title, so to speak.

But that could all change.

[Sea of Time]

I hope so, because Resident Evil 5 sounds great. Considering that RE4 is one of my favorite games ever, it would be great if it was similar to that.

[Aquamarine]

As far as I know RE5 isn't being released for Wii, so Capcom is making a "spin-off", as GL put it. I wish they would just make a normal Resident Evil.

[Golden Legacy]

They're probably just waiting to guage all the system's success.

Remember the DS? How most people predicted it would fail?
Now look. The next entry in Dragon Quest, the most popular series in Japan, isn't even coming to a console, it's coming to the DS, which has had almost unprecedented success, and has been trumping the PSP in all regions.

[Aquamarine]

You do know that Dragon Quest is also in the making for Wii, don't you? Here, check this out:

http://www.wiisworld...est-update.html

Looks like it can be quite good if you ask me.

[Golden Legacy]

That, too, is a "spin-off" game off of the main series. I'm talking that the next true entry in Dragon Quest (Dragon Quest IX) is coming to DS, which was a huge announcement.

Think of the Wii game as what Final Fantasy: Crystal Chronicles was for GameCube. It had the Final Fantasy name, but obviously not a "true" entry in the series. Same thing here.

And yes, I'm aware that there is also a FF:CC game coming to Wii too. ;)

[My Best Wishes]

And that better be worth it seeing as Square went to Microsoft.

Is that DragonQuest really on the DS? The graphics are amazing.

[Echo_djinn]

lol I heard the one of the best Games for the WII is Dragonball Z? Is that true.

[Aquamarine]

Well, considering that the Wii doesn't have a lot of games at the moment it might be true.

@watch: The link I posted has pictures of Dragon Quest for Wii. The DS DQ looks a bit like Golden Sun in terms of graphics.

@GL: Hey, do you know that a DS Crystal Chronicles is being released too!? ;)

[Golden Legacy]

Aquamarine, on Dec 28 2006, 08:38 AM, said:

@GL: Hey, do you know that a DS Crystal Chronicles is being released too!? ;)

LOL. My God, this is so confusing. So many titles and spin-offs, it's hard to keep track of everything.


@ ED: DragonBall Z for Wii is a decent game, and a great one if you're a fan of the series. The game has an immense cast of characters (120, wow), and even considering different forms of the same character (i.e. Goku, SS Goku, SS 2 Goku, etc.) it's still chock full of DBZ goodness, with characters, stages, and plenty of unlockable features.

The controls, with a little practice, begin to work very well. On my friend's Wii, one of my favorite moves was pulling back the controller/nun-chuck to begin Goku's Kamahamaha technique. Totally sweet.

[FlamingDuck]

I''m having a crappy time trying to find a Wii...I've checked everywhere from small local game store to Circuit city and K Mart. HALP!

[TheEnglishman]

Weird. They're pretty widely available in Britain. Maybe they just aren't as popular.

[FlamingDuck]

I think its all the annoying people coming from other states for sales tax free shopping...Dang them!

[Golden Djinn13]

FlamingDuck, on Dec 30 2006, 02:40 PM, said:

I think its all the annoying people coming from other states for sales tax free shopping...Dang them!

I do that all the time. Since most of the surrounding states have cheaper stuff and are free of certain taxes. But thats mainly for clothes....Anyway, I can't find any Wii's available either, except online. I didn't think it would be that hard to find em.

[Luna]

A friend just sent me this:

http://wiikitty.com/wiikitties.html

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[gsninja]

*gasp* They're so cute! I want one! D=

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Anywho, video game companies have lately been releasing lots of games for different systems, too. Dragon Quest VIII on the PS2, then a new Dragon Quest for the DS for example. I'm actually expecting great things from the Wii now, as well as other systems.

[Sea of Time]

Every system seems to have a bright future, but the one thing you need to worry about with the Wii is longevity. While the PS3 and assumably the 360 are built for the long run, the novelty of the Wii may wear out. However, if they keep reinventing it with new games and maybe even two SSB games in a cycle! (gasp!) It could last just as long as the other two!

[Aquamarine]

But why would the novelty wear out so much that people become bored with the Wii? I understand that in 2-3 years motion sensing won't be as special as it is now, but really, you could apply the same logic for a normal controller. The Wiimote will become a normal way of playing games, just like the 360 and PS3 controllers. When that day comes Wii will continue to sell well because of the games it has, not because of the Wiimote.

[Sea of Time]

I understand your argument, and in response I'll just say that the path of the Wiimote in the eyes of gamers can go one of two ways. One way is that it is accepted as a legitimate form of gaming, and the other is that it is cast aside, much like the Virtual Boy fifteen years ago.

[Golden Legacy]

Wii has already sold through over three times as many units as the VirtualBoy did, and its support and hit titles over the coming years guarantees it to at least match the GameCube's success.

Iwata said that he is aiming for around 40 million units globally sold in a few years.

[Caael]

But it's like all fads. They all start off heavily marketed and all the money put into selling it, and once they get a few million in there, they start to give up, just raking in the cash and gradually the advertising gets worse and more people are less likely to want to part with their money. I know, as my maths coursewrok was based around game console sales. That until I changed my coursework completely, but I got the facts. The first few months for all the consoles sold more than the other months put together. Just because the Wii is new and different, doesnt mean it wont end up like that.

Oh yeah, got my Wii 3 weeks ago =D Best console evar.

[Sea of Time]

The Wii could change gaming fundamentally for a long time to come. But that will all come down to the games that come out, to make sure it's not just a fad.

[Caael]

Good point. Though the motion sensor could change gaming forever and for lots of companies to follow it, it doesnt necissarily mean that they will all be as successful as the Wii. Its like somebody learning to do something totally new, and then everybody copies them, and suddenly its not as great.

[Sea of Time]

I think Sony already pretty much copied the Wii-mote with their "Sixaxis" controller. I would be surprised if Sony came out with a Wii-mote clone. But, I wouldn't be surprised to see Bill Gates bandwagon in a couple years if the race is still close (after Halo 3).