[Mallick]

da spam rulez teh suck?????????? tern into off-topic???????????????


dizcuss

[Sea of Time]

Re-opened, but if it goes spammy, it gets closed again.

[Drizzy Drake]

This is just the 5000th weak attempt at another TRT. Tsk, tsk. Shame on you.

[Toasty]

The spam here is starting to smell like week-old garbage. I agree with gsninja. And that's saying something comming from me.

[Mallick]

ty.

i tink da c'mon rewm is turning 2 strict!!!!! da man is tryin 2 take us down!


y is c'mon rewm gettin so strict!!!! not allowed 2 go off topic???? y!!!! discussin a sertain topic wat da off-topic is for!! gg nubsauces

[Sea of Time]

I apologize for being a part of whatever went down, but I'm starting to agree. Save it for TRT. Turn off the ability to make new topics in Common Room is what I say.

[Drizzy Drake]

Sea of Time, on Jan 14 2008, 08:11 PM, said:

I apologize for being a part of whatever went down, but I'm starting to agree. Save it for TRT. Turn off the ability to make new topics in Common Room is what I say.

I think that`s pushing it a little, some of the topics are fun, but stuff like this is really meant for TRT.

[Mallick]

dat is zo retarded.. just deleet c'mon rewm al 2gether then!!



we haz 2 stay perfecly on topic and have constructive post where post count dun count????????????????????? SO BOGUS LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Sea of Time]

Really, what it seems like is there is either going to be a Spam forum, or an Off-Topic forum. There is no middle ground. So one or the other.

[Mallick]

spam forum plzplz

[Sea of Time]

Other than Agatio deciding it was a bad idea, what was wrong with the Spam forum in the first place? If you wanted serious conversation, couldn't we just go elsewhere on the forum?

Come on GL, we're practically begging for you to post.

[Drizzy Drake]

If THIS is the reason for closing the Common Room, I will be VERY pissed.

[Toasty]

PDM, the stuff in here wasn't going a little off topic, it was going a LOT. And the majority of it wasn't even good spam.

[Drizzy Drake]

So Mallick is PDM, alright. But still, topics liek this are a little overboard.

[Toasty]

If the sex jokes stop, then most of the bad spam will leave with it.

[Sea of Time]

We all know they won't stop.

[Drizzy Drake]

NOOOO. Not he sex jokes. Say what you want about Jesus, but don`t delete the sex jokes.

[Mallick]

Okay, this noob **** is getting hard.


It's not like we're going off-topic and spamming in order to get our post count up; we go off-topic because we're a community that likes to talk to each other. If, in the common room, we needed to have completely on-topic discussion, even if it is allowed to be casual - it just wouldn't be the same. I bet without the common room we wouldn't know half about each other what we do.

'Sides, if we need to stay totally on topic, you bet there's going to be a clusterfuof topics that blow just so that we can talk about what we want without going off-topic. LAME.

[Mallick]

Dude of Wind, on Jan 14 2008, 05:20 PM, said:

If the sex jokes stop, then most of the bad spam will leave with it.

Why did the chicken cross the road?


SEX!

[Drizzy Drake]

:) Double post. Baaaad.

[Drizzy Drake]

Hypocrite.

[Toasty]

We CAN go off topic in here. Just no by as much as what everyone has been doing. Completely casual/random/entirely off topic duscussion is for the TRT. That's what it was made for.

[Sea of Time]

I say that an ultimatum is completely fair. However, there is a way to make sure that TRT is the only sustainable part of the Common Room. And that is to remove the member's right to make topics in the Common Room.

That's the middle ground.

If not, it's no Common Room, or a Spam forum. The theory that we can have a less professional Off-Topic forum failed. So what'll it be?

[Mallick]

Max didn't even give his word on this. GG MODERATORS

[Drizzy Drake]

So this really is the topic that pushed it over the edge. F**K. Mallick. Jebus Christ. Well if we HAVE to chose, make it so we can`t make topics here, that`s if we HAVE to chose.

[Sea of Time]

GL post please.

[Toasty]

Skidz, this topic didn;t push ANYTHING over the edge. It's all the pointless spam. EVERY topic is the same thing. Random jokes and innuendos that aren;t even funny anymore.

I don't think that the right to post topics should be taken away, but I DO think that the common room should have an additional moderator that's on nearly every day, and can be trusted to make the right decsions. They should ONLY be allowed to moderate the common room.

Otherwise, a system that allows a topic to be closed when three different members agree that it should be closed.

[Sea of Time]

That's too confusing. Just close the goddamn forum. TRT is the only thing worth keeping. Every other half-assed off-topic topic can be put in mature words and put in the Off-Topic forum.

FOR EXAMPLE:

Girlfriend/Boyfriend Topic ---------------> Relationship Topic

[Drizzy Drake]

Dude of Wind, on Jan 14 2008, 08:30 PM, said:

I don't think that the right to post topics should be taken away, but I DO think that the common room should have an additional moderator that's on nearly every day, and can be trusted to make the right decsions. They should ONLY be allowed to moderate the common room.

Best Idea Ever.

