[Wiflewood]

Do you smoke cigarettes? I don't, and have no intention to start either.
Post your thoughts and opinions here.

[loz]

Well I know I wont because 1. they kill you, and 2. when I walk by a couple smokers sometimes it makes it hard for me to breathe......so thats more than e nough to say NO lol

[Neo]

Well, what's smoking? I do smoke one or two sometimes when I'm at a friend... but I do it hardly once a month. It's like I only smoke when there is a party at a friend.

[Venus_Man1]

I'll probably start anytime because many of my pals smokes... We'll see. But for now, no, I don't.

[Jeremiah]

I'll never start smoking!
My mom dit it once when she was a child but she could quit...

[I'm Always BROKE]

My parents where enslaved of it when they where like 16 till they where 36. That is 20 years of smoking! They are now both 43 years old but when I was a little kid I hated it when they smoked. So I will never smoke cigarettes. Well maybe once to just try it. But I surely never will be enslaved to it.

[el_Sethro]

never have, never will. none of my friends smoke, but even if they did, I'm much too stubborn to succumb to peer pressure

[Elliott]

Put it this way. You pay (and usually it's fair amount of money) for something that will make you smell bad, make you sick, make you cough, and eventually kill you. I see no logic whatsoever in that, not even in social smoking like Neo was talking about. I'd rather not have those friends than endanger my health by smoking just to keep them.

[Echo_djinn]

This is my opinion so but I'll just say this. Smokers can stick their cigarettes up whatever hole they have in their Forking body. Why would you continue to damage your body by smoking? Not only does it effect you but the people around you. It's like stabbing yourself continuously with a needle. Sooner or later you are going to cause some serious damage to yourself. Screw smokers. Don't smoke.

[Luna]

I always suffocate next to people who smoke... And I get scolded by my family for covering up my nose because it is unrespectful for the person who is smoking e_e; What the crap. It is unrespectful of the pesron who is smoking to be spreading that...23^@#%* in everyone else's faces.

I hate smoking. Period.

[Nemphtis]

Buying a bag of yay makes you relaxed each & everyday. :agitated:

As for smoking cigerettes, the mere smell of them makes me sick. I can't wait until Cigerettes get banned and Weed is made legal.

[Echo_djinn]

Weed doesn't give off the same smell as a cigar would but it's just as bad. With each puff you cut down the chance of your future kids until your "cucumber" just wont jump up to the excitement anymore. Anubis, I know you don't want that. I guess a puff here and a puff there isn't all that bad but never get hooked to the stuff. Though It's quite hard to do that since weed isn't that addictive.

[Andross]

If gov'ts weren't so ignorant, they'd realize cigarettes are more dangerous and harmful to a person's health than weed. The reason they ban weed is because it screws with your thoughts. They don't do it with cigarettes though. But if beer can screw with your head, why not ban that too? *rolls eyes*

They should at least decriminalize, and not persecute people for using it to ease their pain when they're terminally ill.

As for whether or not I smoke, never have, never will.

[My Best Wishes]

Andross, on Jul 8 2005, 11:48 AM, said:

 
If gov'ts weren't so ignorant, they'd realize cigarettes are more dangerous and harmful to a person's health than weed. The reason they ban weed is because it screws with your thoughts. They don't do it with cigarettes though. But if beer can screw with your head, why not ban that too? *rolls eyes* 
 
They should at least decriminalize, and not persecute people for using it to ease their pain when they're terminally ill. 
 
As for whether or not I smoke, never have, never will. 
 

Governments won't ban it cos their fat assholes. They gain to much money in taxes from ciggerate companies.

My nan died of smoking this January. Her six month this 15th. My other grandma smokes, my aunt smokes, my uncle did till he had some type of heart attack or stroke or something. I ain't touching it.

@Agatio-My favorite post you have made yet.

[Dullahan]

People who are stupid enough to smoke deserve the diseases they get from it. Mmmmmm... Tar and Nicotine what an appetizing combonation. If i start smoking i'll commit suicide-it's better than dying of lung cancer.

[el_Sethro]

watch, on Jul 8 2005, 05:27 AM, said:

Governments won't ban it cos their fat assholes. They gain to much money in taxes from ciggerate companies.

well, my solution is to slowly erode away the rights of smokers, while also gradually and steadily raising the taxes on cigarettes until everyone quits. Of course that would most likely just cause tobacco to be sold illegally, and no one would buy it at stores anymore... well, bah

anyway, I think that smoker's rights should be reduced, too. for example, in many non-smoking buildings, smokers must go outside to have a cigarette. well, that's not good enough for me. I don't like walking through a wall of second-hand smoke just to get in the building. they should do like at the hospital, with a big line around the door that says "no smoking beyond this point".

but anyway, the government can't just make smoking illegal, because there'll still be lots of people who are addicted, and they won't quit, they'll just start getting cigarettes from smugglers. if they make cigarettes too expensive, smokers will just get them from smugglers. I guess the best we can do is to stop them from smoking in public, so at least those of us who don't smoke won't have to put up with them. that's basically what they're doing here in Newfoundland. I'm not sure whether it's decided yet, but there was talk of banning smoking in bars here. also, we just got 2 billion dollars from the government, and with the new bill, they've increased funding and reduced taxes for EVERYTHING, except cigarettes, which now have higher taxes :agitated:

[Nemphtis]

Haha my grandfather was one funny-ass guy. He got cancer because he smoked 3 packets a day. When the doctor told him he had cancer he said "Ohhh I need to sit down... Somebody give me a cigerette". The day he died he had smoked 6 packets that day, he said "If I'm deffinately gonna die, I may as well die doing whatever I like". A very grumpy yet interesting old fart.

[Kewne]

I've never tried smoking and I don't think I'll ever try.

[Demon Adept]

I'll never, ever, ever, ever smoke! Too many people in my family have died already. I wish that there was someway to get people to stop so then they could ban the stupid cigarettes once and for all! My doctor told me to try to avoid second hand smoke as it would make my allergies worse.

[Wiflewood]

They show a 'Stop smoking' commercial on TV sometimes. A guy sees a girl he likes in a bar, and goes up to her. He bends down, and sniffs, and pulls back fast, and walks away disgusted. The girl pulls out a cig and starts smoking, and the advert proudly announces that: "If you smoke, You stink."

I thought that was pretty good.

