[Blink]

Okokok, so TIME has been the hugest issue in GSW because it isn't universal, day and night aren't the same in different time zones, and nor are the seasons over the hemispheres. So, here's the idea, there is no real number to describe time.

Time is not a variable, but rather, it's a thing, in GSW. The day will have 4 quarters, the Venus quarter, the Jupiter quarter, the Mars quarter, and the Mercury quarter. There will be a clock in GSW that shows which quarter of the day it is within the half circle which currently shows the Sun on the GSW HUD. It will be in relation to East Coast USA time really, changing at 6am, 12pm, 6pm, and 12am. For west coast USA time, this would be 3am, 9am, 3pm, and 9pm. I'm not really sure of the others, but it would be easy enough to figure out once GSW was up and running.

So, pretty much, GSW time could get rid of all kinds of issues. It would make meet ups easier, refering to the hours as Venus and 4/6, being the hour when it changed to Venus quarter plus another 4 hours sine each quarter is 6 hours.

What do you think? Brilliant or hasslesome?

[Neon]

le sigh.

If ever we have time, it needs to be set up so that we have several days in one day. Clearly, it has to be based on a real clock, but it just doesn't work to have a worldwide community being stuck on west coast USA time. YOu'd have to divide the day up into several days, that way the night-day cycle doesn't favour any one time zone.

And the changing sun on the interface is good. Anyone who's played Warcraft 3 knows how i'm imagining it :P.

I'm not entirely sure what you mean, really :angry:. if you mean our day is split into venus, jupiter, mars, and murcury, each containing one cycle of the sun, then it's a cool idea :lol:. Each 'day' would last 6 hours, and the element system allows us to tell what 'day' it is, and thus organize meetings or whatever -_-.

[Blink]

Yeah, the 4 days in a day thing could work, but for right now, the focus is that there's currently no night time. Right now its more of an orginization think, so it would still be day all day long.

As for display, I was thinking more of Wind Waker style...
http://gr.bolt.com/games/gamecube/rpg/legend_of_zelda_wind_waker3.jpg
see the second circle from the bottom left? That's what it should be like, but you can only see the top half of it. And instead of halves, it's divided into the four quarters of the day.

And yes, each quarter could contain a cylce of the sun, but right now, the point is to actually divy up the day into something universal.

[Neon]

have you ever played warcraft 3? They have this sun thing in the interface. Around it is 8 dots that light up as the day progresses. When the last dot light up, the sun in the center chages to a moon and it's night.

We could have something similar. Maybe with only 6 dots though, and when all six are lit the cycle changes.

[Izar]

I don't want to have to remember ANOTHER clock! lol, jk, sounds ok. I'm for it.

Warcraft 3 is so figgin' awesome! The clock there really doesn't provide too much help, but it's ok. Having a system either way should be ok.

[Blink]

Yeah, I've heard about the clock system, but it makes more sense to have it Wind Waker style in my opinion, because its a lot more Golden Sun Age style. It would work well also though if you had the quarter thing with the lights around the edges...hmm...I'm going to MSP something up to see what it would look like...(I call it MSPing now because I use MSP but everyone mistakes it for APS :P)

[lifeform287]

Thats a good idea. I sorta got used to the Wind Waker clock so I guess the time would be stuck in my head. (Or something like that)

Side note: Yay! Someone else who uses MSP!

[Blink]

MSPing is done!

anyways, Here it is at Mars and a half.
http://www.get--a--life.com/OTHER/gswmarquee2.jpg

Here's the first version of end of Mars begining of Jupiter...
http://www.get--a--life.com/OTHER/gswmarquee3.jpg

Here's the second version of it...
http://www.get--a--life.com/OTHER/gswmarquee4.jpg

How's THAT?

[lifeform287]

Not bad...
Ok, I got the first pic (I think) but you lost me on the colouring of the second.
Are you sayin that Jupiter is blue?

Edit: On a closer look, ya nevermind. Looks more purple zoomed in.

[Blink]

Jupiter is dark dark purple, and mercury is blue. I'll post an image comparing the two soon so it's easier to tell...

here we are...

http://www.get--a--life.com/OTHER/gswmarquee5.jpg

[Isaac702]

the quater idea is good but is there any thing specal that happens in each quater or is it just the tme

[Blink]

It's basically how you seperate out the different sections of the day, for planning events and whatnot.

[Isaac702]

Oh ok like am and pm makes sense

[Enoch]

I would like to have a central time for the GSW. Kinda like on those time sensative games, and you could use the affect in gorah when it turns day to night, when the central night time comes along. Then we could do stuff in the dark and different things are available at night time.

