[TheEnglishman]

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/16112006/140/pair...i-religion.html
This is a very bizarre story that I found yesterday whilst on the internet. I knew that a lot of people put Jedi down as their religion but... wow. Not your average news story I'll admit.

[Saturos S.]

This is... some stupid joke?

Not out of disrespect or anything. I respect what people believe. But this is just as much bullcrap as scientoligy. (sp?)

Let alone be the 4th largest religion in the world. It's more of a cult.

[TheEnglishman]

Basically it's a joke to everyone except the two people who have actually said this. They take it seriously, which is a tad worrying.
Pretty much anyone who puts it down is obviously joking. Then you get those who really do believe in it.

[Caael]

o.o


People just sunk lower than I touhgt.

[Sea of Time]

George Lucas must either be impressed or extremely embarassed at what he's done with these movies. And that's just what they are. Movies!

Stop taking them so seriously people!

[My Best Wishes]

Jedi Cenus

Read the link.

Star Wars religion? Some people...

[Mars Djinni]

I've heard about this. Basically, they live based on the Jedi code, as far as I know.

You know, the "There is no evil, there is good" or whatever it was?

[Nemphtis]

It's stupid if they actually believe in the Force, me and my friends were discussing this in college and we were laughing at all the funny situations you would see if someone actually believed in the Force etc.

For example, imagine if you had a physics teacher who was a believer.

There's no gravity my padawans... Just the Force!

[Saturos S.]

Mars Djinni, on Nov 18 2006, 03:27 AM, said:

I've heard about this. Basically, they live based on the Jedi code, as far as I know.

You know, the "There is no evil, there is good" or whatever it was?

Didn't that include not having sex or love?

[Mindpatch]

That is just weird, I'd sooner believe in spongebobs existance then in this bullcrap...

[Aquamarine]

... These people are sick. I would sooner believe in the existence of the Matrix than this ****.

[The Wind Seer]

People believeing in star wars religion. That is dumb. I mean how can people make another religion that is based on a film.
Important note:
George Lucus copyed another religion to make the "force".

[Mars Djinni]

Well of course it would be thought realistically.

Quote

There is no emotion; there is peace.
There is no ignorance; there is knowledge.
There is no passion; there is serenity.
There is no chaos there is harmony
There is no death; there is the Force.

Sounds a lot like Shao-lin Kung-fu. The Force can be based on qi energy. It exists in Buddhism, Shinto (ki), and in a more complex form - a spirit. In Latin, spirit means breath, derived from which Elohim breathed life into the first man, Adam in Biblical Theology. So really, the idea of a life-force has been around for a long time.

Qi does not exist to an extent as portrayed in the media (visibly energy, not-so visible, but overwhelming energy), but is more of a concept used for mental concentration. Realistically, it would be the amount of concentration that amplifies the control and strength of a move. Usually, it can be described as the mind, the breathing, and the body acting as one. Whenever the breathing is relaxed, the body and the mind are. Whenever but a splitsecond of force is generated by the body, the breathing and the mind are forceful for just as long.

[Mindpatch]

...Yeah,

so these dudes have lightsabers 'n stuff too?
awesome!

[I'm Always BROKE]

Star Wars Religion? My ass, we all know they are Jews in disguise! :o

[TheEnglishman]

Mindpatch, on Nov 18 2006, 06:09 PM, said:

...Yeah,

so these dudes have lightsabers 'n stuff too?
awesome!

:o
I'd join just for that!
Seriously though I wonder what they believe about death. Do they think they're going to come back as some sort of ghost that everybody can see?

[Mars Djinni]

Fictionally, not everyone turned into a Force ghost, but only those who trained intesively to reach it.

Otherwise, they'd become one with the force and reach some kind of enlightenment. Similar to the concept of "nirvana" from Buddhism.

It's Fiction, and George Lucas was inspired by existing religions and concepts to think this stuff up.

[Saturos S.]

Fictionally, they could feel people dying. When Alderaan got destroyed Obi-Wan was all "wooo...arghh."

So if they could feel that kinda things, like when people are around corners, I bet Mi6 wants them.

[Hotshot101]

These guys have lost their minds. It is just a movie cmon. I bet this religion did not really come out till 2001 like they said.

[Nyktos]

I've heard of this. A friend of mine (who also happens to be the guy who told me about Golden Sun) likes collecting random facts and one day walked into class and said "Did you know that more people follow the Jedi religion than worship Star Trek?"

[The Wind Seer]

The force is copyed from the Catholic Religion. If you wish proof, here it is:
When the jeji say "may the force be with you" it is copyed from "May God be with you.

If you wish more

[Hotshot101]

Another mis reading cmon. Catholics, now this!

