[Drizzy Drake]

So I was playing the Simpsons game, and Comic Book Guy points out alot of video game cliches. So I thought what is everybody's least favourite cliche. Mine would be exploding barrels. Why the **** do bad guys always have exploding barrels right beside their headquarters, or supercomputers, or other items of importance :(

[TheEnglishman]

(I wanted the Simpsons game for christmas...)
I pointed this out in the other topic, but spiky haired protaganists annoy me.

[Drizzy Drake]

It wouldn't be an RPG without a spikey haired(and mostly blonde at that) protaganist.

Also double jumps. That is physically not possible. Yet everybody does it. Conspiracy. I think so :(

[Golden Legacy]

The young lad with the simple life in a faraway, peaceful village, suddenly has the destiny of the world weighing on his shoulders.

[TheEnglishman]

It's strange that any obstacles facing the hero can always be dealt with by his equipment.

[Drizzy Drake]

The worst weapons can always be used to defeat the most powerfull of creaturs(RPG's especially)

[Someone Else]

Video game characters can run for a really, really long time and not even look like they broke a sweat.

[Drizzy Drake]

How can characters hold massive swords and armour in their pockets.

[My Best Wishes]

Golden Legacy, on Dec 28 2007, 09:37 AM, said:

The young lad with the simple life in a faraway, peaceful village, suddenly has the destiny of the world weighing on his shoulders.

And yet simple villagers send the lad on a meaningless quest like fetching the chickens before they will help.

[Folcon]

Long, dragged out side quests that result in a rare item that only bosts stats by a few points and serves now perpuse.

Equipment found in late dungeons is often weaker then what you already have.

[Split Infinity]

An ordinary oak staff will do more damage than a mythril sword.

[/FFXII]

[Caael]

CPUs are physically inable to drive vehicles (Halo)

[Blue]

Your team mates are just meat bags wasting ammo.

[Caael]

Lazy ass programmers will make CPUs say the same 3 lines over and over.

You can find a massive battle axe hidden in a pot.

You can change armour in less than half a second.

You can carry massive objects in your backpack without slowing them down. I think this explains it best.

Keys will drop out of holes in the ceiling when you push a block somewhere.

You can kill hundreds of monsters in one room, but when you exit and reenter they're all alive again.

[Drizzy Drake]

I just noticed this last ngiht while playing COD4. In almost all "realistic" FPS, you can take damage then go someplace safe and you always seem to heal to full strength. Like wtf

[kate]

the boss in rpg's having a specific weakness to a weapon. I'm thinking hacking something with your sword should be effective no matter what the species.

[Drizzy Drake]

Dont most bosses in RPG's can just be killed with your sword.

I think that's more of action RPG's and action games. But I could be wrong

[Caael]

Drinking a bottle of red liquid can stop hemorrhaging, heal broken bones and seal up wounds.

[Drizzy Drake]

In some RPG's saving involves writing in a journal, book, or whatever. Well why can the only write in the book or journal in the world map and not in towns or dungeons

[Caael]

Why does time never pass during most games? I mean, you can stand still in a level and the sun will stay in place.

[Drizzy Drake]

LoZ solves that:).

[TheEnglishman]

I've always found that one strange. There's one part in Rogue Galaxy where you've got to stop a girl from being sacrificed, but you can take hours to reach this ceremony and she'll still be alive when you get there.

[Drizzy Drake]

Why do bosses actualy allow you to get into their lairs. Why not set up traps where if you try to enter you die. No escape. Just death.

[TheEnglishman]

They're also perfectly willing to wait in their rooms for you. At least Ganondorf found a novel way to pass the time by learning to play the organ. ^_^

[Drizzy Drake]

Also. Why do bosses put save points in front of their rooms. You'd think if they were evil enoguh to try adn rule the world they would be evil enough to make you start the dungeon over if you got killed.

[Split Infinity]

Do you realise that if all of these cliches were banned, video games would suck?

[R-dog]

Yeah, but we can still make fun of them.

NPCs saying things like "Press start to open the menu!" or "Press A to swing your sword!" Honestly, what would you do if someone said that to you?

[Split Infinity]

Heh, I don't know what I'd do. Probably turn around looking for some fat German kid.