[Izar]

Andross, on Jul 7 2005, 08:48 PM, said:

If gov'ts weren't so ignorant, they'd realize cigarettes are more dangerous and harmful to a person's health than weed. The reason they ban weed is because it screws with your thoughts. They don't do it with cigarettes though. But if beer can screw with your head, why not ban that too? *rolls eyes*

They should at least decriminalize, and not persecute people for using it to ease their pain when they're terminally ill.

As for whether or not I smoke, never have, never will.

BOTH are harmful, so BOTH cigarretes and weed should be illegal. And weed is worse than cigarettes, believe me I know.

Anyways, I'm not saying If I smoke, have smoked, but I will tell you it's pathetic.

A friend of mine has emphesema, and he got it from weed in just a decade from when he srtated, opposed to my mom who smokes cigarettes, she got emphesema just not too long ago, and she started smoking when she was like, 12.

Anyways, my mom started smoking when she was at parties too, and if you look at her now, it's sad.

[Someone Else]

Never smoked (I'm 14, duh :agitated:) and never will. The people who smoke have some serious problems in their life, and smoking cigarettes calms them down.

Drugs are magical like that. :angry: :lol:

[Golden Djinn13]

I'll never smoke and I'll never understand what the purpose of a cigarette is for. Why do people smoke. It makes no sense to buy something that you know can kill you.

[I'm Always BROKE]

Most people who do smoke started when they where young. It begins mostly when all of your mates smoke, you go to a party with them, get drunk, smoke someting, smoke some more because you think its tough and then you smoke till you get enslaved of it. Cigaretts are just shiz! And they are forking expensive!

[Nemphtis]

Izar, on Jul 8 2005, 05:32 PM, said:

BOTH are harmful, so BOTH cigarretes and weed should be illegal. And weed is worse than cigarettes, believe me I know.

Anyways, I'm not saying If I smoke, have smoked, but I will tell you it's pathetic.

A friend of mine has emphesema, and he got it from weed in just a decade from when he srtated, opposed to my mom who smokes cigarettes, she got emphesema just not too long ago, and she started smoking when she was like, 12.

Anyways, my mom started smoking when she was at parties too, and if you look at her now, it's sad.

No, you don't know, and no, I don't believe you. I have smoked a cigerette and weed and a cigerette is addictive and that's all it is. Weed does not get you addicted and the only downside is the fact you can't think straight but if they had a law that you can't smoke it in public it would be cool.

Let's face it, those two countries are fighting for land, Israel and the other country I forgot. If both of their leaders were smoking weed at a peace conference that war would be over in 2 hours.

High Israel: "We want our country back... Haha... This is some good weed..."

High Other: "I agree! Something we agree on, this is some good shiz! I tell you what, let's BOTH not get the land, and make a neutral land where we can farm more trees for Weed and share it equally between our nations!"

High Israel: "Deal! You're a very smart man, I like you!"

High Other: "I like you too, you're my homie now!"

[My Best Wishes]

Anubis, on Jul 9 2005, 05:39 AM, said:

No, you don't know, and no, I don't believe you. I have smoked a cigerette and weed and a cigerette is addictive and that's all it is. Weed does not get you addicted and the only downside is the fact you can't think straight but if they had a law that you can't smoke it in public it would be cool.

Let's face it, those two countries are fighting for land, Israel and the other country I forgot. If both of their leaders were smoking weed at a peace conference that war would be over in 2 hours.

High Israel: "We want our country back... Haha... This is some good weed..."

High Other: "I agree! Something we agree on, this is some good shiz! I tell you what, let's BOTH not get the land, and make a neutral land where we can farm more trees for Weed and share it equally between our nations!"

High Israel: "Deal! You're a very smart man, I like you!"

High Other: "I like you too, you're my homie now!"

How can i say this nicely.......wtf, thats whacked did you even think before you posted.

Ban both of them to make you all happy. I don't get it, cigerette companies can't advertise on t.v and they have to put warnings on their packets but beer and all that can advertise and don't need warnings. And the amount of drunk drivers.......

[Elliott]

Well alcohol isn't as addictive (if at all), it's more socially accepted, and quite simply, it's awesome. It's just that there are stupid people who decide to drive after drinking, and end up killing people. That alone shouldn't ruin it for all the people who like alcohol (me included).

[Neo]

Alcohol is better then everything which you can smoke... and some other things. but that's not the subject right now.

I do have a few friends who smoke, and about 50% of those guys started becáuse they lost somebody. one guy lost his mum and started smoking, another started because both his grandfather and grandmother died.
I only know one person who smokes weed, and damn, his face looks messed up!

[Andross]

Alcohol can have the same addicting effects as cigarretes if you're a heavy drinker, but it isn't as bad in the addictive sense. I think it's equal to a cigarrette though, if not worse, because of it's effects on other people.

Izar: Cigarretes are tar, amonia, and nicotine. That's POISON. While both marijuana and cigarrettes can cause disease, from what I understand, cigarrettes have more potential to damage your brain, lungs, and heart. I don't condone smoking marijuana, but my only arguement as to why it shouldn't be treated the same as cocaine is because for people with terminal illnesses, it can help ease their pain. That's about it though.

[Izar]

Anubis, on Jul 8 2005, 02:39 PM, said:

No, you don't know, and no, I don't believe you. I have smoked a cigerette and weed and a cigerette is addictive and that's all it is. Weed does not get you addicted and the only downside is the fact you can't think straight but if they had a law that you can't smoke it in public it would be cool.

Let's face it, those two countries are fighting for land, Israel and the other country I forgot. If both of their leaders were smoking weed at a peace conference that war would be over in 2 hours.

High Israel: "We want our country back... Haha... This is some good weed..."

High Other: "I agree! Something we agree on, this is some good shiz! I tell you what, let's BOTH not get the land, and make a neutral land where we can farm more trees for Weed and share it equally between our nations!"

High Israel: "Deal! You're a very smart man, I like you!"

High Other: "I like you too, you're my homie now!"

That relatively made no sense. I do know how harmful weed can be in life, it made mine miserable. Cigaretttes are more addictive, I know, but that's not the main problem. Like you said: Weed does not get you addicted and the only downside is the fact you can't think straight... If you can't think strait with it, it's harmfull.

My sister is training as a medical assistant and physical therapist, and she knows alot more about this stuff that anyone here. Weed's effects damage brain tissue, and it's smoke "crystalized" in the lungs, unlike the tar build up in cigaettes. There are medicines out there that surpass the "medicinal" effects of marijuana, making it not needed. And I know people who use medical marijuana, and it is not smoked, it is taken in the form of a pill.

