[Someone Else]

It's like Nintendo 64 versus Playstation (the orignal) but revamped into PORTABLES these days...

Anyway, I've owned both a PSP and a DS. I've owned my DS much longer, but I've had my PSP for a few weeks now so anyhoo.

Comparing the PSP to the DS and vice versa is like comparing cheese to brocoli: They're completely different. Well, both cheese and brocoli can give you gas (especially old cheese) but other than that, they're not much alike.

So anyway, I'll start off with the PSP on my personal opinions on it's Pros and Cons.

Pros
+ Better, more stylish design than the DS
+ Bigger screen than the DS
+ A larger WiFi-scan range (I think)
+ Better graphics
+ Better audio
+ Analog Stick
+ Uh... lots of additional features... =D

Cons
- While stylish, the PSP's "face" is easily smudged.
- Weak library of games when compared to the DS's fun games
- The battery "area" of the PSP heats easily, which feels a little weird.
- WEAK BATTERY LIFE
- After playing the DS for about a month, you'll feel sort of limited with only one screen on the PSP XD

Now the DS.

Pros
+ Fun, innovative games
+ Two screens ARE better than one
+ Plays GBA games
+ Uhh... Touch Screen? =D
+ Nice, small game cards
+ Better battery life than the PSP, doesn't heat as much either.

Cons
- Seems to have a somewhat weaker WiFi range than the PSP
- After playing with the PSP for a month, the screens feel a little small
- The DS tends to have poor ergonomics for people who have smaller hands while using the Touch Screen
- The stylus is kind of easy to lose
- No Analog Stick


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Feel free to disagree, just be debatable about it, rather than flammable. Haha, flammable. I prefer my DS, for the record, simply because the games are so cool and innovative. =D

[Split Infinity]

Um...I was pretty much going to say exactly what he said.

[Blink]

Warmer battery spot? I'd never heard of that one.

Stylus easy to lose? I haven't had that problem...I just keep it in my hand, or in the slot :P

Can't say much for Wifi, but with all the power PSP has, a wider Wifi range makes a lot of sense. Might just feel wider because it has more antenea bars or something though, I dunno. But then again, it seems that for Ad-hock/WLAN, DS has a further range than for WFC, so that might have something to do with it.

[Zxor]

I am with Blink, I leave the Stylus in the slot >_>

[Laharl]

i don't even use the stylus, perhaps the psp could develop some ORIGINAL titles not just ps2 clones, but that's asking too much of them

[Mycarayne]

I watch more visual media on my PSP than I play games. Dunno if this is a pro or a con though. It definetly need's MUCH better games though.

I don't have a DS, and I've forgotten the only reason I had to actually buy one. So, I've never bought one. >_>

[Laharl]

PSPs UMD which are more expensive than DVDs, still wondering why someone should buy them

[Split Infinity]

UMD's carry a billion times more data.

[Mycarayne]

laharl the slayer, on Jan 6 2006, 08:04 PM, said:

PSPs UMD which are more expensive than DVDs, still wondering why someone should buy them

I don't. Theres a little thing calld PSP video 9. It turns any media into MPEG4 so the PSP can read it.
I have one UMD video, because it came free with my PSP.

Besides, people buy UMDs because they're alot morre portable than DVDs

[Someone Else]

Blink, on Jan 5 2006, 06:53 PM, said:

Warmer battery spot? I'd never heard of that one.

It's only a small thing, really. So nobody probably complained about it. Either that, or my PSP was defective. :P

[Sea of Time]

The PSP could be much better if they didn't take PS2 titles, add extreme to the title, take away some of the game's story and then sell it out for in some cases more money than the originals.

[TheEnglishman]

To be honest I don't see the point of arguing about it. If you want a PSP, get one. If you want a DS, get one.

[Sea of Time]

Of course we should argue! That's the whole point of a forum! Discussion = argument

[Someone Else]

^ He's right you know!!

Anyway... can we get the poll in now?! i^i

[Sea of Time]

Didn't I already make a topic exactly like this? Wait a sec, let me check...

Nope :P it must have been at another forum.

This post has been edited by Sea_of_Time: 06 January 2006 - 06:23 PM

[Eugine]

Well, towards gaming I think I'm into the DS now but overall I'm into the PSP. Plus, I can download all my old games *free* D: onto my PSP and play them. All my friends do that. Contra on the PSP :P

This post has been edited by Eugine: 06 January 2006 - 06:40 PM

[Sea of Time]

I'm not voting for either of them because I like my GBA. I don't plan on buying either of them and I've submitted to the fact that I don't know enough about either of them to make a decision.

[Someone Else]

The "neutral" option is overrated; it kind of detracts from the sole purpose of the poll, could you take it down, please? If they're neutral, just null.

[Laharl]

this was a poll? Well if you don't like either then null or wait until a clear favourite emerges

[Someone Else]

Argh, I forgot to mention that the DS has no Analog Stick while the PSP does!!

Seriously, this is the one thing that really puts me down about the DS. They could've (and should've) put an Analog Stick right under the D Pad, just like PSP's...

This post has been edited by Wind Dude: 07 January 2006 - 07:02 PM

[Wiflewood]

But then SONY would go on a big lawsuit spree for stealing their idea.

I vote DS, mainly because of the Nintendo games, and also because the PSP looks a bit on the 'thin and delicate' side to be bouncing around in the bottom of my bag.

[Someone Else]

Wiflewood, on Jan 8 2006, 12:11 AM, said:

But then SONY would go on a big lawsuit spree for stealing their idea.

Well, then Nintendo could back themselves up, saying Sony is stealing their idea of making a Portable console. :P

[Golden Legacy]

But surely the DS's touch screen capabilities make up for a lack of an Analog Stick? On that note, I've tried to use the PSP's... it's fairly small (more like an "Analag Nub") and it is especially difficult to maneuveur; still functional, but nothing like a console's.

[Someone Else]

Have you player Mario 64? You can touch the screen to control Mario/whoever like you would with an Analog Stick, but it simply doesn't work.

[Blink]

And yet, Animal Crossing Wild World pulls it off better than an analouge stick, but it's done just a tad differently.

[Split Infinity]

I've heard rumors that the PSP is extremely fragile. One of my friends told me that his cousin started playing his brand new PSP, and the R button broke the first time he pressed it. :P

[Eugine]

The PSP is definetly more fragile. Do not put your PSP in your pants or a matter of fact do not put it anywhere without the case. It destroys easily.

[Someone Else]

Blink, on Jan 8 2006, 03:16 PM, said:

And yet, Animal Crossing Wild World pulls it off better than an analouge stick, but it's done just a tad differently.

True. Sometimes I make my character move around with the Touch Screen just for the hell of it. =P

[My Best Wishes]

Yes the PSP'S battery life sucks, it smudges easily, it's fragile, it's game selections aren't great (but look at the DS'S) and dead pixals sucks so much ballsack.

But from an owner of both, the only thing the DS win's on is gba games, BUT only becuase gba emulators haven't been hacked for firmware 2.01 :D

And how is the psp's game range small? i own 5 games, wipeout pure, gta:Lc, coded arms, untold legends and need for speed most wanted.

Compared to my DS: Metriod prime demo (actually i loved it the first time i played) mario 64 ds ( a flop but i needed something with the launch) madden 2005 (sucks balls) and mario kard ds (legendary!!!)

The whole marketing on the DS was on the touch screen, but what a fragile piece of equipment that is. Poke it to hard, it brakes. Expose it to steam, water, excessive heat, it brakes. Get something trapped under the cover so the screen always goes to the left making you think it's defective and non-sellable cos nintendo won't fix it (happened to me).

All in all the psp is just so much better.
DS+money=game
PSP+big memory card+internet=FREE GAMES!!!!!!!!!!

To all-The analog stick is small but there are larger ones with better grips, just like with the stylus.

