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    Posted 17 January 2008 - 08:16 PM

    Well everybody knows that Square is the king of RPG's, so I thought I'd make a topic to talk about all your favourite(and least favourite) Square games.

    2 games that very little people know about, but were great, were Threads Of Fate and Engheirz for PS1

    ToF was an Action RPG, that let you choose if you wanted to paly as a guy or a girl. It was a great game, but never really got alot of press because it was around the time of FF7 and 8, and was greatly overshadowed by those two games.

    Engheirz was a fighting game, that let you fight as original fighters, and as characters from FF7. I don't care what anybdoy says, this was fun fighting game, with and without the FF7 characters.

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        Posted 17 January 2008 - 08:42 PM

      this is my fav square-enix game is call drakengard here a link what the game about

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drakengard

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        Posted 17 January 2008 - 08:46 PM

        Really? I heard that was a really dull game...

        I've got six titles by Square: KH, KHCOM, KH2, FFX, FFXII and FFTA.

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          Posted 17 January 2008 - 08:56 PM

          I have FF1-12, in some fashion, Legend Of Mana, Chrono Cross and Trigger, Tales Of Fate, Engheirz, KH1 and 2 FFT and FFTA, and many games I can't remember.

          Oh and then for Enix DW 1-3.

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            Posted 17 January 2008 - 10:15 PM

            SE's best days are definately behind them, all they care about these days is re-releases and spin offs, 90'% of which involving the Final Fantasy license

            as for games i have

            Final Fantasy IV, V, VI, VII, VIII, IX, X, X-2, XII, Tactics
            Kingdom Hearts I + II
            Dragonquest VIII
            Star Ocean 2
            Chrono Trigger
            Bahamut Lagoon
            Secret of Mana
            Seiken Densetsu 3

            Erghiez was not great! It sucked beyond belief, so what you could use Cloud and Sephiroth WHOOP-DE-DO

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              Posted 18 January 2008 - 02:14 PM

              View Postlaharl the slayer, on Jan 17 2008, 11:15 PM, said:

              SE's best days are definately behind them, all they care about these days is re-releases and spin offs, 90'% of which involving the Final Fantasy license

              as for games i have

              Final Fantasy IV, V, VI, VII, VIII, IX, X, X-2, XII, Tactics
              Kingdom Hearts I + II
              Dragonquest VIII
              Star Ocean 2
              Chrono Trigger
              Bahamut Lagoon
              Secret of Mana
              Seiken Densetsu 3

              Erghiez was not great! It sucked beyond belief, so what you could use Cloud and Sephiroth WHOOP-DE-DO

              Did I say great? No. I said it was a fun game.

              Oh ok maybe I did in my first line. Well fine, to clear things up, it is NOT a grat game, but it was fun.

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                Posted 18 January 2008 - 02:38 PM

                My experiences with Square have been mainly good. FF, Kingdom Hearts, even Dragonquest was fun.

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                  Posted 18 January 2008 - 02:40 PM

                  I disliked the orginal Dragon Warrior(or Quest, whatever you would like to call it), and somewhat enjoyed the second, but the third is the one that really got me into the series.

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                    Posted 18 January 2008 - 02:45 PM

                    I must admit that I've only played the most recent game on PS2, but it was entertaining. Not FF quality but it didn't run too far from their tried and tested RPG formula.

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                      Posted 18 January 2008 - 02:48 PM

                      I jsut dislike how you don't get to see the characters during the fights. That is the main thing that ticks me off abotu the DW(Q) games.

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                        Posted 18 January 2008 - 02:51 PM

                        I disliked some of the voices in the game, especially the one for the king. The one who sounded like Ray Winstone was funny though.

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                          Posted 18 January 2008 - 02:54 PM

                          I wish they had released the FF7 remake for the PS3. The graphics were amazing, and it would get the game out to an audience that missed it completely.

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                            Posted 18 January 2008 - 05:02 PM

                            I'm not so sure. Remakes have a tendancy to be poorer than the original. Would they really be able to do all the events from the game in sugh high definition?

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                              Posted 18 January 2008 - 05:21 PM

                              Why wouldn't they be able too?

                              FF3 was remade and it was awsome.

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                                Posted 18 January 2008 - 08:22 PM

                                View PostSkidzorz, on Jan 18 2008, 02:16 AM, said:

                                2 games that very little people know about, but were great, were Threads Of Fate and Engheirz for PS1


                                read your own posts before trying to defend yourself


                                View PostSkidzorz, on Jan 18 2008, 11:21 PM, said:

                                Why wouldn't they be able too?

                                FF3 was remade and it was ass


                                fixed

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                                  Posted 18 January 2008 - 08:37 PM

                                  Wasn't crazy about the FF3 remake either (I didn't play the original). It was okay I guess. It was pretty for a handheld and that was about it.

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                                    Posted 18 January 2008 - 08:39 PM

                                    View Postlaharl the slayer, on Jan 18 2008, 09:22 PM, said:

                                    read your own posts before trying to defend yourself


                                    View PostSkidzorz, on Jan 18 2008, 03:14 PM, said:

                                    Did I say great? No. I said it was a fun game.