I have no problem with alchohol, unless you drink too heavy. I hate beer, but wine I like, mainly because it tastes better.

[Andross]

Izar, on Jul 9 2005, 06:58 PM, said:

And I know people who use medical marijuana, and it is not smoked, it is taken in the form of a pill.

And last time I checked, the gov't was still banning everything and anything marijuana.

[Izar]

Lol, if it is illegal as medicine, fire that doctor. That "friend" uses it. He says it's crap, but he doesn't like taking narcotics like Vicodin. Vicodin just plain out sucks anyways, but it is needed.

EDIT: Hope this helps him- http://www.theeastcarolinian.com/vnews/dis...2/42b8ad45de202

[Andross]

There are doctors that have been prescribing patients to allow them to use marijuana for medicinal purposes still simply because they don't think the Supreme Court is doing the right thing.

[Izar]

That's what I was kinda getting at. I don't care if they do it legally or not anyways. And this topic is more about if you smoke or not, so I'll jsut continue wit this:

Ok, like I said, currently, I do not smoke. :rolleyes:

[Nemphtis]

Alot of things don't let you think straight, why not ban women, cause when a comen jumps on your lap completely naked don't tell me you will be thinking straight. Same goes for money, why not ban money since that makes you do crazy shiz. If I offered you all the money in the world to shut the Fork up, wouldn't it be worth it just to get alllll that money? See, I win.

[Izar]

That was pointless. Money is needed, marijuana is just wanted. Women are needed(wanted too :rolleyes:). And please quick testing the word filters :blink:

[Nemphtis]

Weed is also needed for medical purposes. Weed has unnofficially cured hundreds of people who were feeling depressed. Infact how do you know weed has not saved your life? Maybe a man who had lost everything was going to break down your door and kill your family just to steal the money in your house to pay a debt, but maybe he smoked weed that night and he was so high he changed his mind. It's possible!

[Andross]

^And yet I find that highly implausible all the same . . . weed doesn't save lives as far as I'm concerned.

[Nemphtis]

I feel like killing you right now, but I am smoking weed and I'm too high to care. Weed has just saved your life. :rolleyes:

[Izar]

Be more serious please. Weed doesn't "cure depression" since there is no real cure for it. You can only treat it. It made me more depressed, but I'm not saying if it was from smoking it or a friend or whatever. Anyways, I found on a site that cannabis smoke contains 50% more tar and more cancer-causing chemicals than tobacco smoke.

http://www.nbdhu.on.ca/en/Alcohol%20and%20...uld_know_ab.htm

"Medicinal marijuana" is actually just a pill version of THC, not the whol plant it's self. The only reason the majority of people who want marijuana to be legal for medicinal purposes everywhere is to use it.

http://www.drugwatch...dical%20Use.htm

Oh, And I talked to that friend, he wasn't allowed to use medical Marijuana, as the doctor said he found something better, and was given Marenol or something instead. Sorry for the misinformation, but his brother did say that was what he was using.

[Nemphtis]

"Street names include: pot, weed, grass, dope, MaryJane, hash, weed oil, honey oil or ganja." Whoooo hahahahaha.

"Cannabis affects your depth perception and co-ordination, and your ability to concentrate and react appropriately. This makes it dangerous to do things like ride a bicycle, drive a car or operate heavy machinery." ROFL

That is a great link, I'm bookmarking it to laugh my ass off some more tommorow! :rolleyes:

[Izar]

Like I said, be serious. Your acting very imature. This topic is serious. If you act anymore immature on this topic as you are doing, I may have to warn you. That was also kinda spammy.

That's common sense anyways. Even a smoker knows that's true. i have ridden with someone high, it is terrible.

[Nemphtis]

You're threatening to warn me because I find the link you provided humerous? Wow, you've seen someone smoke maryjanes and/or smoked some yourself, are you a big boy now? Are you in bag boys pants now? Would you like a big boy Spoonslap to go with that?

Smoking weed here is normal, it's everyday life. Police don't care if you smoke weed, they're only interested in class A drugs. If you don't like how seriously I take you or your arguement, then get lost, I can't be bothered with your whining.

[Golden Djinn13]

My friend ( If you could call him one) got busted for smoking weed. ( The idiot actually went outside with it and he is 15 years old) but all he got was house arrest for about 3 months and he has to stay back in the 8th grade. ( hes not that bright, if you know what i mean).

[Nemphtis]

That's strict, people openly smoke weed here. Infact back when I used to work at a liquer store people used to ask me if I sell any openly in public.

[Andross]

How is it strict to smoke weed - as a 15 year old - in public, in the open - and only get 3 months house arrest? C'mon . . . the kid probably failed 8th grade as a result of his own stupidity, not because he got caught smoking weed. Weed kills brain cells galore, so I wouldn't be surprised if weed caused that stupidity in the first place.

[Golden Djinn13]

He didn't fail eight grade ( technically he didn't but he got all D's on his report card), but he is staying back because he was arrested at the time of the GEPA ( the New Jersey state test for all eight graders) He would have failed anyway. but he probably started smoking around the fifth grade. ( I think)

[Andross]

Must have some messed up parents or fell in with the wrong crowd . . . fifth grade? YIKES. Although I always have to remind myself - in Texas, kids start dating in 3rd grade. (Or at least where I live).

[Mallick]

Smoking ciggarettes? No way. Although...
Hey hey hey! Smoke weed everyday!
:o

[lifeform287]

Piers diamondberg master, on Jul 12 2005, 12:06 AM, said:

Hey hey hey! Smoke weed everyday!
:o

Then you have a heart attack, the doctor tells you not to smoke it anymore, then give 'em the finger and say: "I'll do whatever I want. Not like its your body."

Other then that no.

[Venus dude 21]

I'm going to be honest and true here.
I smoke, not chain but like 1 a day.
Its bad but its just how i am.
I personaly think that it should be made illegal, but its not going to be.
So, i'm just going to keep on smoking.
(please no pms telling me to quit)

[m&m]

i think smoking is one of the stupidest things to do. my dad just had a tumor the size of his fist removed from his right lung and that should just be enough to stop, but no! he's still smoking. its a stupid thing to do.

[Mycarayne]

I don't smoke. Never have, never will.

Nuff said.

