[Lyiana]

I have found many interesting things about the names in Golden Sun: The Lost Age.. My brother got me interested in the game, and it is the first role play game I've ever played.. It is also the first game I've ever played through.. (Not much of a gamer)
There are some things that fascinate me in that game.. Here is the list of mythological references, lingual names, and things of the sort that fascinate me.
Starting with the beginning..
Mt. Aleph: Aleph is the first letter of the hebrew alphabet.
Vale: In celtic, this means "Beginning" or, "Valley"
Mt. Mikage, and Izumo (spelling?): An actual legend in Japan. It is one I have heard of before the game.. This includes the Cloud Brand.
Cloto's Distaff: ?? Cloto had significance.. I forgot what it was..
Anthrops' rod: If you think about it, in Hades, the fates carried the scissors that could cut your life. Anthrops is one of the fates, I'm pretty sure.
Thiamat, Thor, Cybrele, Neptune, All basic elemental summons, Ramsus.. Ancient gods. Just from different religions..
Luna, sol: Spanish for sun and moon. Go figure..
Megiddo: A small town in ancient Israel that rested South-West of Jerusalem. This is where a few prophets came face to face with the beast (Christianity)
L-Rule: I won't even try to spell it. The L-Rule is the golden rule, but not dealing with Karma.. It is from another belief, though I forgot which one.
Finally.. I know more, but I'll get sore fingers..
Prox: Yes, that is an altered name of the river of souls in Hades.

Fascinating, isn't it? :agitated: :agitated:

::More!::

Oh! I forgot..
Osenia Is an altered form of Oceania, or Australia. Also, right in the middle of Australia, is a place called Ayers Rock. Neat?
Gaia. Well, the spirit of the earth.. It is also the named used in a theory developed in the '50s
Gamboda: Whatever the spelling is.. He is part of the buddah religion.. I just don't know what part..

[golden_djiin]

the summons are suppoed to be gods...:Pand the world of the game is supposed to be the earlier form of the world...yeah,if they would have said sun and moon instead of luna and sol,it would have been the same.but in thier 'time',they must have called it that instead of sun and moon.

[Lyiana]

golden_djiin, on Mar 6 2005, 07:20 PM, said:

the summons are suppoed to be gods...:Pand the world of the game is supposed to be the earlier form of the world...yeah,if they would have said sun and moon instead of luna and sol,it would have been the same.but in thier 'time',they must have called it that instead of sun and moon.

Well, save the fact that not all of them are gods..
Luna and Sol are spanish.. They speak english.
I believe they used Luna and Sol to make it seem as though they were gods, instead of the phyical moon and sun. Luna and Sol have a little ring to them.. Perhaps that is simply becuase I am not spanish native..

Weyerd was mentioned in a novel I read once.. It is a name for the flat world. The only other name for this I can think of is "Galya," which is an old scientific name for the world, when it was still believed to be flat.

[golden_djiin]

well,in there,there is only english.so there wasn't such thing as spanish in the game.but you shouldn't analyze games,just play them.its makes it funner. :agitated:

[Ravenblade]

Actually thats all very interesting - i had picked up on a few things but i didnt have a list anywhere nesar that exhaustive (although the pattern had suggested that all had significance). Good work with that, nice to see that you're so interested in it.

This often tends to be the case in rpgs mind you, but it seems a lot more evident in GS now that you point it out^^

[Manning sucks]

WOW!!!! i didn't a lot of that stuff.

Also some other stuff in the game:

Xian - an ancient Chinese town
Silk Road - I am pretty sure it was a Chinese trading road. correct me if I am wrong.

[el_Sethro]

^ yup that's right about Xian/Silk Road

also, I believe that Shaman Village is also based on a real village (in africa I think). likewise, the real-world counterpart's villagers also are...less than welcoming.

Lemuria is based on Atlantis (obviously)

there are tones more (I found a website that I can't remember now), but I don't remember them.

[Lyiana]

No, no.. Do not look on a website.. Pick them up on your own <_<

Now, Shaman Village and Contigo were based on an Asian culture/empire near ancient times.. (I got bored so I looked up Hesperia.. Spelling..)
Hesperia is actually the english lettering for this town/village/empire.. They followed the beliefs of a wind god, and outsiders belived they could call the winds. This empire had internal strife between two elders, and they had some kind of duel on top of a large hill.
Now, what interested me the most.. It was a tale somewhat like Atlantis.. I forgot the name, but there was a place very near that ancient empire that was rumored to dissipear one day, leaving nothing more than a cold wind and a crater lake.

Neat, right?

