[Unicornmaddy]

Over in England I've seen some pictures of the damage on the news. My thoughts go out to everyone who lost their homes or (god forbid) loved ones. Any comments or any people affected please post here.
If there's already a topic please close and if it's in the wrong place please move.

[Eugine]

Hurricane Katrina didn't affect my country thank God, we already had two hurricanes in one year and it was the worst experience in the world. I feel so bad for all the people who experienced it also cause I know how it feels...

It feels terrible.

[Unicornmaddy]

I think I should be thankful that I live in a country that doesn't have volcanoes, earthquakes and hurricanes. The wierd thing is that without these qirkes the world would be a very boring place... :P

[Mallick]

Lawrence and Tobias had to evacuate their gome due to Katrina. They have to stay in Texas with some relatives. Apparently their home should be okay though. It didn't effect their part of the state too bad.

[Izar]

I live in Texas. :P

My cousins left for florida, They kinda lived there before, and are probably going to my Aunt's house.

Katrine hasn't hit Texas, a very little set of storms from the hurrican has, but other than that, it's not a big deal here.

[Eugine]

It killed around 10 people in Florida. Last time I remember it was heading for New Orleans. I just hope no more are destructive for the year.

[Izar]

9 people died in florida, but it wasn't really the hurricane, they died from dehydration, they were elderly people going to church to get protected from the winds.

Katrina is almost passed New Orleans, and it's the most destructive hurrican since like... the 1950's.

[Mars Djinni]

I actually only figured out that Katrina had mingled with Lawrence and Tobias when I heard Hurricane Katrina hit Louisiana in a re-cap of the News at around 6:00 yesterday.

[Eothain]

Actually, 4 people died in the Miami area alone, 3 because trees fell on them (literally, i'm not kidding, it was on the news), and 1 was in a car crash: it was so windy and rainy, a guy lost control of his car, and hit a tree...might sound stupid, but proved fatal for this unfortunate fellow. Anyways, Florida was lucky the storm only hit as a category 1 hurricane...i feel sorry for the ppl at new orleans (i think that's where the storm hit pretty hard), who are now having the category 5 hurricane. I was lucky i didn't have to go to school because of the storm. :P

[Eugine]

Well, hurricanes aren't a laughing matter, it really does get nasty when you experience it.

As for those people who died, why where they outside in the first place, they knew a hurricane was coming.

[Eothain]

i know it wasn't funny, but hey, it really is their fault, that's why i SEEM to paint the picture humorously..."if you keep knockin on the Devil's door, someone's gonna answer you"...basically meaning, they were FARILY foolish to be walking outside with 70+ mph winds...

[Eugine]

Yeah I know. Its really devious, the way the wind sounds make it feel so scary. I think they were scared and left their homes for better shelter.

[Nobody]

Eothain, on Aug 29 2005, 08:36 PM, said:

Actually, 4 people died in the Miami area alone, 3 because trees fell on them (literally, i'm not kidding, it was on the news), and 1 was in a car crash: it was so windy and rainy, a guy lost control of his car, and hit a tree...might sound stupid, but proved fatal for this unfortunate fellow. Anyways, Florida was lucky the storm only hit as a category 1 hurricane...i feel sorry for the ppl at new orleans (i think that's where the storm hit pretty hard), who are now having the category 5 hurricane. I was lucky i didn't have to go to school because of the storm. :)

That would be me :P
The storm is now a Tropical Storm. I hope my home survived it, I'm in Texas right now (like PDM said). Luckily, I live on the western side of the New Orleans Metro Area, so my house may not be hit as hard as I'm thinking.
But still, in places like Gulfport, they have to use boats to travel over some of the severely-flooded roads. Now THAT is bad!

[Eugine]

Thank God you're OK, I wouldn't want any message on this forum popping up saying that someone from this forum had died.

[Isaac13]

When was this hurricane? When did it occur?

[Nobody]

Holy....crap.