[Kite]

T_T I will NEVER smoke..
Last week when I went to ohio, alot of my relatives smoke...
I cant do it since NC is getting a lottery, the price for em for go up and they smell like CRAP.

[Demon Adept]

My Dad just had a heart attack earlier this week. Some because of family history and some because he smoked. I have also had a grandmother and a grandfather die from cancer. They were really heavy smokers. I wish that cigarettes had never been created!

[Blink]

Hey! Morons who smoke! Guess what? People say that smoking kills you. You know what? They're WRONG! Smoking doesn't JUST kill you. Smoking kills EVERYONE. Yeah, EVERYONE.

I have asthma, and you know what? Smoking sucks. I haven't tried it, but you think I can actually stand being with someone who smokes? No, I have to stand 10 to 20 feet away, or I'll start coughing like I have lung cancer. And you know what else? You don't have to have asthma to be affected. You don't have to be near them to be affected. You could die from smoking, and it would emotionally kill everyone who knew you. Everyone who stepped aside. My grandma died of smoking. My grandfather is metally off because of it. He does stupid things now. Basically, common sense and politeness are being lost. He smoked and drank for 30 to 40 years.

[Wild Fox]

I don't smoke because for one thing, it's probably the worst thing you could do to your body. I took anatomy this year and I know how delicate your lungs are. Plus, smoking is a waste of money on top of everything. I could go and get some tar for pretty cheap and pour it down my throat. I'd get the same effect. Not to mention that second-hand smoke causes cancer...

And smoking pot...well that's pretty messed up. Why would you smoke a leaf? It confounds me. Instead of getting up and getting a life, people sit on their butts and get high. I know a girl who used to go to school with me. When I first met her, she was insanely smart and was in really advanced classes. She had a lot of potentional. But then she started going out with some creepy guy who got her started on drugs. Now she has lost her chances to succeed because now she is stuck in a rehab center. It makes me sad...

I don't want to preach to you guys, but don't smoke. Pot, cigarettes, whatever. Smoking is a sign of weakness. Because really, who here smokes because they woke up one morning and said "hey, I think I'm going to start smoking today!"? People smoke because they're pressured into it. Please don't give into the peer pressure.

(Oh and boys, most girls find smoking as a turn-off. Just FYI)

[pHantOm]

I have never smoked, and I do not intend to. I have been offered weed by many guys from the hockey team (im on varsity so :/) and ive turned them down. I turned them down because I see them after a party at a hockey game exhausted after only 1 min. shifts. Really lame. As for cigarettes, my grandpa is a major chain smoker, and no one likes being around him since he smells bad and everything. I dont blame the government for people getting sick, I blame the stupidity of peoplel to smoke even after hearing all the storys and all the SCIENTIFIC facts about what it does to your body.

[Dullahan]

You realy have to thank the smokers who give cancer with THEIR cigarette smoke, smoking won't be banned beacause of the greedy b*****ds who make a fortune, although it's now banned in public places where i live.

[Ravenblade]

It's all well and good to say "smoking kills and it does X, Y and Z to your body", but think about it - all the people who smoke know this fact. They're smoking regardless. Some may be ignorant to just how bad it is, and some may give in to peer pressure, but for a lot of people, they use it to relieves stress and relax - make their lives easier.

Now, you guys (no offence) are too young to really appreciate adult stress/depression and thus would have no idea how powerful a force any form of escape from the pain of normal living is. (I haven't experienced it either, but being at uni this year, i saw a lot of people smoking for that reason and i sympathise with them) It's the same for people who do drugs, it makes the pain go away like Anubis keeps saying.

I wouldn't do them personally but then im not in a position where i feel i actually need them. Now, in Britain they are stamping it out slowly but surely as it is now getting to the point where it is universally banned in public places. That's good obviously, for people who don't smoke like Blink. Smokers can do it indoors at their own risk.

If you want to encourage people to quit these things though, i have to stress, telling them it's stupid and a danger to their health will have little to no effect at all. If you really want to help the people then look at thier lives and see if you can help them with any of their issues in that field. Once they're happy again, then you should be able to gently encourage them to give up. How many truly happy smokers/drug takers/heavy drinkers are there in the world? Very few.

My dad used to smoke, and i used to go to great lengths to make himstop with all the health things and hiding his cigarettes. It didnt work though, he just got annoyed. Then he got remarried, found happiness again and gave up in A WEEK. Believe me, he was totally hooked on them, but his new found happiness gave him the strength to quit it.

This also goes for drugs and drinking although they may be harder to kick as a habit, im not sure - i havent known anyone who did drugs or drank heavily well enough to try and help them and thus find out.

I haven't ever tried smoking although i've been tempted - not for peer pressure (none of my friends smoke), but in the hope that it would relieve some of my stress. Thankfully though, i told my g/f and she managed to help me without me having to resort to it.

As a final note and mere point of interest, in the UK, more girls smoke than guys because they think it makes them look sexy. (which may be the thought process that the advert WW mentioned earlier is aiming at). So to echo WildFox, girls, smoking does NOT make you look sexy! It makes you look cheap and easy.

Aaaaaand...im done^^

[Mycarayne]

Nice post. I actually read all of it. =]
All true.

Smoking doesn't make you look cool. It makes you smell bad.
End of story.

[pHantOm]

To RavenBlade: Just because your sad doesnt mean you should harm your body and everyone elses. Why dont you go do something useful or something? If they are depressed about not having a job, perhaps working harder instead of smoking will help. If they dont have a girl friend and are depressed, perhaps if they didnt smoke one would be easier to find. My point is, there is no excuse to smoking. But, you are right about the whole telling them its bad for you etc. And stress is why people smoke for the most part, but in my opinion its a short term fix and creates long term problems.

[Venus dude 21]

so you would rather sit there and be miserable, then try and relive it?
I have a lot of sh*t to deal with in my life every day, parents divorced, sister is a whore basicly so i have to worry about her, grandpa is getting too old to even sit up anymore and he's fallen down about 100 times or so this month. And i find out most of my "friends" hang out with me because they think my sister is hot. All in all, i'll take smoking over this anyday.

[m&m]

i know how it is to have alot of crap going on, i have to deal wth so much, but smoking doesn't seem to help. my dad has been smoking for over forty years and while smoking he had to take pills for his depression and he was so miserable, and now that he only smokes a litte he is so much happier, he says smoking gave him a little releif but it wasn't worth all that money and pain. (he starting to jump off roofs now, but he's happy lol) i can see how its not that bad in little amounts but too much can be stupid and pointless.

