[Eugine]

I was just wondering, if any of those countires had to go to war who will turn out the victor. I'm talking about head to head with another country with no allies etc.

[MysticWarrior]

Ehh... From what I heard, not just because I live there, but U.S. seems to be the most powerful in militant might so far...

[Luna]

Japan doesn't even have an army. After the US re-wrote their constitution, it was prohibited for them to have one. They only have a..self defense force or seomthing o.o;

[EDIT]
And can't you say U.S. instead of America?

I find it insulting because I live in another part of America -.-;

[TobiasMar]

Sheba, on Jun 27 2004, 08:14 PM, said:

Japan doesn't even have an army. After the US re-wrote their constitution, it was prohibited for them to have one. They only have a..self defense force or seomthing o.o;

[EDIT]
And can't you say U.S. instead of America?

I find it insulting because I live in another part of America -.-;

They do have one, otherwise, they wouldn't be in the Cold war or be in the war on terrorism.
Anyway, the Germans were very powerful for just themselves in WWII, but America is still powerful.

[Luna]

I said they have a self defense force. But their constitution states that they can't have an army. (same as the country I live in @.@)

[TobiasMar]

Sheba, on Jun 27 2004, 09:14 PM, said:

I said they have a self defense force. But their constitution states that they can't have an army. (same as the country I live in @.@)

ANd where would that be? Germany? Canada? Mexico?

[MysticWarrior]

Central America? Heh, I'll go add U.S. on there.

EDIT: Dude, you put England and France in there TWICE!

[Iloverpgs]

Well you see how I look at it is different,I dont think there is a "most powerful"country reason why if EVERYONE went into war it would be like world destruction and well America wouldnt be the strongest(especially right now)and nor would other countries be the strongest.

But if you select wich one is the best by who is the most powerful overall than I would say USA.

[Golden Legacy]

I don't wish to sound harsh... but does it really matter? I mean, in the end, humanity would be tainted (as if it already isn't)...

But ah well. I feel the United States is. Japan would be, with their technology, had they not been limited (as Sheba stated and Gimli clarified) to do so.

[Neo]

I didn't vote... you know why? people always forget one country, best of all! anyone remember Arnhem? Nijmegen? yes! The Netherlands!

[Izar]

Lol,

The USA, we are dominating almost every other country. Not that it's good, but, we are like, getting too strong.

And sheba, we refer to ourselves as Americans because would we refer to our selves as United Americans? No thanks.

[Elliott]

U.S.A IS THE ULTIMATE NATION!!!!!!!111ONEONE...

sorry, but they would definatley win.

[Andross]

That list is extremely off in accuracy. Japan has no army, America isn't specific, France wouldn't fight, England isn't the superpower they used to be, ONLY North Korea could really apply, and Germany also doesn't have an army (due to treaties from WWI and WWII).

So I'll include my own countires, and then, it depends. Let's see what we have here:

-China, with the indespensable army of communists that measure about 1 billion
-North Korea, the trigger happy communists who depress their people to force 'em to work
-Pakistan, radical muslims with the ability to fire nukes*
-India, with the radical gov't that could fire nukes *
-Iran, the uncooperative country of terrorist harboring that could fire off nukes pretty soon
-Israel, with their unsurpassable military skill and expensive equipment
-Saudi Arabia, a country of terrorists. Virtually only terrorists. Who might have nukes.
-Russia, a struggling country try to pull out of debt and a depression, rather than launch their dusty nukes.
-U.S., a country of *mostly* cool-headed patriots, and would only fire when shot at. And when that happens, run like hell.

Personally, if we set nukes aside, and really pitted these countries, the real tough call here would be U.S. vs. North Korea or China. China has 1 billion firggin' people and North Korea has an army of mindless robots.

*Note: Pakistan and India would only fight each other.

[Luna]

and Andross just stated clearly all that I needed to say @.@ *applause*

[TheOnlyJaz]

Quite possibley the most stupid question ever. The USA is the big bully of the playground with or without allies. The only competition would be China because of the massive population or Israel etc because of suicide bombers.

