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God... Of Gs? Piers and possibly a Camelot mess up

#1   TheDogWho 

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    Posted 16 August 2004 - 12:18 PM

    Piers on top of Mars Lighthouse says that 'The Wise One is more like a god than an Adept.' So... there must be some gods for him to compare to... Interesting eh?

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      Posted 16 August 2004 - 01:34 PM

      The summons are Gods. 'Nuff said.

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        Posted 16 August 2004 - 04:12 PM

        Yeah.Why didn't you close this Mystic Warrior?Aren't you a MOD in THIS section too?

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          Posted 16 August 2004 - 04:14 PM

          Because maybe this will be a discussion topic on the Gods of Golden Sun.

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            Posted 16 August 2004 - 04:33 PM

            Perhaps Piers was simply describing the Wise One's abilities: I mean, no regular Adept could have halted the eruption of Mt. Aleph (back in the beginning of GS1)... I think that's when Piers mentioned it, when Isaac and Garet explained what had happened...

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              Posted 16 August 2004 - 04:33 PM

              Yeah, they said some of the gods are summons in the summon place so... Thor's like the god of Jupiter right?

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                Posted 16 August 2004 - 04:35 PM

                I be lost :( where was that ever mentioned?

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                  Posted 16 August 2004 - 07:01 PM

                  Common knowledge, well... It's a fact that Thor was the greek god of thunder (Jupiter). I would so love to have a class on greek mythology. It's so interesting and so awesome. Now, back on topic

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                    Posted 16 August 2004 - 08:33 PM

                    Ok since where on summons(am i bit of topic)but i summon that could have suited the game was Cerberus(the three-headed dog of the underworld)I mean like the was eclipse and stuff cerberus could have tooken the place of Haures as an earth summon.

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                      Posted 16 August 2004 - 08:57 PM

                      Would you consider any of those side bosses to be gods? Valukar, Sentinel, Star Magician?

                      ...nah, they were the Guardians of the gods...never mind.

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                        Posted 16 August 2004 - 09:24 PM

                        Exactly like the Wise One was the Gardian of the elemenial stars

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                          Posted 16 August 2004 - 09:28 PM

                          Ah...you have a good point there. Maybe I was on to something.

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                            Posted 16 August 2004 - 09:32 PM

                            So the wise one is a realy strong gardian not a god.

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                              Posted 17 August 2004 - 07:04 AM

                              Weyard might be like earth: there are probably several different religions, who believe in different gods. in any case, whether there is a god or not, everyone understands that a god is generally an omnipotent power, much like the Wise One.

                              in other words, why wouldn't Weyard have gods?

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                                Posted 17 August 2004 - 08:50 AM

                                The Summons are the Gods. That pretty much sums it up.

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                                  Posted 17 August 2004 - 10:44 AM

                                  I think that the Summons being Gods is quite likely but they aren't really an omnipotent force.

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                                    Posted 17 August 2004 - 12:35 PM

                                    It would make sense why the summons only really hurt the bosses cause they seem like gaurdians to me(the bosses do)

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                                      Posted 17 August 2004 - 05:27 PM

                                      I don't get what you just said Echo djinn.Could you explain it again a little more clear for me?

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                                        Posted 17 August 2004 - 10:42 PM

                                        Yeah, but if there really were gods, and piers knew about them, why werent there churches, chapels, or shrines anywhere commemorating them? I think that they really did make a mistake in putting that in the game, but its really small.

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                                          Posted 18 August 2004 - 08:03 AM

                                          Well, C. Tycho, there are the sanctums; take the Madra sanctum for example; if you go inside it, it looks a lot like a church.

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                                            Posted 18 August 2004 - 08:12 AM

                                            - A Gothic one at that, Forte.