                                    Oh ok maybe I did in my first line. Well fine, to clear things up, it is NOT a grat game, but it was fun.

                                    I did defend myself correctly.


                                    @Wind Dude-Well, it was great compared to the original.

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                                      Posted 18 January 2008 - 08:41 PM

                                      I've heard some beg to differ, but like I said, I can't have an opinion on it when I haven't played the original. I like Golden Sun more, for what it's worth. :D

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                                        Posted 18 January 2008 - 08:42 PM

                                        I think that Square was better of as Square Soft but still, Square-Enix is great. Favourite games would be FFX and the oldschool Secret of Mana (the rest of the Mana series is terrible, although the one for Ps2 (Dawn of Mana?) has some promise, will play more of that one day)

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                                          Posted 18 January 2008 - 08:43 PM

                                          View PostWind Dude, on Jan 18 2008, 09:41 PM, said:

                                          I've heard some beg to differ, but like I said, I can't have an opinion on it when I haven't played the original. I like Golden Sun more, for what it's worth. :D

                                          Golden Sun is definetly better than the orginal 3 FF's, well in my opinion.

                                          I liked 7-10 better than GS though.

                                          @Watch-The Mana game for PS1 was good. Legend Of mana I believe.

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                                            Posted 19 January 2008 - 12:50 AM

                                            it's little known but Enix is actually the dominant company, as they purchased a very troubled Squaresoft, its merely reputation that makes people think Square are dominant.

                                            Final Fantasy VI gets no where near the respect it deserves from the ps1 generation

                                            And Golden Sun is overrated (on these boards anyway)

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                                              Posted 19 January 2008 - 12:52 AM

                                              View Postlaharl the slayer, on Jan 19 2008, 05:50 PM, said:

                                              And Golden Sun is overrated (on these boards anyway)

                                              There's a very good reason for that.

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                                                Posted 19 January 2008 - 12:58 AM

                                                View Postlaharl the slayer, on Jan 18 2008, 10:50 PM, said:

                                                And Golden Sun is overrated (on these boards anyway)

                                                Huh. Really? I wonder why... :D

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                                                  Posted 19 January 2008 - 12:59 AM

                                                  I wonder if he gets the hint by now.

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                                                    Posted 19 January 2008 - 01:16 AM

                                                    well deduced Holmes and Watson

                                                    i wonder if you'll ever contribute to a thread properly Split and lay off the lameass comments

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                                                      Posted 19 January 2008 - 01:32 AM

                                                      I thought yours seemed pretty lameass myself.

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                                                        Posted 19 January 2008 - 02:21 AM

                                                        View Postlaharl the slayer, on Jan 19 2008, 06:50 AM, said:

                                                        Final Fantasy VI gets no where near the respect it deserves from the ps1 generation

                                                        I didn't give it much respect until I got on GBA. I have to admit that I only bought it cause I saw it in the shops one day, but damn is it good! Seriously it's the best FF of the pre-playstation era and ranks pretty highly overall. I'd place it second in my list.

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                                                          Posted 19 January 2008 - 06:45 AM

                                                          Let me see. I've played
                                                          Kingdom Hearts, CoM
                                                          Final Fantasy VII, X, X-2, XII
                                                          The FF I, II and IV remakes for GBA.
                                                          FF Tactics, Tactics Advance
                                                          Chrono Trigger

                                                          I am really hoping for older remakes (especially FF7), to enjoy the games I missed out.

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                                                            Posted 19 January 2008 - 07:44 AM

                                                            If we're doing games we've played then I've done:
                                                            Secret of Mana, Sword of Mana, Childern of Mana, Heroes of Mana, Dawn of Mana
                                                            Final Fantasy III, VIII, X, X-2, XII and a whole bunch of GBA remakes.
                                                            Chrono Trigger
                                                            KH, KH:CoM, KH2

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                                                              Posted 19 January 2008 - 02:11 PM

                                                              Am I the only person here to have played Legend Of Mana?

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                                                                Posted 19 January 2008 - 02:13 PM

                                                                Haven't played any of the Mana series myself.

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                                                                  Posted 19 January 2008 - 02:41 PM

                                                                  I played Children of Mana, but it was rubbish.

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                                                                    Posted 19 January 2008 - 03:23 PM

                                                                    Basically for the Mana series, you either love it, or you hate it, there is no in between.

                                                                    Valkryie Profile 2 was also a very good Squaresoft game that I own, or atleast, I think it's a Square game.

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                                                                      Posted 19 January 2008 - 03:34 PM

                                                                      I hear the original Mana game was great but it hasn't achieved the same level of greatness.
                                                                      I'd like to play Chrono Trigger. It looks so good, but I've never had the chance. I'm hoping for a remake in some form.

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                                                                        Posted 19 January 2008 - 03:40 PM

                                                                        Well the sequel was Chrono Cross, and it was on par, if not better, than Trigger. But like I said abotu the Hack games, you will be able to understand the story, if you just play Cross, but a couple plot points will make you go "wtf" because they have to do with things in Trigger.