I turned on the news, and it's showing areas of destruction in New Orleans.
I swear, most of the places I recognized were totally destroyed; all I saw was rubble and floodwaters.
This is bad, and I'm pretty sure you guys agree.

[Eugine]

I just read some news on it. 50 people have already died because of it. It's so terrible, I feel the pain of everyone who suffered losses. I just hope nothing major happens to any country for the rest of the year. I can't say forever because Hurricanes are unstoppable.

[Unicornmaddy]

Isaac13, on Aug 30 2005, 03:04 AM, said:

When was this hurricane? When did it occur?

Don't you watch the news it happened yesterday and it was posted everywhere. By the way it was downgraded from cat. 5 to 3 but the winds reached 150 mph.

Nobody, on Aug 30 2005, 03:06 AM, said:

Holy....crap.

I turned on the news, and it's showing areas of destruction in New Orleans.
I swear, most of the places I recognized were totally destroyed; all I saw was rubble and floodwaters.
This is bad, and I'm pretty sure you guys agree.

I know I was really scared when I saw it. I'm thankful that my relative's live in Canada.

[Neon]

Crap. Nobody, Is your house alright? O.o

[Crimson Barrel Knight]

My ex girlfriend in Florida got into a car accident just recently during the storm. She was pretty descriptive about it, including the part when her sister was in the back seat without a seat belt on, and she hardly even got a scratch. >_>

But yeah, I heard the storm was absolutely wicked. Not much really withstood it. During 1st period this morning, the whole atmosphere outside was dark and damp; people started believing it was Katrina. Though, now it's light and dry, so we don't have to worry much about it now.

I also know of a couple people down in Louisana, and I haven't heard about their current status yet. I just hope they're alive.

[TheEnglishman]

Clearly since I don't live in America it's hard for me to know exactly what the situation is like over there. But they showed areas with huge flooding and I was so shocked at how much water there was.

[Echo_djinn]

I heard it barely touched New Orleans and landed right on Mississippi. Anyways, I don't understand why people live in areas where natural disaters are fequently happen. They put themselves at risk.

[Golden Djinn13]

It doesn't make much sense to me either.

[Eugine]

Its simple, they grew up in that place. You think people in Japan would go just because they get hurricanes once every year or even more regular? They grow up there, they get accustom to it, its like a yearly routiene.

[TobiasMar]

Eugine, on Aug 29 2005, 08:50 PM, said:

Yeah I know. Its really devious, the way the wind sounds make it feel so scary. I think they were scared and left their homes for better shelter.

And, I did hear that in New Orleans, the Superdome, which was a giant football stadium, was transformed into a shelter for people who tried to ride out Katrina.

[Izar]

Eothain, on Aug 29 2005, 08:36 PM, said:

Actually, 4 people died in the Miami area alone, 3 because trees fell on them (literally, i'm not kidding, it was on the news), and 1 was in a car crash: it was so windy and rainy, a guy lost control of his car, and hit a tree...might sound stupid, but proved fatal for this unfortunate fellow. Anyways, Florida was lucky the storm only hit as a category 1 hurricane...i feel sorry for the ppl at new orleans (i think that's where the storm hit pretty hard), who are now having the category 5 hurricane. I was lucky i didn't have to go to school because of the storm. :P

I heard from the news it was 9 from dehydration.

My cousins went up north instead of in Florida I believe. Wonder where they goin...

[Eugine]

Oh my, did any of you view screenshots on Hurricane Katrina? They have confirmed that over 100 people have died in mississippi. The cities there are nearly destroyed. I almost cried when I saw those screenshots. The White House said it might be the worst natural disaster in US history.

[Golden Djinn13]

Eugine, on Aug 30 2005, 11:30 PM, said:

Oh my, did any of you view screenshots on Hurricane Katrina? They have confirmed that over 100 people have died in mississippi. The cities there are nearly destroyed. I almost cried when I saw those screenshots. The White House said it might be the worst natural disaster in US history.

Its horrible. I saw screenshots from comcast.