[loz]

@RavenBlade

there are those that dont smoke and get rid of stress and stuff, others smoke and kill themselves to relieve stress...why cant they just do what the non-smokers do...whatever that is XDD my dad sleeps when hes stressed >>

[Wild Fox]

To Venus dude 21:
I understand what it's like to go through crap. I've had my share over the past few years with three deaths in the family and an emotianally abusive relationship. But I didn't go out and smoke. If you have problems, don't abuse yourself. Find an outlet for that pain. And I've found that when you've got shiz to deal with, you can make yourself feel better by doing something nice for someone else. For example, (if he's close by) go visit your grandfather. Help him around the house. Just talk to him on the phone. When I was on the verge of cutting myself last year, I went and started TAing for a teacher. They didn't ask for the help, I just did it. And I felt so much better.

I'm not trying to tell you what to do, but seriously think about the consequences of smoking. You only get one body.

[Elliott]

If your life is hard, spending money on something that makes you smell bad, and fills your lungs with tar will not make it better. I'm not saying it doesn't provide temporary stress relief, but at the end of the day, all you are doing is making your life worse by spending your money, ruining your health, and making yourself socially worse off due to the smell, lack of money, and ill health.

Smoking is a lose-lose situation. If you are tempted into smoking due to hard times, do something constructive or productive. Work out, learn a skill, listen to music. Those are things that can relieve stress without wasting money, or damaging your health and social status. There is no excuse for smoking, and if anybody says there is one, then you are very misguided.

[Elliott]

Psicosis, on Jul 18 2005, 11:44 AM, said:

Making cigarettes illegal will do absolutely nothing to stop people from smoking.

Look at cocaine users. The stuff is pricey as all get out, illegal and very health damaging. Despite all these negatives, users will do anything to get their hands on the drug.

Actually making cigarettes illegal would drastically cut the number of smokers I think. It would make it extremely hard for smokers to continue their addiction, and this would in turn lead to may smokers quiting. And comparing it to cocain is a little silly. Cocaine is not used nearly as much as cigarettes, and the effects are quite different.

[Nick Presta]

I have no reason to smoke and tons of reasons not to start.

For one, I compete with national track and field runners for my age group in Canada.
3 years ago I held the number 1 spot for 200m sprint at a time of 25.23 seconds (I was only 13/14). My time now is 24.xx seconds on average with 23.xx being my best. The world record is around 20.xx seconds.

Also, I don't need to be out with my girlfriend smelling like cigarettes and having yellow teeth/etc.

[Elliott]

There are far too many negatives that come with smoking as opposed to the positives (temporary stress relief is the only worthwhile one as far as I can tell). I see anyone who smokes as a weaker person. They would rather spend money on somethin that like I said makes you smell bad and damages your health, than go out and make a go of getting their life on track.

[Mysterious Adept]

well i'm glad i don't smoke, and u shouldn't smoke for the many reasons that were already listed, and plus it just doesn't look good,sure it does for 3 seconds but then it all goes down the drain and that begins the process of throwing away your life

[Venus dude 21]

I know smoking is bad for you, but what isn't these days? They say car exshaust is dangerous, too much sun is dangerous, the yolk of the egg is dangerous, nuclear waste is dangerous, and sex is dangerous. Why just wait there trying to be danger free, and instead end up dying because you got skin cancer. I'll take my risks now, and not suffer from being patient later.

[Wild Fox]

Venus dude 21, on Jul 18 2005, 09:25 AM, said:

Why just wait there trying to be danger free, and instead end up dying because you got skin cancer. I'll take my risks now, and not suffer from being patient later.

True, we all have to go sometime. But you see, I'd prefer going out in some fun and exciting way. Like skydiving, cliffjumping, or having really kinky sex. (scratch that last one) I don't think it would be fun having your lungs melt. And from what I hear, trachiotomies are not fun.

Feeding tiger sharks in Bremuda or choking on a massive logie? You pick. :smile:

[Ravenblade]

Im aware that there are people who have huge problems in life that don't resort to such things. However, my general point was that people who end up doing it for that reason cannot be helped by having people scream that its unhealthy at them. You need to help them with thier lives. If we were more compassionate on the whole, everyone's lives would be much easier.

There's also the fact its addictive, which i was trying to link in but evidentally failed in doing so...if you're unhappy and hooked on something, you arent going to give it up to save your health. The truth is, you probably dont care about your health. You woudnt care if you died cos your life means nothing to you. Ok, people would miss you but they'd get over it. That's the kind of attitude that people who are depressed have. It is NEVER improved by people nagging about thier lifestyle.

That was my point o.o

As a note though, if you replace it with casual sex as a couple of people have suggested, then you'll end up in an even worse place...>.o

[Mallick]

ROFL Who said they didn't wanna die from skin cancer from smoking?

[pHantOm]

Venus dude 21, on Jul 18 2005, 09:25 AM, said:

I know smoking is bad for you, but what isn't these days? They say car exshaust is dangerous, too much sun is dangerous, the yolk of the egg is dangerous, nuclear waste is dangerous, and sex is dangerous. Why just wait there trying to be danger free, and instead end up dying because you got skin cancer. I'll take my risks now, and not suffer from being patient later.

I find this defense to be very ignorant, your basically saying


"well im gonna die anyways, might aswell seal the deal early"

Even if its bad for you, it makes you smell bad and ruins your teeth. You want to look bad and have no one near you on purpose, thats fine with me.

[Golden Djinn13]

Not everyone will have the same oppinion on smoking as another person, so if thats how he feels about it, we cant change him.

[loz]

okay, in 7th grade our bus driver ad a pack of ciggerettes in his pocket and I asked him why he smokes...he said stress, (he had 2 kids that were like 8 years old) i was like and you smoke around them? he was lik yea they dun care, then i just went straight out with it and said but smoking is bad, and he was like so is breathing air, so i wwas like w/e...people make themselves sound stupid when talking about this stuff

[MysticWarrior]

People are fully capable of changing another person's views on topics such as smoking (only they are not supposed to). When I was little, I used to repeat what my teacher said to me during drugs week to my dad, who used to smoke.

He has cancer now, so he quit smoking. =S

[Golden Djinn13]

I mean changing his oppinion on smoking. I know that if you talk to someone about it, then you can change them ( I've had an experience with this), but maybe he could change in the future.