                                            I think the Summons are perhaps the Power of the Gods, not the Gods themselves...
                                            Well, also, just my idea, but- Four Lighthouses and Elements, Four Guardians?
                                            *points at Dullahan, Valukhar, the Sentinal, and the Star Magician*

                                            Azul- Power of Water
                                            Catastrophe - Power of the Wind
                                            Iris- Power of the Sun (Fire)
                                            Daedelus- Power of the Earth

                                            Sorry about the spelling errors... and about Charon- I have a theory that it is a power of the Anemos...


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                                              Posted 18 August 2004 - 11:03 AM

                                              Charon seemed more like the power of Darkness...

                                              Perhaps Iris was the secret power of the Anemos?

                                              Hmmm...

                                              Valukar was the Guardian of Fire (Daedalus)
                                              Star Magician was the Guardian of Water (Azul)
                                              Sentinel was the Guardian of Wind (Catastophe)
                                              Dullahan was the Guardian of Darkness and the Keeper of Light (Charon and Iris)

                                              Not to completely bash your theories, GL. -_-

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                                                Posted 18 August 2004 - 03:00 PM

                                                Daedalus was stated to be a master craftsman, but even so, I think the real God wasn't really a robot. Maybe it was a reincarnation?

                                                And either way, Daedalus dons the power of Venus and Mars, and actual metal or steel in GS terms is linked with the Venus clan. Using the power of Mars, Daedalus melds the power of earth into any form he desires. I think when people started to disbelieve in the God, he created what we now know as Daedalus.

                                                Sorry I brought that up, I just wanted to say my beliefs on my favorite summon. -_-

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                                                  Posted 19 August 2004 - 05:13 PM

                                                  ForteGX Is right with his gardians that's exactlly what each of them say.

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                                                    Posted 19 August 2004 - 05:25 PM

                                                    To Forte- ahh, it's ok. My theory is that, at one point, Charon was the power of the Anemos- however, once the Golden Age was starting to weaken, and Alchemy was being used for Evil deeds, the power of Charon waned into darkness...

                                                    and those that remained God summoned their courage to bring forth Iris, the Power of Fire, the Power of the Spirit, to end it all...

                                                    meh, a bit cliche, and a bit crazy, lol.


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                                                      Posted 20 August 2004 - 12:28 AM

                                                      WOW You guys have good theorys!!i never really think about this stuff until I look at a topic like this ;)

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                                                        Posted 20 August 2004 - 04:34 AM

                                                        Someone in Golden Sun 1 in Bilibin said that there used to be a very good healer and that he lived in Vale, long ago. Perhaps the Wise One is that healer.

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                                                          Posted 20 August 2004 - 04:44 AM

                                                          In Sol Sanctum there are symbols of Sol and Luna. In Anemos Sanctum which is linked to the moon you find the goddess of the sun, Iris.
                                                          All these theories started over the question whether the Wise One was a god or not. I think he has something to do with the Stone of Sages. He did imbue the Mars Star with some of the Golden Suns power. That means he is the guardian of Alchemy and the four elements making Alchemy, so he can tap in Alchemy. That explains his power.
                                                          The summons arent really the gods. They are linked to the Djinn, which escaped when Mt Aleph erupted. Perhaps when ALchemy returns to Weyard the four gods of the elements will also return.

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                                                            Posted 26 August 2004 - 04:36 AM

                                                            The Lemurians have a greater understanding of Psynergy and stuff. Perhaps there are some legends about gods in Lemuria.

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                                                                Posted 26 August 2004 - 06:31 AM

                                                              Woah there... A triple post? Try fitting all your comments in one ok? (I think you might get a warning...)

                                                              Yeah, about the Gods...

                                                              Daedalus- God of Earth
                                                              Catastrophe- God of wind
                                                              Azul- God of Water
                                                              Iris- God of fire, and probably Light
                                                              Charon- Probably the God of Darkness...

                                                              I think your right Golden Legacy, probably Alchemy was used for evil, and Charon started becoming weaker and Iris started to become stronger... At one point of the game, Charon was stronger and Iris was weaker...

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                                                                Posted 26 August 2004 - 02:03 PM

                                                                It said Daedalus was Fire though not earth oh well it dosn't make a difference anyway


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