Oh, and interest? I tend to hate video games.. There are sooo many better things to do.. Golden Sun is really neat, and the references are amazing :)

[Ravenblade]

There are many better things to do - we just dont do them XD

Seriously though there are a few other rpgs that do likewise although due to th fact that my memory sucks, none have approached me. FinalFantasy might throw a few in every now and then i suppose.

But welldone for pointing them all out and uh...welcome to the forums. If you intend on sticking around then make an intro topic^^

[Mars Djinni]

Well I remember Looking through my atlas and I remember seeing Delhi, which I recall is a town in GS2. I also found Dekkan Plateau, spelled Dehkan or something like that in India. Indra can also be a variation of India.

[Lyiana]

Oh? Neat <_<
I didn't know as much..

An intro topic? That is an odd sentiment, considering this is just a forum.. What would I do in one, then?


Kargol sea was the name of a sea back in biblical times :)

[Mars Djinni]

Lyiana, on Mar 6 2005, 04:13 PM, said:

Prox:  Yes, that is an altered name of the river of souls in Hades. 

Do you mean the River Styx?

BTW, I think Tiamat had some relations with the Norse, correct me if I'm wrong.

Ramses, rather all pharaohs were believed to be a god because of Horus, as he was son of Osiris. Horus was the first Pharaoh by inheritance. Basically, the Egyptians "made" Ramses a god.

Cybelle was I think another name for Gaia or Mother Earth.

[Lyiana]

Mars Djinni, on Mar 7 2005, 08:26 PM, said:

Do you mean the River Styx?

Oh, yes. I am sorry. Prox is something else.
Styx, the river, and things of the such had more to do with the Anthrops' rod.. I forgot what it is Prox signifies.. Sorry x.x

[Mars Djinni]

In a previous mention in a website, Aleph can be also a mistranslation of Alpha. *Thinks MMBN3*

EDIT: I shall now point out the obvious:

Thor: Norse God
Neptune: Poseidon
Atalanta: A greek heroine. She was a part of the sailing crew, the Argonauts led by Jason.

[ajbcool]

Air's Rock is in Australia.

[Mars Djinni]

Ah, yeah! My Grade 6 teacher was austrailian and told the class about it. It was spelled like the japanese version. "Aeyr's Rock" me thinks.

[Lyiana]

ajbcool, on Mar 9 2005, 09:06 AM, said:

Air's Rock is in Australia.

Ayers Rock. I got that one <_<

Aleph was intended to be the first letter of the hebrew alaphabet, which resembles an oddly drawn X

I can't really think of many things right now..
Well, Fire Brand's purgatory.. Purgatory is the place you go to await judgement.. It is like a place between heaven and hell?

[Sea of Time]

This is one of the reasons why I love this series so much. There's so much beyond just the game that you can figure out. It has a lot of depth.

[Lyiana]

Oh! Who can forget the kikuikimonji? (spelling)

I know he was some ancient japaneese man of the forge.. I believe there was a sword with his namesake, just like the Levathine <_<
Asura is some god.. I don't know where from or anything of the sort.. There is so many things to think about in that game, that I would never get to them all.. Nobody could, really >.<

[Omega]

I think Gondowan was something to do with Pangaea (the super continent) it was the name of the second continent... Gondowanada or something like that... and Contigo means "With you" in spanish.

[Mars Djinni]

Lyiana, on Mar 9 2005, 06:33 PM, said:

Oh!  Who can forget the kikuikimonji?  (spelling)

I guess it's spelled Kikuichimonji

[Kyogrefan2]

excaliber obviously based on king arthur....

[gsninja]

You know, I've noticed these things too when I played through GS:TLA. It'a amazing, how much depth one game can have. The first things I noticed in the GS games were the summons. Here are other things I noticed:

Ragnarok: In Norse mythology, this is the prophesized fall of the gods

"Lonesome George": Remember the turtle in the Sea of Time Islet? There is an actual turtle in real life called Lonesome George because he was the only one of his species left.

Raiden's Wrath, the Cloud Brand's unleash: Raiden is the name of a thunder god in a movie (Mortal Combat).

[Kyogrefan2]

i was wondering: did the GS staff research all this stuff to make this game? its kind of educational when you come to think of it

[gsninja]

It is. Wouldn't it be nice if teachers everywhere noticed this and had us play it for learning about different cultures? That would be awesome.

[golden_djiin]

THAT would be awsome,my freind,THAT would be awsome...yeah,every kid in 2005 in grades 4 and up,playing golden sun and golden sun 2,the lost age...:lol:

[Kyogrefan2]

taht would be the bomb. we wouldnt hafta carry all those geography stuff
they can be relaced by gs stuff, and of course, a GBA
now lets see......
im thinking stuff from the top of my head...
the elementals are normal....most gaems have that...but is there anything fishy with the lighthouses?