[Nemphtis]

Judging from info I've heard from the past years, the U.S Army has the strongest military power with high recources, thousands of personel, some of the most advance tracking and spy systems worldwide, and of coruse some bad-ass allies (The British, you gotta love us!) :(

[Izar]

True to that. Not only that, but We have the second best Air force. it's second to Israel.

[Colonel Tycho]

It will definitely be japan. If there is a war between USA and Japan, there wont be any videogames from Japan. This will lower morale in the army and in the civilian populace, and cause another generation of hippies.

[Andross]

TheOnlyJaz, on Jun 28 2004, 06:42 PM, said:

Quite possibley the most stupid question ever. The USA is the big bully of the playground with or without allies. The only competition would be China because of the massive population or Israel etc because of suicide bombers.

Israel doesn't have suicide bombers. Those are Palestineans. If we went to war with Israel, they would help us, because they want the Israelis to give them land.

Colonel Tycho: What are you smoking? As said, Japan doesn't have an offensive army. Only a defensive force. Not only that, but soldiers in Iraq, the Gulf War, Desert Storm, and Vietnam didn't/don't have video games, so what makes you think video games would make a difference?

[Izar]

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Israel doesn't have suicide bombers. Those are Palestineans. If we went to war with Israel, they would help us, because they want the Israelis to give them land.

Colonel Tycho: What are you smoking? As said, Japan doesn't have an offensive army. Only a defensive force. Not only that, but soldiers in Iraq, the Gulf War, Desert Storm, and Vietnam didn't/don't have video games, so what makes you think video games would make a difference?

lol, exactly, yet, Palestinians hate the U.S. Israel, on the other hand, likes us a bit.

Plus, we got Mircrosoft and Eidos...

[Nemphtis]

Andross, on Jun 29 2004, 03:16 AM, said:

Colonel Tycho: What are you smoking? As said, Japan doesn't have an offensive army. Only a defensive force. Not only that, but soldiers in Iraq, the Gulf War, Desert Storm, and Vietnam didn't/don't have video games, so what makes you think video games would make a difference?

Umm...I think he was just joking, and if he's serious, someone needs to brush up on history. :P

[Dullahan]

I voted for USA although Dullahan's secret nation of ninja stoats would kick all their ass' simultaenously!

Back on topic USA does everything now with his president's loyal terrier Mr. Blair.

[Nemphtis]

Yes, the man who reminds me of a Chimp everytime I see him! :(

[Dullahan]

The stupid ape-dog bush bumming *******,should be voted out at the next election but there's no one to replace him. He's better than the other "person" in my sad excuse of a country.

Don't use the S*** word, please. -Nick

[Elliott]

That will most likely get you a warning Dullahan, it was really uncalled for. I see nothing wrong with howard, bush or blair, I think they're all doing a might fine Job!!! What, you think we should just let terrorist run loose all over the world?

[Luna]

Bush doesn't support the Kyoto Protocol DDDD:

That's evil T.T

[Dullahan]

Maybe it was unnessecary, it is simply an exagerated form of my opinion. My apologies to all those offended.

[Stephen the Swift]

Korea is one of the more economically built countries in that list, but since the presidents impeachment Korea has decreased with power. Meh My grandma is from North Korea making me 1/4 north korean 1/4 south korean but lets not get to that

[Alex]

Sorry to all you othewr people, but US would win.

[Mycarayne]

i went russia, coz ive always likes it there. but if it was on there, i would of siad Australia. The Americans dont know it, but we have been assembling Nukes right under there noses.... Mwa ha ha ha ha. Sorry, Im just kidding. Yeah, Kidding... thats right. heh heh *gulp*

[ForteGX]

Why do I get the feeling that this topic will eventually start an forum-wide war?

heeheehee...Bush...monkey...

[Nemphtis]

Nu-uh, Tony Blair is the Monkey, Bush is the Monkey Pimp.

[Dullahan]

i refuse to comment as if i did comment it would be like my last comment and i'd get a warning for sure.

[Eugine]

Bush is just leading America into economy problems, whilst if Kerry wins he's going to lead them away from God...