[TheEnglishman]

I read in the paper that people died in the Superdome ( where people were sheltering). It said that one person jumped off it but I don't know if that's true. It sounds made up.
I'm just glad nothing bad happens where I live.

[Eugine]

The um.. Mayor? of New Orleans said everyone has to leave the city, tall arse buildings were flooded. Worse thing I seen after the tsunami in Asia.

[Unicornmaddy]

I heard on the radio that dead sharks and alligators were in the water. And all the alive ones were waiting near people's cars until they died. Yeah the Old New Orleans bit was flooded very badly however they got off very easily compared to the rest like Mississippi. I also heard that over 100 people died in the hurricane so far and it's going to rise and the flooding is still to get worse. I was really horrified when I saw the pictures of the damage on the news.

[Eothain]

wow...checking the new yesterday i found out that the number of flooded homes has reached 85,000. That's sad. Also, Katrina has now officially surpassed Andrew as far as damage goes. Costs-wise, at least.

[Izar]

Katrina beat Andrew way back. They knew it would.

And total deaths in Alabama went more than 80. Luisiana is rising in death counts, and they gotta go back to school between november and december, with no breaks through the school year.

[Mars Djinni]

I don't know it it's been already said, but last night, I looked on the news and it said that the flooded homes in Louisiana have flooded more than 7 meters deep.

[Eothain]

it's not far from it. I heard 20 feet, which is just about 7 meters. 21 feet would be 7 meters, but heck, 20's close enough. Anyways, those 100+ deaths in the New Orleans area will definitely increase, in my opinion, once the water level goes down. When that happens, they'll definitely find the bodies of those who somehow got trapped somewhere and couldn't make it to safety.

[Golden Djinn13]

Eothain, on Aug 31 2005, 10:03 PM, said:

it's not far from it. I heard 20 feet, which is just about 7 meters. 21 feet would be 7 meters, but heck, 20's close enough. Anyways, those 100+ deaths in the New Orleans area will definitely increase, in my opinion, once the water level goes down. When that happens, they'll definitely find the bodies of those who somehow got trapped somewhere and couldn't make it to safety.

I hope they dont find anymore people.

[Eugine]

They will. Its now the worst natural disaster in US history.

You know, I'm sick of those people there who make recovering a hassle, I listened on news that some people were shooting at a people who were giving aid. Such fools really.

[TheEnglishman]

I read in the paper today that a gang of looters tried to get into a childrens hospital to steal drugs.
I thought that was just sick.

[Unicornmaddy]

A newspaper front said that the death toll will be at least 1000. It's probably an axgeration but you never know. Yeah I know it's sick AND stupid.

[Golden Djinn13]

Eugine, on Sep 1 2005, 06:52 AM, said:

They will. Its now the worst natural disaster in US history.

You know, I'm sick of those people there who make recovering a hassle, I listened on news that some people were shooting at a people who were giving aid. Such fools really.

I just heard about that too, and Now Gas prices are getting worse for everyone. In Georgia, its the worst. It has reached 6 dollars there.

[Eothain]

Golden Djinn13, on Sep 1 2005, 10:31 AM, said:

I just heard about that too, and Now Gas prices are getting worse for everyone. In Georgia, its the worst. It has reached 6 dollars there.

and they will keep rising, no doubt about it. Anyways, all those shootings you guys have heard of, are probably the following: they are not shooting people who give aid (as far as I know). They are shooting the media/news channels helicopters, that get really close, but refuse to help anyone. That's why they're shooting. News reporters coming down just to do their shiz and not helping anyone. And that pissed off the people in the Dome.

[Golden Djinn13]

Eothain, on Sep 1 2005, 04:00 PM, said:

and they will keep rising, no doubt about it.  Anyways, all those shootings you guys have heard of, are probably the following: they are not shooting people who give aid (as far as I know). They are shooting the media/news channels helicopters, that get really close, but refuse to help anyone. That's why they're shooting. News reporters coming down just to do their shiz and not helping anyone. And that pissed off the people in the Dome.

