[Elliott]

What is your prefered internet browser?
I used to be one of those people who though Internet Explorer was the way to go. Silly me. Then I was introduced to Opera, I liked it a lot. Then I heard about FireFox. I liked this even better. And just recently I have downloaded Netscape Navigator. It's a lot like Firefox in it's interface.
Internet Explorer sucks, big time. Anyone using it now I urge you to switch to Opera, FF, or NN. The major advantages I have found are better security, internal pop-up blockers, dosn't record your internet history (a big thing for shared computers), and of course, the tabbed browsing feature.
I am unsure about Safari however. Apparantly, it is a mac thing, so I have never used it.
Well, what about you, what internet browser do you use?

FireFox Website
http://www.mozilla.o...oducts/firefox/
Opera Website
http://www.opera.com/
Netscape Website
http://channels.nets...rs/download.jsp

Stop using IE, right now.

[Max]

I like Firefox alot, but I like all of the browsers listed except for IE. For all those who don't know, Firefox is hitting version 1.0 final on Tuesday.

[Venus_Man1]

I voted Mozilla Firefox. It's really good^^

[Hawk]

I vote FF aswell XD
I can't use internet explorer becuase I killed it with spyware =(

[Tachyon360]

Maxthon, hands-down. It's very stable, has a clean tabbed interface, has a number of convinient security and anti-ad features, and supports mouse gestures. Plus, it's compatible with most IE plugins.

[Nick Presta]

I've used all on the list plus Konqueror.

I like Opera and Konqueror the best. Firefox is great too.

[Meglo]

I use Mozilla FireFox generally.

[Andross]

Max, on Nov 5 2004, 01:00 PM, said:

For all those who don't know, Firefox is hitting version 1.0 final on Tuesday.

YES! Finally! Hopefully they'll fix some of the clunky parts that were put in for PR1.

Anyway, I use Firefox, and have been using it for a long time - since it was Firebird even. It's been a long time waiting too, when it started out as Phoenix, which was just a plain, super-streamlined browser. Man, is that thing old...

Firefox is among the best when it comes to free internet browsers. If you just want something that loads fast, views webpages well, and has strong security, Firefox is the one to go with.

[Julian]

I'm just using IE now because i just don't care abou whatt browsers i use, but if i wasn't too lazy about downloading plugins, i'd be using firefox right now. :D

[The Postman]

FF all the way. Seriously can't wait till Tuesday.
Anyways, I'm downloadin Opera right now to try it out, but I think I'll still stick fith FireFox.

[Hawk]

Firefox is good =)
BUt I can't use windows update :(

[The Postman]

That's why I left IE installed...
Anyways, I'm trying Opera now, if anything, it actually runs faster than FireFox. I sorta cracked it, so I don't got the banner... :(
Anyways, I would keep using it, just that the bookmarks, and the toolbars aren't as great as in FF.
That and the fact that it doesn't have all the great extensions FF has sort of pisses me off, cause I would use Opera it if did.
All in all, FF is just so much more customisable... But Opera runs better. AArgh.

[The Postman]

You'd notice it if you had a slow computer, like me.
Anyways, I knew that, it's just the way I organised it in FF that I was having trouble doing in Opera, I fixed it though.
Anyways, you can get extensions in Opera? I didn't know that.

EDIT:
Uh huh, I double posted it seems, yet it was displaying a post by Nick right after my post, weird...
It was written:
I don't notice a huge difference from FF.

Sure, you can't get as much extensions, but you can still get them. Google it.
And my favourites come in a drop down menu, etc. Just like in FF.[attachment=747:attachment]

EDIT AGAIN:
I decided to stick with Opera. It just runs more smoothly, and the mouse gestures replace the drag & drop I used in FF. So I'm only missing out on a few extensions, most of which I didn't use very much.
Anyone know exactly what they fixed in FF V1.0 Final?

This was my fault. The uploaded file (A screen of my Opera) didn't load, so I deleted my post anyways. Note to moderators: This was not a double post. -Nick

[Elliott]

Not sure, but none of my old themese or extensions tranfered over, so I have to use the newer ones, which aren't as good as some of the old ones IMO.

[Nobody]

While this is an old poll, we aren't allowed to make duplicates, right?
Anyway, I thought FireFox until I downloaded Opera earlier today. It is like my ISP; super-high speed. It's also pretty secure, and the ads aren't annoying me as they aren't in my way. If I get bored, I tend to play around with the page magnification feature. It's pretty funny to put it in 1000% percent while typing in large text. This is an example of what I'm talking about:

http://img177.exs.cx/img177/4831/operaboredom18xr.th.jpg

[l3lueMage]

I use firefox, but i cant wait for the google browser XD

[Nobody]

The Postman, on Nov 6 2004, 05:14 PM, said:

That's why I left IE installed...
Anyways, I'm trying Opera now, if anything, it actually runs faster than FireFox. I sorta cracked it, so I don't got the banner...  :(

I agree about it running faster. that's why I like it bette than FF.
Can you PM to me how you got rid of the banner? It'd help alot, especially on the laptop I have. Thanks in advance.

