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#1   Aquamarine 

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    Posted 25 April 2006 - 11:33 AM

    I'm very interested in medieval weapons, both European and Asian, but I'm not one of those people that are like "OMFG LOOK AT THAT SWORD ITS SOOOOO COOL!!11!". I'm very interested in not only what the weapon looks like, but also what it's made of and, most of all, it's fighting styles. That's why my favorite weapon of all is the staff. I've been training myself for the past 6 or so months and am quite skilful with it now. Most people are surprised how I've mastered it without an experts help. I've also got a nunchaku(which I'm quite good with too) and a shuriken.

    So what's you're favorite weapon, which ones do you have and are you very skilful with any of them?

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      Posted 25 April 2006 - 12:56 PM

      I've got a katana, sabre and a 2 bows (one bow for show :P and one for use.) I did fencing for about 3 years so i'm quite agile with a sword and now I'm taking archery lessons now and I'm pretty good at it.

      The katana and sabre are for show. So is my fencing gear more or less since I only use it when visiting England. You hardly have fencing clubs in Holland. The nearest one is Amsterdam for me. -_-

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        Posted 25 April 2006 - 01:04 PM

        I don't own any weapons, but I've always lifed the katana. Speed and accuacy are more important to me than brute force, plus the arch is a very structurally sound shape and is revered as sacred in some cultures. Although I have taken notice of the katana, I have yet to be motivated to buy one.

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          Posted 25 April 2006 - 02:41 PM

          Pah. Medieval weapons? Just give me a 22 rifle an I'll be reet -_-
          But I have done a bit of Archery before. Can't say I'm too good though.

          If I was going to learn any weapon properly though, I'd probably do some kind of daggers. Karambits look pretty sweet, I'td be cool to know how to use them properly.

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            Posted 25 April 2006 - 03:19 PM

            -_- Same here Wifle, gimme the heavy metal guns and Ill be ok.
            Also I watched some swords when I was at France, pretty sweet but Im not really into it.

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              Posted 25 April 2006 - 04:00 PM

              I'm jealous now Saturos Striker! I've always wanted a sword, but it's a really big problem finding one where I live. I've also been searching a bit for a place to train staff fighting with an expert, but the search isn't going too well.

              Oh and Wifle, when you say karambit do you mean this? This is what I've always thought a karambit is, that's what the net says:

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                Posted 25 April 2006 - 04:14 PM

                I threw a broom handle at my friend once.. Gave him a neat red line across his forehead.. ^^
                Does that count as mad 1337 staff skillz?

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                  Posted 26 April 2006 - 12:41 AM

                  I don't own any weapons but I've always thought Battle Axes and Morning star's (fails) were pretty cool.

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                    Posted 26 April 2006 - 02:02 AM

                    I wacked a tree with a bamboo stick for about 2 hours until a branch came off and me and my friends did "sparring" when i was 9.

                    I like the look of the katana.

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                      Posted 26 April 2006 - 04:36 AM

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                      I don't own any weapons but I've always thought Battle Axes and Morning star's (fails) were pretty cool.


                      Battle Axes are always cool in games, but if you think about it they would be very bad weapons in real life. Most axes are very heavy and unbalanced(the end where the metal is is much havier than the handle part). Thus they would be very hard and slow to wield. I think flails are quite useful though, but you can injure yourself with them if you're not too careful.

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                        Posted 26 April 2006 - 10:55 AM

                        View PostAquamarine, on Apr 25 2006, 11:00 PM, said:

                        Oh and Wifle, when you say karambit do you mean this? This is what I've always thought a karambit is, that's what the net says:


                        Yeah. You can get fold away ones as well. Quite a lot of people have them as utility tools when camping etc, but you can use them as wepaons too.

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                          Posted 26 April 2006 - 10:58 AM

                          I'm not one for weapons, other than firearms. I don't own any swords, but sometimes I slap people with rolled up newspapers. Don't know if that counts. Anyways, it's not like I have a weapons fetish, I liked the weapons in LOTR but really nothing other than that.

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                            Posted 26 April 2006 - 10:58 AM

                            I have no weapons right now but i like daggers. Fight with style ^^

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                              Posted 26 April 2006 - 01:09 PM

                              I kinda made it a hobby the last 3 years. Everytime I'm on holiday I buy a weapon of some sort. Last time we got in to trouble at customs and my wooden bow had to travel in the cargo flight 4 hours later. I finally got 2 days later when I had to pick it up at the airport.

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                                Posted 26 April 2006 - 01:10 PM

                                I fight with patience. No, patience not patients. xD

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                                  Posted 26 April 2006 - 07:58 PM

                                  I prefer swords and knives along with Bo staves. My style revolves around Agility and overall Jump Height. I like the idea of fast moves, powerful and dazzling. -_-

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                                    Posted 26 April 2006 - 10:03 PM

                                    View PostAquamarine, on Apr 26 2006, 08:36 PM, said:

                                    Battle Axes are always cool in games, but if you think about it they would be very bad weapons in real life. Most axes are very heavy and unbalanced(the end where the metal is is much havier than the handle part). Thus they would be very hard and slow to wield. I think flails are quite useful though, but you can injure yourself with them if you're not too careful.

                                    Fine crap all over my opinion -_-

                                    How about those big WarHammers? They're fricking mad (go watch Troy)

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                                      Posted 27 April 2006 - 03:07 AM

                                      Er... Yeah, War Hammers. Well, I don't want to repeat myself, but they have about the same bad sides as axes. Sorry about that dude!

                                      I really like Naginatas too. They were used in Japan by Samurai's. Here's a pic:

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                                        Posted 27 April 2006 - 11:46 AM

                                        yeah those are nice too, maybe an idea to look for on my next holiday. :angry:

                                        Nah, basicly I just pop in to all sorts of wierd stores and if I see a cool sword I check if to see if it's any good. And if it is I buy it.

                                        yeah those are nice too, maybe an idea to look for on my next holiday. :)

                                        Nah, basicly I just pop in to all sorts of wierd stores and if I see a cool sword I check if to see if it's any good. And if it is I buy it.

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                                          Posted 27 April 2006 - 06:21 PM

                                          Me being Filipino, and that being an Asian culture, I wanted to take a look at what medieval weapons we had. Apparently, I found this machete-ish knife and some weapons recognisable on Talim but without blades.

                                          Tonfas

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                                            Posted 28 April 2006 - 04:40 AM

                                            Hmm, I've never seen that sword/knife. Doesn't look too bad, but there are better ones.

                                            And I know about the Tonfas. I think they're a bit useles, since they have no blade, but they were used foe training and not real battles. They were primarily made of wood. Talim's weapons are called "Elbow Blades" which actually never existed, but were made up in Soul Calibur.

                                            I really like Gladius's too, but I think they must have been much harded to wield than Katana's.

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                                              Posted 28 April 2006 - 07:48 AM

                                              Pardon me, but I think this is all a bit dorky.

                                              I used to take some fencing, and I still know how to do the "lunge", but I quit for a lack of interest in the end.

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                                                Posted 28 April 2006 - 08:17 AM

                                                Well, everyone has his own interests and you can't judge another person by what he likes(and what you don't like). Just because you have no interest in weapons doesn't make it "dorky". Some would say that playing video games is "dorky" too, while others would say that reading books is "dorky".

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                                                  Posted 28 April 2006 - 11:05 AM

                                                  WD got dissed there...

                                                  I'm kinda getting intrested in crossbow and cannon designs since I did a essay about Leonardo Da Vinci and got intrested in the odity of some of his designs. Just check some of his works like the 33-barreled cannon or the ogival projectiles.

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                                                    Posted 28 April 2006 - 12:20 PM

                                                    That wasn't so much of a diss as much as he was just standing up to his opinion.

                                                    I might be interested in Archery lessons or something, but I'd rather spend my summer getting some money in a summer job, rather than spending money on a skill that I don't really need.

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                                                      Posted 28 April 2006 - 12:37 PM

                                                      I agree, this isn't something I'm going to spend my life with and I'm not going to try to live out a fantasy game or something. This summer, I'll go to my usual b-ball camp, and hopefully get a legit job. I won't be learning how to handle a weapon.

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                                                        Posted 28 April 2006 - 05:35 PM

                                                        I study Asian Martial Arts, so weapons come naturally. I think of these as artifacts of history, a hobby even. In my case, it's not reliving video games, but more of admiriation and soemthing interestign to put up on my wall.

