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New Super Smash Bros.!? Camelot characters?

Poll: Which character would you say would be most suited as a super smash bros. character?

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#1   Kwesi 

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    Posted 09 August 2005 - 06:23 PM

    I chose felix he's my favorite. It would be cool if they did a camelot thing like Felix and Issac, like they did roy and marth

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      Posted 09 August 2005 - 06:34 PM

      It would either be Felix or Isaac, I voted for Isaac. I think Felix will look too mature, Isaac on the other hand will fit in perfectly fine :).

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        Posted 09 August 2005 - 09:18 PM

        It should be both, Issac and Felix, but I voted Issac.

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          Posted 09 August 2005 - 09:30 PM

          Felix could be the clone character for Isaac.
          I think < > + B should be Ragnarok. Imagine him glow for a second then swing his sword and a bigger sword shoot out from it.

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            Posted 10 August 2005 - 06:18 AM

            That is true Eugine, Felix would look to mature. and Issacs hair is just right for the part.

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              Posted 10 August 2005 - 07:58 AM

              They should add a “bad guy“ such as Saturos just as they did with Bowser, Ganondorf, Mewtwo...
              Don'tcha think?

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                Posted 10 August 2005 - 08:25 AM

                Defnitly Issac. Mainly because he was the main dud efor GS1. Make the double(clone) character Felix, cuz he's the dude who stars in GS2.

                If not, add Saturos, he fits the bad dude persona.

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                  Posted 10 August 2005 - 08:50 AM

                  That be really cool if there actually was a new ssbm released on the basis of gs. I'd by that in a second.

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                    Posted 10 August 2005 - 09:16 AM

                    *thinks up controls for Isaac* how about Side + B is Ragnarok/Oddyssey, Up + B is Flint Unleash, Down + B is Summon Judgement. Felix can have Echo for a djinn and use Odyssey instead of Ragnarok as well as use a different summon but have the same effect.

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                      Posted 10 August 2005 - 09:20 AM

                      The Flint unleash is OK, but summoning Judgement... How will that work out?

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                        Posted 10 August 2005 - 09:21 AM

                        THey would have to have a recovery move for felix and issac as up + B. if flint propels u upwards when u use it then thats ok otherwise you would need a different move set.

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                          Posted 10 August 2005 - 09:48 AM

                          Judgement blasts close enemies that are locked in Mele combat, sort of a knock-back move to escape the fighting and gain control.

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                            Posted 10 August 2005 - 09:50 AM

                            Mars Djinni, on Aug 10 2005, 01:18 PM, said:

                            Judgement blasts close enemies that are locked in Mele combat, sort of a knock-back move to escape the fighting and gain control.

                            Cool nice idea. I wonder if we can actually get it to be made into the new ssbm.

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                              Posted 10 August 2005 - 10:08 AM

                              I doubt it, though. Golden Sun's been out a long time and I don't think it's gonna be a recognisable game anymore unless Camelot releases GS3.

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                                Posted 10 August 2005 - 10:09 AM

                                Well that sucks it would be mad cool for GS made GS3 and it get tied into smash bros. But for now we can only dream.

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                                  Posted 10 August 2005 - 01:11 PM

                                  Of course I don't think it'll happen, but I do think I'd be cool. It's a nice thought at least.

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                                    Posted 10 August 2005 - 01:13 PM

                                    I wish they could, or they can at least make a GS charecter trophy

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                                      Posted 10 August 2005 - 01:19 PM

                                      Golden Sun wasn't that popular in Japan and you know that's where SSBM is made, so I highly doubt it will happen.

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                                        Posted 10 August 2005 - 05:06 PM

                                        DARN!!! That would be the hottest game in the universe. Maybe if nintendo plans it out well.

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                                          Posted 14 August 2005 - 01:50 AM

                                          Heh, don't expect they ever will make GS characters in the new SSB.
                                          I am looking forward to the game but I think GS characters would screw the whole game. I prefer Diddy Kong and Wario in the new SSB.
                                          BUT, SSB has Wi-Fi download thingies. Maybe you can download whole new characters for the game. And perhaps that will be either Felix or Isaac but I don't really think that will happen.