[kate]

the war in Iraq was soooo stupid!!! bush just wanted to have a war cuz his daddy did. phish. they would win tho. is canada even up there (not that we would win <_<)? and you can't spell countries. just my little nit picking, i'm done now :(

[Izar]

Actually, He did it for a reason. Did you also know that clinton wanted to, but was never able. Bush has done some bad things, but Clinton was worse. Bush has lowered taxes to a low, not the lowest, but pretty low. I know more On bush because I live in the state that he was govenor of, Texas. He was the best govenor by polls, along with some others, and Kerry was one that said he would make a good president...

Kerry sucks bad apples in my opinion. Why? Because he SAYS he is going to do all this great stuff. He SAID he threw away his vietam metals because he hated the war, they are in his office in an Oak frame. He said he hates the war in Iraq, HE wanted to send more troops. Notice, John F. Keneedy... John F. Kerry... JFK...

Kerry toured a shuttle that supplies space station—He Voted Against it.

http://www.johnfkerrysucks.com/ a real site

It's kinda rude of a site. Lol, I heard this on the news: "Only 2 of John Kerry's 23 fellow Swift boat commanders from Coastal Division 11 support his candidacy today" Drudge Report - It's on the site too.

I'm not catholic, but this is another site I found: http://www.catholicsagainstkerry.com/

You know the gruesome abortion ways? He's for it... And you do not want to see the pictures.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/op-ed/20040...81953-1305r.htm

Anyone ever read TIME Magzine? They had an issue on how Bush puts religion into his decisions. Well, Every president is recorded to do that. Linicoln did it ALOT. Read his speeches and read the letters he sent to generals during the war.

Anyways, U.S.A! Yeah... We're strong.... we got issues... but who doesn't?

[Golden Legacy]

I agree with Kate, the war against Iraq was costly, had nearly a thousand casualties that could have been avoided, and overall was not necessary.

Bush only did that to take advantage of the petroleum, which rightfully belongs to them.

[Tellus]

meh, I frankly don't like Bush or Kerry
Bush turned a huge surplus into a dephicet, and his tax cuts haven't stimulated anything, spending is still going down
Kerry flip-flops too much for my taste
I'm sick of them both, and if I hear or see anything more about either one I'm gonna vomit
:angry:
^_^
:silence:

[Izar]

lol, VOMIT! eh, Kerry annoys me too much. Flip-Flop... that's what every one is saying, lol, good way to put it.

[Tellus]

ehh, just calls em' as I sees em'

[Andross]

Izar, on Jul 29 2004, 06:17 PM, said:

Actually, He did it for a reason. Did you also know that clinton wanted to, but was never able. Bush has done some bad things, but Clinton was worse. Bush has lowered taxes to a low, not the lowest, but pretty low. I know more On bush because I live in the state that he was govenor of, Texas. He was the best govenor by polls, along with some others, and Kerry was one that said he would make a good president...

Kerry sucks bad apples in my opinion. Why? Because he SAYS he is going to do all this great stuff. He SAID he threw away his vietam metals because he hated the war, they are in his office in an Oak frame. He said he hates the war in Iraq, HE wanted to send more troops. Notice, John F. Keneedy... John F. Kerry... JFK...

Kerry toured a shuttle that supplies space station—He Voted Against it.

http://www.johnfkerrysucks.com/ a real site

It's kinda rude of a site. Lol, I heard this on the news: "Only 2 of John Kerry's 23 fellow Swift boat commanders from Coastal Division 11 support his candidacy today" Drudge Report - It's on the site too.

I'm not catholic, but this is another site I found: http://www.catholicsagainstkerry.com/

You know the gruesome abortion ways? He's for it... And you do not want to see the pictures.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/op-ed/20040...81953-1305r.htm

Anyone ever read TIME Magzine? They had an issue on how Bush puts religion into his decisions. Well, Every president is recorded to do that. Linicoln did it ALOT. Read his speeches and read the letters he sent to generals during the war.

Anyways, U.S.A! Yeah... We're strong.... we got issues... but who doesn't?