WD-True, after playing the psp the ds screens feel so small. And it's like comparing the 64 to the ps2, graphic wise and value wise.

[Laharl]

The psp analogue is horrible it's just too awkward for me, also i was playing Untold Legends on my friend's PSP and it crashed, have you ever had a game boy game crash, i think not.

[TheEnglishman]

I heard about a girl who was teasing her brother by holding his PSP out of a window. Unfortunatly she dropped it and it broke.

[Someone Else]

watch, on Jan 10 2006, 12:11 AM, said:

The whole marketing on the DS was on the touch screen, but what a fragile piece of equipment that is. Poke it to hard, it brakes. Expose it to steam, water, excessive heat, it brakes. Get something trapped under the cover so the screen always goes to the left making you think it's defective and non-sellable cos nintendo won't fix it (happened to me).

Never ever EVER handle any electronic device near water, steam, or excessive heat. NEVER. I speak on behalf of all electronic devices, both PSP and DS. And unless you have the arms of a professional wrestler, I have a hard time believing that you broke your Touch Screen simply by poking it too hard (and this is coming from the guy who lost all but one stylus across two DS systems :D ). But otherwise, yes, the Touch Screen is fairly delicate. You'd think that Nintendo would've developed the screen from some other material that doesn't smudge or scratch (more like trails from the stylus rather than scratches) so easily. I've seen other "Touch Screens" that don't smudge much or scratch as easily as the DS, unless you're trying to do it purposely, anyway.

I'm pretty sure you just got a faulty DS, watch. Get a new one cheap somewhere. Actually, maybe you should get a new one at full price... to make sure you actually get one that's not faulty. :o

All in all, the PSP and the DS are both fairly delicate. At least the DS folds up to protect the screens from wear n' tear... note that the PSP does have a fold-up travel case accessory, so you can get that to protect it too.

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And how is the psp's game range small? i own 5 games, wipeout pure, gta:Lc, coded arms, untold legends and need for speed most wanted.

I didn't say the game range was small. Did I say that? If I did, that was a mistake. Nah, the PSP has a decently sized library, but compared to the DS's insanely fun games, the PSP's range of games are pretty weak. If your DS worked, I'm sure you'd agree.

EDIT: Oh yeah, and even if the Touch Screen does smudge and scratch easy, when you turn the DS's power on and the screens light up, you don't notice any of that stuff. :o

[Sea of Time]

I've made my decision. And I haven't been persuaded by anyone. I would pick the DS because the PSP's price point is too high, and the WiFi games for the DS appeal a lot more than some of the PS2 ripoff titles on the PSP.

[Someone Else]

As individual as ever I see, SOT. :D

[GoldenX]

I owned a DS but after getting the PSP I was convinced about it. I sold my DS to my brother since he lost his SP. I'm happier with the SP and a PSP. Not only does it give a nice balance of games they are one letter apart. One whole letter. Plus the PSP graphics are a lot better, and the games for it are getting bigger.

[My Best Wishes]

laharl the slayer, on Jan 10 2006, 09:17 PM, said:

The psp analogue is horrible it's just too awkward for me, also i was playing Untold Legends on my friend's PSP and it crashed, have you ever had a game boy game crash, i think not.

Well actually i have, more then once.

Wind Dude, on Jan 11 2006, 04:03 AM, said:

Never ever EVER handle any electronic device near water, steam, or excessive heat. NEVER. I speak on behalf of all electronic devices, both PSP and DS. And unless you have the arms of a professional wrestler, I have a hard time believing that you broke your Touch Screen simply by poking it too hard (and this is coming from the guy who lost all but one stylus across two DS systems :o ). But otherwise, yes, the Touch Screen is fairly delicate. You'd think that Nintendo would've developed the screen from some other material that doesn't smudge or scratch (more like trails from the stylus rather than scratches) so easily. I've seen other "Touch Screens" that don't smudge much or scratch as easily as the DS, unless you're trying to do it purposely, anyway.

I'm pretty sure you just got a faulty DS, watch. Get a new one cheap somewhere. Actually, maybe you should get a new one at full price... to make sure you actually get one that's not faulty. :P

Lol i meant having something trapped under the paneling happened to me, lol not smashing the screen.
Nah, i'm fine with my psp, i got the DS for mario karts and SSB and Mario karts was good but not fantastic.

[I'm Always BROKE]

I voted for the DS. Mainly because of the funny games and because the PSP is daaamn expensive and you need to buy alot of accecoires to make it fun to play with.

EDIT: Oh and watch I think Mario Kart DS IS fantastic. I think it's the best Mario Kart ever made.

This post has been edited by DiddyKong: 12 January 2006 - 01:26 AM

[Laharl]

watch, on Jan 12 2006, 04:37 AM, said:

Well actually i have, more then once.

you do know you're not supposed to pull the carts out while it's turned on, right?

The psp's UMD after some analysis is most comical, right you need to get your battery to last the length of the film, WITH VOLUME ON so you can actually hear, decreasing battery life and hope it doesn't crash

This post has been edited by laharl the slayer: 12 January 2006 - 03:52 AM

[Someone Else]

watch, on Jan 11 2006, 08:37 PM, said:

Lol i meant having something trapped under the paneling happened to me, lol not smashing the screen.
Nah, i'm fine with my psp, i got the DS for mario karts and SSB and Mario karts was good but not fantastic.

Actually, I thought you hated the PSP? XD You thought it was a waste o' moolah.

Out of curiousity, how did you get something trapped under the paneling, anyway?

I hope Sony develops stronger batteries for the PSP. The battery life is plain absurd...

[Blink]

Wind Dude, on Jan 12 2006, 08:37 AM, said:

Out of curiousity, how did you get something trapped under the paneling, anyway?

I could imagine accidentally leaving your stylus on the screen if you ran to grab the phone, and then slamming the screen shut on it....but that wouldn't do much.

[My Best Wishes]

Wind Dude, on Jan 13 2006, 03:37 AM, said:

Actually, I thought you hated the PSP? XD You thought it was a waste o' moolah.

Out of curiousity, how did you get something trapped under the paneling, anyway?

I hope Sony develops stronger batteries for the PSP. The battery life is plain absurd...

Yea I was originally against the psp full throttle but after seeing what it can do, I dunno I just bought it. It was actually more of an impulse thing though, I was bored on my holidays and work gave me an unbelievable amount of hours in two weeks, and two very long shifts had penalty rates, and I just went out and bought one. And I guess the DS's wifi features offer me nothing since I don't have a router, so Mario karts and AC:WW have nothing much to offer me.

I don't know how something got trapped under it. I never cleaned it that often or that well and I used to eat while playing on it etc.

And again we all know how crap the psp battery life is.

[Someone Else]

watch, on Jan 12 2006, 05:21 PM, said:

And I guess the DS's wifi features offer me nothing since I don't have a router, so Mario karts and AC:WW have nothing much to offer me.

Sorry but that was sort of ignorant. ACWW and MK are great games, online play or not.

[My Best Wishes]

To be honest i actually haven't played AC:WW, i thought it was a wifi game only, and Mario kart's was good by itself (i love battle mode) but playing againest other people would add so much.

[Laharl]

Is AA:WW out in the US? it should be over here soon if it is

[l3lueMage]

I would go with DS, I played it thought doing dual screenstuff would be hard, but it makes it easier, Though PSP can play mini-dvd's not worth it lol, I hopefully am gettin a DS soon : D

[GoldenX]

If you think about it the PSP battery life isn't that bad, and many people forget to switch the power save mode on. The life is only about 4 to 5 hours, which is bad compared to the DS but running good software and graphics takes power from the battery. The DS and the PSP have good and bad points all together.