[Neon]

yeah, you have the npcs do different things different times of the day :P.

But as we've already discussed, you can't have the night-day cycle as long as our day. Then you have people who always have it as night in their day :\.
So you have about 2-4 cycles for every one of our days. 4 works nicely since you can have Blink's element system to tell what 'day' it is.

[Enoch]

That would be cool to. Though I think that seasons might be going a bit too far..........

But if you could do that, then that would be cool! :P :)

[Blink]

What would you think if days and nights were every other day? Day one it's daylight, day 2 its night time, that way Day and Night don't go by too quickly.

[Enoch]

But some only post on curtain days, and they may never see the best of both sides of the coin. Do it by the hour. Then it will get interesting.

[Blink]

I disagree. That would give me and almost everyone else a headache. We COULD however, have 2/3 of a day, then 1/3 as sunset, 2/3 as night, and 1/3 as dawn. Then it would rotate through the nights and days so that every 3 days you would go through 2 gsw days.

[Eothain]

that sounds like a very good idea blink, nice thinking. And about the "seasons"... i'm not saying it isn't going far, but if they can make it dark/night, light/day, and sunset and sunrise, the why wouldn't they be able to make seasons?...but then again, the problem of people being at different seasons in different countries would come up...

[Nobody]

Good idea, Blink. Scaling the length to 1 day=48 hours (from my calculations) on GSW should make it more interesting, and easier to keep track of.
The Eastern Time idea is also good because that is Max's time zone.

[Blink]

yeah, actually, a day would be only 36 hours.

6 dawn
12 day
6 evening
12 night

and so every three real days, two GSW days would pass by.

[lifeform287]

That's a good idea. Man, ya beat me to it. (Thinkin about the time thing.)

Well, anyway, that probably would work.
Might? Probably will.

*Slinks away to get some revenge*

[Warbird]

I think thats more then a probably.

It might be a little disconcerting to look outside and have it be broad daylight and on the game its evening or night... then again maybe not

How long would the seasons (if any) be?

[Roumaru]

Blink, on Apr 20 2005, 04:49 AM, said:

yeah, actually, a day would be only 36 hours.

6 dawn
12 day
6 evening
12 night

and so every three real days, two GSW days would pass by.

This does indeed sound like a very nice idea.
I see someone mentioned it would be bad to play GSW and ingame it's night. But when you look out your window it's day.
But hey - It's impossible to make the game follow all the timezones of the world anyways.
So why not do it like this.
And it won't change too often if we have a little change every 6 or 12 hour.
I say you should go for that one.

[Neon]

I personally think it's better to make GSW days shorter than our days. So one day lasts about 8 hours. It's long enough and short enough at the same time :). Making a GSW day last 36 hours would feel a bit strange.

[Eothain]

i still think the 36 hour day is better...it's long...but you can log on like 3 (or more) times during those 36 hours and experience a different time of the day for sure...but f you do 8 hour days, then chances are, each session you log on, you might "land" in the same part of the day you landed in your previous session...

[Nobody]

I kinda agree. The 36 hour GSW day gives people around the world chances for it to be day/night etc at a certain time because 36 hours is not a whole number of days.

[Blink]

the lowest I could stand for is 12 hour days, 6 hours day and 6 hours of night. If we went through a day every 8 hours, I think I'd get motion sickness from how fast the days went by. :)

But anyways, Max says this won't be a soon implemented feature anyways. But at least most people like the idea of a 36 hour day, so if Max ever does add in time, I think we all know what he'll choose.

Also, I log on the same time each day Neon, so some shorter time would never let me see both sides of the coin in terms of daylight and nighttime in GSW.

[Eothain]

Blink, on Apr 21 2005, 12:24 AM, said:

Also, I log on the same time each day Neon, so some shorter time would never let me see both sides of the coin in terms of daylight and nighttime in GSW.

yeah, that's something i forgot to add in my previous post...perfect-fitting intervals in 24 hrs would mean, as he said, the same "time of the day" in gsw as well

[Simply_Dark]

lifeform287, on Apr 20 2005, 04:51 AM, said:

That's a good idea. Man, ya beat me to it. (Thinkin about the time thing.)

Well, anyway, that probably would work.
Might? Probably will.

*Slinks away to get some revenge*

Don't be too harsh on yourself, this was already suggested, last year, when people didn't have time to do everything and couldn't take all suggestions, so it's just a shot in the dark of reviving an old idea, and it actually worked this time =\. However, the dawn and dusk is a good thing to add to the game.