[golden_djiin]

*cough venuslighthouse splitting in two cough.*
there,fixed...if you could figure it out,this is what it said before,without spaces.*

[gsninja]

golden_djiin, I think you just spammed, so fix the post.

For one, alchemy is not only in GS, but in many other games created. The four main elements...I believed those made up our world as well. Some cultures believe that the main elements are: Earth, Fire, Water, Wind, and Steel. I believe that steel is just a part of earth, however.

[Lyiana]

gsninja, on Mar 11 2005, 06:42 PM, said:

golden_djiin, I think you just spammed, so fix the post.

For one, alchemy is not only in GS, but in many other games created. The four main elements...I believed those made up our world as well. Some cultures believe that the main elements are: Earth, Fire, Water, Wind, and Steel. I believe that steel is just a part of earth, however.

Sure that isn't Iron?
Steel is processed iron.. It didn't naturally exist in the world in ancient times..

Raiden is a real wind god.. Not just from the game lol..
I remember Lonesome George..
The four elements were believed to make sense, because a scientist burnt a freshly dead limb.
As it burnt, smoke (Jupiter), Sap/water running out the end (Mercury), fire, of course (Mars), and the ash (Venus). At the time, the elemental theory couldn't be disproved, so it was accepted.. I thought it was neat ^_^

[Mars Djinni]

*raises hand* I think I remember reading in a book that Lemuria is another lost continent which was similar to Atlantis.

[Rickeyjr]

I dunno if anyone mentioned this...but
the Masamune and Muramasa (sp?) are old legend swords that if each were placed in a river of rose petals, and the blade pointing up-current, one would cut the leaves, one wouldn't. (i forgot which did which, but the one that was cursed in the games, is the one that cut the leaves)

just thought i'd try to sould profound/smart with all the old people here that know some stuff....

[Nobody]

For some reason, the Suhalla Desert makes me think of the Sahara Desert. Don't ask me why, though.

[Kyogrefan2]

well... suhalla sahara do go well with eachother... kudos 4 u.
Think about the weapons for a moment....they all have names so they all mean sumthing...(cept for broad sword, etc.)

[Neon]

The GS1 map is VERY similar to what they believe the world looked like before we got the continents we have to today. I forget what they called the super continent, started with 'P' i think.

i'l find a map :P...

[Nobody]

Neon, on Mar 12 2005, 05:16 AM, said:

The GS1 map is VERY similar to what they believe the world looked like before we got the continents we have to today. I worget what they called the super continent, started with 'P' i think.

i'l find a map :P...

It was called Pangea, to be precise. And you're right; I don't know why I didn't notice that. Only the names of places and other hints I didn't think about (eg: Xian is a name of a city in China) until I saw this.

[Mars Djinni]

Kyogrefan2, on Mar 11 2005, 11:54 PM, said:

well... suhalla sahara do go well with eachother... kudos 4 u.
Think about the weapons for a moment....they all have names so they all mean sumthing...(cept for broad sword, etc.)

Suhalla could be a misstranslation of Sahara. It's that "L" and "R" misstranslation thing.

[Rickeyjr]

Isaac is Abraham's son....

[Neon]

The lower section of Pangea is named "Gondwana".
Sound familiar?

[Omega]

There is an encyclopedia site I use for Home work all the time.... check it out. www.Wikipedia.org. You can find almost ANYTHING there. Also info on the "history of w00t!" THAT'S HOW FREAKIN MUCH OF INFO THERE IS! Also there is a Lemuria section.... Oh well.... have fun looking at it!

[gsninja]

Rickeyjr, on Mar 12 2005, 01:46 AM, said:

I dunno if anyone mentioned this...but
the Masamune and Muramasa (sp?) are old legend swords that if each were placed in a river of rose petals, and the blade pointing up-current, one would cut the leaves, one wouldn't. (i forgot which did which, but the one that was cursed in the games, is the one that cut the leaves)

just thought i'd try to sould profound/smart with all the old people here that know some stuff....

Well, there is another legend that, because the Muramasa is supposedly a cursed sword (as in GS), if you thrust it into a river and it cuts a floating leaf, it will hover around the blade, as though bewitched by a demon.

[Lyiana]

Lol, don't forget Posiden >.<

Angara has to mean something.. I guess somebody will find out eventually..
I finally remembered.. Charon is what had to do with the river Styx, which is in hades..

[gsninja]

Yeah, Charon was the boatsman who ferried the dead across the River Styx so they could join Hades. Then, there's an enemy in GS called Cerberus, who is Hades' dog...