The DS only plays games (for now, they'll probably do the same TV shows thing like they did for the GBA), while the PSP can do multiply things (music, videos, photo gallery, and games) and the biggest one is browsing the internet which I don't think anyone brought up. Plus the DS games are too small, easy to lose and breakable like the iPod nano. The PSP games are small, but bigger and more endurable than the DS and the PSP's UMD comes with a case like ones for the GC, PS2, and Xbox.

This is a opinion for a rating for both 1-10

DS- 7 1/2 (needs bigger range of things to do)

PSP- 8 (needs a MUCH better battery life)

[l3lueMage]

Thats your rating mine is:

DS 8/10, has good games, DS is meant for games not movies and such

PSP 7/10 - not many games, its a Handheld gaming system, you dont need to be able to do FTP watch movies and all that on it...

[Someone Else]

GoldenX, on Jan 13 2006, 10:47 AM, said:

The PSP games are small, but bigger and more endurable than the DS and the PSP's UMD comes with a case like ones for the GC, PS2, and Xbox.

Well, it's kinda obvious you don't have a DS. The DS' GameCards are actually more durable than the PSP's UMD disks. Disks are easily scratched (although the PSP's UMD's are partly covered, there's still one space that remains open so that the PSP can read it, and that spot is open to damage) while the only way that the DS's GameCard could be damaged that I can see were if it were to be crushed or dropped in water. I'm not sure if water can actually damage it, but I'm not going to try. XP;

And the DS' games also come with a case. They aren't shaped like the console cases, (they're more like squares, rather than a verticle rectangle) but that's doesn't really matter, now does it? :P


While the PSP can browse the web, I would only do it as a last resort really. The PSP's screen is small when compared to a computer monitor, and is really not meant to browse the web. It get's annoying that you have to constantly scroll to see anything. So if you were packing to go on vacation somewhere and you expected to browse the internet... just bring a laptop before you go.

And I have a question for everyone... since when we have we expected Nintendo to make a console that can do multiple things besides video games? :o

What's the power save mode anyway? I didn't bother to look at the PSP Manual. XD I just took one look at it and said: "...that's one big booklet."

[Sea of Time]

Ratings now, are we? Alright, here's mine.

DS: 7/10 Cool options on WiFi but I'm still not sold on the touch screen.

PSP: 6.5/10 A gaming machine is meant to play games primarily, I get the feeling PSP is almost a better machine for movies and not games. The games that are for the system are PS2 ripoffs, too.

[Someone Else]

SOT, do you have a DS yet?

And actually, at this point I wouldn't want to try and play movies on the PSP because of the short battery life. XDD The PSP's battery life ranges from, what, 2-3 hours or 4-5 hours? I'd hate to watch LOTR on it. XD;;

[Sea of Time]

People, I want nothing to do with the DS or the PSP, I am buying neither. I will buy the Revolution though.

[My Best Wishes]

Sea_of_Time, on Jan 14 2006, 11:27 AM, said:

The games that are for the system are PS2 ripoffs, too.

Get over the fact that sony has put games from a sony console onto another sony console. It's like me getting pissed of because mario karts is on snes, 64, gamecube, gba and ds.

Everyone says: Well the psp can do all these things but all i do is...what a waste!

The only features i use are the games and when i can figure out how to use pspvideo9 soccer ads/matches. Sure the mp3 player is cool but with a ipod big dead, the wallpapers are a nice feature i think and the browser, who cares. Inshort-I bought the psp for gaming same reason i bought the DS.

[Sea of Time]

Objection!

Having NFL Street 2 on PS2, then NFL Street: Unleashed on PSP is totally different than having Mario Kart on SNES, 64, and GC.

At least with Nintendo, the games change as they move system to system.

[Someone Else]

Too bad the PSP's games ain't too great right now, but it will get better I... think...

Or will it?

Hmm...


I don't really mind that the PSP's games are "PS2 ripoffs" because I didn't have a PS2. :o

[Sea of Time]

The one game for the PSP I would like to have is Madden 06. I've always wanted to play console-worthy football while I'm at school "working".

[Someone Else]

See, I'm not much of a sports-game guy. In truth I don't really know what I am anymore.

I use to love RPGs, but these days I'm so impatient and get bored so quickly I can't even play GS1 or GS2 through anymore. And I know those games like the back of my hand! Tycoon games are fun too, but I just feel like I'm pointing and clicking through the whole thing, which bores me, too. Same goes for RTS games. Racing games are fun and challenge for a while, but I'm like a racing god. Give me a week, and I'll master it. The only reason I never win in MKDS online is because noobs always close out on me when I'm in the lead.

And my game preference rotates from day-to-day. Who knows what I'll want to play tomorrow...

[Sea of Time]

Liek OMG!! :o
That is exactly how I feel about games! Guess what I did? I tried sports games and now I'm happy! You should too. Seriously, if you know the sport it's fun. As long as it's made by EA, if it's not you're wasting your time.

That's right, you heard me 2K Sports, your games suck.

[Someone Else]

Maybe I will. I'm a little skeptical about wasting some cash on a game I may not like though. (and I know I'm being a hypocrite XP) I'm not too much of a football fan, so maybe I should get a Soccer game instead.

Do they make Badminton games?? XP;

[Sea of Time]

What console system(s) do you have?

[Someone Else]

PSP, DS, GBA, GBA SP...

Uhh.

That's it. XP; My parents are concerned about getting a TV-console. My dad is interested in getting an Xbox 360 since it's in HD and we got an HDTV fairly recently. Since then, he's been obsessed with anything HD. Don't ask me why... *shrugs*

[Sea of Time]

OK, I'm not sure if there is any good soccer games on any of those systems, but your best bet would probably be to look at PSP titles. FIFA is always good but it hasn't changed much in the last few years. If you do get a tv console, look into Winning Eleven, that's supposed to be a great soccer series.

[My Best Wishes]

Don't you have an Gamecube?

Get Fifa 06, but a handheld wouldn't do it justice.

Dam SoT beat me to it.

ummm i advise againest sport games on the DS, i bought Madden 2005 and the graphics and gameplay suckedddddddddddd. If you're going soccer: Fifa, Pro evolution or world 11 are good. If you want NFL anything other then Madden is a waste.

This post has been edited by watch: 13 January 2006 - 07:17 PM

[Someone Else]

Nay, I don't have a Gamecube. Wish I did though, even though I know it sucks on many levels. I've gotta play Wind Waker...

[Sea of Time]

I'm thinking now and FIFA for the PSP might not be the greatest idea because the wide view makes it nearly impossible to see the players.

[My Best Wishes]

A friend of a friend of mine..Na :o. My mate has it and he loves it, i'm seeing him soon so i try it and get back to you. You could just google them though.

[Sea of Time]

Winning Eleven is a better series because it doesn't put that wide view into such dramatic effect. The players are much easier to see and the controls are much more fluent and you feel like the players are actually playing soccer and not hockey.

[My Best Wishes]

Yea, i played Fifa 06 on Xbox and they have done away with the closeish up diagonal view and did it almost fully horizontal. I don't want to play games from the sidelines!

[Sea of Time]

I agree. The diagonal view actually let you see in front of you :o

The topic is about PSP vs DS everyone - Eugine

This post has been edited by Eugine: 13 January 2006 - 07:42 PM

[Laharl]

Fools!! You should be played PES, which is much better than FIFA yet gets outsold by it, i fail to see the logic

[Blink]

WD, I suggest picking up a Revo, which is looking more and more like it'll support widescreen, but no HD. Then you can get the BC for Windwaker, any of the classic N64 games, NES/SNES games as well, plus you'll get to play even more Nintendo games online.

I do think that, back on topic, the Revolution will be a lot like the DS, in that it'll have easy online, with a somewhat limited feel in some games, and total freedom in others. It'll be a bit dormant the first 6 months, and then the good games will pile out.

The PS3 on the other hand, I think, will go the way of the PSP. Absolutely nothing new. Everything will be a port of Xbox 360 titles, meaning it's graphics won't be used to their fullest, and a few Final Fantasty/Sly/Jack titles as well. Even GTA seems to be jumping ship.

