[Sea of Time]

Well, for those of you who haven't seen the second movie yet, you probably shouldn't read past this point because eventually somebody's going to put down some spoilers.

Pirates 2 has just come out and made 6 times more money in its opening weekend than Superman Returns. It's a great movie, and the actors are really good at filling their roles. Disney seems to be milking it for all its worth too, with at least one sequel definitely on the way.

So, what do you think of this series, and any comments on how the second movie ended?

[Split Infinity]

SPOILRZ! Beware from this post onwards!

I didn't quite like the sequel as much as the first one, it just doesn't seem as 'fun'. The overall mood was too dark to what I was expecting, and there simply weren't enough action scenes (though the island escape scene was pure genius).

[Someone Else]

That wasn't a spoiler, Split.

Actually, there's a lot of fun and humor in it, it's just covered with bits of action to prevent it from being a downright comedy flick.

Jack is definitely dead. But they'll probably bring him back the same way that Barbossa (yes, that's spelled with two S') was brought back from the dead.

[Split Infinity]

Wind Dude, on Jul 18 2006, 04:36 AM, said:

That wasn't a spoiler, Split.

Whoops, I was going to say something else but I forgot to remove the sign. Oh well, it can act as a future warning for those who didn't read the first post clearly enough.

[Someone Else]

Apparently this movie has made the MOST amount of money in the first 3 days of release than ANY movie in the history of the world. And I mean, really, the most money of all time. Impressive, huh?

[Sea of Time]

Yeah, I had no idea that Spiderman held the old record. But both those movies have the unfair advantage of being released on a long weekend. More chances to get more money.

[Yuki]

My Gosh, Davey Jones was ugly =D

XD


I hated the ending. But the movie was the pwn! =D

[Split Infinity]

What? So Titanic has been bested already? *burns incorrect book of records*

[Sea of Time]

Titanic is the best over a two day weekend. Pirates is the best in one weekend. But it had three days, so it has an unfair advantage.

[pHantOm]

I personally found the movie to be simply amazing

I found some of the jokes kinda a

huh?

But for the most part I found the movie nearly perfect. I was BLOWN AWAY by the ending...

I think Jack is still alive, he was thrown into the mouth of it and he cut it open. Im predicting, since squids like that dont chew thier food...

[Neon]

I loved the much darker mood and serious plot, but the tradeoff of being less funny and removing the fun from Jack's character... I don't know if it was really worth it...

[Sea of Time]

Depp wasn't really allowed to be Depp as much in this movie and I think that hurt it. But I thought the Davy Jones/Flying Dutchman idea was ingenious. It was so cool that the sailors on his ship had been under the sea so long, they were actually starting to grow sea life on their faces.

[Golden Legacy]

[Spoiler Alert!!!]

Just saw the movie today. Yes, I know I'm late to the ride, but I got to it eventually.


"Oh my God!!!" was my reaction when I saw the ending. The return of Captain Barbossa? And what about Jack? WHAT THE HELL?! (Yes, I am using profanity)

Really summed up the overall dark mood of the movie, which on the whole, was fantastic. Lots of great action scenes (fighting on top of a giant wheel? genius! :agitated:) and the whole Davey Jones, Flying Dutchman thing worked out much better than I expected (I was skeptical at first, but it was pulled off well).

However, the thing that will stick out the most is the ending. As pHantOm put it, I was completely blown away by it. A huge, incredible shock that really sets the pace for the sequel.

[Bexie]

Bah, I don't think Jack's dead.

I thought Barbossa was, tho. Wtf's with that? o.O;;;

[Golden Legacy]

Yeah, same here. It was really well done too; we saw someone walking down the stairs, and I was honestly half hoping it was Jack, but it turned out to be Barbossa... it was stunning.

I like Wind Dude's suggestion that the same method that Captain Barbossa came back to life might be the same way Jack will return.

[I'm Always BROKE]

Oh My God! This movie was sooo ****ing awesome! :agitated:

I really loved it! I wasnt expecting it to be much better then the first movie but... It sure came VERY close.

Ohhh and Captain Barbossa wasnt dead. He was un-cursed thats all. Atleast that is what I remember. Same goes for the fat guy and the glass-eye guy and the monkey.

[Sea of Time]

The crazy accented woman must have had the power to bring back the undead. Or maybe something else is a factor in how Barbossa returned. Either way, we should learn more in the 3rd movie.

[Golden Legacy]

Then she would have brought Jack back to life. Probably some other factor, to be revealed in the third movie.

Don't forget about the last significant event of the movie; Davey Jones' heart is in the hands of Lord Beckett, and in effect the entire Royal Navy/the monarchy.