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                                            Posted 15 August 2005 - 06:47 PM

                                            Gs would never make t to a Super Smash brothers game... Unless, a GS3 type game came out and made huge sales, but again, it's very doubtful. But Still, it'd be nice to see Issac on there.

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                                              Posted 16 August 2005 - 11:04 AM

                                              Since our old SSBM topic is almost dead, lets start about talking about the new one in this topic. As you all know the new SSB has Wi-Fi connection which lets you fight other people around the world. Seems nice I think. If Nintendo is smart they should add other things with the Wi-Fi things. Like downloading new characters, items and stages, if they do they never need to make a new SSB game. Think about how funny that will be, your fighting with your character versus a Japanese kid who has whole other characters which you never saw in the game. You face a whole new enemy then which was exciting in SSB and in SSBM to.

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                                                Posted 16 August 2005 - 07:56 PM

                                                I would enjoy having Golden Sun characters in the next Super Smash Brothers, but let us be realistic; I do not think, however successful the Golden Sun games may be, that they are recognized as "true" Nintendo icons. Then again, one could argue the same about other characters that appeared in Melee, for the GameCube, but regardless.

                                                You also must keep in mind that the characters must all be balanced; there should be little to no use of elemental magic, as that would make them, presumably, stronger or easier to use than most other characters. The same applies to summons.

                                                However, I feel that including Isaac and perhaps also Felix would be fine. Also [and I think this is more realistic], perhaps Nintendo might include an arena based on Golden Sun! Imagine, if you will, the Venus or Mars Lighthouse Aerie... perhaps with the Doom Dragon in the background, or Saturos and Menardi in the Venus aerie and they then fuse...

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                                                  Posted 16 August 2005 - 08:08 PM

                                                  Maybe just trophies of the 8 party members would do.

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                                                    Posted 17 August 2005 - 01:35 AM

                                                    Trophies from GS characters is good. But I doubt the new SSB uses trophies this time.

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                                                      Posted 17 August 2005 - 10:55 AM

                                                      I bet i can fly to japan and get nintendo to make a ssbm. CAuse i am cool like that.

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                                                        Posted 21 August 2005 - 04:08 PM

                                                        if any gs charecters were to be put int othe super smash bros. series it would be felix and/or isaac. they are the 2 most popular charecters. they might add others. i could be wrong...

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                                                          Posted 22 August 2005 - 06:00 AM

                                                          While you're at it, pass by Camelot and convince them to make a new GS :)

                                                          Yes it would be Felix or Isaac, they always put the main characters in the game anyways.