[My Best Wishes]

That is shocking, people have been saying may god be with you long before the Cathlioc church.

I like MD's post about Qi, I think that makes a lot of sense.

[Caael]

I think it rather sad to base a religion on 6 films and various other spin-off's. They probably worship George Lucas like Yoda.

[I'm Always BROKE]

Well I'm half Jew myself, and I saw the movie of Borat some days ago so... :o For those who find it offensive, it's not ment to be offensive. Everything is solved now... :blink:

[Mars Djinni]

watch, on Nov 19 2006, 10:11 PM, said:

That is shocking, people have been saying may god be with you long before the Cathlioc church.

Sikhism, Judaism, and Islam all connect to the same God as Catholics, all of which date waaay back into the past. So yeah, "May God be with you" has been said long before Catholicism.

The phrase itself is used in a lot of thiestic religions, bidding the good fortune of a deity upon soemone. It's a widely used term whether it may be Zeus's blessing, or God's blessing, or whatever.

(George Lucas based some elements of Star Wars on Sanskrit, an example being the lyrics of the song "Duel of Fates". This is yet again another link to the Qi (Shakra) as stated before.)

[Ravenblade]

As stupid as the Jedi religion may be, its still better than Scientology.

And i very much doubt any of the people who follow it truly believe in it :P

Can you imagine meeting one?

"Oh hey, are you religious?"

"Yeah im a Jedi"

"Errr..."

-.-;;

[My Best Wishes]

Imagine the pick up lines 'Wanna see my starship ' :P

MD- If I may go off topic, really, how do you know so much about religions?

[Hotshot101]

Probaly takes a class on it. although some of those classes need to read up about this ring with us the jews, the catholics, and the islamics, because they make up some stuff and they don't quite get it all.

[Mindpatch]

Although totally mad, it's a more logical religion then p.e. scientology.
I'd rather believe in exteraterestial(wtf) life that uses shiney sticks to beat each other up then aliens dashing happyness meters on earth which they'll pick up in the near future....

[Saturos S.]

Scientology is the biggest scam ever. People pay loads of money for some talk sessions. In Amsterdam those people litterlly drag you to come and have a look inside. The people who are scientologists often don't even know how unlogical this religion is, even if they're a professor at some university in sociological studies.

Though being a jedi is pretty wacked too.

[Hotshot101]

Well ya. because

1: How they gonna actually live up to that
2: What sorta history they have.
3: how are they gonna back up the religion if all this happend on a different world.


Really they are going to get laughed off the face of the earth.

[Someone Else]

I like how many people have bashed Scientology in here, yet none have provided any solid reasons as to why they feel that way.

[Hotshot101]

Scientology is "the study and handling of the spirit in relationship to itself, others and all of life." Really this is just a bunch of philosphy concerning you spirit and getting back to it. It sound like a wacked form of saying your an athiest, because you don't really worship a god.

[Nyktos]

Wind Dude, on Nov 25 2006, 03:18 PM, said:

I like how many people have bashed Scientology in here, yet none have provided any solid reasons as to why they feel that way.

Ever considered that maybe it's because they assume most people are already informed about this stuff? Anyways, since you apparently aren't, http://www.xenu.net/

[Max]

I actually looked into Jediism a few years back, and it is, in fact, a serious religion/spiritual group. Most people who consider themselves a member of the religion live in Europe; I know there is a big sect in Germany.

These people do not believe in the Force as seen in the movies (which allow people to have psychic powers), but in the spirit and philosophy of the Jedi code. It does, in fact, have many similarities to Kaballah spiritualism in Judaism (not to be confused with the Hollywood psuedo-religion Madonna claims to be a part of).

The article linked in the first post represents a poor publicity attempt by some British nuts, and doesn't really represent true Jediism believers. For more information, I recommend reading http://www.thejediismway.org.

[Isaac13]

Huh. I've seen all of this before; and I have two gripes.

1) I'm appaled at the fact at no one saying "Wait till Isaac13 sees this."

2) I may love Star Wars, to death even; but I wouldn't really go this far...>.> I'm not THAT in love with Star Wars.

[TheEnglishman]

Heh just wait until Isaa... Awwww!
I'm glad a religion isn't set up for every single thing that people love. Just imagine a Nintendo religion... now THAT would be worrying. :mellow:

[Hotshot101]

That would scare me half to death, because of the idiotism in that. It is sorta a religion because half of todays idols can be any ordinary thing like money for example.

[Nyktos]

Hey, let's all answer Adept on the next census!



















Or not.

[Hotshot101]

OH YEAH! Like half of us are even considered adult. Wish we could though, because that would be funny.