CLINTON was worse? What!??! Yeah, even though the economy reached an all-time high, small businesses were booming, crime was low, poverty low, unemployment at a record low, the world was at a relative peace, and more people were better educated, he was still bad because he had some adulterous relations. Yeah, whatever :unsure:

As well, Kerry never said he threw his medals away. He said he threw another person's medals away. But we don't know if this guy could've had his limbs blown off so he couldn't do such a thing. We don't know if Kerry kept his medals just because he felt he deserved 'em for volunteering for the War and the Swiftboat and deciding to save a comrade. Next off, Kerry wants to send more troops because he knows there's no turning back now, and if we want to keep the peace, we can't thinly spread our troops in Iraq, because that's how it is now. Note that we agreed at first because he thought the CIA provided proper intelligence. WHOOPS! They lied behind everyones backs, and now he's angry.

As for the shuttle supplies, I bet you don't even know where funding was being pulled FROM. A lot of these times that Kerry has voted against bills, it was because the funds would be pulled from either education funds, police funds, and other types of vital resources that keep our country running smoothly. Kerry is obviously the only Senator who actually reads through bills, because a Congressman actually said that they never read any of the bills; they take the President's or Vice President's word for it most of the time.

Last of all, are you stupid enough to take the word of sites that arrogantly state their biased hate for Kerry? Moore isn't the only one who splices quotes. The media is corrupt, and has been doing it forever. Don't take your word off of sites that sound arrogant from the sound of their domain. Find an actual news source, like NPR or BBC.

[Izar]

Are you even into polotics

The following are true:
small businesses were booming
poverty low
the world was at a relative peace

Ha, so you think you know more about those polititions on that site. yeah whatever.

The following are not true:
Crime rate was at an all time low - Untrue. While president, clinton did not find any way to reach my home state (Texas), or the following: Florida, california, and some other state... new jersy i think.. Infact, he left it all to bush.

On your second paragraph:
The shuttle supplies

Yes he did say that, twice infact. Before he went to that veteran thing at the white house.

Kerry is obviously the only Senator who actually reads through bills-

Let me tell you about it, Kerry actually doesn't infact, he said himself he does not have the time, or so i read.

"Next off, Kerry wants to send more troops because he knows there's no turning back now"

There is. He publicly announced stuff as "We must leave the war" and stuff, we are pulling out this moth and ext anyways, and he still wants to send more. I hate what he said because that means my brother would have to go, and I don't want that. He wants the marines to stay behind, and pull out every one else. My brother is a marine, and he doesn't like that at all.

"Last of all, are you stupid enough to take the word of sites that arrogantly state their biased hate for Kerry?

Calling me stupid, is stupid. You would not mind if a site like that would say the same thing about bush. Look who's biased now.

Found this on a david letterman site (cbs)

Quote

Top Ten Real Reasons John Kerry Is Running For President


10. To bring renewed tedium and uncertainty to the Democratic party

9. Vows to be the greatest horse-faced President since Polk

8. Couldn't live with himself if he didn't hold a higher office than Schwarzenegger

7. Needs an excuse to get out of a wedding in February

6. Get elected, eat a ton of waffles, become the fattest President

5. Long days on the campaign trail beats sitting around being nagged by the wife to put away the socks

4. An unusually persuasive horoscope told him he should

3. Did you know if the President kills some guy in a bar fight the FBI will make it cool?

2. A leader who supports both sides of every issue is a friend to all Americans

1. Show the world not all Democrats are ass-grabbing womanizers

Back To June 2004 Archive

Some aren't funny, like 1 and 2.

http://www.cbs.com/latenight/lateshow/top_..._20040615.shtml

[Andross]

Izar, on Jul 30 2004, 12:50 AM, said:

Are you even into polotics

The following are true:
small businesses were booming
poverty low
the world was at a relative peace

Ha, so you think you know more about those polititions on that site. yeah whatever.

The following are not true:
Crime rate was at an all time low - Untrue. While president, clinton did not find any way to reach my home state (Texas), or the following: Florida, california, and some other state... new jersy i think.. Infact, he left it all to bush.

On your second paragraph:
The shuttle supplies

Yes he did say that, twice infact. Before he went to that veteran thing at the white house.

Kerry is obviously the only Senator who actually reads through bills-

Let me tell you about it, Kerry actually doesn't infact, he said himself he does not have the time, or so i read.

