[Elliott]

Yes, as long as you don't use it to aquire illegal files such as movies, music etc.

[Mycarayne]

In my opinion:

If you download something (say, a game) that you cannot in any other way obtain, It is okay.
If you download music that you own (Why would you do that anyway?) it is legal.
If you downlaod a song just to check out a band, it is legal. I admittedly got a song of the net (Nightwish :lol: ) becasue I'd never heard them before. And I liked the song so much, I went and bought the album. Therefore, because I illegally downloaded music, "Nightwish" sold another album.

Movies shouldn't be downloaded :) Rent them at a video shop ^_^

[Elliott]

Same for me. I downloaded a few dark tranquillity songs, then went out and bought an album and a single, planning on buying another album very soon. It's ok I think to download music is using it to "test" a band on whether they are wirth your 30 bucks.

[Nick Presta]

http://en.wikipedia....gal_controversy

Go wiki!

[Betrayer]

My opinion on this is:
- My hat off to the government if they find a way to say that they're allowed in your computer.
- They're geniuses if they can get into your computer, and know that you downloaded it off Kazaa, if you have them downloading into a folder that hasn't anything to do with it.
- I'd be scared if they had a way to prove that it was you whom was on the computer to download it if they could prove the first two.

[Eugine]

As far as I can see, nothing is software related in Grenada is illegal. Only big countries enforce these laws anyways. :)

[Papercut]

I know some people who do nothing but download tons of music, they just use Winamp, they don't even have any physical CDs.

I download anything from Music to Movies to Software, through a file-sharing program. I don't do it very much, certainly not as much as the aformentioned people.

Either way, it's illegal in the Government's eyes, although they really should be more worried about bigger things. Don't kid yourself into thinking it's not illegal. You either take the risk of downloading this illegal material, or you don't. The choice is up to you.

[Someone Else]

Heh, I once downloaded OoT as a ROM (I know, I know the rules; no ROM discussions but hey, it's a similar topic) but I don't consider it illegal because OoT is no longer in the markets (unless it's used, but what the hey).

Anyway...

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My opinion on this is:
- My hat off to the government if they find a way to say that they're allowed in your computer.
- They're geniuses if they can get into your computer, and know that you downloaded it off Kazaa, if you have them downloading into a folder that hasn't anything to do with it.
- I'd be scared if they had a way to prove that it was you whom was on the computer to download it if they could prove the first two.

While sarcastic, PDM is right (just what I was thinking). :P

[Elliott]

True. No matter how much the warn people, it's near impossible to catch them.

[Mycarayne]

nick1presta, on May 13 2005, 04:08 AM, said:

http://en.wikipedia....gal_controversy

Go wiki!

Did our faithful Admin just spam? :P
Wonders will never cease...

Heh, to be honest, I've downloaded ep 1-36 of Full Metal Alchemist. Only because it isn't aired here.

[Andross]

Skeith, on May 12 2005, 12:13 PM, said:

Is it legal to use Kazaa?

Only if you download uncopyrighted content. Copyright laws protected these items before Napster even.

But let me say this:

Kazaa is the worst file-sharing program. IT SUCKS. Get Limewire or use BitTorrent
Reason: Kazaa has spyware and gives itself the right to take whatever sensitive information it wants to from your PC.

[Izar]

That's what I heard about Kazza. That's why I dare not use it.

If downloading mp3s is illegal, then why hasn't the government put a ban on it, and WHY do bands and companies FREELY give mp3s to sites like purevolume.com? It's not illegal. Just don';t use anything like Kazaa or Limewire to get illegally done files.

[Andross]

...Limewire has no real spyware...so if you are going to steal copyrighted material, you might as well NOT do Kazaa and do Limewire. Not that I'm telling you that you should, or suggesting that yousteal music or anything...*cough*

[lifeform287]

Same goes with ROMS. They are only legal if you have the game.
I don't think it is legal to use the ROM to see if you like the game, for you would still have the game and have not bought it. I buy the game, get the ROM so I can play with gameshark.(A gameshark my first Gameboy, so ya.) I also use the ROM to rip sprites. Any game I don't have, I go find a sheet someone has made (USE SPRITERS RESOURCE!) and give credit etcetera etcetera. Anywho, that is the legal way. Anything else I'm pretty sure is illegal.

Edit: Give credit to the company SOMEWHERE if you are ripping.

[Kubjelle]

Kazaa sucks!
BitTorrent is the best!
It's diffrent from regular P2P klients.
I could explain the diffrences, but I'm to lazy! :P

[Elliott]

Eh, I've never had a problem with Limewire. There's some features I would like added such as a "kb downloaded/total kb" thing, and some improvements to the search, but as far as finding music, it's pretty darn good. Good meaning that heaps of people use it, and it's safe.

[The Postman]

Bearshare has that. It's pretty similar to Limewire. So I use both. :P >_>

[Elliott]

That's correct. But pretty much all movies and music are copyright.

[Eugine]

I hardly see anyone using p2p to download "legal" files/software etc. anyways. When you have a p2p, your intensions are bad :D

[Meddyan]

Its illegal, yes.

But theres no way in hell anyone can catch you. They are far, far more concerned with finding the top-sites and the people who rip and share movies before they're even released than the simple average joe downloading a Britney Spears Mp3 or a 10 year old game for the PC by a company that is long dead.

Oh, and i'd like to also point out that Kazaa sucks. Soulseek is excellent for music, and although i haven't tried Limewire it seems alright. Bittorrent is the best you can get though...

[Kewne]

At least two of my friends use DC++. Is it a good program?

[Venus_Man1]

DC++ is a great downloading program. But it's a little too complicated for me, though.

[Kewne]

I agree, it's complicated. Tested it and didn't like it. I'm using soulseek instead. It's great.

[Luna]

If you're going to download things like anime, it is technically legal if said anime is not licensed.

[Izar]

Skeith, on May 19 2005, 12:26 PM, said:

hopefully i've got this right.

I can use which program I think and download music and movies legal, as long as they aren't copyrighted.
correct me if I'm wrong. If not, I've had my question answered.

They CAN have copyrights, you just need permission, unless with limewire, you can't have any copyrighted materials.

SoulSeek? I heard that was 10 times better than Limewire. I haven't tried either, so heh.

[Kewne]

I was just wondering if downloading files found with windows media player are illegal too?

[Kubjelle]

Yes aaaaaaaaaaand no. It depends, read the previous posts!

[Golden Djinn13]

Izar, on Jun 8 2005, 11:42 PM, said:

SoulSeek? I heard that was 10 times better than Limewire. I haven't tried either, so heh.

I've heard of soulseek, but I use Limewire. Is it good?

[Eugine]

I use bittorent and Limewire, they work hand in hand. Music for Limewire, programs for Azureus ^^^

[Simply_Dark]

What abou good ol' eMule? I use it, because it's more "safe". It takes some time to find the sources after you add a file to your download list, but it doesn't have viruses and fakes like KaZaA (as much :))

[loz]

Actually, Limewire isnt safe...
I use WinMX and BitTorrent...WinMX you can set it for only music and I havent gotten any spyware,adaware,viruses yet so I find it safe =]