Alienware Curved Monitor 2880 x 900 gaming goodness
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Posted 07 January 2008 - 05:55 PM
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Posted 07 January 2008 - 06:06 PM
#3
Posted 07 January 2008 - 06:09 PM
How would that go for just regular internet browsing and multimedia things? :S
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Posted 07 January 2008 - 06:10 PM
#5
Posted 07 January 2008 - 07:29 PM
I've always though it'd be so cool to have peripheral vision in an FPS! This is what I've been dreaming of. Seriously, I'm psyched though I know I'll never get one.
Excellent find, GL! You're my favorite person for the day. <_<
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Posted 07 January 2008 - 07:42 PM
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Posted 07 January 2008 - 08:32 PM
#9
Posted 08 January 2008 - 12:27 AM
HOWEVER. I'm in love with this monitor. I'm only frustrated that Alienware made it. D:
#11
Posted 08 January 2008 - 01:27 AM
Also, a laptop doesn't physically have as much potential as a PC. The fact that the components are bunched together means excess heat that can't be easily dissipated. The fact that heat builds up more easily in a laptop means that the components can't physically run as fast as they would in a PC. All laptops that I know of have integrated graphics, which are usually toned down versions of their PC cousins built to be more portable and run cooler. They also can only have one hard drive, makeing storage more expensive. RAM for laptops is also more expensive.
Overall, the BEST components available for use in laptops can't, and aren't as good as the BEST components availble for PC's. And because the components have to run cooler and fit in a more confined space, laptops are also have a worse cost to power ratio. Basically, you can have a gameing laptop, but it's a complete waste if you're a serious gamer. You get WAY more for your money by getting/building a PC. Therefore makeing a "gameing laptop" a giant heap of wasted cash, and therefore not a "real" gameing machine.
If you want a laptop, get something that can handle what you'd be doing when you aren't gameing.
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Posted 08 January 2008 - 01:30 AM
#13
Posted 08 January 2008 - 01:39 AM
And as far as I know, people use their laptops while they're in a car, as long as they're not driving. At least, that's what everyone that I know who own's a laptop does. Besides, if you have a PC at home, why use your laptop instead of the PC?
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Posted 08 January 2008 - 01:46 AM
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Posted 08 January 2008 - 01:57 AM
The absolute only reason to get a laptop in my opinion, is if you really need it to be portable. Like if you were in college or something.
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Posted 08 January 2008 - 02:05 AM
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Posted 08 January 2008 - 02:13 AM
If you get a REALLY good, and I mean TOP of the line laptop, it'll last 4, maybe 5 years at the most before needing to be replaced. And I DOUBT that your parents will spend more than $1000. In which case, you can expect it to become a pile of junk within a couple years. 3 at the most.
#19
Posted 08 January 2008 - 02:20 AM
Mwhahaha. I love having ass loads of money.
GL, like WD said, you are my favourite person for today.
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Posted 08 January 2008 - 02:22 AM
#21
Posted 08 January 2008 - 02:29 AM
Spam King, on Jan 8 2008, 12:15 AM, said:
You haven't spent enough time with computers then. Intel is planning on haveing a 64 Core processor by the year 2011. Just three years from now. The possibility that your laptop lasts even two years before becomming garbage is almost a pipe dream. Heck, back in '01 my PC was one of THE best on the market. Cost my dad $2200, and here I am 6 or 7 years later, and it's practically a giant paper weight. It became obsolete about 3 or 4 years ago.
But that was quite a few years ago. Right now, electronics are advanceing at a faster pace than they did back in '01 to '03 or so.
#24
Posted 08 January 2008 - 03:04 AM
And I stress the term 'pretty much'.
#25
Posted 08 January 2008 - 03:46 AM
In a PC, you simply buy a new card.
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Posted 08 January 2008 - 03:56 AM
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Posted 08 January 2008 - 04:03 AM
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Posted 08 January 2008 - 04:07 AM
#29
Posted 08 January 2008 - 04:23 AM
The CPU isn't part of the motherboard. Not even in a Laptop. It connects to the motherboard through a socket. There's a number of processors that can fit into any given socket type, but you can't just grab any CPU and shove it in. For instance, an AMD processor will never fit into a socket designed for Intel CPU's. The most common socket types at the moment, for Intel's at least, are the 775 and LGA775.
On a desktop computer, the graphics card is usually connected through a PCI-E X16 slot, or an AGP X2/X4/X8 slot.
In a laptop, the chips that would normally be put on the graphics card are imbedded into the motherboard. You cannot remove them. It's called integrated graphics. But, if you have a PC with integrated graphics, you can still get a new videocard because you PC will have either one of those two types of sockets most commonly used by graphics cards. Either that, or you'll have PCI 2.0 slots.
In a laptop, you don't have any kind of slot for a graphics card to fit into. As far as I know, you've only ever been able to upgrade the GPU's (graphic processing unit) RAM, but that was in much older models. I haven't seen a laptop that had memory expansion for it's GPU, or even GDDR/2/3 RAM or the older GRAM sticks being sold.
So if you get a laptop, the ONLY thing you can upgrade is the CPU, the HDD (hard disk drive), and the RAM.
#30
Posted 08 January 2008 - 09:13 AM
nVidia has been standardizing their discrete laptop cards connector configuration, so that you can upgrade your graphics card. For example, I can take out a few screws on the bottom of this laptop and pull out the graphics card, put in a new one, and it should (in theory) work just fine.
Also, on many laptop motherboards, the processors are in fact soldered on, to insure the maximum possible heat transfer rate. As you said, heat dissipation is the primary concern for laptops, and this is one way some manufacturers choose to deal with it. I'm not sure specifically what AW does, but I would imagine they might leave it unsoldered for upgradability.
You are correct for the most part, though. Laptops parts are more expensive, generally perform less (or appear to, due to power/battery life saving measures), and are far more difficult to upgrade. However, for most people, carrying their 40+ lb case around with them is simply not an option, especially if you are flying somewhere. Even the heaviest laptops, at 8-10lbs, are not too much of a burden to carry around. And most people don't game "on the go", since the battery life would be about 2 hours. Instead, they take their laptop somewhere else (say, school, or another house, or a vacation) and then plug it into a wall socket so battery life isn't a concern and the parts don't throttle down performance to compensate.
In any case, that monitor is pretty nice, though probably going to cost as much as an expensive computer once it comes out (if it ever does). Doesn't hurt to dream though.
#33
Posted 08 January 2008 - 04:22 PM
Toasty, unlike you I don't randomly pull things apart to see how they work. <_<
#34
Posted 08 January 2008 - 04:45 PM
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Duuuuuuuuuude! Keep these things to yourself XD
Hmmm any guess on how much it will cost?
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Posted 08 January 2008 - 04:56 PM
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Posted 08 January 2008 - 05:17 PM
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Posted 08 January 2008 - 05:19 PM
#38
Posted 08 January 2008 - 06:06 PM
Spam King, on Jan 8 2008, 02:22 PM, said:
How'd you know that I do that?! ^_^
I expected it to be in the 3 to 5K range. Especially considering that it's comming from Alienware.
And I suspected that you might possibly be upgrade the graphics in a laptop, as I've seen slots where one might go sitting right next to the GPU, but I've only seen very few, and I've never seen a mobile GPU that wasn't soldered to a motherboard. But that's good to hear. It means were that much closer to being able to build laptops from scratch.
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Posted 08 January 2008 - 06:37 PM
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Posted 08 January 2008 - 07:16 PM
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Posted 08 January 2008 - 07:19 PM
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Posted 08 January 2008 - 07:57 PM
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Posted 08 January 2008 - 08:04 PM
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Posted 09 January 2008 - 05:45 PM
#47
Posted 09 January 2008 - 05:49 PM
With technology in its golden age it seems, in about 5 years I'm sure the monitor will be verry old.
#50
Posted 09 January 2008 - 06:06 PM
Edit: The link I posted was removed by Google x.x
Here's a clip
#51
Posted 09 January 2008 - 07:14 PM
Skidzorz, on Jan 9 2008, 04:03 PM, said:
More like 3 or 4. Technology is advancing pretty fast, and only seems to move faster over time.