[Lyiana]

gsninja, on Mar 15 2005, 10:31 PM, said:

Yeah, Charon was the boatsman who ferried the dead across the River Styx so they could join Hades. Then, there's an enemy in GS called Cerberus, who is Hades' dog...

Fenirs are from somewhere, too.. I have no idea where..

[Mars Djinni]

Fenris and Fenrir are variations of the Norse Wolf. It was Fenrir who dismembered the arm of the god Tyr. I'm guessing Fenris had to do something with Fimbulvetr.

[gsninja]

Fenris was also the wolf that devoured Odin on the day of Ragnarok.

[Mars Djinni]

Erebus Armor - Erebus was an area in the greek underworld

Valkyrie Armor - Valkrie was a mounted magic-user (FE memories ^^)

Triton's Ward - Triton was the greek god of the lakes

Aegis shield - was the Shield of Athena

Oracle's Robe (GS) - The Oracle was a prophet of Greek Mythology who resided at Delphi.

Vulcan Axe (GS) - Vulcen is the roman name for Hepheastus (sp?) the god of the forge.

It helps when you're studying greece

[Nobody]

whoa...I just noticed how much this is based on mythology... quite amazing.
Anyway, I have a theory of what happened to Weyard (as a whole) after the beacons were all lit. It must've rolled up into the Earth; note the shapes of the eroded land that Gaia Falls has washed away, [SPOILER ] what Wise One said at the end of TLA that "Mt. Aleph was going to become the center of the world" (or something very similar), and that some people in Vale to say something like "Mt Aleph is as old as Weyard itself" when you talk to them in GS1.[/SPOILER]

[gsninja]

Mva's Helm-Minerva is just another name for Althena, who was the goddess who sprung from Zeus' head.

[Mars Djinni]

Minerva was Athena's Roman name, right?

Anyways, this is from FE, not Golden Sun, but the spell Fimbulvetr can also be Fimbulwinter, something involving the wolves and the winter. Norse Mythology.

And more on Megiddo - yes, it is a city of Israel, but had much of significance. Being a practicing Christian, when I read the Bible, I read the book of Revalation. In it, the word "Armageddon" means "mound of megiddo" which is most likely where the final war will take place. (That may be why the unleash is a huge meteor.)

[Nobody]

Mercury Lighthouse and Hermes's Water: Hermes is Zues's messenger. Mercury is Hermes's Roman name.

[Yokutai]

Jupiter Lighthouse is the name of the Famous Jupiter Inlet Lighthouse ( Jupiter Lighthouse for short. ) located in Jupiter, Florida

[golden_djiin]

yeah,at the end of GS2:TLA,it shows alex sinking down with mt.aleph.the wise one said it would.

[Yokutai]

golden_djiin, on Mar 24 2005, 01:59 PM, said:

yeah,at the end of GS2:TLA,it shows alex sinking down with mt.aleph.the wise one said it would.

How does this have to do anything with the topic? :angry:

[golden_djiin]

Nobody, on Mar 21 2005, 04:59 PM, said:

whoa...I just noticed how much this is based on mythology... quite amazing.
Anyway, I have a theory of what happened to Weyard (as a whole) after the beacons were all lit. It must've rolled up into the Earth; note the shapes of the eroded land that Gaia Falls has washed away, [SPOILER ] what Wise One said at the end of TLA that "Mt. Aleph was going to become the center of the world" (or something very similar), and that some people in Vale to say something like "Mt Aleph is as old as Weyard itself" when you talk to them in GS1.[/SPOILER]

what he said.thats what. :angry:

And what you said. Totally irrelevant and does not contribute to the topic. Please make all your posts as constructive as possible - Riad

[Yokutai]

Nobody, on Mar 21 2005, 04:59 PM, said:

 
whoa...I just noticed how much this is based on mythology... quite amazing. 
Anyway, I have a theory of what happened to Weyard (as a whole) after the beacons were all lit. It must've rolled up into the Earth; note the shapes of the eroded land that Gaia Falls has washed away, [SPOILER ] what Wise One said at the end of TLA that "Mt. Aleph was going to become the center of the world" (or something very similar), and that some people in Vale to say something like "Mt Aleph is as old as Weyard itself" when you talk to them in GS1.[/SPOILER] 
 

Hes using real-world reference if you noticed, while your post doesn't. :angry:

[golden_djiin]

[SPOILER ] what Wise One said at the end of TLA that "Mt. Aleph was going to become the center of the world" (or something very similar), and that some people in Vale to say something like "Mt Aleph is as old as Weyard itself" when you talk to them in GS1.[/SPOILER]

righto.