[Izar]

pHantOm, on Jul 22 2005, 03:42 AM, said:

I find this defense to be very ignorant, your basically saying
"well im gonna die anyways, might aswell seal the deal early"

Even if its bad for you, it makes you smell bad and ruins your teeth. You want to look bad and have no one near you on purpose, thats fine with me.

Lol, yeah, I'd rather live longer than waste my life anymore.

Let's see what my mom has from smoking. Emphasema, COPD, Chronic Broncitis, bad breath, bad teeth, yadda, yada, yada. She's on an Oxygen machine, a nebulizer(A medicine fog machine type thingy), and all that bad stuff. And me, I have lung problems from that, second hand smoke. Yuck. I cough alot, but now, it's getting bad.

[Eugine]

*Enters discussion*

I've smoked once and yes ONCE it was just ONE pull because I wanted to "experience pleasure" or so they say.

But it really turned out to be a MESS, I coughed like hell, but lucky NO ONE was home so I wasn't caught. :D.... Yeah, in my class smoking is nasty so I'm happy with it so I don't get any bad infuences.

[Izar]

Ha, yeah, they are nastey little buggers aren't they? My cousin regrets even picking up a cigarette (and a joint). Tore him up bad.

[loz]

go here and see the truth of smoking

http://x402.putfile....20502152976.swf

[Echo_djinn]

I've probably stated enough times that I hate smokers but have you seen a sexy girl smoke before? Your standard for her drops once she takes the first puff in your face. Now if she had enough respect to go smoke outside since we are in the public building then maybe I would have given her a few curtesy points but you know I just hate smokers. Yes, I am recalling what happened to me a few days ago.

P.S: It doesn't matter what they're smoking weed, cigar, dried grapes. In the end they all smell nasty.

[Izar]

LOL, yeah!

Some friend of mine was like that. She was pretty, but she and some other people with her, and it was like a smoke-a-thon.

Plus, too many wrecks here have been caused by either alcohol(mostly), weed, or some other load of crap.

[Venus dude 21]

I know i'm going to regret doing this...but i'll do it anyway.

You can tell me all you want, but i'm not going to stop because 2 million facless people i don't even know come up to me and tell me that smoking is bad. It is, and i know it. But i'm addicted, and honestly don't care. Maybe you should think of wheather or not the smoker wants to hear it. I don't and most people i hang with don't either. We put up with you people, then you act all high and mighty because you don't smoke. Horay for you. If you want a frickin medal for it, i'll give you one to stop Spooning about me smoking!

Sry if i offened anyone with this.

[gsninja]

Nah, it's ok. I never really plan on smoking, but if I ever do, it'd be when I'm much older. Those who succumb to peer pressure are actually pretty weak people. I would never want to try to keep a friend by endangering my own health. If I ever smoke, it would be on my own desicion, not being affected by others.

[Eothain]

here's my views on the issue: I think that most if not all of the people who have posted "smoking is TEH bad for joo" have NEVER smoked a cigarette, and base their opinion only on foreign experiences. Meaning, your dd got lung cancer, your granny died because of it...if i took that approach, then I'd have to say smoking doesn't do crap to you. Most people in my family have smoked since very early in their lives, not one of them is unhealthy, has bad breath, or any of the crap that everyone's posted so far. The ONLY one that has the SLIGHTEST "smoking symptoms" is my granny's sis...she has a VERY SLIGHT teeth "coloring" due to smoking. There ya go, they smoke, and nothing's worng with them. My uncle smokes a LOT...and he's still able to jog for 3 hours every saturday, play tennis with me 1 1/2-2 hrs EVERY DAY, except tuesdays where he takes a 15 mile bike ride to play tennis as part opf a league he's member of. What I'm trying to say is, I HATE the fact that people think smoking=cancer=death. IT IS NOT A FACT. CAN it give you cancer? Yes. CAN it kill you? Yes. DOES it give you cancer and/or any other terminal illness, and later kill you 100% of the time? NO.Now to my next point. I don't think people start smoking because of pop culture...which many people think smoking is part of. I don't think that if you start smoking you're a weakling/ suffering peer pressure/ are depressed/ any other of the shiz anyone's posted. Ok, SOME people who are like that do. But in my opinion, in general, people start cause they CHOOSE to, regardless of any other stuff that's going on. Now, to the marijuana/cigarette issue. People who smoke weed say cigarettes kill joo and are ze bad, and even more ze bad for joo than weed. People who smoke cigarettes say that weed kills your brain cells. My opinion: NEITHER is worse/better than the other. They both have their effects on people, THEY BOTH FORCE UNNECESSARY CO2 INTO YOUR LUNGS. Finally, I could go on all day, I love arguments, but I'll make it brief, so as not to discourage people to read my post. So, to answer to the main topic: Yes, I have smoked, and do smoke, although VERY, VERY rarely. I have never smoked weed (and I know it contradicts something i posted, but I mentioned a FACT instead of an uneducated OPINION about it), and don't plan to.

[Izar]

Foriegn Expiriences huh Eothain? My mom is dieing because of cigarettes, and when she was younger, from weed. And my mom doesn't have the best teeth in the world, she carries oxygen with her everday, daily medication, and the works.

I have smoked before, it made my life a waste.

My mom goes to MHMR, i don't know what it stands for, but it is for people with illnesses in the head. her's came from marijuana and alchohol, using it too much.

My cousin jesse was a pothead, smoked nothing but weed, now he's feeble, and he regrets taking one puff.

[Eothain]

by "foreign" experiences, I mean "not your own", as in "YOU, particularly YOU have not gotten cancer/whatever"...now, don't get me wrong, i'm not saying that "it doesn't count if it didn't happen to you, if it happened to your mom then it doesn't matter"...i know it wouldn't make me happy if my uncle was diagnosed lung cancer one of these days. I do agree that it is not a good thing, and it's sad. Anyways, i don't want to make this too long. Just want to clarify what i meant by "foreign" experiences. Btw, when you say "I have smoked before, it made my life a waste"... that alone separates you from the group i designates as those who "talk based on foreign experiences". And by that you should realize i'm not talking about you. Sorry for the misunderstanding.

[Izar]

That was a confusing post.

Anyways, Smoking DOES give cancer, it doen't matter if it is 100% of the time or 50% of the time. It does. And it's sick taht people do that.