                                                                        They are both great games.

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                                                                          Posted 19 January 2008 - 03:53 PM

                                                                          I've always bee a guy who plays through the game in a chronological order. I'd do the same here.

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                                                                            Posted 19 January 2008 - 04:12 PM

                                                                            But that's the thing, they aren't really part of the same series. It's hard to explain. I'll explain it like I have .Hack.

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                                                                            That's how Cross is, some things from Trigger appear, but you will still understand the plot if you don't paly Cross. It's not a true sequel, like FFX-2 was, but it's not it's own game.

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                                                                              Posted 19 January 2008 - 08:19 PM

                                                                              View PostMe111, on Jan 20 2008, 07:41 AM, said:

                                                                              I played Children of Mana, but it was rubbish.

                                                                              Very true, none of the GBA or DS Mana series have been worthwhile, I can hardly comment on the Ps1 game because I haven't played it, nor the Ps2 game because I have played enough of it (although it shows promise). You absolutely must play Secret of Mana though, it's a game so good it still fetches about $80AUD on eBay.

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                                                                                Posted 19 January 2008 - 11:33 PM

                                                                                dont like Secret of Mana, its sooo damn unforgiving, mess up and your dead. the sequrls were poo though, partly because the AI programmers were colossal morons

                                                                                the originsl Valkyrie Profile was brilliant and vastly underrated


                                                                                surprised no one has mentioned Xenogears...

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                                                                                  Posted 19 January 2008 - 11:36 PM

                                                                                  Laharl, I always wanted to try that game! (Xenogears)
                                                                                  How is it in comparison to the other games I played? (Listed in previous post)

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                                                                                    Posted 19 January 2008 - 11:41 PM

                                                                                    Itsbetter than them all save Chrono Trigger and FFVII, maybe FFXII

                                                                                    really good story (kinda justifies the second disc), great battle sytem and general gameplay experience, you get to punch things with robots! :P

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                                                                                      Posted 28 January 2008 - 10:24 PM

                                                                                      Lets see, the SE games I have played are...

                                                                                      Final Fantasy: VII, X, X-2, XI, XII, tactics , tactics Advanced.
                                                                                      Legend of Dragoon
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                                                                                      Dragon Quest VIII: (Did not liked it much)
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                                                                                      My Favorite would have to be Legend of Dragoon. Even though it is a PS1 game, it has a very addictive battle system that I like, despite the weird and awkward english dialog translation. And also, this game's music is full of WIN~<3

                                                                                      I also Like Star Ocean: Till the end of Time and I enjoy VP2 very much. Chrono Cross is something I played but never finished. I need to find that PS1 disk and play it. I am working on Final Fantasy Tactics the PS1 version. Man FFT is hard! but I <3 it.

                                                                                      I personally want a FFVII redone in PS3 graphics. I mean my all time favorite Sephiroth is in it~ but I also wish that they would come up with a not so hard game that can be challenging but not. I had difficult time to play FFXII because I didn't lvl enough.

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                                                                                        Posted 29 January 2008 - 08:42 AM

                                                                                        Legend Of Dragoon was Square!!!???

                                                                                        WHHHHHAT.

                                                                                        I love that game, but never thought it was Square. Are you sure?

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                                                                                          Posted 29 January 2008 - 08:50 AM

                                                                                          Legend of Draggon was alright, battle system was pants, plot was too dragged out but otherwise pretty good, oh wait they're the key elements to an RPG, my mistake it sucked

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                                                                                            Posted 29 January 2008 - 09:23 AM

                                                                                            The battle system was fun. The attacking with the buttons was really good. And turning into Dragoons was awsome. The plot could have fit on 3 discs, ya, but it was still a good game overall.

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                                                                                              Posted 29 January 2008 - 02:52 PM

                                                                                              the battle system was good for the first 100 battles then it became tedious, you needed the utmost concentration to deal with the little ****s you just wanted to mash Attack to get rid of

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                                                                                                Posted 29 January 2008 - 03:43 PM

                                                                                                I found it fun the entire time. It added more strategy to the battles.

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                                                                                                  Posted 29 January 2008 - 04:00 PM

                                                                                                  Chrono Trigger was the first RPG I ever finished, and I loved it from start till end.
                                                                                                  Final Fantasy too of course, I really liked FFTA.

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                                                                                                    Posted 29 January 2008 - 04:06 PM

                                                                                                    View Postlaharl the slayer, on Jan 30 2008, 07:52 AM, said:

                                                                                                    the battle system was good for the first 100 battles then it became tedious, you needed the utmost concentration to deal with the little ****s you just wanted to mash Attack to get rid of

                                                                                                    I love your wording there. You don't want to kill them, just make them go away. ;]

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                                                                                                      Posted 31 January 2008 - 03:42 PM

                                                                                                      FFT was, in my opinion, a billiong times better than FFTA. Not that FFTA was bad game, but FFT was just better. Plus Cloud=win.

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                                                                                                        Posted 31 January 2008 - 05:44 PM

                                                                                                        thats common knowledge and believe me FFTA was that bad


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