[Yokutai]

golden_djiin, on Mar 24 2005, 01:59 PM, said:

yeah,at the end of GS2:TLA,it shows alex sinking down with mt.aleph.the wise one said it would.

Ok, GS2 :TLA = no real-word reference, cept its a game if you want to get smart.
Alex = No real-world reference other then the name.
Mt.Aleph = Has Real-world reference.
Wise one = No real-world reference.

Your post isn't on topic because you talking about Alex sinking down with mt.aleph.
On the other hand Nobody was informing us on a theory of his based on real - world reference and used a spoiler to help support it.

[Nobody]

Yokutai, you are 100% correct about what you said. Also, the following quoted post has been reported for pladgerization:

golden_djiin, on Mar 24 2005, 02:37 PM, said:

[SPOILER ] what Wise One said at the end of TLA that "Mt. Aleph was going to become the center of the world" (or something very similar), and that some people in Vale to say something like "Mt Aleph is as old as Weyard itself" when you talk to them in GS1.[/SPOILER]

righto.

[Lyiana]

So hostile.. :o

I was just about to say something about Delphi.. That is mentioned in the game, yes? An item, I think.. If not, it must have been in Fire Emblem..
About megiddo.. I remember reading that myself.. The final war and such.. I wonder why megiddo unleashes a meteor (That is earth element, mind you).. It is odd >.<

I saw Delphi in the play Odepius Rex.. I guess it wasn't from Golden Sun..

Oh.. What is Cloto's Distaff's signifigance? I just forgot.. >.<..

Edit..

I know everyone wants to be righteous, but the last two people who posted were also off topic, as they posted about how another person was off topic.. Is that any more acceptable than him being off-topic in the first place? I am just curious..
Once again..

Last two people.. It seems to be more, actually.. Like, the last 4 posts..

[golden_djiin]

right,your a bit overeacting,nobody.all i said was 'righto'.

This has absolutely nothing to do with the topic, and it is the second time you have posted as such. You have been issued a warning. Again, make your posts constructive to the topic; do not simply respond to what another member said. - Riad

[Mars Djinni]

Lyiana, on Mar 24 2005, 05:07 PM, said:

So hostile.. :o

I was just about to say something about Delphi.. That is mentioned in the game, yes?  An item, I think.. If not, it must have been in Fire Emblem..
About megiddo.. I remember reading that myself.. The final war and such.. I wonder why megiddo unleashes a meteor (That is earth element, mind you)..  It is odd >.<

Delphi is an ancient Greek City-state. Maybe that's why you've been hearing it everywhere. The meteor might be a sort of way to emphasize God's power.

[Nobody]

Lyiana, on Mar 24 2005, 07:07 PM, said:

I was just about to say something about Delphi

Y'know, you reminded me of something.
Daila (a city in Indra xD) could be Delhi (a city in India).

[Omega]

You know... Golden Sun 2... The beggining reminds me of the tsunami... and then all that breaking off of the land. You that one part of a country REALLY broke off! Thisa could be a co-incidence because GD: TLA was made BEFORE it happened...

[Nobody]

You're right. Ecxept the tsunami that actually happened caused many times more damage than the one in GS.

[Lyiana]

Nobody, on Mar 25 2005, 10:15 AM, said:

You're right. Ecxept the tsunami that actually happened caused many times more damage than the one in GS.

I had never considered the tsunami o.o;;.. However, Posiden created a tidal wave every time he raised.. I guess that was pretty obvious in the game..
Still.. Does anybody know the signifigance of Cloto's Distaff?

[golden_djiin]

no,but i have an obvious thing about the wise one.
he is god in a sense,in the form of a one eyed rock.XDdumb but true.XD

[Lyiana]

Hm.. I don't know the rules on a revive.. But this tread is interesting, and it is always good to find something else out. I just ran into this today:

Lethe is a river in hades, namely The River of Forgetfulness
Hm.. The Mythril Blade unleashes Lethe Albion or something like that.. What is that second word?

[lifeform287]

We also have Dullahan here.....
Just found that Dullahan is part of Irish Folklore.
Who would figure Dullahan would have some history....

[Omega]

Lyiana, on Apr 8 2005, 01:47 AM, said:

Hm.. I don't know the rules on a revive.. But this tread is interesting, and it is always good to find something else out. 

XD I was about to make a topic like this a loooong time ago... Oh well The Wise One could also be that thing on your US Dollar. I think it has a floating eye right above the pyramid....

[Lyiana]

Omega, on Apr 7 2005, 06:22 PM, said:

XD I was about to make a topic like this a loooong time ago... Oh well The Wise One could also be that thing on your US Dollar. I think it has a floating eye right above the pyramid....

Lol! So true.. That one's a triangle, though.

Dullahan has a history? That's really neat.. Does that one include an easy way to beat him?

Levathine, or whatever it may be called, was a famed blade from some place.. I forgot where.. Just like Cloto.. What is it >.<

[Warbird]

Yampi might be the Nambi in Southern Africa.


Also, the Golden Sun might represent Christ's final judgement that i believe is supposed to happen when everyone believes in him. And the Golden Age of man really is a name of a certain time period (if memory serves).

and Loansome George is a Galapagos turtle btw

[lifeform287]

Lyiana, on Apr 7 2005, 05:03 PM, said:

Dullahan has a history?  That's really neat..  Does that one include an easy way to beat him?

Heh heh..no, no it does not.
Just a note but I looked up Claymore, it's a directional fragmantation mine.
Ok, a sword with the same name as a mine...I find that....different.

[Warbird]

lifeform287, on Apr 7 2005, 10:03 PM, said:

Ok, a sword with the same name as a mine...I find that....different.

Thats prolly a mine with the same name as a sword. seeing as swords came first...

Dont have anymore at the moment, but im looking. Unless you count one of the obvious ones: the Wonder Birds and Pheonixes are based on... the PHEONIX! woo.

[Nobody]

but Pheonixes are mythological, not real o.O
All of the islands in the middle of the Eastern Sea=The Pacific islands

[Mars Djinni]

Because I'm studying greek mythology right now, Maybe I said this before, but Valukar is sorta similar to Vulcan which is similar to Hephaestus, Greek God of Fire.

[Mallick]

Lyiana, on Mar 7 2005, 05:12 PM, said:

No, no.. Do not look on a website.. Pick them up on your own :)

Now, Shaman Village and Contigo were based on an Asian culture/empire near ancient times..  (I got bored so I looked up Hesperia.. Spelling..)
Hesperia is actually the english lettering for this town/village/empire.. They followed the beliefs of a wind god, and outsiders belived they could call the winds.  This empire had internal strife between two elders, and they had some kind of duel on top of a large hill.
Now, what interested me the most..  It was a tale somewhat like Atlantis.. I forgot the name, but there was a place very near that ancient empire that was rumored to dissipear one day, leaving nothing more than a cold wind and a crater lake.

Neat, right?

Oh, and interest?  I tend to hate video games..  There are sooo many better things to do.. Golden Sun is really neat, and the references are amazing :P

I'm sorry that I'm a little late...

Shaman Village is not based on Asian Culture, thank you very much. It is based from an ancient empire in Africa...something along those lines, but it's not Asian. >_>;;

[Warbird]

Nobody, on Apr 7 2005, 10:17 PM, said:

but Pheonixes are mythological, not real o.O

The gods aren't real either...

Tundaria is Antarctica, woo!

[Omega]

Tundaria could be named after "Tundra". Which is like dry frozen land...

[Nobody]

Omega is definately right about that.
And Hesperia is supposed to be North America, so the Shaman Village is probably the native americans.
The following is slightly off topic, but...

Lyiana, on Mar 6 2005, 07:13 PM, said:

Mt. Aleph:  Aleph is the first letter of the hebrew alphabet.

How did you know that? J/w, but are you Jewish (which I am btw)?

[Sea of Time]

All I know is that the name Felix reminds me of Felix the cat. That was a funny cartoon.

[Nobody]

Sol Blade: Sol is a god in roman mythology, but I forgot what he was god of.

[Omega]

Oh! oh! I opened the dictionary and geuss what Omega found?!

Because I'm a muslim I should know about this. There are these spririts in my religion called Jinn. And it's also spelled Djinn! So I geuss that explains Djinn. The plural is also called Djinni. =D I geuss they switched around Plural and singular. ^^

[Mars Djinni]

^ Exactly. I found a Magic: The Gathering Card with "Jinn" in its name while looking around a trading card store.

[Archimedes]

Ah! I have few! (Please tell me if anyone else named these; I was too lazy to look through 'em all).^^

Angara, and all of the continent's names in GS2: They are either the exact, or differently spelled, names of the continents/places in prehistoric Earth (like Angara was the West(?)ern half of Pangea).

I got that info when I was looking at a science museum in a vacation to America. I just saw a map of prehistoric times, and how Pangea came to be Earth as it is today, and I saw those names. Sugoi, ne?

Omega, on May 8 2005, 02:23 PM, said:

Oh! oh!  I opened the dictionary and geuss what Omega found?!

Because I'm a muslim I should know about this. There are these spririts in my religion called Jinn. And it's also spelled Djinn! So I geuss that explains Djinn. The plural is also called Djinni. =D I geuss they switched around Plural and singular. ^^

My father (who is a linguist/medievalist) said that djinn (djinni singular) were like 'faerie godmothers', in that they were little sprites/spirits that were of Elemental origin and they 'helped out' people in need, etc., and were rumoured to be the basis of the Four Elements. Muslim, being an Asian religion, is similar to Shinto-Buddism (which I am) in Japan; we believe that spirits dwell in elderly trees, etc.

Lyiana, on Apr 7 2005, 05:47 PM, said:

Hm.. I don't know the rules on a revive.. But this tread is interesting, and it is always good to find something else out.  I just ran into this today:

Lethe is a river in hades, namely The River of Forgetfulness
Hm..  The Mythril Blade unleashes Lethe Albion or something like that.. What is that second word?

Ah! I've studied river Lethe (Lee-theh). Lethe was the river that souls travelled down, into Hades to await their Judgement. Albion...one second *looks at an online Latin dictionary*...Cool! This is wierd...it was the old name of Great Britain, and river Lethe was said to be in that area. So, it's basically saying, 'The River to Hades in Great Britain.' Hmm. 'Lethe Albion' sounds much better, no?

P.S. Sorry for posting three times in a row.

Mars Djinni, on Mar 21 2005, 07:50 PM, said:

Minerva was Athena's Roman name, right?

Anyways, this is from FE, not Golden Sun, but the spell Fimbulvetr can also be Fimbulwinter, something involving the wolves and the winter. Norse Mythology.

And more on Megiddo - yes, it is a city of Israel, but had much of significance. Being a practicing Christian, when I read the Bible, I read the book of Revalation. In it, the word "Armageddon" means "mound of megiddo" which is most likely where the final war will take place. (That may be why the unleash is a huge meteor.)

Okay, kill me for posting four times, but I have to (he he): Yes, I think Fimbulvetr means Wolf Winter, and I play FE, so it most possible means a ferocious winter (like some people say the weather in winter it is 'biting cold', hence the wolf). Forgive me if I'm wrong.

[Nick Presta]

Archimedes, I'm glad you're so excited about this, but please, ONE post at a time. If you forgot something or want to add something, use the edit button.

Failure to edit your post in the future will result in a percentage warn.

[Wiflewood]

Djinn is actually another word for genie, (as in Alladin) which were like spiritual beings believed to exist in ancient times.

[Mars Djinni]

...And that forgeable item, Orihalcon, is similar to the Atlantean Metal, Oreichalcos. It posessed a lot of magical power and was forged into most weapons and armor the Atlantean's had.

One more thing - Mythril weapons from TLA like Mythril blade and stuff are made from an elven metal depicted in JRR Tolkien's The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings

[Izar]

golden_djiin, on Mar 6 2005, 06:20 PM, said:

the summons are suppoed to be gods...

Judgement is based on Christianity, I forget how, has something to do with the lion, ask Max, he should know. :rolleyes:

I see where all the others come from.

[Mars Djinni]

Izar, on May 21 2005, 09:25 PM, said:

Judgement is based on Christianity, I forget how, has something to do with the lion, ask Max, he should know. :rolleyes:

I see where all the others come from.

I remember reading the Book of Revalation and it describes exactly four somewhat "Guardians" to scrolls in those forms that appear on the summon. (Angel, Goat/Ram, Lion etc.)

[Elliott]

I'd seen djinn before, something to do with genies, but nothing else, except the summons of course, many of them are derived from other myths (neptune, judgement etc.).

[Unicornmaddy]

I've just realised something. Kalt Island, Kalt is German for cold so Kalt Island - Cold Island :P I can't believe nobody's got that...

[se7en]

Cool stuff, I think I found stuff like these about Harry Potter.

Excalibur - the sword in King Arthur (tell me if someone put this already)

[Mars Djinni]

Might have been put already. It's also one of the obvious ones.

[Tifa]

I'm kind of surprised no one's mentioned the Tomegathericon. It's always seemed like a reference to the Necronomicon to me, not only because of the name, but because of the dark abilities it grants the user, including the summoning of undead creatures, or Necromancy. Not to mention the classes 'Necrolyte' and 'Necromage'.

[Kaj]

Unicornmaddy, on Aug 28 2005, 12:51 PM, said:

I've just realised something. Kalt Island, Kalt is German for cold so Kalt Island - Cold Island :D I can't believe nobody's got that...

Man, I already knew that for a looooooooooooong time..... :P Little freaky island :lol:

[Unicornmaddy]

I was watching the Discovery Channel with my brother and there was something about the ruins of Ankhol (pronounced Ankor). There was something about about it being the main trading port in SE Asia. They sold furs, spices, vegetables. Also from a journal this guy wrote that the women their were s exed up... :P
Anyway Ankohl was a very prosperous town! Until there was war... Then the city was abanded and destroyed. When I saw the pictures of it I thought 'woah that looks so much like the game!'
It was quite scary really...

[Sea of Time]

Not scary, interesting, I saw that too and it's obvious that it's a likeness the GS people took into consideration.

[Enoch]

Agatio, on Jun 3 2005, 08:35 PM, said:

I'd seen djinn before, something to do with genies, but nothing else, except the summons of course, many of them are derived from other myths (neptune, judgement etc.).

djinn and djinni; I heard that if a geinie was wished free that then it was known as djinn, and it could then do whatever it wanted, but geinies don't have anything to do with real life. Geinies are only myth, as if I had to tell u that.

[Sea of Time]

Yeah, if there was an original idea in Golden Sun it was the djinn.

[water adept]

The thing about the summons when it describes them not all of them are true like neried is queen of the sea and posiedon/neptunes sister in greek mythology.And ramses was a pharoh not gaurdian of the pharoh and I dont feel like explaining everything else.

[Colt the earth adept]

I was looking for something on Megaera, here's a quote of it since I'm kinda tired some looking lol.

Quote

In Greek mythology the Erinyes or Eumenides (the Romans called them the Furies) were female personifications of vengeance. They were usually said to have been born from the blood of Uranus when Cronus castrated him. According to a variant account, they were born from Nyx. Their number is usually left indeterminate, though Virgil, probably working from an Alexandrian source, recognized three: Alecto ("unceasing"), Megaera ("grudging"), and Tisiphone ("avenging murder"). The heads of the Erinyes were wreathed with serpents, their eyes dripped with blood, and their whole appearance was terrific and appalling. Sometimes they had the wings of a bat or bird, or the body of a dog.

This is why Megaera's description is goddess of vengeance, I might go looking up more on these.

This post has been edited by Colt the earth adept: 01 December 2005 - 10:35 PM

[firecracker]

Chi stands for ch in the ancient greek alphabet

[Colt the earth adept]

Actually Chi is also known as spirit energy.

[The Lord of the Morning]

Okay, some of this has been touched on, but I'd like to clarify a few things.

Hesperia is actually the name of a continent from Greek culture; it's the name of the continent "beyond the western sea, where it is ever warm and the vine grows sweet". When America was discovered, one of the names it was given was Hesperia (along with Atlantis, Hy Brazil, etc).

And the names of many of the continents refer to the cratons of Earth (craton is a stable part of the earth's crust). Angara is an alternate name for the Siberia craton, which made up part of the Laurasian supercontinent (northern half of Pangea), Gondwana is the southern supercontinent that broke from Pangea (giving us Gondowan).

Angara was not a continent in it's own right, it was a craton, or continental core.

Lemuria is an Atlantis-like nation in Hindu mythology that is in the Indian Ocean, just about where it is in Golden Sun.

Also, did anyone take a careful look at the picture of Weyard during the Golden Age of Alchemy (it's on King Hydros of Lemuria's screen thing in the throne room). I made a careful drawing of it a while back, and just recently I was looking at maps of ancient supercontinents and cratons, and the map of Pangea looks almost identical to the map I drew!

Weyard before the Tsunami looks different from Weyard After the Tsunami; in fact, it seems that the Tsunami made Weyard become more modern looking than it was in GS1. In Golden Sun 1, Hesperia and Atteka were almost attached to Angara and Gondowan. This reminds me of Gondwana and Laurasia- the super continents that comprised of mostly Laurasia- Laurentia (N. America) and Angara (Siberia), and Gondwana- S. America and Africa. Indra is the only continent that's moved backwards since the Tsunami- it used to be attached to Angara (there's even a coast near Champa that it would fit perfectly into), but now it's moved southward and wedged bt/wn Gondowan and Osenia, which happens to be a misspell of Oceania, a geographical region also known as Australasia- the combination of Australia and Polynesia.

[Toasty64]

I didn't read all of the forum, so please exscuse me for repeating stuff.

The Yampi desert: I think there's a desert in or around china with a similar name

I can't remeber anymore of them right now, but I'll post again(or edit) if I remeber any. And might I add that alot of the stuff that I've here (the first page) I didn't even know, WOW. And one more thing (off topic), If you walk off Idejema in GS2 without waking up your party members (Kraden, Jenna, Sheba), they wake up and one at a time and come up and yell at you.

[Saturos S.]

Vale - greetings (nearly every Roman letter (as in mail) starts with it)