"Next off, Kerry wants to send more troops because he knows there's no turning back now"

There is. He publicly announced stuff as  "We must leave the war" and stuff, we are pulling out this moth and ext anyways, and he still wants to send more. I hate what he said because that means my brother would have to go, and I don't want that. He wants the marines to stay behind, and pull out every one else. My brother is a marine, and he doesn't like that at all.

"Last of all, are you stupid enough to take the word of sites that arrogantly state their biased hate for Kerry?

Calling me stupid, is stupid. You would not mind if a site like that would say the same thing about bush. Look who's biased now.

Found this on a david letterman site (cbs)



Some aren't funny, like 1 and 2.

http://www.cbs.com/latenight/lateshow/top_..._20040615.shtml

Crime wasn't at an all time low, that was exaggerated, but America was still in good shape. And I haven't even seen anything done about crime anyway. All I know is Dallas is dealing with the crime itself at the moment (where I live).

Quote? I don't really remember that. But I find it a bit disturbing that he threw OTHERS anyway <_<

As for reading bills: He must've read enough, because again, those bills would pull funding from vital areas.

And there is no turning back, because if we leave Iraq right now, it would go into total chaos. If the friggin' world would hurry up and stop droning about what we did was wrong and whatnot, it would be easier, but otherwise, I don't think Kerry would do something as imoral as that. He has a 'loose-cannon' wife afterall <_<

Last, how do you know I would not mind if a site said biased things about Bush? I never even mentioned Bush in my post. If I were biased as well, why would I say Moore splices quotes? If I were biased, I would probably be blindly praising him for 'a job well done.' Not calling him a fact distorter (which he does do).

On David Letterman: I don't see your point in displaying those. They're funny, and not meant to be serious. If you thought that they were 'humorously true,' then I suggest you tune into the Daily Show on Comedy Central.

[Eugine]

w00t good debate, well I don't think America will stay strong for long the way its going.

[Lightning Star]

*chants* USA! USA! USA! hee hee. i think the united states will win. (again i am very good at stating the obvious) :D

[Water Wizard]

No one ever puts my backgrounds in! One's holding the Olympics and onesh talksh like thish. The Netherlands and Greece. But why did you all vote for the U.S? I mean Korea has NUCLEAR BOMBS people!!!

[summoner of darkness]

i'de have 2 say the u.s. they got so many nukes. thats the only reason. they have aboot 50 times more nukes than any other country.

[Andross]

Water Wizard, on Aug 4 2004, 04:49 PM, said:

The Netherlands and Greece. But why did you all vote for the U.S? I mean Korea has NUCLEAR BOMBS people!!!

AND SO DOES THE U.S.! And we can produce them LEGALLY!

Quote

i'de have 2 say the u.s. they got so many nukes. thats the only reason. they have aboot 50 times more nukes than any other country.

Strength isn't determined by how many nukes a country has. Because if we were to use nukes everytime we went to war, then the Earth's enviornment would be seriously injured, and nuclear winter could be caused easily. Otherwise known as a lose-lose situation.

Strength is determined by number of troops, the extent of training the troops have had, and the technology available. Since the number of troops doesn't matter, and it's more about experience and technology (the Civil War is a prime example, as the South almost won until Lee made a bad decision with Gettysburg).

Though there is a point where numbers can make a big difference in the end, seeing as China could easily make a freakishly huge army. Civil War, again, is an example. The North was so much exponentially greater than the South and had so much more supplies, that the South would've come down in the end even if Lee avoided Gettysburg.

Which is why I'd say it comes down to the U.S. and China.

[Chaos Legion]

ill have to say...U.S from what ive heard are the strongest.......but if my race of aliens came to earth i believe they would win.....i dont believe in aliens, so yeah, i wasnt serious....but i would prefer the world to be at peace forever!

[Eugine]

:P Well well, I'd have to go with Andross, cause I've been hearing from someone (don't know if they are reliable) that China has over 4 million people in their army.

[Echo_djinn]

they may have the ppl but grmany and korea have connections anyways wars at the back of my head and beside all the countries signed a thingy saying they can't have anymore wars.

[Izar]

Water Wizard, on Aug 4 2004, 10:49 AM, said:

No one ever puts my backgrounds in! One's holding the Olympics and onesh talksh like thish. The Netherlands and Greece. But why did you all vote for the U.S? I mean Korea has NUCLEAR BOMBS people!!!

