[Someone Else]

Discuss what games you think are underrated.

The most underrated game EVER that I own would be The Neverhood. This game is extremely imaginative, very funny, and just awesome to look at. Screw 3D games with next-gen graphics, I like looking at all the clay creations. It's a mystery game like Myst, but better. Also has very funny voice acting. I've had this game for a while, my parents bought in 96 and played it for a while, but at one point it got scratched and our computer couldn't read it. Our computer has been upgraded since then, including new disc drives, and apparently these new disc drives have more tolerance to scratches, since I just beat it.

Another underrated game is Dark Messiah. I'll admit though, I don't actually own it, but I've played the demo and my friend is looking to get it.

[Eugine]

I really can't say since I buy all my games based on reviews, especially when it's a new series. I love all the games I buy, and they're usually highly praised by everyone.

But lets see... Age of Empires III was excellent for me, but all of my friends underrated it. To this day I find myself playing AoEII multiplayer rather than AoE3.

[TheEnglishman]

Civilization IV is underrated. It got great reviews but doesn't get talked about as much as it should.

[Split Infinity]

The most obvious one of all: Golden Sun.

[Aquamarine]

Golden sun had excellent reviews.

Eugine, on Aug 31 2007, 04:22 AM, said:

I really can't say since I buy all my games based on reviews, especially when it's a new series. I love all the games I buy, and they're usually highly praised by everyone.

Same here.

Anyhow, do you mean underrated in reviews WD, or in sales or what? If we're talking about reviews than most of the Pokemon games. They never got very good scores. Still who cares when they're selling like crazy? If we're speaking of sales, then definitely F-Zero GX. So much was put into that game, so much effort and money and time and it barely left the shelves.

[Lemontime]

Snowboard Kids on the N64.


God damn that game was great..

[Someone Else]

Aquamarine, on Aug 31 2007, 03:50 AM, said:

Anyhow, do you mean underrated in reviews WD, or in sales or what? If we're talking about reviews than most of the Pokemon games. They never got very good scores. Still who cares when they're selling like crazy? If we're speaking of sales, then definitely F-Zero GX. So much was put into that game, so much effort and money and time and it barely left the shelves.

That game I posted up there, The Neverhood, got awesome reviews and even won a few awards, yet it sold terribly. On the other hand, Dark Messiah didn't get the best reviews yet it's still fun. Mostly I was thinking sales, but it doesn't have to be.

I'm not quite sure what you're talking with there Pokemon. Pokemon games get good scores, and if anything Pokemon is probably overrated. It's the same thing every time yet it still sells millions.

[Golden Legacy]

Aquamarine, on Aug 31 2007, 06:50 AM, said:

Golden sun had excellent reviews.
Same here.

Anyhow, do you mean underrated in reviews WD, or in sales or what? If we're talking about reviews than most of the Pokemon games. They never got very good scores. Still who cares when they're selling like crazy? If we're speaking of sales, then definitely F-Zero GX. So much was put into that game, so much effort and money and time and it barely left the shelves.

Good example Aqua. While F-Zero GX was a fantastic game with huge production values and effort, Mario Kart: Double Dash had much less review scores (7.9 vs. F-Zero's 9.3 on IGN, for example), yet sold about ten times as much. Really unfair.

[Someone Else]

I don't really care what reviewers say anymore. I'll read about the game, but I skip the opinions. I'll let my own interests and my friends find good games for me.

[TheEnglishman]

I think Destroy All Humans is underrated. It obviously 'borrows' ideas from GTA but it's still entertaining.

[Aquamarine]

Wind Dude, on Aug 31 2007, 06:12 PM, said:

I'm not quite sure what you're talking with there Pokemon. Pokemon games get good scores, and if anything Pokemon is probably overrated. It's the same thing every time yet it still sells millions.

You're quite right, but even the first Pokemon games got lower scores then they should have. I agree they're pretty much the same thing though, and seeing as every Poke game sells millions of copies I can't say I'm really sorry for the games getting lower reviews than I believe they should have.

I'm REALLY sorry for F-Zero GX though. I just can't say this enough. That game deserved to be one of five best selling GC games, it was that good. I honestly don't see why it sold so poorly. It should have sold way better than Double Dash, Mario Sunshine and even Wind Waker.

[Golden Legacy]

^ Wind Waker. No way. That's an unappreciated game if there ever was one. There's something about the game that was simply not found elsewhere - it's more than just the cel-shaded graphics. The whole presentation of the adventure was so unique and different, I even found myself longing for some of that as I played Twilight Princess (though the latter was ultimately the better game).

[Someone Else]

I haven't played Wind Waker, but I just love watching it in action, it's just amazing to see it. I don't know why so many people bash on it's graphics. I guess it's a love it or hate it kind of thing, but I'd like more games to take the art style WW has.

[Aquamarine]

Golden Legacy, on Aug 31 2007, 10:24 PM, said:

^ Wind Waker. No way. That's an unappreciated game if there ever was one. There's something about the game that was simply not found elsewhere - it's more than just the cel-shaded graphics. The whole presentation of the adventure was so unique and different, I even found myself longing for some of that as I played Twilight Princess (though the latter was ultimately the better game).

I know you love Wind Waker, but I don't really see why. Don't get me wrong, it's a great game and all, but not as good as you say. It was WAAAAY overrated in reviews. Although it was one of the funnest games I've ever played, it was just do darn short and easy and it felt like a lot of things were missing. They obviously hurried with the creation of the game already after the second dungeon, since it afterwards didn't have as many cool ideas and touches as it did in the beginning and all the items in the second half of the game are from old Zelda's. The "amazing" depth the characters had because of the faces they made only worked for Link, Tetra and a few others. Heck, the people in Clock Town in Majora's Mask were much fuller of life and emotions than the people of Windfall.

There are many, many more things I can say about Wind Waker, but I'm going finish now. Everyone has a right to their own opinion. I'll just add that Wind Waker was probably the worst Zelda I've ever played. Though I still loved it.

[Split Infinity]

Aquamarine, on Aug 31 2007, 08:50 PM, said:

Golden sun had excellent reviews.

Oh, sorry, most underRATED game of all time. I was basing that on sales.

[Golden Legacy]

Aquamarine, on Aug 31 2007, 05:00 PM, said:

I know you love Wind Waker, but I don't really see why. Don't get me wrong, it's a great game and all, but not as good as you say. It was WAAAAY overrated in reviews. Although it was one of the funnest games I've ever played, it was just do darn short and easy and it felt like a lot of things were missing. They obviously hurried with the creation of the game already after the second dungeon, since it afterwards didn't have as many cool ideas and touches as it did in the beginning and all the items in the second half of the game are from old Zelda's. The "amazing" depth the characters had because of the faces they made only worked for Link, Tetra and a few others. Heck, the people in Clock Town in Majora's Mask were much fuller of life and emotions than the people of Windfall.

There are many, many more things I can say about Wind Waker, but I'm going finish now. Everyone has a right to their own opinion. I'll just add that Wind Waker was probably the worst Zelda I've ever played. Though I still loved it.

Of course we're entitled to our opinions, but I just want to defend WW in this different way.

Wind Waker, at its best moments, rivaled that of any other Zelda played, in my opinion. Don't think of it in terms of how it ultimately turned out, think about the entire aspect of it. An almost painting like setting and flow of the environments, realistic emotions, amazing draw distance, etc.

Think of it this way - if WW had as many dungeons as Twilight Princess or Ocarina of Time, and was as difficult and as long - then, pound for pound, WW completely blows them out of the water. It's just so different.

[Lemontime]

And Wind Waker was just so damned good..

<3

[Toasty]

I'd say Wind Waker was good for people new to the series since it was easier and shorter. I'm glad I bought it, and I probably wouldn't have gotten interested in the LoZ series without it.

NFS: Porsche Unleashed was and is a great game in my eyes. The tracks were stunning and lifelike, and the level of customizeation for the cars bordered on real life. I'm not sure what it got in reviews, but a lot of people I know who have played more current NFS titles, like Most Wanted, would rather play the newer ones. But personally, I'd much rather play Porsche Unleashed.

[Someone Else]

Golden Sun sold well, stfu about it selling bad.

[Split Infinity]

Noob...

[Aquamarine]

First off, I have to apologize for turning this topic into a Wind Waker debate, but I can't just stop now. I have to prove my point.

Golden Legacy, on Sep 1 2007, 12:26 AM, said:

Think of it this way - if WW had as many dungeons as Twilight Princess or Ocarina of Time, and was as difficult and as long - then, pound for pound, WW completely blows them out of the water. It's just so different.

You may be right about that. Then again, you're telling me to imagine Wind Waker as a much better and very different game. One could say that about any video game. But the temples of WW were so small and bland compared to the temples of OoT. Just compare the Wind Temple to Spirit Temple. Spirit Temple was so big, atmospheric and just plain awesome, while Wind Temple had nothing very interesting or new.

Every Zelda I've played had a different, but distinct feel to it. WW had the least pronounced and worst feel to it, worse than OoT, MM and maybe even Minish Cap.

[Caael]

The Custom Robo games are very underrated. They're just so much better than some of the otehr RPGs out there.

[Toasty]

Aquamarine, on Sep 1 2007, 03:19 AM, said:

the temples of WW were so small and bland compared to the temples of OoT. Just compare the Wind Temple to Spirit Temple. Spirit Temple was so big, atmospheric and just plain awesome, while Wind Temple had nothing very interesting or new.

For a newb to the series, like me (well, I had played a little bit of some of the GBC games), those dungeons were pretty big. Especially the tower of the gods and the wind temple. But, like I said, it was my first console zelda, so I guess it just depends on your background. Infact, I probably would rather play WW over OoT or MW because of the larger and harder temples. Heck, the main reason I left the game alone for so long was because I got fed up with the tower of the gods. Since though, I've gotten to gannon's lair. But I've only been able to even get to one boss.

[Aquamarine]

You mean, the final boss is too hard for you to beat? Wow, you should shun video games out of your life if you're so bad at them... Just kidding, but I really can't understand that. ALL of Wind Waker seemed to me as if it was made for eight year olds.

And Toasty, you should download OoT and MM for Virtual Console. Really, you don't know what you're missing out on.

[Toasty]

It's not that, the bosses were all easy, at least after I got back into it and finished the tower. It was getting through the dungeons that was hard. I still can get to the grass boss in Gannon's Lair. Almost got to the lava guy though. I haven't touched the game in at least a year though. Maybe two.

And not all vg's are hard for me, I'm just better at strategy games than most other genre's of games. Save for SSBM of course. And I'm decent at Guitar Hero. But I suck at Halo.

[Envy]

I really don't think Wind Waker is underrated. It got good reviews and a lot of people say it's one of the best Zelda games ever. I have to disagree with that. It wasn't a bad game, but definitely not the best, IMO.

I guess you could say I rarely play underrated games, unless you consider Golden Sun an underrated series.

[Mallick]

halo 3

[Someone Else]

^ Rofl

I don't know if I'd say Golden Sun is underrated. I guess it is, but I know at least 3 people in real life who have played it. Not bad for an RPG on the GBA.

[Split Infinity]

Compared to a certain futuristic Xbox shooter, which nearly half of the people at my school have played. That's about 200.

[Someone Else]

Halo is overrated, so I guess in comparison, like, half of the games in existence are underrated.

[Mallick]

the pokemon franchise too