[l3lueMage]

what banner are u talking about?

[TobiasMar]

You know Opera's ad banner? Thats what.
Well, I dont mind it, but I guess it would be okay if it was removed.
Anyway, I say Opera > Firefox

[Kubjelle]

Opera is Norwegian.. :D And if I'm totaly wrong is the same man who invented CSS :o, works in Opera.. :o

OMG, you can thank alot to this man.. :D And his from Norway.. :o XD

I use Opera, and who cares about the banner? It's a small price to pay?

And Opera is faster than FireFox, it was a man who tested it with PHP on several pages, and I think Opera won all the times.. I'm not sure you can trust it, since it's php.. But... Aww.. I forgot.. ;_;

Edit: I turned of smileys.. mehh..

[l3lueMage]

opera doesnt work with alot of sites, gmail, msn, and a few others

[Omega]

O.o Am I the only one with IE here? That's weird.... I thought IE was the most popular one....

[Kubjelle]

It is.. :P
But the browser most used, don't have to be the best.. ;)

[l3lueMage]

I use IE all the time, in fact most of the time, but Firefox is my default browser so when something opens in new window its in firefox, so usually I have a mix of IE and firefox open o.o

[Nobody]

l3lueMage, on Apr 5 2005, 09:37 AM, said:

opera doesnt work with alot of sites, gmail, msn,  and a few others

I know. I use Opera most of the time. For example, I set GMail notifier to open Firefox when checking mail from it.
That's one of only two things I've found that's better with FF when compared to Opera. The other one is the fact that the free version of Opera displays ads, but that doesn't annoy me because of the ads' size.

[TobiasMar]

I just made a major change in my Internet Browser.
I use Netscape 8.0 Beta now. Its definately the best because:
-It has a browser engine very simaler to Firefox's
-Built-in Tabbed Browsing feature
-Its speed is between Firefox and Opera, but closer to Opera
-It has the same amount of security as Firefox
-It can access pages that can be accessed only by IE like Windows Update
-It has a nice skin that makes the toolbars take up very little space

(Apparently, its based off Firefox, but the browser has some things in it that make it better than it.)

[Elliott]

You clearly are a novice when it comes to browsers Gimli.
Mozilla is based on the same engine as Netscape (Gecko), and FF is based on mozilla.
Netscape is a crap browser, this is common knowledge. You were better off with Opera.

[TobiasMar]

Wait, so FF is based off Mozilla? Ah, I didnt know.

Agatio, on Arpil 08 2005, 1:21 PM, said:

Netscape is a crap browser, this is common knowledge.

Thats not true. Don't misjudge browsers before you even know them (What I mean by that you "know" a browser is like you have used it before) And I dunno if the previous Netscape browsers had bad security flaws, but that doesn't mean that all the versions of their browsers do! :ph34r:

And, I know the new netscape is based off Firefox, but they are not trying to steal it! They did edits to it and made it their browser. The part about being based off Firefox is still noticeable, but their changes to it are very noticeable (though, it doesn't

Don't believe me? Look here: http://browser.netsc...uct/default.jsp

It doesnt mention anything about Firefox, but you'll know it when you download and use it.

[Elliott]

=/
You're confusing yourself and me.
And I have used Netscape before, the only PC browser I haven't used is Maxthon (and I have no desire to).
It's just a slow clunky browser, no stand out features.
Firefox is better, I I fail to see why that is so hard for you to comprehend =/ .

[Nobody]

Well, did you try the newest version of Netscape? I've heard the old versions are a bit crappy. But I like the new version alot.
(the version I am using is Netscape 8.0 Beta)

EDIT: Whoops. This is Gimli. I forgot I was in my brother's account. >.<

This post has been edited by Nobody: 28 April 2005 - 05:10 PM

[TobiasMar]

Sorry about the last post

Anyway, to prove about what I said in my post about Netscape, I have taken this screenshot (with the Windows Update page to prove that I was right about Netscape viewing IE-compatible pages).
[attachment=1532:attachment]
If your Netscape browser did not look like that, then you didn't have the latest version of Netscape.