[Neo]

At the LAN party I was for the last 8 days, at least 3/4 for the people there smoked ciggaretes, weed and hash. Well, I can tell you, besides the stench, it does nothing bad to them. Several of them have been smoking weed/hash since they were 11. They are now 19/20. And though they are craaaazy... (they're funny as hell), they haven't been affected by it. Here in the Netherlands weed and hash and shiz is legal... that's also a reason why we are called the "potland" by several foreign people I know.

[Eothain]

Izar, on Aug 6 2005, 09:53 PM, said:

That was a confusing post.

Anyways, Smoking DOES give cancer, it doen't matter if it is 100% of the time or 50% of the time. It does. And it's sick taht people do that.

haha, yeah, i suck at explaining stuff. Anyways, i go back to my point of the difference between "smoking: DOES it kill or CAN it kill"? same goes for cancer. Smoking CAN give you cancer, but not necessarily DOES it give you cancer. Put simply, that you smoke does NOT mean that you WILL get cancer and DIE from smoking. That's what i don't like about most people. They think "you smoke you die", when it's simply not true.

[Izar]

But theres still a chance to it, now isn't there? For the most psrt, you will die from smoking.

[Alex]

No, and I never will. I don't see why you would. It's just plain unhealthy for you and smells horrible.

[Eothain]

haha, i won't bother going into my argument again. It's still the same as it was in all my previous posts.

Izar, on Aug 7 2005, 05:42 PM, said:

But theres still a chance to it, now isn't there?

Yes.

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For the most psrt, you will die from smoking.

NO.
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OMG!! I just went into my argument again!! what have i DONE!!! :(

[Golden Djinn13]

Just a question ( for eothian, because I came in late). Do you smoke or something?

[Unicornmaddy]

Let me tell you all a story...
Once apon a time there was a girl who went to my school. She lives in a pub but that didn't make her a bad girl (well actually it does...). Her stepmum smoked 60 a day and was a horrible person. The girl smoked 1 a fortnight and started when she was 11. One day when she was smoking at school with her friends a boy slipped weed into her ciggerate. And as comical as it sounds she saw dancing trees... However she was found out by her head of year but she didn't know the facts. So the head of year told me to write everything I knew about who was giving the weed etc.. on a piece of paper and give it too her. It didn't feel right to dob on a friend but I did anyway... She hasn't been thrown out of school but her chances are hanging by a thread. About 2 weeks ago my mum drove past the pub the girl lives in and realised that she doesn't live there anymore... The pub was all boarded up and a sign said 'all things of value have been taken...'
I don't know if I'll ever see my friend when we go back to school after the holidays but all my prayers go out to her...
No I won't smoke and I never will
1. I know that if I do smoke I know I wont be able to stop
2. I don't want to be caught up in the wrong crowd... The friends I have accept me for who I am...

[Eugine]

What is a "pub"?

Exactly, my best friends accepts me eventhough I don't smoke. I guess this is because we all don't smoke either.

[Eothain]

Golden Djinn13, on Aug 9 2005, 08:53 PM, said:

Just a question ( for eothian, because I came in late). Do you smoke or something?

NO. I have smoked exactly 7 cigarettes in the span of my life till this point, and haven't done in a LONG time. If you're asking because I sound like I "defend" smoking, or "support it", then my other posts say enough of why i don't OPPOSE smoking. But don't get me wrong, i don't support smoking. It's just that I don't oppose it.

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1. I know that if I do smoke I know I wont be able to stop

HOW do you know? :blink: People ARE able to quit, but most of them are just too weak to be able to accomplish it.

[Izar]

Eothain, on Aug 9 2005, 08:24 PM, said:

haha, i won't bother going into my argument again. It's still the same as it was in all my previous posts.
Yes.

NO.
:blink:
OMG!! I just went into my argument again!! what have i DONE!!! :ph34r:

There's around an 80% chance you will get cancer and die from it. that's the majority.

My mom's been smoking since she was 13, and couldn't stop. Ever.

[Golden Legacy]

I have never smoked, nor do I ever plan to.

What I do not understand is how smoking is appealing; and the answer is NOT peer pressure. Why? Simply because I am now going to ask, what makes it "so cool"?

As in, the prospect of inhaling smoke into your lungs... how can it ever even be supported by the fact that "everybody" does it? How did it actually begin?

Whatever the reason, it is another example of society's flaws.

[Eothain]

Izar, on Aug 12 2005, 04:31 PM, said:

There's around an 80% chance you will get cancer and die from it. that's the majority.

My mom's been smoking since she was 13, and couldn't stop. Ever.

then I guess that my whole family falls under the 20% that hasn't gotten cancer from it, nor any other health problem, and has not died from it either?.

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Simply because I am now going to ask, what makes it "so cool"?

ok, THAT is something I think people have misinterpreted. And no ofence to you GL. There ARE people who smoke because their friends do. But i'd believe it's the minority, which is made up of mainly teenagers. Teenagers start smoking because of peer pressure, or cause they think it's cool. With that said, I do not think so many people smoke just "cause it's teh shiz"...people smoke because they enjoy smoking. And also because it's addicting. But the great majority of people do not smoke cause "it's cool". They simply like to smoke. Do you think adults, who have many responsibilities, would even care about trends and what's "cool"? and please don't bring up exceptions. Meaning "oh, but my friend's mom blahblah"...the number of adults who are that immature is nothing compared to the number of "normal" adults.

[Unicornmaddy]

Eugine, on Aug 12 2005, 04:59 PM, said:

What is a "pub"?

Sorry it's what we English call 'a place where you get beer and stuff...' I don't what the people in the West Indies call it but it's obiviously something different...
Sorry didn't mean to go off topic...

[Eothain]

Unicornmaddy, on Aug 13 2005, 12:15 PM, said:

Sorry it's what we English call 'a place where you get beer and stuff...' I don't what the people in the West Indies call it but it's obiviously something different...

nope...as far as I know it's called "pub" here too. Even in spanish-speaking countries, like Argentina. The word "pub" has its origins in the English language, and that's how peopl use it.

[Eugine]

Well as far as I know, that's the first time I ever hear that word... I know it as a licquor store or something.