Thats a possibility. Anyways, the Mayor of New Orleans is asking the Government for more aid. There have been Carjackings, Theft, fights, and gunshots throughout the city, so the National Guard is bringing in 2,800 Guardsmen. One Guardsman was even attacked and and the two men fought for his rifle. These people are in enough danger. They don't need to make it worse.

[Eothain]

Golden Djinn13, on Sep 1 2005, 04:11 PM, said:

Thats a possibility.

about the gas prices? hehe, it's more of a fact. They WILL rise. Basic economics. Because fo the storm, 9 oil refineries are not functioning. Roads throughout New Orleans have been destroyed. Oilr rigs in the Gulf of Mexico were wiped out because of the storm. That means there is much less available refined oil. But the demand is still equally as large as it was before. Big Demand+Less Availability=higher prices.

[Golden Djinn13]

Eothain, on Sep 1 2005, 04:26 PM, said:

about the gas prices?

I meant with the attacks on reporters.

[Izar]

Eugine said:

They will. Its now the worst natural disaster in US history.

You know, I'm sick of those people there who make recovering a hassle, I listened on news that some people were shooting at a people who were giving aid. Such fools really.

It is not. Why do people keep saying that? The "overhyping" of American weather is not unknown. The Galvaston hurricane in 1901 killed more people and did more damage in costs. it's as bad as an Earthquake in 1906 in San Fransisco, even not as bad. it is bad, don't get me wrong, but it's not the worst. We have saved ALOT of people. But I believe if the state of Luisiana should have given people free bus rides out of state, then much more would have lived.

There's also a story of a man who held on to his wife, and she said to let go, because she was going into the flood waters. He hesitated, but he had to.

-------------------Information-------------------

While the UN estimated to tsunami's cost at $10 billion, estimates of insured losses from Katrina ranged from $9 billion to $25 billion on Tuesday.

Death toll = 200 and rising fast.

State Department spokesman Sean McCormack said earlier on Wednesday 10 to 12 foreign governments have offered general assistance to the United States

[Golden Djinn13]

Like I said before... Izar knows everything. :P

More constructive posts GD13 - Eugine

[Eothain]

Golden Djinn13, on Sep 1 2005, 05:22 PM, said:

Like I said before... Izar knows everything. :P

well...have you ever heard "Question those who seek the truth, Doubt those who find it"...hence, my distrust of him. Haha, jus kidding. I don't distrust him. He's quite a sharp kid, you can have very interesting conversations with him *has some flashbacks about the history thread*

[Andross]

Jack, on Sep 1 2005, 08:17 PM, said:

*sigh* I hate it when people ignore my completely relevant posts. But you probably aren't going to read this anyway, now are you? I hate to be a nag but it gets on my nerves.

???

You didn't ask anything, why expect a reply and then post something irrelevant?
Anyway, this is the going to be one of the most expensive natural disasters, certainly up there with LA / San Francisco earthquakes (which were expensive because California property is SUPER pricey). But damages haven't even been assessed yet, so it's hard to say. Experts are fearing about 1000 deaths, though I expect 500. It's unfortunate that there are looters running around though.

[Eothain]

yup, people are looting whatever stores are left standing. And, while people need aid, president bush sends them what? THE NATIONAL GUARD!!! how nice of him.

[Unicornmaddy]

Jack, on Sep 1 2005, 09:33 PM, said:

If anyone on these forums DID get hit by Katrina, then they probably don't have a computer to post  anymore. Unless they moved to another house which DOES have one.

^_^ alright Jack no need to get smart with me...
My mum told me it would be years before anyone could go back and live there. Sad isn't it. :unsure:

[Neon]

The fallout of the hurricane is turning out much worse than the hurricane itself ._.

[TheEnglishman]

Things are going from bad to worse over there.
Apparantely a chemical plant near the Superdome has exploded. I don't know what's going to happen now but maybe this new crisis is going to make the government realise they need to get people out of there.

[Eugine]

People are saying racism is a factor in the aid issue.

I think for being "the world superpower" they should of handle that disaster more efficient after all I've seen them give aid to other countries much quicker.