[Isaac702]

Whats wrong with Explorer im insulted for all people who do use it and whats with only 3 people voting for it its a offical microsoft product i wouldn't trust a unoffical product as far as as i can see and thank you Omega someone who uses IE Exelent

[Kite]

Gimli the Great, on Apr 28 2005, 06:38 PM, said:

Sorry about the last post

Anyway, to prove about what I said in my post about Netscape, I have taken this screenshot (with the Windows Update page to prove that I was right about Netscape viewing IE-compatible pages).
attachment
If your Netscape browser did not look like that, then you didn't have the latest version of Netscape.

The only reason why it can veiw them is becuase it has ActiveX ENABLED. And thats the MAJOUR flaw in MSIE. All because its based off of Mozilla dosent mean it's safe when it has ActiveX enabled~

[Elliott]

Isaac702, on Apr 29 2005, 06:55 PM, said:

Whats wrong with Explorer im insulted for all people who do use it and whats with only 3 people voting for it its a offical microsoft product i wouldn't trust a unoffical product as far as as i can see and thank you Omega someone who uses IE Exelent

Man, you REALLY don't know what you're talking about do you =/ .

It goes like this:

Firefox > Opera > Netscape > Internet Explorer

That's obviously excluding MacOS browsers, and, Maxthon as I have not used it (from what I have herd it probably sits between FF and Opera).

As far as speed goes, computers and internet speeds are only getting faster, so if a certain browser renders tables at 0.5 seconds faster than another, thats no big deal at all. What it comes down to is security and features (i.e themes, extentions, plugins, customisation etc.). Security is very important, and this is where Firefox is know for standing out.

Also, it's exstensive library of themes, extentions, plugins is a huge bonus, and the tabbed control over multiple sites, as well as built in pop up blocker makes it a definite winner.

So enough, I will not hear any more bad words against Firefox :ph34r: .

[TobiasMar]

Kite, on Apr 29 2005, 05:30 AM, said:

The only reason why it can veiw them is becuase it has ActiveX ENABLED. And thats the MAJOUR flaw in MSIE. All because its based off of Mozilla dosent mean it's safe when it has ActiveX enabled~

Well, I never said that it has high security because it was based off mozilla! I said that it has high security. It has 3 website trust zones to control the site's Web Features:
I trust this site (All web features enabled)
I'm not sure (Pop-ups and ActiveX disabled, I recomend this for default trust setting)
I don't trust this site. (All features exept Images disabled)

MSIE has something simaler, but Netscape controls security zone stuff much better.

[Elliott]

http://www.w3schools...wsers_stats.asp
Something you may find interesting.

[Mycarayne]

meh, I use IE.

I say: why not?

As far as im concerned, its fine. FF may be better yada yada, but I care not :P

[Elliott]

*shakes head in disapointment*
I'm not going to go over all the features again, let me just say.

- Firefox > IE
- http://www.getfirefox.com
- less than 5 megs.
- You can import bookmarks from IE.

[Mycarayne]

*resists urge*




*still resisting*

Ok fine, I'll get it. Happy? I SURE hope so :P

Wait? 5 megs? woah, That's one more song I can't have on my computer. *pass*


EDIT: Remaining time: 10...9...8...7...6...5...4...3...2...1...

yay, my dinner is cooked. I love my microwave :wub:

EDIT: Firefox is da Sh!t
Damn. Yet again, Agatio has the answer.

[Black Mage]

im an IE user, its ok but sometimes IE just makes me go :)

i used to have NetScape but my computer was "downgraded" (dont ask why, dont ask how)

[Izar]

I coulda swore that there was a topic like this two or more pages, because I already posted this(or something like it):

Internet Explorer is only good for browsing around. That's it basically. Firefox is alot better, but still, it's not "SO FRIGGIN AWESOME!!!" It's Ok. The best there is so I'll settle with it. I hate netscape, don't ask why, I just hate it.

[Elliott]

LOL. "Internet Explorer is only good for browsing around". Man, you really need to look into this further. IE renderes pages incorrectly and slowly, it's unsafe, it's a sitting duck for pop ups, in every single way Firefox is better.

http://www.browsehappy.com/why
http://saveneverside.org
http://www.stopie.com

Have a read, and then:

http://www.getfirefox.com

[Mars Djinni]

Agatio, on Apr 30 2005, 09:16 PM, said:

[url=http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp]

Heh, It's safe to say Firefox pwned in those statistics. I prefer Firefox because of its tabbed browsing. It makes life oh, so easy, plus, It feels morse secure ^^

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Ms. Sandlin is so devoted to Firefox that she has taped a note to her monitor warning guests not to click on the desktop shortcut to Internet Explorer. Do not touch the blue ‘E!’ the note says.

^ I was temped to do that, too.

[Izar]

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IE renderes pages incorrectly and slowly, it's unsafe, it's a sitting duck for pop ups, in every single way Firefox is better.

I never get pop ups, and I see the pages the same way using either one.