[Toasty]

SoT, I'm dissapointed with what's happened to the common room too, but that's still a bit extreme for even this. I don't think it's that far from saveing.

[Max]

For the record, I was not aware that the moderators were taking such actions until I was informed by one of you via IM. However, I would tend to agree with the moderators' position on this issue. In the past, we had a spam forum. We no longer do, but we decided to allow one topic for those who really cannot resist.

The rules are explicit, no spam except in specific topics. If you do not wish to abide by those rules, then you can go to other forums and engage in frivolous/spam posting. If you wish to be here, we ask that you abide by the rules. For the next day or two, I will ask the moderators to simply delete all spam posts, and issue verbal warnings via PM. Repeat and/or blatant offenders will be given real warnings. If you have real issue with this for some reason, please communicate me via PM or email, preferably with suggestions on how you would "fix" this situation.

[Ironsight]

A common room Mod? I'd rather have one of those than a closed Common room.

[Sea of Time]

That puts way too much pressure on the moderators to make sure change happens. And it just so happens that I find some spam to be a good time at certain moments. However, I do agree that it's out of hand, far out of hand, and something needs to happen.

[Eugine]

nick1presta, on Aug 23 2005, 12:33 AM, said:

This SPAM forum has been deleted. All important or relevant topics from that forum have been transfered to the new one; The Common Room.

Please observe the new topic creation rule in The Common Room (TCR) - All topics must have a purpose. This purpose can be your dog, your day, what colour shoe you have on or anything, however, you cannot create a topic and turn it into a multi-topical spam session.
If you feel you have the need to post something random, post in the now pinned That Random Topic (TRT).

Max and I feel that this should lead to more members having fun in a place where there aren't many posting restrictions.

Enjoy!

[Toasty]

^True.

And I don't think it's fair to give all the work to the mods. That's why I proposed a Common Room Mod.

[Golden Legacy]

And who would honestly be ready for being a Mod, let alone for the Common Room alone?

This person would have to be:
A ) Loyal to the rules and respected by forum members
B ) Be able to keep up with the huge amount of posting (spam or otherwise) in the CR

If this is agreed upon, we would need to spend a certain amount of time choosing the Mod. However, for now, we are following what is the new "official" policy - currently, that only verbal warnings will be given and spam deleted, and starting 48 hours from no, a NO SPAM TOLERANCE policy.

Done.

[Ironsight]

I agree with Toasty here. A new Mod only for the common room would keep some of the pressure off the other mods.

[Sea of Time]

Okay. Loyal to the Rules. No. Respected by forum members? I can only hope. And I can surely keep up.

I could do it, but I'm saying that it's serious dedication that shouldn't be put on anybody's back, even for someone who could do so.

[Someone Else]

Strict rules are good for forums with lots of active members to keep things under control. Does this forum have lots of active members? Not really, no. Therefore I think the rules need to be tamed down as a whole to for less active community. Less rules encourages more posts.

[Eugine]

I rather go to a forum that's strict and have relatively few post, than go to one with 'sex' (or similar) in every post...

Plus, no one is saying not to go off topic in the Common Room, atleast do it with good merit.

Topic: Shoes
Topic starter: Hey, I got this new shoes. Check it out.
Poster: omg, that shoes is so sexy, i want to have sex with Diddy now. x3

[Max]

Eugine is correct. Like I said before, we are not saying that you can't have fun or anything, just that you need to do so within the framework of rules we have created. Almost any topic is fair game in the common room, just stay on-topic within each thread. And for truly random, unrelated posts, using TRT. I don't think that's such a hard or restricting policy.

[Caael]

Golden Legacy, on Jan 15 2008, 02:39 AM, said:

And who would honestly be ready for being a Mod, let alone for the Common Room alone?

This person would have to be:
A ) Loyal to the rules and respected by forum members
B ) Be able to keep up with the huge amount of posting (spam or otherwise) in the CR

If this is agreed upon, we would need to spend a certain amount of time choosing the Mod. However, for now, we are following what is the new "official" policy - currently, that only verbal warnings will be given and spam deleted, and starting 48 hours from no, a NO SPAM TOLERANCE policy.

Done.

I'll do it, when i'm being serious I can control situations well.

[Moonear]

I think eugine and max have relevant points. We really should have someone who is willing to be active and keep spam under control. Not to much strictness, though, or else it won't be fun.

[Mallick]

Make sure it's a hardass, too, otherwise we might have fun.

[Drizzy Drake]

Mallick, on Jan 15 2008, 08:01 PM, said:

Make sure it's a hardass, too, otherwise we might have fun.

................shut up.

[Mallick]

Where's pacman when you need him?

[Toasty]

PDM, the spam that was previously going on wasn't fun. It was annoying. What we have at this moment in time is by FAR better than it was the day before yesterday.

[My Best Wishes]

I only just found this topic and linked it together with Eugine's chatroom topic.
So what has been decided? Just a major crackdown on spam outside of TRT?

[Toasty]

Sorta. As far as I know, the common room stays open, and we can still go slightly off topic in here. But our posts have to be related to the topic in some way.