[Golden Djinn13]

Thats exactly how I feel. If we can take care of another country, how come we cant take care of this problem. They send hundreds of troops, and planes into Iraq, but you can't send a few buses to pick people up, or even a few police to keep peace.

[Echo_djinn]

Other news states that the New Orleans Saints(NFL football team) we have to play in San Antonio until the stadium that they play in can be fixed. For that to happen people have estimated that it will take a year for it to be finished since money for other needs must come first.

The same goes for the New Orleans Hornets (NBA team). No news on whether they will need to be transported as well.

[Unicornmaddy]

On the news everyone is walking around with guns. Also Presidant Bush is visted everyone. I can't believe that a whole nursing home full of people is out in the streets. There was a women with a 7 week old baby on the streets. Now that really made me feel bad.

[Eothain]

if that made you feel bad...what about the people that were in the hospital on life support equipment? i mean, if they don't have power, that's it for them, they can't transfer them to some other hospital quickly enough...

[TheEnglishman]

Last night they showed on the news a nursing home where these women were dying due to dehydration. The owner was getting really upset and kept breaking down whilst he was talking. I've got to say that was the most harrowing thing I have seen whilst this thing has been going on.

[Ravenblade]

Eugine, on Sep 2 2005, 02:44 PM, said:

People are saying racism is a factor in the aid issue.

I think for being "the world superpower" they should of handle that disaster more efficient after all I've seen them give aid to other countries much quicker.

Actually the US isnt all that fast in giving aid to other countries. Europe usually gets in much faster cos we dont sit around debating how much should be spent on it. But considering this is the US, they have to work out the costs first. That doesnt mean they care any less, its just how they operate. Have they called for other countries to lend aid support? Sure it would look bad to rely on other countries but come on - pride shouldnt stand in the way of people's lives.

Im not hearing much about this whole process though as China isnt giving such great coverage (none that ive seen) on it. Presumably its all over the news back in England though.

God bless those who are affected and those who have to try and help.

[Eugine]

Well, since we had two hurricanes the US have helped us the most. They helped people fix their roofs, helped with reinstallation of electricity and some other stuff.

[Ravenblade]

Yeah but i mean the immediate response - the saving lives bit.

Im thinking specifically of the Tsunami in SE Asia...

[Izar]

Eothain, on Sep 1 2005, 09:15 PM, said:

well...have you ever heard "Question those who seek the truth, Doubt those who find it"...hence, my distrust of him. Haha, jus kidding. I don't distrust him. He's quite a sharp kid, you can have very interesting conversations with him *has some flashbacks about the history thread*

Lol, And no, not a kid.

By the way, anyone living in America, typically the south, DO NOT accept door-to-door Red Cross people who say that money will go to the people of the disaster. They are scams. Red Cross does NOT do door-to-door donations.

To make a donation -call 1-800 435 7669 (US)

American Red Cross National Headquarters
2025 E Street, NW
Washington, DC 20006
Phone: (202) 303-4498
To make a donation: (800) HELP-NOW (800-435-7669)

I got that from their site.

And racism is NOT a key factor. You know how people are, always saying people are racist.

[Andross]

Ravenblade, on Sep 3 2005, 04:38 AM, said:

Have they called for other countries to lend aid support? Sure it would look bad to rely on other countries but come on - pride shouldnt stand in the way of people's lives.

It would look bad to get help for a disaster which has displaced an entire culture? Where's the logic in that? We've actually been wondering where the hell is the support and aide from other countries, but most of all, our own leaders. Bush didn't say anything about providing military support - are our own people just not as important than the Iraqis? I'm not saying use this as an excuse for exiting Iraq, but this is absurd. There needs to be more help down in New Orleans, and the military would be best for doing the job - they have the equipment, organization, and training after all.

It just makes me sick at how stupid people have been acting during this whole calamity. (in the lower ranks and upper ones)

[Izar]

The US Army Corps of Engineers is working in the areas affected by Hurricane Katrina, including Alabama, Florida, Louisiana, and Mississippi.