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                                                        Hmm, I've never seen that sword/knife. Doesn't look too bad, but there are better ones.

                                                        And I know about the Tonfas. I think they're a bit useles, since they have no blade, but they were used foe training and not real battles. They were primarily made of wood. Talim's weapons are called "Elbow Blades" which actually never existed, but were made up in Soul Calibur.


                                                        Useless, no. With proper momentum, Tonfas can be as powerful as nunchaku. They can be spun at the handle to defend, too. If you mean against bladed weapons, then I think they'd be pretty useless there.

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                                                          Posted 28 April 2006 - 06:56 PM

                                                          Well, let me shed some light on the battle axe to clear a few things up. Yeah, axes are generally big and heavy, but a battle axe isn't really quite like that. The Vikings used the battle axe in battles (duh) and they won most of the time because of it. Battle axes are actually small and light, so they can be weilded easier in a battle. I learned this in my social studies class.

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                                                            Posted 28 April 2006 - 07:35 PM

                                                            As with many people, my obsession for guns overrules my obsession for bladed weapons.

                                                            I love straight blades, though. Many blades with more curve than a katana are unattractive to me. And the hilt of the weapon shouldn't have enough space for three hands; my two and the hand of my enemy to grab hold of it, that is. I'm sure you know what I mean.

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                                                              Posted 29 April 2006 - 12:25 PM

                                                              To defend axes, axes were meant to pierce through armor, unlike swords. The only swords that could piece through heavy armor are the heavy, broad swords, which are just as heavy and awkward as axes.


                                                              Speaking of which, there was a type of bow that came around that had enough power that it's projectiles could pierce through armor. This was around the time that Medieval Weaponry declined, FTW.

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                                                                Posted 29 April 2006 - 12:27 PM

                                                                The longbow and Crossbow, that was. I heard it could pierce through a mounted person's leg, through the horse, and out the other leg.

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                                                                  Posted 30 April 2006 - 04:12 AM

                                                                  Thats a pleasent though isnt it? :D

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                                                                    Posted 30 April 2006 - 07:23 AM

                                                                    My intention wasn't to diss Wind Dude, but, as he said, to defend my opinion.

                                                                    I understand why people don't want to spend time learning to wield a weapon, something you'll probably never need, but it's better to use your free time for this than to play games(Don't get me wrong! I like playing games more than slashing around with a sword, but it IS healthier), because it's quite healthy in many ways, like training a sport.

                                                                    Anyway, there were quite a lot of light and even short swords that could penetrate armor. As far as I know, Japanese short swords, like Wakesashi's were good for that. Also, there was the European Estoc and many rapiers were useful for that.

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                                                                      Posted 30 April 2006 - 08:35 AM

                                                                      Rapiers are light and easily used. Easy use means accuracy, meaning you can jab them where there isn't armour, too. If I can recall, they only had chain mail in the you-know-where.

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                                                                        Posted 30 April 2006 - 11:59 AM

                                                                        That's true, but some rapiers could even stab right through the plated armor! Some better crafted ones of course. Also, maces were as good as axes at countering armor and they were easier to wield, most of the time.

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                                                                          View PostAquamarine, on Apr 28 2006, 06:40 PM, said:

                                                                          And I know about the Tonfas. I think they're a bit useles, since they have no blade, but they were used foe training and not real battles.


                                                                          Just because they have no blade doesn't make them useless. Infact they are very, very practical. Think about it:
                                                                          Scenario 1:
                                                                          You have one tonfa and one dagger. You smack the guy in the face with your tonfa and now he's crying like a little girl. Then you swing it around, grab the base of it and smash him in his kneecaps with it. Now since he's lying on the floor crying even more, you put your dagger away because you won't be needing it. In the case of "fighting to the death" (unlikely ofcourse) beat the crap out of him with it. Too easy.

                                                                          Scenario 2:
                                                                          You have 2x tonfa. Think: Insanely powerful punches.

                                                                          By the way: http://www.tonfa-nor.../tonfa-noir.jpg is what a tonfa is, for those who don't know,

                                                                          Having said all that, I'd prefer to walk into a fight holding my katana. It chops through trees out the back, its blunt as hell, but dayam, it just won't break. I <3 it so much.

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                                                                            Posted 30 May 2006 - 11:49 AM

                                                                            I gots a little of thoes. I have a few really.

                                                                            I own this lode sword which Is a little hard to use, seeing as it's one handed, and at the same time, a little heavy. Then I have a mishetti (mispelled and don't care). I got a small hatchet that looks very interesting seeing as it looks somewhat similar to the Soul Reaver from Kingdom hearts, except slightly smaller, and less of a blade. Then I got a Kendo, which I use quite frequently, along with Kendo gear. Then I got two shurikes, but neither are sharpened and both I got from mexico, so there's no way they are original. Then I got a very nice pair of sais which are also used quite frequently. And ontop of that, I also got a ...................bo staff lol......which I was once taking lessons for, but I stopped around the beggining of highschool. "Gosh!"......but seriously, no joke, I did bo staff for a while.

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                                                                            I agree, this isn't something I'm going to spend my life with and I'm not going to try to live out a fantasy game or something. This summer, I'll go to my usual b-ball camp, and hopefully get a legit job. I won't be learning how to handle a weapon.


                                                                            Screw that! Living in your fantasys is possibly one of the most greatest things you can do. Some of the most interesting people I ever met still do a little make believe every now and then. And some of the greatest storey tellers of all time did it to. Perhaps you might have herd of C.S. lewis, or my good old pal, Mr. Tolkein? They both have been known to take instances from games of make believe and use the situations in there books.

                                                                            So you can go on living in the world of paychecks and little league sports, while I'm in my backyard swinging around a load sword, but am actualy conquering a mighty feind. And I get the princess every time. ;)

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                                                                            Well, everyone has his own interests and you can't judge another person by what he likes(and what you don't like). Just because you have no interest in weapons doesn't make it "dorky". Some would say that playing video games is "dorky" too, while others would say that reading books is "dorky".


                                                                            No your wrong. We are dorks. So you better get use to it, bro! :rolleyes:

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                                                                              Posted 30 May 2006 - 01:04 PM

                                                                              I'm still into Leonardo da Vinci's weapon design.
                                                                              He's shield chariot is so wierd, yet so pratical. In sword and old rifle combat it would be all powerfull.

                                                                              It was basicly a reinforced dome on wheels with guns sticking out in the front. More or less a basic idea for a tank.

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                                                                                Posted 31 May 2006 - 09:28 AM

                                                                                Leonardo da Vinci also made the blueprints of the first helicopter, even though he couldn't get it to fly. People later used his ideas to make the first helicopter and tank. That man was a genius, he was!

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                                                                                  Posted 31 May 2006 - 09:31 AM

                                                                                  Yes, he was way ahead of his time. I think he's probably the smartest man in history.

                                                                                  But some of his ideas were just wierd. Like the 33-barreled cannon.

                                                                                  Edit: He also laid the basics for aerodynamica.

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                                                                                    Posted 31 May 2006 - 02:46 PM

                                                                                    I like the katana and wakizashi. Mainly because I am obsessed with Japan, Japanese history, and samurai and the like. I read a lot about it all. x3 I have about four books out from the library on Japanese history and samurai.

                                                                                    I'd love to actually own one. Mainly just for show. Because Bexie + a sword = someone getting impaled (by accident). There are about three shops in my town that sell katana, but they're hella expensive. And, they won't let me. Has a big sign in red letters that say "YOU MUST BE OVER 18 YEARS OF AGE TO PURCHASE". and blah blah blah.

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                                                                                      Posted 01 June 2006 - 12:39 PM

                                                                                      Try france, you can buy cheap sabres and sports bows there. :rolleyes:

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                                                                                        Posted 02 June 2006 - 11:17 AM

                                                                                        Thanks for the heads-up SS! *goes to France*

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                                                                                          Posted 03 June 2006 - 12:11 AM

                                                                                          I bought myself a compund bow this morning as im thinking of taking up archery lessons. And the best thing about it is, it was only $400; About 1/2 the price I expected to pay.

                                                                                          It's not really a "Medievil" weapon per se, but its a medievil concept at least. I havent shot anything with it yet, because arrows are about $15 each and I don't have any targets yet. Outrageous!

                                                                                          After a few months of lessons (or however long it takes for me get become somewhat profecient) Im aiming to go out kangaroo hunting with it. Fun fun fun.

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                                                                                            Posted 03 June 2006 - 08:57 PM

                                                                                            There are hobbies, then there are expensive hobbies. Bow-hunting, hunting, sword collecting, and reenacting are some of the most expensive recreational hobbies in the world.... It kinda sucks sometimes, but one you buy the gun or sword you don't have to pay anything on it except ammo.... (Not so for a sword, of course.)

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                                                                                              Posted 03 June 2006 - 09:26 PM

                                                                                              Out the back of my house is a vacant lot that opens out into a massive paddock. I fired an arrow out there just now.

                                                                                              Wow.

                                                                                              I didn't even see where it went.

                                                                                              Goodbye $15 arrow...

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                                                                                                Posted 03 June 2006 - 10:01 PM

                                                                                                I wonder if it hit someone. Or nearly hit someone. That would be funny because seeing an arrow randomly almost hit you is funny.

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                                                                                                  Posted 04 June 2006 - 04:06 AM

                                                                                                  You're going Kangaroo hunting MR? I would never do such a thing. I can't kill animals at all, especially not for my own fun. Taking away a life just for the heck of it is something I really hate...

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                                                                                                  I wonder if it hit someone. Or nearly hit someone. That would be funny because seeing an arrow randomly almost hit you is funny.


                                                                                                  Yeah, especially if it was a pointed arrow. XD

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                                                                                                    I wonder if it hit someone. Or nearly hit someone. That would be funny because seeing an arrow randomly almost hit you is funny.


                                                                                                    Except when it hits you. Then you're a little preoccupied with hurting and dying and such to appreciate the mauve irony.

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                                                                                                      Posted 04 June 2006 - 05:23 PM

                                                                                                      Just a question, are nunchaku illegal in the US? I'm not sure what the laws there are, but they're illegal in Canada. The explanation: It takes a good eye and good arm to fire a gun. It takes arm strength to slash with a sword. It only takes a brain to smack someone in the head with nunchaku.

                                                                                                      EDIT: Thanks, Flaming Duck. XD

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                                                                                                        Posted 05 June 2006 - 04:21 PM

                                                                                                        You don't even need a brain. Just...a nuchaku. And I have a goof eye.

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                                                                                                          Posted 07 June 2006 - 04:23 PM

                                                                                                          Eh, I told some guy at work today that I wanted to go Roo hunting with a bow and arrow. The guy nearly wet his pants. Turns out, they're a very robust animal and would take too many arrows to bring down.

                                                                                                          Personally, I think it's a load of crap and Im gonna try one day anyway. We nearly had a $100 bet on it B)

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                                                                                                            Posted 07 June 2006 - 05:55 PM

                                                                                                            Has anyone tried to carve out their own bows and knifes before out of stiicks and such?(Guilty)

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                                                                                                              Posted 07 June 2006 - 06:01 PM

                                                                                                              I'm making just-for-show knives/swords out of styrofoam over the summer just for fun. I've tried making bows before, but was unsuccessful. The only working bow I made was out of K'nex. My cousin was able to do it out of wood, though.

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                                                                                                                Posted 08 June 2006 - 02:20 PM

                                                                                                                I carve knifes/daggers/swords when I'm on holiday in front of my tent. I make 3-4 each holiday, depends how long really. Some are more detailed then others, some or just cut in to a point.

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                                                                                                                  Posted 09 June 2006 - 08:43 AM

                                                                                                                  I do fencing, so natrually, i'm quite good with swords, especially the foil and Epee ( pronounced Eh-pay( dammit, no accent)) It's fun beating people up with swords, when they dont know anything about sword fightin. I hate it when I see people swinging about a wooden pole or summin holding it like a sword. IT AINT!!

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                                                                                                                    Posted 14 June 2006 - 04:56 AM

                                                                                                                    I've tried to make bows out of all the wrong woods. Bamboo would have to my worst attempt. My best ever homemade bow actually shot an arrow and it stuck into a tree. None of my homemade bows hold a candle to my compound bow though. That thing shoots arrows out of sight.

                                                                                                                    I made a little wooden dagger once as well. I was really impressed with the way it turned out as well.


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