For the next day or so, no more spam outside TRT period, though.

[Drizzy Drake]

Even though it's only been on for like a day, it seems to be working. I've seen maybe one psot of spam outside of the common room today.

[Toasty]

The problem wasn't with the outside of the common room, it was inside.

But, the stench is gone. It's refreshing.

[gsninja]

watch, on Jan 15 2008, 06:47 PM, said:

I only just found this topic and linked it together with Eugine's chatroom topic.
So what has been decided? Just a major crackdown on spam outside of TRT?

Somewhat. The mods will be deleting posts that we consider spam and give out verbal warnings. If you persist with the spam, you'll get warned. Like Max said earlier, we're not preventing you from having fun, but you still need to stay somewhat on-topic consistently at the least in every topic except TRT.

[Drizzy Drake]

gsninja, on Jan 15 2008, 09:53 PM, said:

Somewhat. The mods will be deleting posts that we consider spam and give out verbal warnings. If you persist with the spam, you'll get warned. Like Max said earlier, we're not preventing you from having fun, but you still need to stay somewhat on-topic consistently at the least in every topic except TRT.

Like, OMG, GSNinja, your Avy has a pic of a guy with a cigarette, liek that's like, a bad, you know, message for kids.






Like that.

[Max]

And might I remind people that there is no real limit to the number of threads you can post. Obviously, flooding the Common Room with new threads is frowned upon (and some may be deleted), but if you want to talk about something new, just create a new topic about it.

[Caael]

Mallick, on Jan 16 2008, 02:01 AM, said:

Make sure it's a hardass, too, otherwise we might have fun.

I laughed hard at that.

I'll take the position of spam moderator. if nobody else will. Again, i'm good at controlling situations when I get down to it.

[Drizzy Drake]

I'd vote for you.

[Toasty]

I'm not sure if we really even need one anymore. Then again, it wouldn't be bad to ahve someone keeping tabs on everything.

And Caael, you're makeing it a little obvious that you want to be the mod. :P They'll pick who they think is best. It's not a presidential campaign.

[Drizzy Drake]

Yes it is. I vote for Hilar, I mean Caeel. Sorry, I get you guys confused sometimes.

[Mallick]

^ and he's saying I put things over the line.


I don't see much reason for this to be open anymore, aside from the fact that NO ONE HAS UNWARNED ME YET.

[Drizzy Drake]

Maybe because you are not supossed to be unwarned yet?

[Mallick]

yes, yes I was

[Drizzy Drake]

Ok.

[Eugine]

PDM, warning you was fun. I miss the days ;_;
Ahh, I remember those little arguements we had over PM. Memories :P

[Split Infinity]

Do you remember mine?

[Toasty]

You warned me for insulting your country once. MD unwarned me for that though.

[Caael]

Dude of Wind, on Jan 17 2008, 02:36 AM, said:

I'm not sure if we really even need one anymore. Then again, it wouldn't be bad to ahve someone keeping tabs on everything.

And Caael, you're makeing it a little obvious that you want to be the mod. :P They'll pick who they think is best. It's not a presidential campaign.

I know, but unless they know you're interested, they wont pick you.

[My Best Wishes]

I think I've only been seriously warned once, that was by MW. It was for calling Izar and Agatio (and most of the forum) a couple of things... ah those old religion threads :P

[Aquamarine]

i agre wit pmd k?/ thxbai

[Ironsight]

Toasty, Caael and I are on often enough to be Common Mods.

[Toasty]

How many hours a week would you say you're on? Just curious.

[Ironsight]

Er, alot. At least 3 a day I guess.

[Toasty]

I'm on for about 7 hours and 15 minutes a day on average. up to 9 a day on weekends. That's from 3:15 PM to 11:30 PM.

.....holy crap, I need a life. XD

[Someone Else]

Yes. Yes you do.

I've been warned once for something I'll admit was incredibly stupid and I knew I'd be warned too. XD

I now expect this to close/posts be deleted.

[Drizzy Drake]

What were you warned for?

[Someone Else]

I forget... something to do with posting in the Assassin game topic when only Aqua was allowed to. Other people were doing it, so it seemed like the cool thing to do.


I wanna be just like the cool kids.

[Drizzy Drake]

You're cool. :P.

[Caael]

I'm online for about half an hour per day. I wont stay online if there is no new posts.

[Toasty]

I'm not on for that long EVERY day though. Sometimes we have basketball games on the weekends that the band has to play at. Other times my friend has some new idea to do with his PC that he want's me to help him on. Or Crysis. I usually post on GSSF while playing FE though.

[Caael]

I'll post when there's nothing else to do.

[Max]

I'm going to close this topic. PDM, in my IM I said "maybe" your warning would be repealed, I didn't assure anything. The moderators have told me they feel the warning was warranted, and so standard de-warning procedure will take place (warning will decrease after a month of good behavior; PM a mod/admin for reminder if necessary).

Since this topic has run its course, I'm going to close it now. Please enjoy the common room as is, and if we (the moderating team) feel that another moderator is truly needed, we will make the necessary promotions and announcements.