10-12 countries VOLUNTEERED to help us, Including France, britain, Canada, Germany, and... I forget the rest.

[Andross]

Izar, on Sep 3 2005, 08:33 AM, said:

The US Army Corps of Engineers is working in the areas affected by Hurricane Katrina, including Alabama, Florida, Louisiana, and Mississippi.

But how strong is the presence? As someone said in my paper today, "Sometimes quantity has a quality all its own."

[Izar]

Well, they are ENGINEERS, so that should be something. Plus, I've heard that the people in Iraqi prefer to be fighting for what many of them believe is "the right thing to do." For instance, my cousins. I'm nuetral, so don't conflict it with me. ^_^

They got a crap load of snakes everywhere in luisiana now. WAter and muddy marshes are perfect for many kinds.

[Eothain]

Izar, on Sep 3 2005, 09:46 AM, said:

They got a crap load of snakes everywhere in luisiana now. WAter and muddy marshes are perfect for many kinds.

yeah. And all kinds of pests will make that mess their home. Insects for instance. Dangerous mosquito types make their homes in very humid environments, so I'd think they'll see a lot of these long-legged bugs around.

[Golden Djinn13]

I never pictured that a city like New Orleans could be so close to destruction. Its hard to believe that it could have almost been wiped out, by a hurricane.

[Izar]

Well, It's on the coast. I've been in a few huricanes, NOTHING like Katrina of course. I'm kinda coastal, just not really coastal, so Hurricanes touch here every so often.

[Golden Djinn13]

The worst hurricane I expirienced was Hurricane Flloyd. It was horrible. School was cancelled for about 2 days, and the second worst was Hurricane Elizabeth. But that wasnt really bad.

[Eugine]

The worst I experienced was hurricane Ivan, if you read up on it, you'd know it was one of the worst hurricanes last year. (Or the worst? I don't know.)

[cyberRoll]

My aunt and uncle lived in new hampshire their house got destroyed so they had to move to Texas.

[Eothain]

cyberRoll, on Sep 3 2005, 08:29 PM, said:

My aunt and uncle lived in new hampshire their house got destroyed so they had to move to Texas.

sorry to hear that. It's indeed a lot of people who have nowhere to go back to, who lost everything. I'm lucky i'm not one of them. And I'm also lucky I don't live in the Miami area, otherwise I'd have gotten screwed too...katrina did cause a bit of a mess down there

[Eugine]

Why is Bush sending so much troops and little aid?

As far as I'm reading, I don't see any country helping to US or anything.

[Platinum Sun]

Bush is sending troops and not much aid because they will be shot at. Military troops and national guardsmen are better equipped to handle that than red-cross volunteers. Plus, no one wants to help us because we're "the global superpower" and should be able to help ourselves. And perhaps because they hate us.

[Golden Djinn13]

Platinum Sun, on Sep 4 2005, 11:16 AM, said:

Bush is sending troops and not much aid because they will be shot at. Military troops and national guardsmen are better equipped to handle that than red-cross volunteers. Plus, no one wants to help us because we're "the global superpower" and should be able to help ourselves. And perhaps because they hate us.

I agree with what you said about the troops and not much aid. I think there are to many troops and not enough aid with supplies.

[Izar]

Dudes, 12 countries are wanting to help us. And they got troops there to help keep away people who are looting.

[Luna]

From what I've heard, Bush isn't pleased either. He said there's no excuse and it is simply unacceptable cause they're the United States. They should be able to handle this.

[Laharl]

Bush is a dunce who shouldn't run the powerfullest country in the world.

Ever heard of a boat?It navigates on water and can transport people to safety.

[Crimson Barrel Knight]

laharl the slayer, on Sep 5 2005, 04:40 AM, said:

Bush is a dunce who shouldn't run the powerfullest country in the world.

Ever heard of a boat?It navigates on water and can transport people to safety.

