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Infinity-stuff Is Now Xhtml 1.1 And Css2 Valid

#1   Nick Presta 

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    Posted 29 June 2005 - 01:14 AM

    yay 4 me lole!

    My site is now 100% valid and 100% functional. I had to use an <!--[if IE]> hack but it works fine and validates.

    Anyways, how important is validation vrs functionality to you? Is there a medium or do you go to either extreme?

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      Posted 29 June 2005 - 08:17 AM

      All my pages are XHTML 1.0 Transitional valiated, I can't stand to see it not validated. Before I ever post any page to the public I make sure its validated first. I can't do strict though ^_^.

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        Posted 29 June 2005 - 08:30 AM

        I can't sleep if my pages aren't 100% XHTML 1.1 and CSS2 Valid.

        Not really, but I do try and keep it all valid as I can. A tip for anyone using JS is to use <script src=" as a means of keeping the Javascript out of your page, as JS can make pages lose their validity.

        Oh, and tables for layout can go to hell.

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          Posted 29 June 2005 - 11:32 AM

          nick1presta, on Jun 29 2005, 02:14 AM, said:

          yay 4 me lole!

          My site is now 100% valid and 100% functional. I had to use an <!--[if IE]> hack but it works fine and validates.

          Anyways, how important is validation vrs functionality to you? Is there a medium or do you go to either extreme?


          Whoohoo!

          Nice work. Just keep in mind to keep everything clean.

          I think Functionaity is needed. Why have a site that doesn't funtion right, if that's what you were talking about.

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            Posted 29 June 2005 - 05:42 PM

            It's always possible to get a layout that functions well and still has valid code. There should never be a need no comprimise validity over getting something to work.

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              Posted 29 June 2005 - 07:01 PM

              I don't try and get XHTML 1.1, I just stick with XHTML 1.0 Transitional, but I always make my CSS valid as CSS2. A note on tables, I am actually using them with GV2, but not for layout purposes, but for their actual purpose *gasp* displaying data in a tabular format! ^_^

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                Posted 29 June 2005 - 07:26 PM

                There has never been any argument against using tables for tabular data. Put simply, if you can get 2 divs sitting next to each other, tables for layout is obsolete. Because the only real advantage when it came to tables for layout was getting columns, whihc can now be done pretty easily with float: left and float: right.

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                  Posted 29 June 2005 - 08:21 PM

                  ^Redundant ^_^

                  You don't have to do float:left and then float:right, float:left works fine all the time ;)

                  It's unfotunate that IE has no compatibilitiy with display:table-cell / table-row / table, because that would make things easier, and I don't want to have to use a bunch of hacks. But why am I saying unfortunate? Of course IE has no compatibility, they're a bunch of pansies who actually said that they don't feel confident about CSS2! (!?!?)

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                    Posted 29 June 2005 - 08:25 PM

                    When I tried just floating left or right, the content went around the column, not straight down, I just feel it's safer doing left and right, and then putting in margin, padding, width etc. And it's only 2 more words in the stylesheet.

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                      Posted 29 June 2005 - 08:35 PM

                      My pages used to be XHTML 1.0 Transitional but I wasn't using html semantically.

                      My page is now semantic and valid. I feel better although the layout isn't anything special.

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                        Posted 29 June 2005 - 08:48 PM

                        Agatio, on Jun 29 2005, 08:25 PM, said:

                        When I tried just floating left or right, the content went around the column, not straight down, I just feel it's safer doing left and right, and then putting in margin, padding, width etc. And it's only 2 more words in the stylesheet.

                        That's probably because you aren't setting the width properly ;)
                        GV2 using only float:left in every single DIV, so at least you know it's possible ^_^

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                          Posted 29 June 2005 - 08:56 PM

                          Oh, I thought you meant having 1 div float: left and the other div not float at all. I do float right and left, so that way on is on the far right, and the other on the far left of the container, so there is a bit more of a margin. Plus wouldn't it be correct to have left and right, rather than left and left?

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                            Posted 01 July 2005 - 04:18 AM

                            Agatio: About that JS thing. Just add a comment around the code, the validator will ignore the JScode then.

                            Nick1Presta: I think there is some XHTML 1.1 you need som XML things. Can't realy remember. XD But I think there was somethin. :P ARG!


                            My sites validate! Whohoooo! And I use divs!
                            It wasn't long ago since you all flamed me cause I said divs was best.. ;) ;_;

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                              Posted 01 July 2005 - 04:24 PM

                              Agatio, on Jun 29 2005, 08:56 PM, said:

                              Oh, I thought you meant having 1 div float: left and the other div not float at all. I do float right and left, so that way on is on the far right, and the other on the far left of the container, so there is a bit more of a margin. Plus wouldn't it be correct to have left and right, rather than left and left?


                              Not really, because floating left will automatically align text to the left, so you don't have to deal with floating right. The other thing is that if you want a fluid table all the way across in addition to going up and down, floating left both times prevents that margin.

                              There is no real right or wrong, my preference is just floating left.


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