US does too, LOTS more.

Germany has NO army, just a type of nation gaurd.

4 million? Where did you get that? Well, in a way, your right, because in China, you HAVE to be part of the army. But if you mean fully trained fighters, there are fewer than you think.

[Echo_djinn]

the only way that there will be another war is if some1 tells geroge bush that hes a wacko cause i think he is...

[Izar]

I don't. Maybe it's because most people here never see the OTHER side of things. Instead of drawing conclusions, read :blink:

[Echo_djinn]

I could but i never have the time(i shouldn't judge ppl like that)plus i dont take care to politics

[Izar]

My point, no one cares, but they always seem to know, but never do. Oh well. Anywas, U.S. Owns all... Well, In the power since.

[Giro888]

US has a bad president. He sent almost all our troops to Iraq. I totally think that's a lost cause. However we do have a lot of nuclear weapons- more than just about anyone else does right now... But even with nuclear weapons we are weak with a president like George W. Bush- the retard!!! Why do you think he sent all the troops to Iraq anyway, and I still don't even know why the Iraq war was started... It's costing America over 3,000,000,000 dollars right now :(

[Aquamarine]

Woot, uber revive!

Yep, the US would destroy all. Considering that, it's funny that the world thinks that Korea is like the biggest danger to humanity.

'nuff said by me, I'll just run away now. *runs away*

[Toasty]

Giro888, on Mar 3 2007, 08:14 AM, said:

US has a bad president. He sent almost all our troops to Iraq. I totally think that's a lost cause. However we do have a lot of nuclear weapons- more than just about anyone else does right now... But even with nuclear weapons we are weak with a president like George W. Bush- the retard!!! Why do you think he sent all the troops to Iraq anyway, and I still don't even know why the Iraq war was started... It's costing America over 3,000,000,000 dollars right now :(

You have no idea why we're even in Iraq, do you? Sure, Bush has done a few dislikeable things, but who would you rather have? John Kerry, or George Bush?

[Golden Legacy]

You're asking whether you'd rather have the war veteran as a President, or the one who had no idea what Iraq would bring?

[Someone Else]

Toasty, no matter what, George W will be remembered as a sub-par and perhaps the worst president in history. Historians think he is, I really take their opinion seriously.

[Wiflewood]

Giro888, on Mar 3 2007, 04:14 PM, said:

US has a bad president. He sent almost all our troops to Iraq. I totally think that's a lost cause. However we do have a lot of nuclear weapons- more than just about anyone else does right now... But even with nuclear weapons we are weak with a president like George W. Bush- the retard!!! Why do you think he sent all the troops to Iraq anyway, and I still don't even know why the Iraq war was started... It's costing America over 3,000,000,000 dollars right now :(

Paraphrased as: "I hate what I can't understand"

Yeah, America is probably the Strongest Military country, both in the respect that they have a large Military power, and that they are not afraid to use it.

[Golden Legacy]

I should point out that the United States has been sending an additional fleet of naval ships to "secure" its presence in the Persian Gulf, not too far off from Iran.

It looks like the administration is considering another "reminder" to the world that the United States can "flawlessly" execute a military operation.

[Wiflewood]

They'll be in Iran by the end of the year.

[Eugine]

Damn, my poll really sucked... I didn't make that poll! (I was 14 then... imagine that!)

Anyway, I think it'll be very, very bad for America if they go to Iran now. Most likely they'd let Israel do the dirty work.

[Lemontime]

Way to leave out Australia.
With our bushy-eye-browed PM, we're unstoppable!!

[Hirosho]

question for "america" Which America, South or North

[Lemontime]

West.
That's right.
WEST AMERICA!
Pants.

[PDM]

Gimli the Great, on Jun 27 2004, 07:19 PM, said:

ANd where would that be? Germany? Canada? Mexico?

I officially **** my pants in laughter after reading that post.

[Toasty]

Wind Dude, on Mar 3 2007, 01:56 PM, said:

Toasty, no matter what, George W will be remembered as a sub-par and perhaps the worst president in history. Historians think he is, I really take their opinion seriously.

Tell me this. How many historians are liberal?