[Someone Else]

The PS3 will probably be the topseller though. Alot of people really love Sony, and the new features included in it will just make the PSP fanboy-crowd love it even more.

[Eugine]

People will buy the PS3 just because it supports Blu-ray which is the next-gen format and HD. MS is making its HD-DVD player an add-on which would make people dislike the Xbox 360 even more.

All in all, the PS3 wouldn't be bought by gamers only it will be bought buy Games, movie freaks, people who want to switch to Next-Gen, anyone who deals with entertainment.
Revolution on the other hand will only be bought by gamers.

This principle is the same for the PSP. The only difference is Sony says the PSP is a gaming machine, while Sony says the PS3 is an entertainment machine.

This still wouldn't determine who wins anyway.

[Someone Else]

Eugine- I notice your sig. I'd like to make a comment.

Sony haven't made much change really (among the Playstation series). I mean, PS2 uses the same controller as the PS1 did for crying out loud. :P

EDIT: Hey whoa, since when did we have 15 members around??

[Sea of Time]

As far as the PS2 controller is concerned, Sony just went with what worked, even if there wasn't a redesign, the right analog stick is much more accessible than the GC's c-stick.

[Someone Else]

S'ppose so. iono.

Hey SOT, just a question. If the DS' redesign was sexy enough for ya, would you CONSIDER getting a DS?

[Sea of Time]

If more WiFi games are released, that are better than just the three titles out now, I just might consider getting one. But I want a Revo more and I'm not made of money.

[Eugine]

THE DS IS AWESOME!! AS YOU ALL CAN SEE IM NOT AS ACTIVE ON HERE AS BEFORE. THIS IS BECAUSE OF MY DS!!

If the DS and PSP was same price though I'd get a PSP instead.

[Someone Else]

I'm glad ya like it, man. But I guess some people just like the PSP idea more than the DS.

Not everyone wants an entertainment device though. Like me, I just wanna play games, dammit! :P

[My Best Wishes]

Sea_of_Time, on Jan 17 2006, 04:31 AM, said:

As far as the PS2 controller is concerned, Sony just went with what worked, even if there wasn't a redesign, the right analog stick is much more accessible than the GC's c-stick.

The above post rates at 10/10.

Lol Eugine:If the DS and PSP was same price though I'd get a PSP instead.

Hmmmm, it appears i do not get the most out of my psp and ds, is there a device that i can attach/program i can download so that my internet can be used by my psp/ds anywhere in the house? Because so far the only way i can do that is to go down to my local shopping centre and sit outside a computer store where they have wireless internet, although i don't like looking like a tool.

[Someone Else]

Get a router like NETGEAR.

[My Best Wishes]

Is that a physical device or a program? Also links to purchase, ebay etc, would be appreciated.

[Someone Else]

It's a physical device.

http://www.netgear.com/

[Sea of Time]

watch, on Jan 16 2006, 05:58 PM, said:

The above post rates at 10/10.

As for the PSP, the analog stick is awkward and hard to reach. I mistook it for a speaker when I first played my friend's.

[Eugine]

OMFG!!! I THOUGHT IT WAS A SPEAKER ALSO!!!

Anyway, my friends play NES games and such on their PSP, I don't know how they do it. All I know they do. AND THEY GET THEM FREE!

^ Is why I'd get a PSP on price drop.

[Sea of Time]

Yeah, it's still way too expensive. I'm not paying 300 bucks! Maybe 200, but definitely not the price point it's at now.

[My Best Wishes]

Eugine, on Jan 18 2006, 08:05 AM, said:

Anyway, my friends play NES games and such on their PSP, I don't know how they do it. All I know they do. AND THEY GET THEM FREE!

^ Is why I'd get a PSP on price drop.

That's why I bought my PSP. They're emulaters and roms thats all, new PSP's can't play them because Sony's new firmware hasn't been hacked yet, well it has but only very basic games, like tetris.

[Blade Lord Lyn]

Actually, Sony's marketing strategy for the PSP is kind of. . . dumb.

"It's like a nut, that you can use outside."

Either really deep, or just stupid.

[Golden Legacy]

Just as an update and reference point, The Magic Box has released figures for both the Nintendo DS and PSP in Japan for 2005.

DS: 4 million units
PSP: 2.2 million units

Only 2005 figures. Total in Japan, DS exceeds 5 million, not to sure about the PSP, but I'm sure it wouldn't be over 2.5 million or so.

[Eugine]

World wide I think the PSP sold like 10million and DS 13... OR 6million to PSP and 13million to DS... Can't remember.

[Golden Legacy]

Here is an important distinction; Sony has shipped over 10 million PSP units, but that does not mean it has actually sold through all of them. In fact, I believe your second estimate of 6 million worldwide as of the end of 2005 is more accurate.

On the other hand, the DS has sold over 13 million units. A rough breakdown is 5 million Japan, 3 million Europe, 3~4 million units in North America, and the remaining units elsewhere.

[Someone Else]

Ain't it illegal to play NES games on PSP for free?

Not that anyone cares, I certainly don't. :blink:

But that's like saying that a PC is better than a DS because it play NES and SNES games for free, really. (of course, a PC IS better than a DS)

EDIT: Exactly how do you play NES/SNES games on the PSP anyway? How do you work it?

[My Best Wishes]

All you need is a program and a how to, this only works for firmware 2.0 and down but it's an example:clicky clicky

I follow three sites for psp news, one is psp3d.com which is the best, and one the home of the hacker 'Fanjita', the other Anubis gave me which is alright but not as good as psp3d.

[Sea of Time]

Nintendo has much more fans than Sony does, no matter where you look. For the DS to sell much more than the PSP could almost be expected before it was even launched.

[Someone Else]

That's weird, since eveyone at my school loves the PSP, and hates the DS.

[Eugine]

LOL'd. People hate the DS at my school.

But I make my OWN decisions, that what makes me ME, I don't go by what's hype at school.

This post has been edited by Eugine: 18 January 2006 - 05:33 PM

[Someone Else]

The PSP is officially a status object...

And this also PROVES that it is now "cool" to hate Nintendo. It's stupid when you think about it.

[NuMou Sniper]

I definetly prefer the DS over the PSP. Because I prefer a better gaming library than special features. Not to mention if I wanted to watch videos or play music on my DS I could import the Play Yan and it would still be cheaper than the PSP :blink:

[Blink]

Wind Dude, on Jan 18 2006, 05:33 PM, said:

The PSP is officially a status object...

And this also PROVES that it is now "cool" to hate Nintendo. It's stupid when you think about it.

Not at my school :blink:

We actually think of the PSP as a fragile, don't bring it to school, got enough money for it, object.

The DS on the other hand, is the fun, universal, multiplayer handheld that everyone has, and allows for 8 player Mario Kart. We were supposed to all meet out in the ampitheater today during the optional liturgy(catholic school. I kinda skip those if they aren't Holy Days of Obligation[things the church says you ought to go to]), but we got rained out, so only two people showed up for it, compared to the 6 or so last time(day after Mario Kart DS's launch, mind you). But yeah, we all enjoy it, and if you ask someone if they have a PSP..."I'm not made of money here!"

[Aquamarine]

You sure have a great school Blink! No one at my school actually thinks the DS is crap. They have a certain degree of respect for it. But most of them still think the PSP is better, which I totally disagree with.
I really can't understand people who would buy a PSP over a DS. If someone's got enough money I can understand him buying BOTH, but only the PSP...
The most important thing in the video game industry are video games. Heck, that's why it's called the video game industry and not the graphics and accesory's industry! The DS rules at quality video games and over time will rule yet more. THAT is the only thing a person should think about and the best reason to get a DS and not a PSP! The only reason someone would get a PSP instead of a DS is the film amd music... playing... thingies. But almost everyone in the world now has a DVD and MP3 player! If you want to buy the PSP for the better graphics and audio, than it's better to just purchase a home console, which is even better at that point of view. If someone only want's to get a PSP because it's more expensive, to show off a bit, then that person is a downright idiot!
Guess what I voted for. ;)

[Someone Else]

I wish my school were a bit more like yours, Blink.

