[Sea of Time]

I don't know if this is happening anywhere else but there are talks here in Canada about changing the name of the Christmas tree to a Holiday tree.

Now there are many sides to the story, but it is mainly religious. The government feels that if they call it a Christmas tree, it is being exclusive to all other religions. If they call it a holiday tree, it isn't.

What are your thoughts on this "debate"?

[Luna]

Frankly, all of this politically correct crap is pissing me off. They're just complicating things.

[Elliott]

It's called a 'Christmas Tree' because it's for the 'Christmas holiday'.

Though I'm obviously anti-religion, it's a good holiday despite the religious background, and the name shouldn't be changed because some terrorist orientated religions think that the name is exclusive to one religion.

It's always been Christmas, everyone knows it as that.

Plus 'Holiday Tree' just sounds ****ing wanky.

[TheEnglishman]

Stuff like this is really annoying me. In one town they're going to call their christmas parade 'a festival of lights' so it doesn't upset anyone. Even people who aren't christian are complaining.

[Eugine]

Changing it to holiday tree makes it sound like you can use it for the entire year as long as there's an holiday...

Why are they trying to change the true meaning of Christmas, if it wasn't for the Christian fate Christmas would not of been extablished!

[TheEnglishman]

The reason they do it is so that the other religions aren't offended. They haven't realised that people with a different religion aren't offended anyway.

[el_Sethro]

I'm Canadian, and this is the first I've heard about it.

anyway, if it is true, it's stupid. it's a Christian holiday. if you're offended by it, chances are, you don't celebrate Christmas, anyway.

besides, you can always call it "X-mas"

[Someone Else]

This is part of the reason why I'm a little bit disapproving of religion. Why? Because religion TEARS PEOPLE AND COMMUNITIES APART.

It's a frikkin' name. IT DOESN'T MEAN ANYTHING. In fact, the "true" meaning of Christmas has practically been forgotten. Now it's a commercial holiday, not a religious holiday.

Besides, even if they "Officially" changed the name of the Christmas tree to the "Holiday tree", people would still call it a Christmas tree since they're used to it being that way. And if Canada tries to make you guys call it a Holiday tree, well I don't entirely know how things are done up in Canada, but down here in the U.S. that would be a violation of your Civil rights.

This post has been edited by Wind Dude: 23 November 2005 - 12:59 PM

[Sea of Time]

As their trying to be inclusive to people of other religions, they're being exclusive to the majority of Canada who are Christians. It's just annoying.

[Eugine]

I take that as an insult WD.

1. The true meaning of Christmas may have been forgotten where you are from, but not here, besides, it's told in the Bible the true meaning will be forgotten.

2. It is NOT Christmas if Christmas is removed, therefore if you remove Christmas you remove "Merry Christmas" and the Christmas holiday.

Now, I wonder what your founding fathers are saying...

This post has been edited by Eugine: 23 November 2005 - 05:58 PM

[Platinum Sun]

I think that if we all have to be politically correct and espect everyone else's religion, then they have to respect ours. Christanity is a religion too, and just because it's the biggest doesn't automatically mean that it's the most oppressive.

[Sea of Time]

I mean, if they had a big Minorah in the middle of Rockefeller Center, would we be calling it Holiday Candles? I don't think so.

[I'm Always BROKE]

Really I don't get why someone could be upset about it... Why would you care if it's called diffrent? You can still call it Christmas Tree if you like... B)

[Golden Djinn13]

Okay, Christmas is part of a religion, so if you don't want to call it a christmas tree, then obviously you don't support that religion, so don't celebrate it, and spare us all the crap. Its that simple B)

[MysticWarrior]

Anyone who calls it a holiday tree should be shot, that's what I think.

[Platinum Sun]

MysticWarrior, on Nov 27 2005, 10:56 PM, said:

Anyone who calls it a holiday tree should be shot, that's what I think.

I like this guy. He knows how to get things done.

[Sea of Time]

MysticWarrior, on Nov 27 2005, 09:56 PM, said:

Anyone who calls it a holiday tree should be shot, that's what I think.

That's the short and easy way, I guess. XD But seriously, politicians must have better things to do than think about negativities of calling a christmas tree what it is. I mean, isn't there a war going on?