[Izar]

Eothain, on Aug 13 2005, 08:03 AM, said:

then I guess that my whole family falls under the 20% that hasn't gotten cancer from it, nor any other health problem, and has not died from it either?.
ok, THAT is something I think people have misinterpreted. And no ofence to you GL. There ARE people who smoke because their friends do. But i'd believe it's the minority, which is made up of mainly teenagers. Teenagers start smoking because of peer pressure, or cause they think it's cool. With that said, I do not think so many people smoke just "cause it's teh shiz"...people smoke because they enjoy smoking. And also because it's addicting. But the great majority of people do not smoke cause "it's cool". They simply like to smoke. Do you think adults, who have many responsibilities, would even care about trends and what's "cool"? and please don't bring up exceptions. Meaning "oh, but my friend's mom blahblah"...the number of adults who are that immature is nothing compared to the number of "normal" adults.

Yeah, I guess your family does fall under that. My entire family DOESN'T smoke, but every smoker I know has either COPD, cancer, or emphesema. And yes, YOU CAN DIE FROM IT, and YES, THE MAJORITY DO, IT IS PROVEN. :P And here's something, WebMD even says that smoking DOES cause cancer and such.

[Eothain]

Izar, on Aug 13 2005, 07:40 PM, said:

Yeah, I guess your family does fall under that. My entire family DOESN'T smoke, but every smoker I know has either COPD, cancer, or emphesema. And yes, YOU CAN DIE FROM IT, and YES, THE MAJORITY DO, IT IS PROVEN. :P And here's something, WebMD even says that smoking DOES cause cancer and such.

so, you're basically repeating what i said...I said that you CAN die from it. And people DO die form it, just not ALL of them. And you CAN get cancer from smoking. Smoking DOES give cancer, just not EVERYONE who smokes gets it. And the fact that "it's proven that the majority die from it" supports my point even further. The MAJORITY. MAJORITY =/=ALL/100%. I say that it supports my point even further cause pretty much everyone's been saying "YOU SMOKE, YOU GET CANCER, YOU DIE", as if it was a 100% true scenario, meaning, that it simply WILL happen if a person smokes. And i could care less about what friggin WebMD says, how do you explain that nobody in my family has ever gotten cancer from smoking or any other source?

[Eugine]

Well, my father smoked since I knew him. He stopped smoking this year since the doctor told him if he continue he'll die.

He then too sick leave from his work, just to come home and watch news all day! :P ... Now I can't enjoy my shows cause there's no cable and good games to play in my room.

[Eothain]

Eugine, on Aug 13 2005, 08:30 PM, said:

... Now I can't enjoy my shows cause there's no cable and good games to play in my room.

no cable?...so...how does your dad watch the news? are any of those air channels?

[Eugine]

Didn't explain myself enough.

We have a TVs in all of our personal rooms and the living room. The living room is the only place which has cable, and my dad always occupies it. So I can't watch good shows in my room because there is no cable. See, he's a fire fighter, so he usually sleeps down on work and all.

[Eothain]

Eugine, on Aug 13 2005, 08:40 PM, said:

See, he's a fire fighter, so he usually sleeps down on work and all.

XD that was a good one. So, he's a fire fighter...has he had any fires that were started by cigarettes? so all you smoker-haters can go at it a bit more...

[Eugine]

Really, I'm not kidding if you think I am!

No fires started in my house yet, don't want it to happen either.

Finally, I'm not a smoker hater, if I was I'd have alot of enemies now.

[Eothain]

haha, i wasn't saying you're a smoker hater...but most people in this thread are. And the question about cigarette-originated fires was serious, cause "it DOES happen" blahblah...i just wanted to be able to see some of these guys come up with stuff like "see?SEE? that's teh other reezn why joo shoodnt ze smoke"

[Izar]

Eothain, on Aug 13 2005, 08:23 PM, said:

so, you're basically repeating what i said...I said that you CAN die from it. And people DO die form it, just not ALL of them. And you CAN get cancer from smoking. Smoking DOES give cancer, just not EVERYONE who smokes gets it. And the fact that "it's proven that the majority die from it" supports my point even further. The MAJORITY. MAJORITY =/=ALL/100%. I say that it supports my point even further cause pretty much everyone's been saying "YOU SMOKE, YOU GET CANCER, YOU DIE", as if it was a 100% true scenario, meaning, that it simply WILL happen if a person smokes. And i could care less about what friggin WebMD says, how do you explain that nobody in my family has ever gotten cancer from smoking or any other source?

Majority means more than the other part, not 100%. I can't explain. Why? Because I'm not even sure if your whole family smokes.

[Eugine]

Well, I'm the first to not know what pub means then :P

I'm not saying I wouldn't smoke when I'm older. I will deffinetly try not to though.

[Eothain]

Eugine, on Aug 14 2005, 06:31 AM, said:

I'm not saying I wouldn't smoke when I'm older. I will deffinetly try not to though.

THAT'S the spirit. I'm actually happy to see someone say that. I just hate...well...haters... that statement does not disregard the possibility that you might change your mind and actually start smoking, while still showing concern for your health. People change, and most of all these 13-15 year-olds that are bashing smoking will end up smoking themselves. Trust me, all of you who say your parents smoke 1289731289738912 cigarettes a day...your parents did the same thing you do when they were younger. "OMG!! ZE SMOKING IS TEH BAD FOR JOO!!! i will NEVA, eva, EVA touch ze nasty, nasty cigarette"...and look at them today...what I'm saying is, people change, and all of the younger ones in these boards will most probably change their minds too. I'm not saying i'm so mature, nor am i saying i'm that much older than everyone else, but i've already been thru this particular issue, experienced it, "changed", and know whether it's good or bad for me.

[cyberRoll]

My mom smokes and every time she sees a dont smoke commercial she calls me and say s dont smoke if you do i'll kill ya in a scary yet funny voice.

[Neo]

I don't see why people can make a big fuzz about it. If someone wants to smoke, let him smoke. It's their own lives they're waisting. And second; from all people that I know who smoke (Those are alot, also very old people), none of them has ever gotten a decease from it.

To reply on a post from some pages before, about smoking being "cool" and all;
I think about 35% of the people smoke because they want to be cool, or because of their friends do it. About 60% does it because they don't care about it or can't stop. and then the last 5% are the people who really like the taste or smell.

[Eothain]

cyberRoll, on Sep 2 2005, 11:46 AM, said:

My mom smokes and every time she sees a dont smoke commercial she calls me and say s dont smoke if you do i'll kill ya in a scary yet funny voice.

does she say "i'm god cause i smoke and i'm not dead yet!' too? way to represent the idea..."don't smoke, it'll kill ya"...but she can't add the part that says "look at me... see how bad smoking can kill ya?"