Watch the news. You'll never miss a boat.

princess of hearts, on Sep 4 2005, 06:48 PM, said:

last I heard, bush wasn't sending any troops, and like always, people started stoning him (figure of speech, not litterally). but honestly, it wasn't his fault. it was their own fault for not realizing that the govenor has to request a state of emergency for him to be able to send them.

and I know in my small city that all you hear about is "make a donation for the huricane victims today!" people all across the country are trying to make a diference. and if thereare so many people who are flaming bush for not sending enough aid, then they should get off their butts and send aid themselves.

What, so, all Bush does is make some sort of speech down there just to make people feel better? Is that the best he can do?

On another note, I donated, as well.

Izar, on Sep 4 2005, 05:32 PM, said:

Dudes, 12 countries are wanting to help us. And they got troops there to help keep away people who are looting.

Never heard about that, thus I don't believe it, unless you can provide any proof.

[King]

Well if you didnt know Hurricane Katrina accualy made 3 landfalls so yeah it was preety deadly

[Eugine]

Me too, never heard about that Izar. Show me some link or something for me to believe you.

The evacuation is going good now it seems, Bush is finally doing something useful.

[Andross]

Can people just not use Google?

The US isn't really accepting aid.

Oh: AND BUSH HATES BLACK PEOPLE!!!!! Kanye West told me so :)

[Eugine]

Yeah, I read it on Zappo and on Yahoo.

The US should recieve aid. Atleast it would put stress of the government for one.

[Izar]

Crimson Barrel Knight, on Sep 5 2005, 05:08 AM, said:

Watch the news. You'll never miss a boat.
What, so, all Bush does is make some sort of speech down there just to make people feel better? Is that the best he can do?

On another note, I donated, as well.
Never heard about that, thus I don't believe it, unless you can provide any proof.

Never heard? Omg, it's been on the news for the past few days, and people were looting my cousins.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050901/ap_on_...HNlYwMlJVRPUCUl

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2.../1/103018.shtml

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/

And there are people blaiming bush. Why? Sheesh, he was elected, wuit getting your boxers in a knot.

And I wasn't saying THEY WERE going to help, I said they WANTED to help. Don't ya'll ever read what senetors say? Kuwait gave money in aid { http://www.foxnews.c...,168443,00.html } and some other county wanted o give a few. {http://www9.sbs.com....119656&region=7 } And some more { http://www9.sbs.com.au/theworldnews/region...119656®ion=7 }

And Andross, Bush does not hate Black people, and that was off-topic.

Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon wrote to Mr Bush offering medical teams that specialised in trauma and natural disasters and said they could be ready in 24 hours.

[Andross]

Izar, on Sep 5 2005, 08:14 AM, said:

And Andross, Bush does not hate Black people, and that was off-topic.

Wow, get a clue man: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/conte...5090300165.html

Pay attention to the 'Kanye West' part next time. And it wasn't off topic actually.

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Bush is a dunce who shouldn't run the powerfullest country in the world.

You lost all credibility with that statement, sorry.

[Eothain]

i heard this today in CBS NEWS, so don't flame me if you disagree with this information. The estimated death toll had been 1,000, until now. Earlier today, search parties gave a new estimate: 10,000. Yeah, that's what they said. Also, it's gonna take them 80 days to drain the city. IF it doesn't rain anymore.

[Andross]

There are actually quite a number of people (mostly elderly) who have been refusing to leave their homes. Volunteers have gone to their doors, and couldn't force them to leave, so they moved along. I bet most of those people are going to be what causes the death toll to escalate, as they are basically sitting in a polluted, sewage drenched area with no clean water or edible food (for the most part).

[Platinum Sun]

Andross, on Sep 5 2005, 08:09 AM, said:

Oh: AND BUSH HATES BLACK PEOPLE!!!!! Kanye West told me so :)

I love the credibility base of your statement. "Hey some rapper on TV said stuff so it must be true." I'm sorry, but I refuse to accept the judgement of anyone bearing chest hair.

"-- and they've given them permission to go down and shoot us!" (West) They've been given permission to shoot back!