[Moonear]

Why do bosses have an obvious weak point that you can destroy really easily?

People that are on your side will charge you huge amounts of money for an item that you reaaly need to save the world.

How come when a monster dies, it leaves you coins or an item? (Like in GS)

[Split Infinity]

1) Yeah...

2) Because they think you're going to win.

3) Probably because they looted other people...

[kate]

why do monsters disappear when u kill them? shouldn't there be tons of bodies lying around?

and even if the monsters looted others, where are they storing it? in their various pus sacks?

[Split Infinity]

They eat it along with the entrails. e_e

[kate]

then how do you get it from them? do you rummage through their corpse? i would also like to point out that in LoZ when you defeat a boss you get a heart. is it their heart? are you collecting DEAD PEOPLE'S HEARTS???

maybe that's why link doesn't talk <.< his soul is drenched in sin

[Split Infinity]

Well the monster would be pretty sliced up by the time you killed it, so I imagine it wouldn't be too hard to just fish it out.

[kate]

still it's a pretty morbid idea if you think about it. People are getting all up-in-arms about manhunt...link is a serial killer.

really you don't hear about ganon killing anyone, but that's all link does.

[Split Infinity]

Link wins on self-defence every time.

[kate]

what about in ffxii where you have those little bunnies and things that can help you. does anyone else just slash them to death every time? no? just me? alright.

what i'd like to know is how ganon was so agile in windwaker considering how much he weighed.

[Split Infinity]

Hey, I only killed those bunnies to get them in my Primer. And maybe for the experience.

[kate]

ahh well then that's entirely justified ^_^

ooo what really gets me is in rpg's when the girls always have weak defence. they're not necessarily weak overall, but always weaker strength and defence.

at least ffxii had the right idea and had scantily clad men instead of just women :(

[Moonear]

When you sleep for the night, all your wounds and sicknesses are healed.

[kate]

even better, u spend two seconds asleep and it's day again. i mean in gs they even go through the whole getting into bed process sometimes...just get it over with.

[Lightning Star]

Why are animals always monsters? Seriously. Like maplestory. You have to kill some poor little snail or piggy. Or the vermins in Golden Sun.

The cliché I always see is something that's overly righteous. Like "Evil never prevails!" or my favorite, "The power of love and friendship!" followed by a major boost in HP and attack.

[Golden Legacy]

Me111, on Dec 28 2007, 08:11 PM, said:

They're also perfectly willing to wait in their rooms for you. At least Ganondorf found a novel way to pass the time by learning to play the organ. ^_^

lol, so true.

Ever notice how in most RPG's, you tend to have only three or four people out of the entire party battling? You'd think if people were to be fighting monsters they'd make it a team effort for everyone to participate in, not just the select three or four.

[Split Infinity]

Only problem with that is it would get kind of annoying having your entire party of 12 or so constantly running behind you.

[kate]

where do they keep the items?! U can be carrying 4 swords at any point. Where do u hold it? Link was smart to split himself up

[Lightning Star]

Yeah, why didn't Kraden ever fight?! Seriously, he was always like "Oh, you guys go ahead, I'll just watch while you all die against a three headed salamander ^_^"

[kate]

he was old and crippled, give him a break. Of course he could've been used as a human shield.

[Lightning Star]

Seriously, that would have been amazing. You look through your equipment and there should have been a Kraden. You could equip him as a shield, or eat him for psynergy replenishment!

[Caael]

Well midna carried all links stuff when he was a wolf, but not when he's a human...wth.

Surely enemies get bored standing around in a dungeon, with nothing to do until somebody comes along and kills them.

Put a fishbowl on your head and OMG YUU CAN BREETH IN SPAYSE!

[Moonear]

lightningstar, on Dec 29 2007, 01:46 AM, said:

Yeah, why didn't Kraden ever fight?! Seriously, he was always like "Oh, you guys go ahead, I'll just watch while you all die against a three headed salamander ^_^"

That's why "I hate kraden"
Why does the main characters home town always have to get destroyed or infested with monsters?