And dude, Aquamarine, I completely agree with you. But the PSP appeals to different people than the DS does, so...

I've actually come to the conclusion that it's pointless to compare and contrast the DS from the PSP. The two are so different, they're practically a different species from each other. I'd talk a bit more about how and why, but I am tired right now. I might talk more later,

[NuMou Sniper]

Wind Dude said:

I've actually come to the conclusion that it's pointless to compare and contrast the DS from the PSP. The two are so different, they're practically a different species from each other. I'd talk a bit more about how and why, but I am tired right now. I might talk more later,

I agree entirely.

I said that to kids in my school who saw me playing m DS. They kept sayign the PSP was better then i told them to shut their mouths cuz you truly can't compare the too. Now if you imported the Play Yan for the DS then they'd be fully comparable. They are only truly comparable gamewise, and the DS comes out the winner, in my opinion, there. Because who wants to buy games that have been out for like 5 years adn are getting repeated. Why waste your money. In my opinion all the PSP is a money sucker. All it is is a portable version of a console that has been out for 5 years with repeat games.

[Sea of Time]

I agree, how can you compare a machine that plays all types of media with one that only plays games and has a touch screen! If you say it like that, it is impossible to choose.

[Someone Else]

The two screens already marks it as an individual in the gaming world. But that's a good thing, really.

[Sea of Time]

It's an outcast, lonely and cold. If it was made by Sega, it would be off the shelves by now.

[Someone Else]

Er, when you say off the shelves, do you mean selling GOOD or BAD?

How many times do I have to say it, the DS is a GOOD system.

[Sea of Time]

Off the shelves as in not being sold anymore (guess that was confusing).

[Someone Else]

XD At SOT's sig

I guess everyone that wanted a PSP has it now? *shrug*

Anyway, the PSP isn't as fragile as everyone makes it out to be. Last night, my PSP fell out of my shelf. The battery charger was hooked up near my floor, and was charging my PSP. The battery charger is a bit heavy and was dragging my PSP until it fell out of my shelf. It was a good 4-5 foot fall, and a rather nasty one. When I picked it back up, I examined it. It looked fine, so I turned it on, and it still worked. I took it with me to school today and it didn't break or scratch (although I had put it in a special pocket that would suit the PSP/DS's size almost perfectly).

So from now on, I'm going to bring my PSP to school much more often. Don't say that it breaks easily unless it's actually happened to you. It's not NEARLY as tough as the DS, but it's still fairly sturdy.

[Sea of Time]

Did...did you just support the PSP?

I would agree with you that if it hasn't happened to you, then you shouldn't argue your case using that point. I don't recall ever using the "fragile" case to prove that I don't like the PSP, and if I did, I apologize.

[Someone Else]

Heh. XD Well I never disliked the PSP, but I do get a bit irritated at the number of fanboys it has that hate the DS, so I do tend to bash the PSP in support of the DS. But it certainly seems like I don't like it.

Well, I do want to get a case to protect my PSP. Like I've said before the face of the PSP is stylish, but it's too easily smudged, which looks... ugly, and makes it seem like you have dirty hands. XP;

[Sea of Time]

You can take it with you anywhere, but if I owned one, it would never leave my house. I'm almost a neat freak when it comes to my gaming systems. And to anyone who's seen my GBA, that's why I say almost. I always want to keep the screen clean. <_<

[Someone Else]

lol, my GBA screen is scratched (mostly from the same accident that scratched the back of my DS' Top Screen) and permanently smudged. Thank god that Nintendo thought of foldable portable consoles to stop stuff like that.

[My Best Wishes]

Yea, after the horrible condition i left my SP in i'm a freak with my consoles. First thing for my DS was a case, first thing for my PSP was a case <_< WD, if you're going to get a screen protecter, don't. 9/10 people I've talked to have done more damage to their PSP trying to get it on and off then it actually prevents. And i've dropped my PSP but in a case, but yea after dropping it and seeing it didn't brake i'm a little more lax with it.

[Someone Else]

Hmm, I've seen the case before and I thought it was a bit... odd looking. I'll check out some user reviews on it from Amazon.

Wait, are we talking about this one?

[Laharl]

ouch, i got one of those for gba for £1 and it did prevent my second gba sharing the same fate as my first.

[Sea of Time]

Laharl's sig is XD!

Anyways, I got a protector for my GBA that doubles as a light! How do you like them apples! And it didn't scratch my screen!

[Someone Else]

Ever since I got Burnout Legends for the PSP (yesterday XD) it doesn't bother me as much that the kids at my school are all PSP Fanboys and hate the DS. It still annoys me a little, but I can deal it with it now that I've ACTUALLY got a REALLY good game for my PSP.

[Toasty64]

Wind Dude, on Jan 7 2006, 07:01 PM, said:

Argh, I forgot to mention that the DS has no Analog Stick while the PSP does!!

Seriously, this is the one thing that really puts me down about the DS. They could've (and should've) put an Analog Stick right under the D Pad, just like PSP's...

Acyually, they could not have stuck an analog stick on it, keep in mind that the DS is foldable, if they put the joystick too far in, they wouldn't have enough room for the electronics, if it poped out too much, the DS wouldn't close. Nintendo probably disputed over this, and decided to go with the touch screen because in some games(Super Mario DS) it can be used just like an analog stick, and they can also use it for much,much more than just movement. This was also probably one of their first disputes,most likely after they decided to make it foldable so that it had an angle and after they decided it was going to have two screens, if they added an analog stick, it wouldn't be nearly asentertaining as a touch screen. They also would have to make it foldable if it had two screens because would you really buy a portable system that was big? It's just more logical to make it foldable, especially since it adds more protection.

[Someone Else]

Do you own a DS?

There is a part of the DS that goes a bit inward on both sides of the lower half of the DS. Because of this, an Analog Nub could have been put in, and the DS could still fold up.

[Toasty64]

Wind Dude, on Feb 1 2006, 05:50 PM, said:

Do you own a DS?

There is a part of the DS that goes a bit inward on both sides of the lower half of the DS. Because of this, an Analog Nub could have been put in, and the DS could still fold up.

Actually I do, got an electric blue last Christmas. I learned a lot of what I know about both consols before I chose one, the main reason I chose the DS is the games. I'm actually surprised at Sony. I really thought they would have more games, especially since they've always had the largest library of games. And I really don't think that little lip would provide enough space for an analog stick. And for the future, if I make a statement that makes me sound like a nintendo fanboy, I'm not. I also know quite alot about both systems even if I don't own a PSP, since I've read alot about each one on the net, and I've played both. I have to admit though, the PSP screen is VERY clear. Also, why have an analog nub when you can have a touch screen? Way more controll with the screen

This post has been edited by Toasty64: 01 February 2006 - 06:04 PM

[Someone Else]

My hand always gets in the way of the touch screen when I use it. Can't see that much.

Anyways, the PSP's Analog Nub isn't that tall, and if the Nintendo DS got an Analog Nub at the same size on the PSP, it would fit fine.

[Toasty64]

The Ds fits me perfectly, and this topic isn't about joysticks, so lets just stay at you think what you think, and I'll think what I think. But, if they did put in a nub, it would have to be pretty small to fit if it could at all.

[My Best Wishes]

Toasty64, on Feb 2 2006, 11:02 AM, said:

Actually I do, got an electric blue last Christmas. I learned a lot of what I know about both consols before I chose one, the main reason I chose the DS is the games. I'm actually surprised at Sony. I really thought they would have more games, especially since they've always had the largest library of games.