Aid workers are coming in slowly because they are in fear of their lives! Getting shot at sends a pretty clear message!

Bush gave clearance to fire because the troops and aid workers he's sending are more useful alive!

Andross, you need to face facts; REAL facts! Not the stoned musings of a washed-up rapper no one cares about.

[Golden Djinn13]

First of all, Kanye West is one of the best rappers and second everyone is allowed to voice there oppinion. So think about what your saying before you speak, Platinum. :)

[Platinum Sun]

I'm all for voicing opinion, just don't present it as a fact. "Kanye West told me so" might sound like substantiation to anyone not willing to read actual news.

[Andross]

Platinum Sun, on Sep 5 2005, 05:08 PM, said:

I love the credibility base of your statement. "Hey some rapper on TV said stuff so it must be true." I'm sorry, but I refuse to accept the judgement of anyone bearing chest hair.

"-- and they've given them permission to go down and shoot us!" (West) They've been given permission to shoot back!

Aid workers are coming in slowly because they are in fear of their lives! Getting shot at sends a pretty clear message!

Bush gave clearance to fire because the troops and aid workers he's sending are more useful alive!

Andross, you need to face facts; REAL facts! Not the stoned musings of a washed-up rapper no one cares about.

Are you friggin' out of your MIND!?!?!? Seriously, pick up on the sarcasm - I feel very sorry for you, making the assumption I actually believed him. Don't get caught up in the moment or you'll end up getting washed away. So, I bid you adieu http://conanstfu.ytmnd.com/

EDIT: I feel moderation in the air :)

Ah, this is what I was looking for, for all those questioning aid: http://news.bbc.co.u...cas/4216370.stm

[Platinum Sun]

I'm sorry, It's not easy to underestimate human intelligence, we set the bar pretty low. I know a lot of people that would believe that crap.

[Izar]

We got another dude from louisiana here, he's really pale and talk alot. But our school does the best it can to make him feel at home.

The death toll is around 1,000, not 10,000 to whoever said that... Eothain?

[Andross]

^ The person was stating that people are predicting the death toll will reach 10,000 - not that it is 10,000.

[Mars Djinni]

The thing is, if FEMA had made a better choice with researching ALL disasters, not leaving the majority at Terrorism, the disaster would've been even a tiny bit more bearable. That's the way I put it.

[Sea of Time]

FEMA claims that it's not their fault and The Department of Homeland Security did not supply them with the proper funds to react quick enough to a disaster like this. They claim Homeland Security sent this money to help avoid a terrorist attack.

Once again, this debate comes back to the proclamation given by every republican in office right now. "Get em where they stand, so they can't get us at home." So what? You're going to throw billions of dollars into a war in Iraq that will probably never end and leave your home country wide open to natural threats that we are already aware of and we know will come. I think it is a lot more likely that there will be a hurricane then there will be a terrorist attack. I'm not saying don't be worried about a terrorist attack, just try to even the funding on to a level playing field, or at least something close.

[Mars Djinni]

How about one department focus on terrorism as a whole, if they are so bent on wokring on it and the other work on disasters. It's much better than pointing fingers at each other saying that it's the other department's fault. Makes sense, doesn't it?

[Sea of Time]

It would run smoother but if the disaster department got significantly less money than the terrorist department, it doesn't make much of a difference in how they are handled.

[Unicornmaddy]

Eothain, on Sep 2 2005, 09:59 PM, said:

if that made you feel bad...what about the people that were in the hospital on life support equipment? i mean, if they don't have power, that's it for them, they can't transfer them to some other hospital quickly enough...

That makes me feel like s**t as well...

Isn't Bush bringing in aid right now because that's what I thought I heard on the news

[Sea of Time]

By now, the aid is there and most of the city has evacuated. The cleanup has even started and the death number will presumably be, acccording to a resident, "a hell of a lot less than 10,000"

[Izar]

I fianlly found out why there is a limited troops in Luisiana.

The President must ask the state to send troops into that state. Remember Checks and Balances?