[Laharl]

ihatekraden, on Dec 29 2007, 04:55 PM, said:

Why does the main characters home town always have to get destroyed or infested with monsters?

so they can learn the ways of a hero from a conviently local academy

[Caael]

A pistol is always considered the worst weapon and a rocket launcher the best. While in terms of strength, yes, but in reality, it depends on the caliber, the bullets used, the actual power of the gun, the accessories etc. No, a pistol cant blow up a tank with a single shot but could silently take out the leader or something.

I'm being really technical today.

[Someone Else]

^ You pretty much can't kill a tank in Crysis without some C4 and/or a rocket launcher. You can ruin the engine by shooting the barrels at the back of the tank with any gun, but that doesn't destroy, just makes it slower.

Are these really cliches? ^_^ Well, whatever.

How about those FPS where the main character has had no previous military training or even having a history holding a gun before? Yet he can shoot a gun fine, and even run and reload at the same time. (and in the dark, to boot!) cough Gordon Freeman cough

[Drizzy Drake]

WHy in the Elder Scrolls games, you can kill people, and you serve only like, a couple days in jail, then you do it again, and you only serve a couple days in jail. Plus they give you your freaking sword back. Like wtf.

[Drizzy Drake]

Why do almost all games set in fantasy lands have no guns and all have magic(Except for maybe FF7 and up, and a few other games), but games set in modern lands, even though the games be so unrealistic, still have no swords and no magic. Did people just say **** magic, guns are better.

EDIT-Didn't mean to double post.

[kate]

well people normally associate magic with a fairytale medieval land, so the rest sorta goes with that. as for the modern games, it would kinda take away from the atmosphere of the game wouldn't it?? Master chief running around yelling 'crucio' or something

[Caael]

Wind Dude, on Dec 29 2007, 11:29 PM, said:

^ You pretty much can't kill a tank in Crysis without some C4 and/or a rocket launcher. You can ruin the engine by shooting the barrels at the back of the tank with any gun, but that doesn't destroy, just makes it slower.

Are these really cliches? :lol: Well, whatever.

How about those FPS where the main character has had no previous military training or even having a history holding a gun before? Yet he can shoot a gun fine, and even run and reload at the same time. (and in the dark, to boot!) cough Gordon Freeman cough

And you can shoot the fuel tank on the back of a truck to blow it up

Because everybody knows how to fire a gun under the right circumstances.

[Folcon]

I got one for you, why is it that in many RPGs, the boss's room in the dungeon often has platforms advantageously placed to attack them from.

[Caael]

Well the bosses dont exactly form the platforms themselves.

[Drizzy Drake]

In Jak and Daxter they do.

[Caael]

Well in some of them they do.

Oh and btw, its not the bosses who put the weapons in the temple. In TP, the gorons put the hero bow in the temple as their sacred treasure. And i'm pretty sure another zelda item was a sacred item put in there. Yeah, it was the mirror shield in OoT and MM by the Gerudos and stalfos respectively.

[Drizzy Drake]

But you'd think that after years of being in their temples or whatever, with their many creatures, they'd discover the weapons and destroy them, or atleast put them somewhere where nobody could get to them.

[Caael]

You wouldnt like being locked in a room with only 1 key either, would you.

[kate]

Well I kinda am. or at least I spend enough time in my room that I could be locked in here :)

This is kinda game specific, but in windwaker you can spend days on your boat. WHERE'S THE BATHROOM?

or in dugeons for that matter. Or any houses you go into.

[Laharl]

kate, on Jan 2 2008, 02:50 AM, said:

This is kinda game specific, but in windwaker you can spend days on your boat. WHERE'S THE BATHROOM?

or in dugeons for that matter. Or any houses you go into.

you knows those pots in people's house? they're not just for storing rupees.......

[Folcon]

In some games, GS included, some of the optional bosses are stronger than the final boss.

[Caael]

The final boss doesnt always have to be the strongest.

[Aquamarine]

In TP Link doesn't have a bed in his house while everybody else does. Poor guy.

[Caael]

Link's too hard for beds.

[Toasty]

In response to some of these, sleeping doesn't always cure EVERYTHING. It doesn't cure poison or curses in GS. And I lol'd at masterchief using magic. XD

Why doesn't an enemy only take damage instead of dieing when you clearly slashed right through him? Why isn't he cut in half?