Wow wow wow

My DS-
Had for nearly 2 years
4 games, one was free.

My PSP-
Had for a little over a month
5 real games and a Snes emulator+ alot of other homebrew.

Ds
Been out for nearly a year.*
Psp
Been out for 4 months.*

*-Aus realease.

[Someone Else]

Naw, I still prefer the DS line up to the PSP's.

[TheEnglishman]

I know what you mean. With the exception of GTA and maybe Burnout there aren't many games that really stick out much. The DS has a good selection but I guess you have to accept that the graphics aren't as good as PSP. It works out pretty fairly in the end.
And that's 501!

This post has been edited by Me111: 02 February 2006 - 01:53 PM

[Someone Else]

Toasty64, on Feb 1 2006, 07:12 PM, said:

The Ds fits me perfectly, and this topic isn't about joysticks, so lets just stay at you think what you think, and I'll think what I think. But, if they did put in a nub, it would have to be pretty small to fit if it could at all.

I ain't arguing with you. And the PSP's Analog Nub is small. Get a PSP. XD

Anyway, I don't think that any emulated games should count as a "PSP game". C'mon, with that sort of logic you might as well not buy a PSP or a DS. Instead, just get PSP and DS emulators on a PC or a laptop. From the looks of it, it looks rather complicated to get emulators to work on the PSP anyway. Can the PSP run ROMs? (I don't think it can if I remember)

[Toasty64]

I don't think it can, even ROM's the size of GC disks wouldn't fit in it, unless your talking about running it through the computer, but that'd be pointless(PSP, stands for Playstation PORTABLE, not ment to run off computer).

And ME111, I think you mean 411.

This post has been edited by Toasty64: 03 February 2006 - 07:38 PM

[TheEnglishman]

Toasty64, on Feb 4 2006, 01:36 AM, said:

And ME111, I think you mean 411.

No that was my 501 post in the forum.

This post has been edited by Me111: 04 February 2006 - 02:10 AM

[Toasty64]

Me111, on Feb 4 2006, 02:09 AM, said:

No that was my 501 post in the forum.

Ah, I see what you mean.

[Sea of Time]

I don't care how many illegal games you can get for your PSP. The DS's lineup of games is better! You shouldn't even be counting ROM's in the picture of comparing the game systems.

Not that I favor the DS, I dislike these systems equally. XD

[Eugine]

Where DS come from isn't all that great
Its structure is a piece of crap
Its fashion sense is a little whack
And my friends are just as screwy as it

It didn't go to CES
Preppy girls never looked at it
Why should they it ain't nobody
Got nothing in its game library...

Yeh, ****ty rip of from Beverly Hills - Weezers... I was going to do the PSP, but the DS rhymed more with the beat :huh:

[Someone Else]

Ew. Just... ew.

Are you trying to say something about the DS? XD

Anyway something weird happened with my PSP yesterday. Okay, so one day I was playing Burnout. I went to the Main Menu, and turned off my power. Next day, I wanted to log into the internet through my PSP, so I picked it back up and turned the power on. Just in case you don't know, the PSP "remembers" what you had open the last time you turned off your power. So when I turned on my PSP it had Burnout's Main Menu loaded. I pressed the HOME button to go back to the PSP's main menus, but my PSP paused for a few seconds and then went to this weird error screen that said in a variety of languages about some error and how I should press [circle] to re-enter all my system settings.

So, my PSP went back to all the crap about entering the date, time, timezone, username and blah. My memory card remembers everything of course, but all my PSP's memory was gone. So I had to re-enter all my access points, wallpaper and... just about everything else that the memory card doesn't save. It wasn't THAT big of a deal, but it's still a little annoying.

Oh yeah, and about a week ago my PSP took another spill onto my bedroom floor, same height. I REALLY wish that the battery charge for the PSP was more like the DS'. The charger is actually into two parts. Like this:

(NOT DRAWN TO SCALE)

http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/5034/example8ug.jpg

The actual battery charger is the big square thing at the end of the upper cord shown, it weighs my PSP down and, eventually, making it fall. I found a way to stop it, but I still wish I didn't have to deal with it.

[Sea of Time]

Eugine, you scare me sometimes.

And WD, are you proving with diagrams now that the PSP sucks? Haha, just kidding.

[Someone Else]

Naw. I doubt most people do what I do and have their PSPs up 5-4 feet in a shelf, and charging it up that way.

Actually, I've mostly been playing my PSP these days. I still prefer the DS, but I'm just taking a medium break (meaning I still go on, to make sure residents don't move) from Animal Crossing, and I'm stuck on one mission in Advance Wars. And I'm not into RPGs at the moment so I haven't been playing Mario & Luigi.

[Sea of Time]

There is going to be a Resident Evil game for the DS coming out this month. Maybe you want to try it.

[TheEnglishman]

I think the Resi game is a remake of one of the older ones. I don't know though.
I'm too poor to buy anything at the moment. I'm in debt and I said I wouldn't buy any games until I had paid the DS off. I'm starting to regret that now. :huh:

[Sea of Time]

It probably has the same style as the old ones (not Resident Evil 4) but it is probably an original story.

[Someone Else]

Sea_of_Time, on Feb 9 2006, 06:18 AM, said:

There is going to be a Resident Evil game for the DS coming out this month. Maybe you want to try it.

...

I can't play M games. Sad, I know.

[Sea of Time]

I can't either. I'm missing so much with RE4, I know. I keep trying to convince my parents. 2 more years, 2 more years, 2 more years....

[TheEnglishman]

Unfortunate. Over here the age rating is a 15 for it. You'll have to get it from here!

[Blink]

Over in Blighty? I do not know of blighty...or is that a pirate joke?

Just tell them you want to give it a try, since it's been rated as the second best game that was ever made, ever, by more than one major reviewing company. Tell them it's pretty much game of the year. And, if you can't get it like that...just download the demo when it comes to the PC :huh:

[Someone Else]

Blink, on Feb 10 2006, 01:38 PM, said:

Over in Blighty? I do not know of blighty...or is that a pirate joke?

I assumed it was a reference for World War I. Although for some reason, I always think that Me111 lives in Australia. *shrugeth*

[TheEnglishman]

It's basically what some people call Britain. Ah forget it. It looks stupid and I'll just change it back.
And as for you Wind Dude... :huh:

[Blink]

Meh, for someone in California, Me111, WD and I can't tell Britain and Austrailia very well apart. :P

You've got English closer tied to Austrailia's than to the United States's. Makes sense since Austrailia was closer tied to Britain...with that whole "OMG NO PHAIR HAXORS TAXORZ" thing, leading to the big seperation.

[Someone Else]

Yeah, basically. I did a bit more research on "Blighty!" and I decided that Me111 must've lived somewhere in the UK, but meh.

Anyway, after playing Halo a bit on the PC (and I played Halo 2 over at my friend's place today) is there any reason to play any other shooter game? They're all pretty much the same. (I know I'm being a little ignorant)

[Blink]

With the exception that some have more balanced systems than others, some give different vibes, some have vehicles, some have better gameplay modes, and some are just more fun.

[Sea of Time]

Me111, you need new catch-phrases.

And I tried that "best game reviewed ever" thing and it didn't work (tried a long time ago, not when you told me to).

[Someone Else]

Avast, ye PSP Fanboys who say the DS needs to do more things to do. I have news for ye.

http://www.goldensun-syndicate.net/forum/i...?showtopic=7811

[Someone Else]

Dubba' post.

Anyone think the PSP is taking a fall? I mean, they're not selling UMD movies anymore.

Meanwhile, the DS is getting a web browser and a Media Player (see above post).


It's a shame about the UMD movies. I was hoping to get LOTR UMDs. XD But... hopefully this'll mean that the PSP will finally get to making better games.

