[lifeform287]

lifeform287, on Sep 6 2005, 02:49 PM, said:

People with a low IQ say - Internet Explorer is the best browser ever
Cool people say - Firefox is the best browser ever

IE best browser ever votes - 2,110,000
Firefox best browser ever votes - 474,000

Translation:
People with low IQs in the world - 2,110,000
People who can think better then a monkey - 474,000

Read the quote, the almighty quote!
For me, Firefox all the way man. Tabs, faster, safer and much more.

I am not a crook. Vote for Firefox.

[Elliott]

This is like asking:

"Would you rather have your wrists cut and die slowly, or have sex with a beautiful woman :) "

Firefox is king :blink:

[Elliott]

Your a twit:

http://www.browsehappy.com/why
http://www.stopie.com
http://www.spreadfirefox.com/
http://saveneverside.org/

I'll try find more later.

Why?

Firefox renders pages correctly, IE does not.
Firefox has better CSS support.
Firefox is a faster browser.
Firefox supports themes and plugins.
Firefox is open source (essentially, it's made by the little guy, for the little guys).
It's free, free free!!!

EDIT: Here's mine:

http://www.skopun.net/ff

[Elliott]

Now your being irrational, spamming, flaming, and making yourself like an even bigger moron, IF that's possible. If your incapable of discussion, and rational debating, then just leave now, no one will care, most will rejoice.

[I'm Always BROKE]

Well I use IE and I think it's alright. My friend uses FireFox and lemme say... It's much faster so it's better. I wish my dad would understand and lemme download it.

[My Best Wishes]

DiddyKong, on Sep 7 2005, 05:49 PM, said:

Well I use IE and I think it's alright. My friend uses FireFox and lemme say... It's much faster so it's better. I wish my dad would understand and lemme download it.

Download it, and hide it in your folder.

Firefox, i had normal mozilla, and firefox is that much better. I must say thank you to Agatio for reccomending it.

[Elliott]

You can download and use Firefox without your dad's permission. It won't hurt anyone, in fact, it will most likely SAVE damage to your computer by using it.

[Mycarayne]

Amen to that.
I used to be a IE user and thought "how could anything possibly be better than Internet Explorer".

How naive I was.

[Neo]

Ofcourse I use Firefox, on my own computer. but my processor just burned trough and the motherboard has a broken CPU, so yeh, I need to get new motherboard and processor. Anyway, I'm on my sis't laptop now, and I was about to download Firefox when she came in the room, and yelled I shouldn't download ****. I had a 30 minutes lasting conversation, but in the end she stopped me from downloading, cause she is so ****ing stubborn.

Jack said:

And you're an emo. Hah, your signature has turned against you, roffle!

WTF was that about? dude, that's just a post of someone who doesn't know what to say, since he knows the other is right. you are just too ****ing stubborn to admit. But don't post such crap!
I wonder what your warn level is... 80%? if not, make it so!

[Eugine]

I know personally Firefox is better, I use both. I just don't really care which one I use. I just click which ever one I see first.

[Jeremiah]

I use IE! T_T
Does this mean everybody thinks i'm stupid? ;_;

[I'm Always BROKE]

Nope.

WE MUNKEYS LIEK IE! O.O;

KILL THE FIREFOX AND START OUR REVOLUTION OF IE!!! MUWAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHA!

[Golden Djinn13]

I can't believe there is actually a competition. Firefox owns IE. Its not an oppinion, its a fact

[Andross]

Jack, on Sep 7 2005, 12:34 AM, said:

Go to Hell, you stupid flaming mammal. IE fo' show.

You're going to be banned. I just know it. It's too easy . . .

I'll throw in my own metaphorical analogy: This is like choosing between a Maserati and a Pinto. This is like choosing between Hawaii and Antarctica. This is like choosing between being popular and smart or being a good for nothing spammer who no one likes.

[Golden Djinn13]

I know he will get banned eventually, too. :D

Thats the truth. Firefox has way more features that you would have to buy or download to get on IE. I can't see myself using IE ( unless they create a version better than Firefox :) ) or unless a webpage doesn't work on Firefox and requires IE, which happens often.

[Eugine]

Andross, on Sep 7 2005, 03:13 PM, said:

You're going to be banned. I just know it. It's too easy . . .

I'll throw in my own metaphorical analogy: This is like choosing between a Maserati and a Pinto. This is like choosing between Hawaii and Antarctica. This is like choosing between being popular and smart or being a good for nothing spammer who no one likes.

Thank your for sticking up for IE Andross :D
You heard it from Andross himself, why choose IE.


But really, the only reason IE is doing so good is because it comes with Windows. Otherwise no one would get it in its current state.

[The Postman]

Well I say Opera... :D >_>
Faster than IE AND Firefox...

[Nick Presta]

I'm kind of disappointed that Opera/Safari/Konqueror aren't included in that list. However, I will go with FF.

[lifeform287]

nick1presta, on Sep 7 2005, 06:23 PM, said:

I'm kind of disappointed that Opera/Safari/Konqueror aren't included in that list. However, I will go with FF.

If they were, I would call it: "Which browser?"

IE is there when you install it, cause Windows doesn't care about quility. They just care about MONEY.

[Mars Djinni]

Obviouly Firefox. IE's crewing up at all the sites I go to and limit me to 4kbps rather than the usuan 20-12kbps.

[Jeremiah]

Hmm...
Maybe i should download FireFox.
...
Nah, i'm too lazy to go and download it. :D

[I'm Always BROKE]

Well really I do not use the internet as a pro.
I just go visit you all and search things on Google.
So I won't need FireFox I think.

[Sea of Time]

I've never used Firefox, so my vote is biased but I voted for IE. *cowers in fear*

[Andross]

DiddyKong, on Sep 9 2005, 11:07 AM, said:

Well really I do not use the internet as a pro.
I just go visit you all and search things on Google.
So I won't need FireFox I think.

YOU FOOL! Firefox allows you to type into the address bar 'google [search term]' and does the Google search for you, OR you can type in a word and FF takes you to the first Google result. It also allows you to do the same thing w/dictionary.com (dict [search word]), and it gives you a plethora of other search engines in a dropdown right next to it. AND, if you get the extension 'Better Search', Google results will let you see thumbnails of the site.

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Nah, i'm too lazy to go and download it

Click here to automatically download - no, not to go to the site, this will open the DOWNLOAD for you. So if you're this lazy, you're as bad as Jack!

[Elliott]

Whether you're a pro or not, just an infrequent browser, developer, or first time user, Firefox is for you. It's ultimately better that Internet Explorer in EVERY single way. There is NO excuse not to use it, other than not hearing about it. Anyone who knows about it and doesn't use it (or to a lesser extent, Opera) really has issues.

[Eugine]

Yep. Firefox is better than IE in everyway except personally, I prefer the look of IE. Use Firefox really, don't follow me, do not use IE. I am a bad example.

[Someone Else]

The only reason I use the Internet is to go on forums largely. Therefore I don't really see the need to get used to a new Internet Browser.

My dad largely is the "Administrator" of the computer anyway, so if you're going to blame anyone for being too lazy to get FFox, blame my dad.

[Elliott]

Talk them into people. It's always a change for the better. 10 minutes work can stop a lot of spy/adware and keep nasty pop ups out of your way.

[Nick Presta]

Also, pointed towards Eugine; You can get skins of FF that look like IE so you don't notice much of a difference.

[Izar]

Where do we get those skins?

I like FireFox. Why? It Rules.

Firefox is much better at keeping away viruses, spammy email, etc, but with all the programs I got that keep away spam, I don't really use it for that. It's faster.

The only site I really use IE with is this one, GSSF. Why? Because with FF, I don't see everyone's avatars updated for some odd reason. I still use Firefox though, for this site, most of the time.

[Elliott]

Right click the avatar in FF and select "view image". Simply hit refresh and the new avatar will appear, then click back and it will be updated over the entire forum. Alternatively you can hold shift and press refresh, which will resend all information from that page.

Firefox doesn't keep out spam e-mail, Thunderbird does.

[Izar]

Not only will that get annoying for everyone, but it takes time. i prefer to just go to IE for a few seconds, let the page load, and come back with FF and the avatars work fine.
I mean that they keep away those sites you go to that get your email and send spam. For instance, popular gaming sites.

[Elliott]

It really isn't that annoying. The avatars update very frequently anyway, so the "view image" technique is only needed if something has gone wrong with FF. If it really is a pain, just do a a re-install.

[Someone Else]

Agatio, on Sep 9 2005, 10:38 PM, said:

Talk them into people. It's always a change for the better. 10 minutes work can stop a lot of spy/adware and keep nasty pop ups out of your way.

Oh, sure, I've talked to him about it, and he seems interested. He's just a bit too "busy" to do it anytime soon. Does FFox take a while to get used to/install/download?

Plus our computer (I'm using my grandma's right now) is due for a system re-install soon, besides. I've got something that I believe to be in the RegKeys that's causing my computer to have overall performance problems, such as internet lag, (even on a Broadband cable) startup lag, shutdown lag, etc. You know how it is with RegKeys, you've got to be careful with what you tamper with.

[Nick Presta]

Izar, on Sep 10 2005, 10:36 AM, said:

Where do we get those skins?

I like FireFox. Why? It Rules.

Firefox is much better at keeping away viruses, spammy email, etc, but with all the programs I got that keep away spam, I don't really use it for that. It's faster.

The only site I really use IE with is this one, GSSF. Why? Because with FF, I don't see everyone's avatars updated for some odd reason. I still use Firefox though, for this site, most of the time.

https://addons.mozilla.org/

Click on "Themes" and "Extensions" for the best FireFox stuff. There are some great plugins too.

Personally, I would get this if you want a IE style theme (https://addons.mozil...ication=firefox).

LittleFox (https://addons.mozil...ication=firefox) theme is great since it uses up a lot less screen space than most other themes. Of course, there are tons of other themes that just look great (I had over 25 themes when I used FF regularly).

[Golden Djinn13]

Speaking of add ons. Has anyone tried the User Agent Switcher. I found out that if you set it right, you can get the same browser that the PSP uses.

[Andross]

Wind Dude, on Sep 10 2005, 10:15 AM, said:

Oh, sure, I've talked to him about it, and he seems interested. He's just a bit too "busy" to do it anytime soon. Does FFox take a while to get used to/install/download?

You seem way too hesitant for your own good. It's a 10sec. download for your PC (since you say you have broadband), and the installation takes maybe 5 minutes tops. It imports everything from IE (as long as you tell it to), so you shouldn't worry about problems with the switch. Now damnit, DO IT ALREADY. Screw your dad.

[Someone Else]

Well, thanks for being concerned about my well being. ;) My dad likes to feel in "control". I'll get it, seeing how I just realised that I can switch between both browsers.

[I'm Always BROKE]

Andross, on Sep 9 2005, 11:12 PM, said:

YOU FOOL! Firefox allows you to type into the address bar 'google [search term]' and does the Google search for you, OR you can type in a word and FF takes you to the first Google result. It also allows you to do the same thing w/dictionary.com (dict [search word]), and it gives you a plethora of other search engines in a dropdown right next to it. AND, if you get the extension 'Better Search', Google results will let you see thumbnails of the site.
Click here to automatically download - no, not to go to the site, this will open the DOWNLOAD for you. So if you're this lazy, you're as bad as Jack!

Well thanks Andross Im downloading it right now and it's not as big as I thought it would be... Well I will check if it's better than IE now cuz its ready.

EDIT: Well I started up FireFox and I hardly find anything difrent. Yeah it's more compact but the images take longer to show up.

[Nick Presta]

The images take longer to show up in FF because IE had them cached.

[Golden Djinn13]

nick1presta, on Sep 12 2005, 02:34 PM, said:

The images take longer to show up in FF because IE had them cached.

I always wondered why that happened for FF. I thought it was becasue IE was just
faster.

[Elliott]

Heh, no way. Firefox loads pages a heap faster than IE. They store everything in different caches though, so when you first go form IE, which has all GSSF images cached, to Firefox, which has none, it will seem a lot slower. Give it time.

[Crimson Barrel Knight]

This is a rather old discussion. It's been established long ago that Firefox just works better. Simple as that.

Though I am having some flaws with it, so I just use IE as a back-up, since very few websites aren't capable enough for Firefox to display. I believe it depends on the Java code ...

And I didn't come here to have a heated discussion over the above mentioned. I came here to state what was on my mind. If anyone has any problems, PM me.

Other than that, leave me alone. =/

[Nick Presta]

Actually, rendering problems have to deal with the way IE renders CSS and certain elements.

An example of this would be the lack of support in IE for the :hover attribute on anything but an anchor.

http://nickpresta.at...esthoverIE.html

[Elliott]

Crimson Barrel Knight, on Sep 13 2005, 08:41 AM, said:

This is a rather old discussion. It's been established long ago that Firefox just works better. Simple as that.

Though I am having some flaws with it, so I just use IE as a back-up, since very few websites aren't capable enough for Firefox to display. I believe it depends on the Java code ...

And I didn't come here to have a heated discussion over the above mentioned. I came here to state what was on my mind. If anyone has any problems, PM me.

Other than that, leave me alone. =/

It's a very old discussion, but it seems the presence of this topic has converted a few people. It's not Java code, it's Javascript, confusing at first, but they are very different. And why would you assume there would be a headed discussion, or that there would be problems?

[Eugine]

The topic was going fine CBK. I actually liked reading this new topic also. Atleast it made me more interested in Firefox.

Yeah Nick, I tried that link on both IE and Firefox the hovering only works on FF.

[Someone Else]

Some people consider themselves "higher" than others becase they are more knowledgable, and know FF is better. I dunno.

[Elliott]

Well obviously if we know Firefox is better, then we are more knowledgable, about internet browsers of course. I don't know about higher, but it seems most, if not all, web designers/developers use Firefox.

[Someone Else]

Well, let's just say arrogant then. They think it gives them a right to shove less knowledgable users around. :)

[Elliott]

Well if someone is going to be silly enough to know about Firefox but still use Internet Explorer, I think they deserve to be pushed around. The benefits of using FF over IE are well worth the download and conversion.

[Someone Else]

I suppose. I guess the folks down at IE should cut the crap and make a better-quality browser if they are going to be the "default" browser. Hm.

[Elliott]

It's because they don't care about quallity/performance. They know around 90% of people buy Windows as their operating system, and they just chuck IE in along with it. That just the way MS is, so it's up to people like Mozilla to make better products (the same applies for Macromedia with Dreamweaver as opposed to Frontpage).

Which leaves people like Myself, Andross, Nick etc. telling people the advantages of using an alternate browser, and if we have to "push people around" in order to convert them, then so be it. They will thank us later.

[Eugine]

Usually experienced computer users use FF (not that I'm saying n00bs use IE, cause there are some really smart people who use it). But Generally, I'll say so.

[Nick Presta]

http://en.wikipedia....of_web_browsers

That should be all you need. Take a look at how IE compares to other browsers (almost ANY other browser) and you will want to switch.

[Elliott]

Eugine, on Sep 15 2005, 07:34 AM, said:

Usually experienced computer users use FF (not that I'm saying n00bs use IE, cause there are some really smart people who use it). But Generally, I'll say so.

Not smart enough to know a better browser :) .
Anyway, like has been said before, this is a very old subject, and always ends up with Firefox being called the better browser. All we (FF users) can really do is evangalise (like I have done with http://skopun.net/ff ).

[Someone Else]

Well, I guess the topic is pretty much done with unless someone has something else to add in. I'm happily converted to FFox, it's a pretty nice browser, good-and-stylish.

Of course, I'm not saying to close the topic lawlzors