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Discovery]<br /><br />'...Behind my beloved waterfall, in the little room that was hidden beneath the cave, I <br />found it. I brushed away the dust of the years, and picked it up, holding it reverently in <br />my hands. I had no idea what it might be, but it was beautiful...'<br /><br />'...I learned to lay my fingers across the wires, and to turn the keys to make them sound <br />differently. As I struck the wires with my other hand, I produced my first harmonious sounds <br />and soon my own music! How different it could be from the music of the Temples! I can't wait <br />to tell the priests about it!...'<br /><br />What can this strange device be?<br />When I touch it, it gives forth a sound<br />It's got wires that vibrate and give music<br />What can this thing be that I found?<br /><br />See how it sings like a sad heart<br />And joyously screams out its pain<br />Sounds that build high like a mountain<br />Or notes that fall gently like rain<br /><br />I can't wait to share this new wonder<br />The people will all see its light<br />Let them all make their own music<br />The Priests praise my name on this night<br /><br />[IV. Presentation]<br /><br />'...In the sudden silence as I finished playing, I looked up to a circle of grim, <br />expressionless faces. Father Brown rose to his feet, and his somnolent voice echoed <br />throughout the silent Temple Hall...'<br /><br />'...Instead of the grateful joy that I expected, they were words of quiet rejection! <br />Instead of praise, sullen dismissal. I watched in shock and horror as Father Brown ground <br />my precious instrument to splinters beneath his feet...'<br /><br />I know it's most unusual<br />To come before you so<br />But I've found an ancient miracle<br />I thought that you should know<br />Listen to my music<br />And hear what it can do<br />There's something here as strong as life<br />I know that it will reach you<br /><br />Yes, we know, it's nothing new<br />It's just a waste of time<br />We have no need for ancient ways<br />The world is doing fine<br />Another toy will help destroy<br />The elder race of man<br />Forget about your silly whim<br />It doesn't fit the plan<br /><br />I can't believe you're saying<br />These things just can't be true<br />Our world could use this beauty<br />Just think what we might do<br />Listen to my music<br />And hear what it can do<br />There's something here as strong as life<br />I know that it will reach you<br /><br />Don't annoy us further!<br />We have our work to do<br />Just think about the average<br />What use have they for you?<br />Another toy will help destroy<br />The elder race of man<br />Forget about your silly whim<br />It doesn't fit the Plan!<br /><br />[V. 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I saw now how meaningless life had become with the loss of <br />all these things...'<br /><br />I wandered home though the silent streets<br />And fell into a fitful sleep<br />Escape to realms beyond the night<br />Dream can't you show me the light?<br /><br />I stand atop a spiral stair<br />An oracle confronts me there<br />He leads me on light years away<br />Through astral nights, galactic days<br />I see the works of gifted hands<br />That grace this strange and wondrous land<br />I see the hand of man arise<br />With hungry mind and open eyes<br /><br />They left the planet long ago<br />The elder race still learn and grow<br />Their power grows with purpose strong<br />To claim the home where they belong<br />Home to tear the Temples down...<br />Home to change!<br /><br />[VI. Soliloquy]<br /><br />'...I have not left this cave for days now, it has become my last refuge in my total <br />despair. I have only the music of the waterfall to comfort me now. I can no longer live <br />under the control of the Federation, but there is no other place to go. My last hope is <br />that with my death I may pass into the world of my dream, and know peace at last.'<br /><br />The sleep is still in my eyes<br />The dream is still in my head<br />I heave a sigh and sadly smile<br />And lie a while in bed<br />I wish that it might come to pass<br />Not fade like all my dreams...<br /><br />Just think of what my life might be<br />In a world like I have seen!<br />I don't think I can carry on<br />Carry on this cold and empty life<br /><br />My spirits are low in the depths of despair<br />My lifeblood...<br />...Spills over...<br /><br />[VII. The Grand Finale]<br /><br />Attention all Planets of the Solar Federation<br />Attention all Planets of the Solar Federation<br />Attention all Planets of the Solar Federation<br />We have assumed control<br />We have assumed control<br />We have assumed control<br /><br />Whole Lotta Love <br />(Bonham/Jones/Page/Plant) <br /><br />You need coolin', baby, I'm not foolin', <br />I'm gonna send you back to schoolin', <br />Way down inside honey, you need it, <br />I'm gonna give you my love, <br />I'm gonna give you my love. <br /><br />*Wanna Whole Lotta Love (X4) <br /><br />You've been learnin', baby, I bean learnin', <br />All them good times, baby, baby, I've been yearnin', <br />Way, way down inside honey, you need it, <br />I'm gonna give you my love... I'm gonna give you my love. <br /><br />* Chorus <br /><br />You've been coolin', baby, I've been droolin', <br />All the good times I've been misusin', <br />Way, way down inside, I'm gonna give you my love, <br />I'm gonna give you every inch of my love, <br />Gonna give you my love. <br /><br />* Chorus <br /><br />Way down inside... woman... You need... love. <br /><br />Shake for me, girl. I wanna be your backdoor man. <br />Keep it coolin', baby. <br /><br />Black Dog <br />(Jones/Page/Plant) <br /><br />Hey, hey, mama, said the way you move, gonna make you sweat, gonna make you groove. <br />Oh, oh, child, way you shake that thing, gonna make you burn, gonna make you sting. <br />Hey, hey, baby, when you walk that way, watch your honey drip, can't keep away. <br /><br />*Ah yeah, ah yeah, ah, ah, ah. 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We are your overlords. <br /><br />On we sweep with threshing oar, Our only goal will be the western shore. <br /><br />So now you'd better stop and rebuild all your ruins, <br />For peace and trust can win the day despite of all your losing.