[My Best Wishes]

I've ALWAYS thought the umd movies were a bad idea. One: They cost pretty close to or more then the dvd and can only be used on the psp. Two: A hardcore PSPer would have a big memory stick, at least big enough for homebrew and some other odds and ends.

Yes and hopefully sony gets some better realeases out soon. *Hopeing(sp?) for a Final Fantasy <_< *

[Sea of Time]

I've decided to get a DS!

Why? Because I want to play Polarium and I want to play my GBA games on the same system. And with the Web Browser on the horizon, the DS looks like it has a brighter future than the PSP.

[Eugine]

Wind Dude you are incorrect. They never said they are stop selling UMD films, they simply said they were cutting back on production since demand isn't great. When the PSP penetration starts to increase (when the PS3 comes out) they will increase production once again. The PS3 guarantees the PSP success. Also films being brought onto the PSP will never cease, Sony owns major movie producing companies and Sony stop publicizing the PSP? NOT GONNA HAPPEN.

Anyway, SoT - I might say the DS is in fact better than the PSP now, but eventually the PSP will out edge the DS. Why might I say this…?? HMM...

When the PS3 is released and the Playstation Online service kicks up (Rumoured Playstation HUB), people will be buying PSPs like crazy to enjoy the benefits. What benefits?
The fact that Sony is launching a location-free service in which you can view your home television anywhere in the world at good quality will cause demand to increase... If you do business you'd know as demand goes up prices go down... PSP price drop right there…
When the PS3 is released this year (hopefully) there will definitely be ports of all games coming to the PSP. When there’s a PS3 exclusive game there will be a PSP exclusive game… Unlock extra content using the PSP; bring it over to your PS3. Oh! The possibilities…
With the Playstation HUB downloading movies, trailers, games, music – anything possible will be superb on the PSP, and with the PSP quality graphics and good internet capabilities setting up an online service for the PSP which intertwines the PS3 will also cause the DS to be out edged…
ALSO, might I say it is rumoured that a new PSP will be released which has a built in camera?
That’s it for now, I’d write more, but tired typing.

[Echo_djinn]

PSP > DS. The only problem is that there isn't a lot of great games for the PSP or atleast games I would want to play.

[Blink]

DS > PSP.

What the heck do five letters and a math symbol mean Echo Djinn? Not much, not much at all. I say the DS is better because it gives range for more games with greater control over the situation.

Eugine on the other hand, makes a lot of good points. And yet, I think that if that happens, things will backfire for Sony, because Nintendo will come out with something even bigger to counter it, something gamers will enjoy more. Your Retro games on the go. Imagine buying a single $35 cart that lets you download all of your Nintendo Revolution SNES and NES games that you've got on your 512 MB of flash memory on the Revolution. It couldn't expand into the N64 market, because that would destroy the port market they set up with SM64DS, and the lack of sufficient buttons. On the other hand, being able to take all your downloaded SNES and NES games on the go? I dunno how the screen resolution would turn out on the DS, considering the major differences between a DS and a normal TV screen, but I think the low resolution of an SNES/NES game would make it possible.

Not to mention that they could use the same disk for DS demo downloads that you could then save on your Revo's memory, so long as you kept your DS on til you got home.

And Eugine, you can't really say the PSP has better internet capabilities than the DS, considering that the DS is going to have a touch screen browser, and it has a touch type keyboard for games like Animal Crossing in order to have in game chatting. It may not be able to do in game voice yet, I don't know if the PSP can, but it's really got better chances at the online world since it has better standard means of interaction. Don't you have to buy a microphone seperate from your PSP to play Socom online or whatnot?

Also, if it's about a rumored PS3 HUB...I'm quite doubting it will happen, a lot of which is because Sony's been cutting back on things like the wireless router capabilities on the PS3 for PSP to connect online, or whatever that was. I do like how Nintendo is going to make that USB Ethernet cable adapter for the Revolution, and then allow DS users to play games online through the Revo's wifi if they don't have a wireless router in their home.

And what's this TV anywhere thing? I've never heard a single thing about this before...is this another "rumor" about the PS3? I'd hold the majority of next gen console rumors for the PS3 and the Revolution on the same level...all total speculation.

[Sea of Time]

Right now, I would have to say

DS > PSP

and here's why:

The DS just flat out has better games right now and most likely in the future as well. Most of the PSP games are decent on that system, but when comparisons are drawn between the PSP games and the console counterparts, (which they should be because of the similar graphics), the console games come out looking much better. Also, with the web browser on the way for the DS, the PSP no longer has that edge over it anymore. There are three reasons to buy a PSP. Best portable sports ever. Watch movies. Listen to music on the same system. Other than that, the DS trumps the PSP and Sony hasn't given me a great example of anything else.

[Blink]

Oh my...

THQ's WWE SmackDown! Vs. RAW 2006 has a game name as long as it's loading time. It's got less than one word in the title per minute of load time from starting the PSP to getting into your first match. No matter who you support, this is pretty bad, and funny. xD

[Sea of Time]

*shakes head* I agree with the guy that commented, THQ should be ashamed. However, at least the loading screen captivated interest.

[My Best Wishes]

Blink, on Feb 25 2006, 12:41 PM, said:

Your Retro games on the go. Imagine buying a single $35 cart that lets you download all of your Nintendo Revolution SNES and NES games that you've got on your 512 MB of flash memory on the Revolution. It couldn't expand into the N64 market, because that would destroy the port market they set up with SM64DS, and the lack of sufficient buttons. On the other hand, being able to take all your downloaded SNES and NES games on the go?

Or you could just download emulators that run on the psp and have gba and snes and N64 games on the go. The DS is to the PSP as the Gamecube was to everything else.

Eugine: PSPworld has rounded up some interesting tips from an 'anonymous source'. This source claims to have solid information that the next PSP, dubbed currently as PSP 2, will have a built-in camera, be capable of streaming live video to the PS3, and will have an initial 4GB storage built-in, contrary to recent reports of 8GB NAND on the first generation PSP 2. Supposedly, it will also be available in three colors: black, white, and silver. We wouldn't be surprised if this information is in fact what the specifications of the PSP 2 will be, but these are just anonymous tips, so they shouldn't be fully trusted until an official press release is out by Sony.



"The next version of Sony's PSP will sport an integrated digital video camera that will allow users to stream live video to the Playstation 3, according to an anonymous source. The feature, which will utilize the PSP's Wi-Fi support, will be marketed as the new way to chat with friends while on the go.

According to the tipster, the "PSP 2" will also gain the recently rumored NAND flash storage, though the first generation of the new model will only be available with 4GB instead of the 8GB currently speculated. Sony will also trim approximately a quarter of inch from the device, and offer it in three color choices — black, white and silver.

The source claims that the tiny camera will be an off-the-shelf stock unit that is currently being used in several Sony Ericsson mobile phones, and will also allow users to take still photos, in addition to video. Its placement will be directly below the PSP's screen, where the "PSP" logo can currently be found."


Nothing offical has been said about the PSP2

[Golden Legacy]

A potential PSP2? When the original PSP model has been on the market for barely a year? That seems fairly dubious.

Yes, you might point out that Nintendo is doing the same with the DS, but remember, that's more of a redesign of the system's casing, and increase in brightness, than anything else.

Even if such a device is being planned by Sony, it wouldn't be prudent to release it this year. How can people possibly afford a PS3 AND a PSP (2)?

[Eugine]

Some people buy every game that comes out. Plus with all the benefits that comes with having both the PS3 and PSP people will flock for them both.

The 10 million + and going PSP users that will be there when the PS3 comes out will buy a PS3 simply because of the advantages that will be unlocked when having both.

Some people just love the PS but haven't trust the portable just yet might just buy the PS3, so lets just open mindly say that there's atleat 100 million candidates for the PS3 already...

When you buy the PS3 the advantages of owning a PSP will come into the mind and you'll buy the PSP... Sony has it planned out beautifully.