[Split Infinity]

How come a Pokemon can withstand even the most apocalyptic of attacks, yet it can still die of old age and other factors?

[Ironsight]

In RPGs, how come nobody ever helps you (besides any party members you might have). You'd think that saving the world/universe would be important enough.

[Caael]

If the secret to re-living is in a bottle of water, then why dont the bad guys have one?

[Drizzy Drake]

Well technically in the Zelda games it's fairies, and you don't really see many fairies in the bosses dungeons, too fluffy.

[Moonear]

Why do bad guys always leave such gigantic weak spots?

[Drizzy Drake]

To compinsate for their small...

















































...penis. Ha you all though I was going to say something else, but nope I said it.


Why in RPG's the characters can withstand lightning storms, being burnt by fire, giant creatures punching them, but a simple poison can kill them within minutes.

[TheEnglishman]

I'm not sure if one on one boss battles are really a cliche because they aren't that overused, but when you have to play as a character you don't usually use, they sure are annoying.

[Mallick]

Skidzorz, on Jan 5 2008, 04:20 PM, said:

To compinsate for their small...

...penis. Ha you all though I was going to say something else, but nope I said it.


Why in RPG's the characters can withstand lightning storms, being burnt by fire, giant creatures punching them, but a simple poison can kill them within minutes.

I thought you couldn't have a bajillion spaces like that because it's against the rules. Silly me.

[Caael]

The bad guy in RPGs will never have an actual reason for wanting to take over the world. They just do.

[Drizzy Drake]

Earth Dude, on Jan 13 2008, 07:03 PM, said:

The bad guy in RPGs will never have an actual reason for wanting to take over the world. They just do.

Sephiroth is made at being an experiment, so he wants to take over the world that had used him. :ph34r:.

Why in RPG's the people just wait, and let the other team attack, it makes no sense. Nobody in real life is going to jsut wait while the other person attacks.

[Eugine]

Earth Dude, on Jan 13 2008, 08:03 PM, said:

The bad guy in RPGs will never have an actual reason for wanting to take over the world. They just do.

Power?

Skidzorz, on Jan 13 2008, 08:05 PM, said:

Why in RPG's the people just wait, and let the other team attack, it makes no sense. Nobody in real life is going to jsut wait while the other person attacks.

You mean in turn based RPGs? Most RPGs now use an active time system, if you do not select an attack, you get attacked.

[Drizzy Drake]

.eugine, on Jan 13 2008, 07:09 PM, said:

You mean in turn based RPGs? Most RPGs now use an active time system, if you do not select an attack, you get attacked.

True dat.


Alright, why can characters in video games take alot of damage, RPG's and not, and still not die.

[Caael]

If you want power, become the head of a business corporation, then slowly take over smaller companies. Lot less difficult than trying to take over the world and having to fight a gang of teenage kids with spiky hair and wooden clubs. I mean, how humiliating would that be? Getting beaten by a 15 year old with a wooden stick.

[Drizzy Drake]

Earth Dude, on Jan 13 2008, 07:16 PM, said:

If you want power, become the head of a business corporation, then slowly take over smaller companies. Lot less difficult than trying to take over the world and having to fight a gang of teenage kids with spiky hair and wooden clubs. I mean, how humiliating would that be? Getting beaten by a 15 year old with a wooden stick.

Ganondorf must be hella embaressed by now then.

[Eugine]

Mostly everyone died while playing a game. We are just experiencing the story if we succeeded. If anyone here went through any game without dieing, you are awesome.

[Caael]

I feel bad for Bowser. He just looks scary and big, he doesnt want to take over the world he's just in love with peach. Doesnt Mario understand that?! LEAVE BOWSER ALONE!!

[Folcon]

I once beat Street Fighter II without losing a match.

[Caael]

So why's that a cliche?

[Folcon]

its not, i was just commenting on eugine's somment, you just got yours in first.

[Caael]

.eugine, on Jan 14 2008, 01:25 AM, said:

Mostly everyone died while playing a game. We are just experiencing the story if we succeeded. If anyone here went through any game without dieing, you are awesome.

I havent died while playing Overlord yet. My minions have, but they're meant to.