[Split Infinity]

But I wonder if he knows what to do with it? William might not have told him...

[Sea of Time]

But the heart is what he wanted all along, so he must know what to do with it. But if this is going to be like any other pirate movie, the British Navy never wins.

[Golden Legacy]

Shifting gears a little bit, how do you think the third movie will be marketed?

Some believe Jack is dead, others that he is still (somehow) alive. Therefore, saying that Johnny Depp will star in the next movie pretty much gives it away then, no? And that has been the most important selling point for the Pirates films.

I dunno, just something that occured to me. Thoughts?

[Sea of Time]

Orlando Bloom is more than a prominent selling point. He has really become a superstar since his role in Pirates and LotR.

Also, on more than one occasion, movies trailers have revealed something in the movie that wasn't known before. For example, in trailers leading up to Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers, we saw a white Gandalf, proving that he had come back.

For those who had not read the books, this was a discovery. They could do the same with Jack Sparrow.

[Golden Legacy]

Fair enough. That's a good point you make.

Taken from Wikipedia, this is a pretty cool bit of information about Dead Man's Chest:

The actors were not told, prior to filming, that Geoffrey Rush would be appearing in the movie. They were told, before the scene was shot, that the person coming down the stairs would be Anamaria from The Curse of the Black Pearl; the looks of surprise on their faces as Rush descends is genuine.

[Someone Else]

Some people seem to have forgotten what happened at the end of the first movie. I'm not really mentioning anyone in particular on these forums, but I'm also thinking about people that I've talked to IRL. I've watched the first movie a billion times so I remember close to everything that happened.

• The end of the first movie saw a very, very, very dead Barbossa. Jack threw the Medallion he stole to Will*, Will cuts himself and drops the two Medallions in the chest of Aztec Gold. The curse is lifted off of Barbossa just as Jack shoots in the general area of Barbossa's heart, which is just as bad as a headshot. Barbossa says "I feel... cold" and falls to the floor. Preeeetty dead.
  
• As for Barbossa's crew, the curse was lifted off of them while they were dishing it out with the Royal Navy. They gave up when they saw they were no longer undead. Later on in the second movie, Mr. Fat Pirate and Mr. Wooden Eye escape prison thanks to the little doggy with the key.

*Jack nicked one of the Medallions from the chest just before Barbossa told his crew to attack the Navy, so that he would be cursed and wouldn't be able to die in case anything bad happened.

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Hey guys, you remember the scene in the beginning of Pirates 2 where we see Jack for the first time in the whole movie? The one where he busts out of the coffin in the ocean? Think before that, where we see the big fortress building.

What's up with that place? Why was it holding the picture of Davy Jones key? What's with all the coffins being plunged into the ocean, and the unhappy people?

My sister and I decided that it was the Gates to Hell or something along those lines. It certainly does look forsaken by God, doesn't it?

[Someone Else]

Bumped because everyone is ignoring me. AND I DON'T LIKE IT. NO. NOT AT ALL.

[Golden Legacy]

Wind Dude, it's only been three days since the last post. I'm not sure where you saw the need to double post, but if you do it again, I will unfortunately have to warn you.

[My Best Wishes]

Just saw it.

I say it's real good but I don't think as good as the first. Inividualy maybe but in comparison no chance.

I don't think Jack is dead and I don't know how Geoffry Rush is still alive.

WD- As for that 'gates of hell' place. They also had people in cages and dragging people inside, I thought at first it was just a slave port or something. Looked creepy though.

[Caael]

Okay, I watched the film on a pirate DVD of a friends ( dont kill me!)
Film= Good stuff there, lots darker than the first film.


Ending= wtf?!?! Okay, something wrong here. Right, as what WD said. Barbarossa is dead. Dead as a dinosaur. Yet he's there. And he shouldn't. Whats more is I expected more. Barbarossa walks along, says something i cant remember BANG! The End. Confnused my head so much as to spoil the series for me. Unfortunate, as i loved the first Film.

[Golden Legacy]

Barbossa said, "So, what happened to my ship?" as the last line.

And it's a surprising ending, but you shouldn't give up on the series. In fact, if anything, this is a good thing, because it guaranteed another sequel for you to watch, not to mention adding some very nice plot twists.

[Caael]

Twists? Flippin tornados! But all shall hopefully be explained in the 3rd film, which might make me watch it.

[TheEnglishman]

I had a good guess at Barbossa being brought back. (Lotta 'B's there) When you can see his boots and the monkey over him about half way through, I thought that might be him. Still came as a surprise though.
I hope Davey Jones is in the next one as well. He was a good character. He also looked nothing like the actor who was playing him which I guess credits the the people behind the film.