But the resolution is pretty good. Not full HD (1080i), but better than 720p. But it's price is a little too much in my opinion. I'd pay $3k at the most.
#52
Posted 09 January 2008 - 07:15 PM
Dude of Wind, on Jan 9 2008, 08:14 PM, said:
But the resolution is pretty good. Not full HD (1080i), but better than 720p. But it's price is a little too much in my opinion. I'd pay $3k at the most.
Twas a joke.
#53
Posted 13 January 2008 - 12:19 PM
Yeah, its cool and all, but there really wasnt much point in making this, other than to prove that they can.
#54
Posted 13 January 2008 - 12:31 PM
I think businesses will buy it for events, and can be used as a loss leader to attract more people. I'm sure at the CES, Alienware got huge crowds cuz of that monitor and people discovered products they wouldn't have had without that monitor.
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Posted 13 January 2008 - 05:00 PM
#56
Posted 13 January 2008 - 05:14 PM
Say for instance there's a gaming tournament, and Alienware sponsors it then donate a few of those mointors, wouldn't that monitor atleast give you an incentive to check out other AW products?
Also, you go to an Alienware display (or website), and see that monitor, wouldn't you have a greater incentive to check out other Alienware products?
Edit: And yeah, what Toasty said too.
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Posted 13 January 2008 - 05:14 PM
#58
Posted 13 January 2008 - 06:14 PM
.eugine, on Jan 14 2008, 12:14 AM, said:
Say for instance there's a gaming tournament, and Alienware sponsors it then donate a few of those mointors, wouldn't that monitor atleast give you an incentive to check out other AW products?
Also, you go to an Alienware display (or website), and see that monitor, wouldn't you have a greater incentive to check out other Alienware products?
Edit: And yeah, what Toasty said too.
So they've made a massive loss, wasted craploads of money to advertise other products? Why bother? If they want to advertise, do it properly like the rest of us, not trying to show off.
#59
Posted 13 January 2008 - 06:23 PM
http://en.wikipedia....iki/Loss_leader
And do you honestly believe AW is going to mass produce those monitors and hope people is going to rush out and buy them? I think they are going to take orders, then produce. I'm sure the technology and design will be used in smaller, more affordable monitors so I doubt they are going to make a loss as you suggested.
Also, if done right, AW wouldn't have to pay money to advertise. Didn't you see how the tech community exploded because of this monitor? Free advertisement for AW, and its monitor and you know what? People like me who forgot about AW suddenly remembered they are part of the tech community.
#60
Posted 13 January 2008 - 06:39 PM
But seriously...I cant see a practical purpose for this, other than gaming. And for rich gamers as well.
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Posted 13 January 2008 - 07:23 PM
#64
Posted 13 January 2008 - 09:37 PM
So Caael, it's not a waste of money by them at ALL. It's good for advertiseing (heck, might've even been cheaper), and there are plenty of Pro PC gamers and just plain rich PC gamers who WILL buy this. On top of that, big buisnesse ALWAYS have money to throw around.
They may not sell craploads, but they'll sell plenty.
#65
Posted 14 January 2008 - 01:47 AM
Wind Dude, on Jan 14 2008, 02:31 AM, said:
Yeah but if its got a VGA input it can be used as a monitor.
How many rich gamers do you think are out there? If I was a gamer, I'd much rather have more games than this. Dont get me wrong, there's nothing wrong with the screen I just dont think it has much use other than for gaming.
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Posted 14 January 2008 - 02:06 AM
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Posted 14 January 2008 - 05:31 AM
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Posted 14 January 2008 - 06:33 AM
To clarify an earlier point, big businesses spend a ton of money on monitors. For example, I did an internship last year at an investment banking firm, and every person on the trading floor had at least 2 20-24" monitors, some even had 4 of them. And they were all on expensive monitor arms so they could be repositioned and moved around. So say $500 * 3 (average) = $1500/employee on monitors. From what I've gathered, the same is true at most design firms as well, anywhere where alot of data or resolution is needed at once.
#69
Posted 14 January 2008 - 02:31 PM