Right now, the only thing I think will kill the PS model is the price of the PS3.

[Blink]

Eugine, on Feb 25 2006, 05:23 PM, said:

Right now, the only thing I think will kill the PS model is the price of the PS3.

If I'm already "working more hours" for an Xbox 360, how the heck am I going to afford a PS3?

Yeah, I dunno. It sounds scary, but I think if the PS3 does well, we'll see at least one $1k console gen after next/this.

[Eugine]

True, prices for new products seem to be soaring each generation...

[Split Infinity]

You can buy cars nowadays that are cheaper than some of today's top-of-the-line consoles, especially computers.

[TheEnglishman]

I wish they'd slow down a bit. How am I meant to buy a console that costs over £200 plus games, when I get £15 a month in pocket money?

[Blink]

I hope Nintendo sells their cheap and affordable console well, that'll encourage MS and Sony to sell cheap consoles next gen after this.

[Sea of Time]

This is exactly why I'm going to get a DS, then jump the console ship. I don't want to continually pay more for console systems. All I really wanted in the Rev was online play, and I can get that for the DS.

[Someone Else]

In my opinion the PSP - PS3 benefits are all crap anyway, or at least what I've heard from Eugine. I mean, if you've got a computer (XD Who here DOESN'T have a computer??) you can just do all the stuff at home, and probably in better quality.

You'll argue that the PSP's portability let's you view this stuff on-the-go... but so far, the only reason I've stored images to view them on-the-go was to show this funny image to my friends at school. I still believe that the PSP is mostly a status object/tech geek object/Sony fanboy object than anything else at this time, at least until it gets better games. I mean, come on. XD REALLY THINK before you shout at me. Would you really use any of the other features on the PSP that much?

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Wind Dude you are incorrect. They never said they are stop selling UMD films, they simply said they were cutting back on production since demand isn't great. When the PSP penetration starts to increase (when the PS3 comes out) they will increase production once again. The PS3 guarantees the PSP success. Also films being brought onto the PSP will never cease, Sony owns major movie producing companies and Sony stop publicizing the PSP? NOT GONNA HAPPEN.

Name these "major movie producing" companies for me.

[Eugine]

Sony owns "Columbia Pictures Entertainment" & "Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer" (MGM). You should atleast know one of them...
If you don't know, Sony produced hit movies like James Bond & Spider-Man. There's a hell load of good movies Sony produced... I can get a list if you want, but that isn't important.

Anyway, what are you talking about? Sony PSP is the ideal portable entertainment machine, just a few days ago me and my friends were watching Naruto in school lol.
And... Since Sony dominates the music & movie industry Sony will offer exclusive content to their online service making people flock to it even more.

Read up on Wikipedia if you need to know more about Sony's dominance in the entertainment division.

[Someone Else]

I though Apple dominated the music industry with their iPods. Actually, if you wanted to watch TV on-the-go I'd get an iPod Video, but I don't want that either.

I blame Hitler. XD

I'm still not convinced as to why you would want to use other features on the PSP. If you want to go out (away from home) aren't you going to do things that don't involve sitting on your butt? O_o And how dare you watch TV in school. XP;;

You're pushing the PSP's success on the PSP - PS3 exclusive content, when people could easily just post this "exclusive" content elsewhere on the internet. People do this all the time. Also, Nintendo had a lot of GBA - GC content for games too, but this didn't really increase sales in the GBA/GBA - GC Link cable that much.

[Sea of Time]

The PSP can be a controller for the PS3 without a cable, so that's an added bonus. Also, the GBA-GC cable only really allowed unlockables to be found (other than Four Swords). Also the GBA was a bad version of the GC controller. Eugine has a point. The connectivity is done better for the PSP and PS3 then Nintendo did.

[Eugine]

Nintendo did a bad job at making people aware of the GC-GBA connectivity or even did anything extreme to it for that matter. The PSP/PS3 seems like it will be doing it perfect.

Also, you say about people posting exclusive content on the internet... yes, people do it, people do everything illegally these days, if you're true to Sony you wouldn't do these things.

Finally, I was talking about the record labelling company at Sony, didn't point that out. It currently has around 25% market share there...

[My Best Wishes]

I'm not sure if I've ever stated why I bought my PSP:
Good games (Gta comes to mind)
Homebrew(Snes, gba N64 emulators etc)
The movie function(putting maybe family guy on a memory stick, family guy, silly clips, soccer maybe ^_^ )

I myself haven't heard much about the PSP and PS3 functions but I think that sony will do it better.

[Someone Else]

Chances are the real PlayStation controller would be better suited. 'Sides, the PSP doesn't have L2 or R2, so it's missing two buttons.

[Sea of Time]

Compared to how many buttons the GBA was missing in comparison to the GC though, the PSP is much better off.

[Someone Else]

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Also, you say about people posting exclusive content on the internet... yes, people do it, people do everything illegally these days, if you're true to Sony you wouldn't do these things.

Lemme ask you something. If Nintendo were to suddenly become what Sony is today, with an "NP" (Nintendo Portable) in place of a PSP, and a NES3 in place of PS3, would you "remain loyal" to Nintendo and not post exclusive content on the internet given by Nintendo's online?

Besides, posting of exclusive content given by Sony would not count as being illegal. People can, say, post content from an e-mail newsletter from Apple on the internet and no one would care.

[Eugine]

Posting a newsletter is totally different from posting videos, exclusive content, games demo, music, movie demos which are exclusive to Sony.

About the Nintendo thing, let me make a broad post. I was never, I stress never loyal to any game company. Yes I love Sony but right now I'm in for my gratification... If not I would not have gotten a DS.

[Blink]

What makes you so sure that the PS3 PSP connectivity will be any better? The only advantage I see the PSP having is a lack of a link cable. It's still a really expensive controller that doesn't work nearly as well, who's only benefit is having a secondary, personal screen, and the ability to take mini segments of your games on the go. Really, they're basically the same thing, but the PSP has more buttons and a bigger screen, with nicer graphics.

If Sony makes downloadable content that is small enough to fit on what little space you have on a reasonably priced memory card, then maybe they can do something bigger and better, like bringing save files of your character in a game with you to a friends house on the PSP, and actually be able to turn off your PSP, but other than that...

[Someone Else]

I still really doubt that anyone's going to make really "EXCLUSIVE" content for PSP - PS3. People love spreading content to make sure everyone gets to see it and know about it.

I'm not saying the PSP2 or the PSP are going to flop, but I don't think it'll be a huge gigantic, sonic BOOM of a hit.

[Sea of Time]

But neither will the DS. With the next generation on the way, these systems will be gone before you can say "My PSP rules!" Or at least, that's just what I think.

[Someone Else]

Well yeah. =/ But then again the GBA didn't slack when the GameCube came out. So I don't think either would disappear.

[Sea of Time]

Part of that is that the GC integrated the GBA partially into it. With the GB Player and the GBA/GC Link Cable, they were part of each other. Is there a possibility that the Rev can integrate the DS into a part of the gameplay?

[Someone Else]

I wouldn't be surprised if they could, but nothing's been said yet.

[Sea of Time]

After second thought, I can see an LAN connection possible, and using the touch screen as a controller could be a welcome change from the remote control.

[Someone Else]

I've still got some high hopes for the Rev's "Magic Wand" controller. The touch screen on the DS wasn't popular at first either, but it's pretty good now. I don't see a big difference with the Rev.

[Sea of Time]

"Magic Wand"? Is that your name for it? I agree, but imagine if you could combine the two. It would be extra revolutionary.

[Someone Else]

I've heard people call it Magic Wand before. Typing "Remote Control" takes longer and doesn't entirely say what it does. After all... waving it like a wand does make it do stuff. <_<

[Sea of Time]

OK, well I'm just gonna keep on calling it a remote control because 'magic wand' reminds me of Harry Potter and Harry Potter should not be related to gaming in any way.