[Elliott]

It has very buggy and outdated CSS support. Also, when rendering a page, it tries to load all the images, as well as the code, and everything else in one go. Wheras Firefox renderes the code, then the images 1 by 1, then anything else, meaning it goes faster and more stable.

Trust me, with IE you will get more pop ups that Firefox, and it's just generally unsafe in terms of security.

Any intelligent person would at least look into Firefox, or even Opera.

[Izar]

I got it. I use both, never get pop ups in either one.

Firefox is better, that's about it.

[Elliott]

I'd love to see you go over to Neverside and try and talk Internet Explorer up to be anything better than a piece of dog crap. You would get flamed out of existance :rolleyes: .

[Nobody]

Mars Djinn said:

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Ms. Sandlin is so devoted to Firefox that she has taped a note to her monitor warning guests not to click on the desktop shortcut to Internet Explorer. Do not touch the blue ‘E!’ the note says.

^I was tampted to do that too.

Heh, you know what you can do to solve that problem? Just take the IE icon off the desktop and Start menu and they won't see it.

PS: Netscape Navigator is the same thing as Netscape, right?

[Elliott]

Yep, same program different name, but Opera is better than Netscape, and Firefox even better than Opera. As I've said before :rolleyes: .

[Nobody]

I kinda agree, but I like Netscape for a rather silly reason. The Adress Bar and such doesn't take up as much space, so you can see more of the web page you're browsing, meaning you'll have to scroll a little less. I like the fact that it seems very similar to Firefox also.

[Elliott]

My firefox set up has the status bar, and 4 top bars; 1 with file, view etc. 1 with refresh, back, google search etc. the quick clicks (sites I visit a lot), and the web developer bar. But then again, I have 1152x864 resolution, which means I have more space anyway.

[TobiasMar]

Agatio, on May 23 2005, 05:00 PM, said:

Yep, same program different name, but Opera is better than Netscape, and Firefox even better than Opera. As I've said before :rolleyes: .

Well, as for me:
IE < Maxthon < Firefox < Opera < Netscape 8.0

Why is Netscape on the top? Because:
1. It has a nice layout that is very compact.
2. It has a "MultiBar" feature that reduces Toolbar Clutter.
3. Tabbed browsing and Pop-up blocking features come with it.
4. It has rather good speed; faster than Firefox, but not as fast as Opera.
5. It can allow ActiveX for certain sites so you don't have to open IE itself for sites like Windows Update. (An annoying popup opens every time I open IE itself. This popup can be terminated only via Task manager.)
6. It has a trust feature to control which websites can have certain features enabled or disabled (very useful).

[Izar]

Agatio, on May 21 2005, 09:55 PM, said:

I'd love to see you go over to Neverside and try and talk Internet Explorer up to be anything better than a piece of dog crap. You would get flamed out of existance :rolleyes: .

What are you talking about?

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PS: Netscape Navigator is the same thing as Netscape, right?

I think it is.

I never knew Netscape was made by Mozilla... Anyways.

Firefox - IE

That's all I got, and have no need for any other one.

[Elliott]

There's no emoticon to express what I’m feeling right now.

Izar, what I'm saying is, in any intelligent online community, no one ever talks up IE to be anything good, it is universally known as the worst browser.

And Gimli, you just won’t learn, so continue using Netscape despite Opera and Firefox being better, the message just isn't getting through.

[l3lueMage]

this topic is still going x.x
Well read the poll no arguing the poll
Mozilla FireFox [ 15 ] [57.69%]
Netscape Navigator [ 0 ] [0.00%]
Opera [ 4 ] [15.38%]
Internet Explorer [ 6 ] [23.08%]
Safari [ 0 ] [0.00%]
Other (Please specify) [ 1 ] [3.85%]

FIREFOX WINS GOOD DAY TO YOU ALL ._.

[Elliott]

I just can't belive 6 people actually voted for IE :rolleyes:

[TobiasMar]

Izar, on May 24 2005, 05:55 PM, said:

I never knew Netscape was made by Mozilla... Anyways.

No, Netscape is not a Mozilla product. True, its simaler to Mozilla's Firefox browser, but that doesn't that Netscape a Mozilla product as well.

[l3lueMage]

okay, this topic has been used, abused, and reused :rolleyes: people are arguing over the same thing over and over again x.X
Im never coming back to this topic again lol its pointless now GOOGLE IT

http://genma.free.fr/IMG/jpg/google_ami_de_bart.jpg

[lifeform287]

ummm...lol.

This topic does seem to be going around in circles. Ya argue about something, stop, argue about it again but from a new angle (That seems to be what l3luemage is saying). No offense, but ya.

[Elliott]

In that case, I'll close it.
By the way, Firefox is better :rolleyes: