[Water Assassin]

Lets see if I can keep this topic open for a while :blink:

Post subjects, people, text or general stuff from Golden Sun 1&2 that you think are completely weird and see if anybody else can answer them.

eg

-Why, in Kolima, a husband refuses to tell his family that he has a secret cave with zombies and the like in it. :D

-What in the world a Kimbombo warrior was planning to take nice lessons, on a Monday, when no apparent day/ night system appears in GS? :angry:

[el_Sethro]

Water Assassin, on May 28 2004, 08:35 AM, said:

-Why, in Kolima, a husband refuses to tell his family that he has a secret cave with zombies and the like in it. :(

-What in the world a Kimbombo warrior was planning to take nice lessons, on a Monday, when no apparent day/ night system appears in GS? :P

1. he doesn't. if you mind read him, he says that the secret is deep in the woods. what it is, I don't know.

2. I don't know what you're talking about. I don't mean to be rude or anything, but where does it say that?

[MysticWarrior]

>.>

<.<

I have, within my copy/paste machine, another topic exactly like this. But it's so old that it's the second oldest topic here. So I'll leave it up to Max or Julian.

The second mystery can be solved. As you can see, it's supposed to be for humor reasons, therefore it does not have to make sense. Would you rather listen to a guy saying he has to take nice lessons, or would you listen to a guy who would comment on the weather?

The treasure is deep in the Mogall Forest. It's either the apple or the elven shirt, I don't know.

[el_Sethro]

MysticWarrior, on May 29 2004, 12:28 AM, said:

The treasure is deep in the Mogall Forest. It's either the apple or the elven shirt, I don't know.

Mogall woods, eh? I thought he was talking about the fur coat in Kolima Forest, but it seemed unlikely, as it's a pretty boring item. I'll say elvin shirt, because....

"OMG! I just discovered that there's an APPLE in the woods!"

that wouldn't be very exciting.

[Neo]

why can't you run from a boss? if i would encounter a doom dragon, i would run my ass off.

[MysticWarrior]

Because it's a boss... Wouldn't be very exhilarating if you see a boss and say "I'm not healed yet, I'll battle you later" and leave.

[el_Sethro]

yeah. I'm not sure how that would work, anyway. you're atop venus lighthouse fighting saturos and Menardi and you just walk away? I think not.

[Nick Presta]

Why Kraden knows so much about Alchemy and psynergy, yet possess no psynergy.

[el_Sethro]

because he's just a regular dude, who studies alchamy. you'd think that he's come in contact with a psynergy stone eventually, though.

[Blade Lord Lyn]

Where is Garet's family? I've only seen them once, when you're about to leave Vale for the first time.

[el_Sethro]

how do you mean? they're at home in vale.......the house un the hill from your's

[Golden Legacy]

Yeah... when you return to Vale from, I think, Kalay...

His sister (who is mad about her flowers :D ) Kay, younger brother Alan, and his parents and grandparents...

Edit: Whoops, I meant Aaron... I think... Sorry...

[Blade Lord Lyn]

Oh... er.. stupid me. . .

Uh... why do they give you the choice to go to beat Dodonpa or not?

[MysticWarrior]

Because it's a sidequest.

[Water Assassin]

ah, I see new emoticons have been added to the forum. ^_^

Yes, the bosses do have no running away feature. That just wouldn't make sense for the Agatio+Karst battle.

In GS1, do you beat Tret then go to Imil or vice versa? Its interesting because you do not necessarily need Mia to beat him, just level eight characters.

Also, I mentioned this in the nostalgic moments topic. In the Lemurian Castle dealie, there is a rather funny comment about bathrobes if you search a closet. Where are the baths? <_<

[Ultimate Felix 22]

In Prox, where Felix lived for 3 years, when you look in the pot, it says something like "they're cooking meat i've never seen before" if he lived there, he would've seen it. B)

[Nick Presta]

Maybe since the earth conditions have gotten worse since 3/4 lighthouses were lit, the Proxians were forced to use new animals for meat :S

[MysticWarrior]

MAGIC!

:blink:

>_>

What? It's true! There's psynergy, and gods, why not magic? =D

[Sol's Djinn]

If Venus and Mars support each other, how come Saturos, Menardi, Agatio and Karst aren't still alive? (Being revived by the Lighthouses?)

[MysticWarrior]

Because the energy doesn't revive people, only powers them up. Also, Agatio and Karst died nowhere near Venus Lighthouse.

[Chibi_person]

they had to have been alive, and be around for the final burst of energy when all four are lit. KA and SM were already dead.

If the Mars star was tosssed into the beacon, then how did it end up with Isaac again.

[MysticWarrior]

Only the power of Mars is in Isaac, not the Mars Star itself.

[Chibi_person]

Why didn't the others get power?

[MysticWarrior]

In the beginning of GS1, The wise one imbued the power of mars into Isaac and Isaac only. :silence: You should know these things.

[Chibi_person]

It's been a long ass time since I've played early GS1

[MysticWarrior]

Been a long time for me too.

[Elliott]

Well that was a big pointless revive :(

[MysticWarrior]

Yeah, but this is a pretty interesting topic, and while I was searching through it, I realized... I did not respond to his/her response with a witty comeback. That and it's a pretty interesting topic.

[Kaj]

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The treasure is deep in the Mogall Forest. It's either the apple or the elven shirt, I don't know.

It are the turtle boots. they lie a bit west of Kolima Forest. There is a kind of peninsula where you can find them. Press A if you are at the peninsula and you see: Isaac cheked the ground... Isaac found some Turtle Boots. And the Elven Shirt and the Apple are in Moggal Forest, and the person doesn't mean that. It could be the Fur Coat, too.

[ForteGX]

Why didn't Karst and Agatio travel with Saturos and Menardi (power in numbers...)?

[kate]

they only left prox to get revenge and to light the lighthouses cuz they wanted to complete menardi and saturos's quest so their deaths weren't in vain.

[Kaj]

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they only left prox to get revenge and to light the lighthouses cuz they wanted to complete menardi and saturos's quest so their deaths weren't in vain.

That's right. they followed Felix also, because they wanted to be sure the lighthouses were lit.

[Neon]

Karst and Agatio were not aware of their deaths. They were coming to add to the group. Otherwise Karst would have known in Madra :D.

[Kaj]

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Karst and Agatio were not aware of their deaths. They were coming to add to the group. Otherwise Karst would have known in Madra

Is that so???

[Neon]

At the end of TLA, The Wise One CLEARLY states that a portion of the golden sun was imbued into the mars star WHICH RESTS EVEN NOW IN THE HANDS OF YOUNG ISAAC. Or somethig like that, but he does say that Isaac possesses the Mars Star :D.

The one thing I didn't like in TLA is that the light houses take such little time to light. In the first game, the star took several seconds to fall down the pit. It would then erupt into a massive burst of energy. This would last for quite a while before the beacon itself was ignited. At the murcury lighthouse the initial beam of energy came when you were watching Mia heal. The beacon was ignited as they reached the aerie. At Venus Lighthouse, there was a while for the star to drop, then we had the energy rising, then the beacon didn't ignite untill Saturos and Menardi were defeated. At Jupiter and mars, the star would just float slowly down, then the energy would rise a few seconds later, and the beacon a few seconds after that. :). Stupid Camelot. The beacon lighting was far more dramatic and cool in GS, in TLA they made it so... boring...

I found it weird that the guy who comes with you to babi lighthouse didn't fight with you :).

I write too much :) :D

[Kaj]

Alright, I know that Karst and Agatio were not aware of their deads, but what do you mean with: They were coming to ad the group? You mean that they were going to join Saturos And Menardi? I hadn't thought about that yet.

[Neon]

Thinking about the plot now, it would make sense for them to send down more people to aid Saturos and Menardi. The erosion of gaia falls is getting perilously close, so they would send down more people to help get the lighthouses lit quicker. More numbers makes it easier to overcome any problems they may encounter ;). Well, that's the Prox way of thinking anyway, apparently brute force solves everything ;)

I personally believe they were just sorry excuses for bad guys, thrown in to TLA because Saturos and menardi needed to be defeated so that GS had a climatic battle at the end. But if you like to disect the story, then there's the most logical explanation.

[BloodPhoenix]

i think ure right bad excuss 4 bad guys, but karst is gr8, and it's pretty obvious that they were going to join saturos and menardi, but what i don't get is, u meet them in that town where peirs was in jail for the first time, and if u speak with karst she says where is menardi and sumthink about she said she wuld b here...

WHAT! how the hell would they have spoke to each other, they were at other ends of the world, perhaps it was a planned meeting before they left prox again to retrive the element stars? who nows...

;) ;) :lol: :lol:

[kate]

hmmm....curious...i dunno, maybe alex told them or something...

[Lightning Star]

oh yeah in champa alex says he's giving you a motivation (which is karst and agatio) to light the lighthouses. otherwise stated by sheba as a "threat"...karst and agatio are mad at alex for using them. useless conversation, again. :P

[Neon]

since she says that they arranged to meat there, they must have arranged to meet at Madra after Venus Lighthouse was lit. And since Alex says that he stumbled upon them by accident when he was on his way to steal the ship, He couldn't have been the one to get them :P.

[kate]

hey, about the mars star. the wise one says that some of the power of alchemy is in the mars star which is in isaac's posession yadda yadda yadda. but, big plot hole there, since FELIX TOSSED THE MARS STAR INTO THE LIGHTHOUSE! now i'm confuzzled... :blink: :P

[MysticWarrior]

kate, on Aug 4 2004, 11:19 AM, said:

hey, about the mars star. the wise one says that some of the power of alchemy is in the mars star which is in isaac's posession yadda yadda yadda. but, big plot hole there, since FELIX TOSSED THE MARS STAR INTO THE LIGHTHOUSE! now i'm confuzzled... :blink:  :wacko:

Stop being so stupid. The power of the Mars Star is in Isaac, not the Mars Star itself. Not like he swallowed it or anything... <.<

He got it from the beginning of GS1, where the Wise One asked you to take the Mars Star out of the bag so he could imbue the powers into Isaac.

[kate]

oooh, okay i totally missed that *hangs head in shame* i guess i read it wrong...that'll teach me to pay attention...

[Neon]

He says that he imbued some of the power into the Mars Star, which lies in the hands of young Isaac. Somebody go check now. He doesn't say that the power of the mars star is in Isaac, which is what most of you ae saying. If anything, Isaac would have part of the golden sun in him :).

[Valistrix]

What I think is weird about the game is the fact once your ship can fly you can visit the old mainland :) (It's a glitch). Only problem is you can't enter any town or woods you can only see the small icon though I think the only one you can go into is Vale.

[Kaj]

How can you do that? I've heard about this several times but I have'nt tried it yet.

[Neon]

A small beach along the north western side, just near Vale, allows you to jump out of your boat and over the cliffs :). You can see vale, but walking into the sprite does nothing. None of the other sprites are there. Except for VL, ML and Babi lighthouse, but you can't reach those :\

[kate]

cool! i'll have to try that!!

[ForteGX]

Yeah, none of the towns from the old game are accesible. =/

[Chosen One]

its kinda weird not being able to fly over forests in the so called "flying lemurian ship".

[ForteGX]

Well, it just kinda' hovers close to the ground, so...

[Echo_djinn]

So its not like you can climb mountains with it so i like the fact that you can hover over land.

[Teblor Tribe]

Ya and you can also move faster.

[darkhunter120]

Water Assassin, on May 28 2004, 03:35 AM, said:

-Why, in Kolima, a husband refuses to tell his family that he has a secret cave with zombies and the like in it. :(

I think He's talking about how to get to granite...Doncha think?

[SolAngel]

no, he had a cave made just to hide his oatmeal cookies

...of COURSE he was talking about granite!

[Lightning Star]

geeze you don't have to be so critical. I think you're right darkhunter.

[ForteGX]

Yes. The secret that the man was keeping was his hidden cave.

[MysticWarrior]

If you read his mind, it says it's deep inside the forest. So that rules the caves out.

[ForteGX]

Oh! The Turtle Boots! Of course!

...but when I read his mind he said that he'd never give his secret...

[Echo_djinn]

Cloud brand. By the time i get it it's usless to me.

[ForteGX]

I do Gaia Rock as soon as I get Piers' ship...

[Echo_djinn]

I go looking at the shallow waters for items then go to Aqua Rock then go to forge items then Tampo Swamp,forge again and then Gaia rock.

[Teblor Tribe]

I go Aqua Rock then right after Gaia Rock.

[ForteGX]

The game gets so much easier after the Jupiter Lighthouse.

[MysticWarrior]

That's because all there is after Jupiter Lighthouse is Magma Rock and Mars Lighthouse.

[Teblor Tribe]

and that there are alot of side quest after that.