                                                            Posted 22 August 2005 - 11:34 AM

                                                            Eugine, on Aug 22 2005, 05:00 AM, said:

                                                            While you're at it, pass by Camelot and convince them to make a new GS :)

                                                            Yes it would be Felix or Isaac, they always put the main characters in the game anyways.


                                                            except for the fire emblem charecters i dont see why they didn't put in lyn.

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                                                              Posted 22 August 2005 - 03:45 PM

                                                              Isaac that is because SSB:M was created before Fire Emblem: Reka No Ken (The first English FE). Also, Roy (FE6) and Marth (I think the first FE... one of those Japanese ones) are main characters in Fire Emblem.

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                                                                Posted 22 August 2005 - 03:52 PM

                                                                If they could put in any FE charecters, I would prefer Kent and Sain.

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                                                                  Posted 22 August 2005 - 06:38 PM

                                                                  Wouldn't fare well on horses, though. More like Ephraim and Eirika.

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                                                                    Posted 23 August 2005 - 08:19 AM

                                                                    isaac2112, on Aug 22 2005, 07:34 PM, said:

                                                                    except for the fire emblem charecters i dont see why they didn't put in lyn.


                                                                    I don't see why they DID put in Fire Emblem characters.
                                                                    I mean, come on. Who did knew about Fire Emblem before SSBM?
                                                                    And I don't want anybody say: In Japan they do. Because I know.
                                                                    Marth is okay, main character in the first FE. Roy... No! Well if they made a new FE with Roy in the main role I would say okay.
                                                                    SSBR needs more clasic Mario characters like Wario, Toad (but I dunno what the hell he CAN do...), Birdo, Diddy Kong (-_-), Waluigi, Daisy and others.

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                                                                      Posted 23 August 2005 - 09:40 AM

                                                                      DiddyKong, on Aug 23 2005, 03:19 PM, said:

                                                                      SSBR needs more clasic Mario characters like Wario, Toad (but I dunno what the hell he CAN do...), Birdo, Diddy Kong (-_-), Waluigi, Daisy and others.


                                                                      I wouldn't put Birdo in. She seems like a mistake of nature :) . The rest of those characters would be good though.

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                                                                        Posted 23 August 2005 - 09:50 AM

                                                                        Roy is a main character in Fire Emblem 6. He's Eliwood son the main character of Fire Emblem 7... They only use main characters as far as I can see.

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                                                                          Posted 23 August 2005 - 10:01 AM

                                                                          We have enough FE characters in the game. Maybe one more wouldn't hurt. Now if there will be some GS characters implemented into the new SSBM I would put Alex and Isaac into the game. Maybe Isaac and Agatio since Agatio could have similar powers to C.Falcon.

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                                                                            Posted 23 August 2005 - 10:39 AM

                                                                            But really, I don't think we'd want another Captain Falcon clone. -_-

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                                                                              Posted 23 August 2005 - 10:41 AM

                                                                              They put character they expect people will like. (Well, except Mr. Game and Watch -_-)

                                                                              We wouldn't be seeing Agatio IMO in that game if they had to put a GS character. It would either be Issac, Felix or Alex.

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                                                                                Posted 23 August 2005 - 10:44 AM

                                                                                Alex definately. Wasn't he voted in Golden Sun's year Best Villain? If he was, he'll have an awesome reputation in SSBR. -_-

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                                                                                  Posted 24 August 2005 - 03:01 AM

                                                                                  I just had a thought. They could put paper mario in and makes his main weapon his hammer. What do you think? Good idea or bad idea?

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                                                                                    Posted 27 August 2005 - 01:51 AM

                                                                                    Yup good idea, but very unoriginal.
                                                                                    Many people have suggested that before. :P

                                                                                    And I don't think Alex would be to good in SSBM...
                                                                                    Nintendo would end up making him a Mewtwo clone or something...


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