[Mindpatch]

Wind Dude, on Nov 25 2006, 09:18 PM, said:

I like how many people have bashed Scientology in here, yet none have provided any solid reasons as to why they feel that way.

Because of the aliens dangit! It's the aliens!

[Bexie]

Oh man, that's hilarious.

*is one of the people who puts down her religion as Jedi*

May the Force be with you! xD

Felix of Vale, on Nov 27 2006, 10:39 PM, said:

Hey, let's all answer Adept on the next census!
Or not.

Hey, I would.

[TheEnglishman]

I had a friend who filled out an RS test in a Jedi way. When a question said "Give an example of the practices of a religion" he'd use Jedi. We all thought it was pretty funny, despite him having to retake the test. :rolleyes:

[Hotshot101]

Oh my. What did the teachers have to say about that?

[TheEnglishman]

They didn't really say much. He just had to do it again.

[Saturos S.]

@Hotshot. Read the last line: "He had to retake the test."

[TheEnglishman]

No it was a fair question. He didn't say 'Did he have to retake the test?', he asked what the teachers did. I was actually surprised how they didn't do anything. Maybe they didn't want to upset his 'beliefs'. :rolleyes:

[Hotshot101]

They really thought he believed in that? At first I would have thought it was a joke,but After reading that article well it is possible.

[Saturos S.]

They believe it allright. And there's no need to confirm this post, as it's as pointless as the one you just made.

Edit: I thought you were referring to the religion itself.

[TheEnglishman]

Hotshot101, on Dec 5 2006, 12:51 PM, said:

They really thought he believed in that? At first I would have thought it was a joke,but After reading that article well it is possible.

No they knew he was joking. They just didn't say anything.
Wow maybe I just shouldn't have mentioned it.

[Hotshot101]

Just a little inquiory. Anway wonder how the UN will respawned to the letter.

[Ravenblade]

respawned? You mean 'respond' right?

And and...what letter?

And what does the UN have to do with any of this anyway o.O?

Help someone, i got confused x.x!

[Saturos S.]

In the first link of the post an article is displayed about that these jedi's sent a letter to the UN. They wanted to change the name of some international day.

And he means respond. If he means respawn, well then we'll have a new UN.

[Hotshot101]

The so called 'religion' sent a letter to the UN to be reconised as a true religion. I have wondered if they responded to the letter yet. Just click on the link at the begining of the topic and read the entire thing.

[Saturos S.]

Quote

the UN Association:

To whom it may concern,

For the last ten years the United Nations has marked today as the International Day of Tolerance.

While we support this important work, we feel the UN needs to move with the times.

In the 2001 UK census, 390,000 people identified themselves as Jedi Knights, making us the fourth largest religion in the country.

We have a proud heritage dating back 195,000 years to our first Jedi, the blue haired, blue eyed Kaja Sinis, who was born on Coruscant.

Like the United Nations, the Jedi Knights are peacekeepers, and we feel we have the basic right to express our religion through wearing our robes, and to be recognised by the national and international community.

We therefore call upon you to change the 16th November to the United Nations Interstellar Day of Tolerance, to reflect the religious make-up of our twenty-first century civilization.

Tolerance is about respecting difference where ever it lies, including other galaxies. Please don't exclude us from your important work.

May the Force be with you.

Now want your asking before wanting an awnser hotshot.

[Hotshot101]

Umm Saturous that is the letter itself. You need to read better.

[Saturos S.]

Ravenblade, on Dec 6 2006, 09:44 PM, said:

respawned? You mean 'respond' right?

And and...what letter?

And what does the UN have to do with any of this anyway o.O?

Help someone, i got confused x.x!

He's asking about what letter and what the UN has to do with it.

You're the one that needs glasses...

[Hotshot101]

I think that you are really screwed then.

[Saturos S.]

Just to get things straight. Are you just ignorant or a bloody moron?

[Hotshot101]

I think I should factuate this. Take this line for example

Quote

In the 2001 UK census, 390,000 people identified themselves as Jedi Knights, making us the fourth largest religion in the country.

As you see they said us not you. Here is another one.

Quote

We therefore call upon [/b]you to change the 16th November to the United Nations Interstellar Day of Tolerance, to reflect the religious make-up of our twenty-first century civilization.

Another example and this is the whole line. They say they are calling upon the UN to change november the 16th. Makes me think if you guys learn anything in school.

[Saturos S.]

Hotshot101, on Dec 6 2006, 09:58 PM, said:

The so called 'religion' sent a letter to the UN to be reconised as a true religion. I have wondered if they responded to the letter yet. Just click on the link at the begining of the topic and read the entire thing.

They're not asking to recognise them as a religion. They just want to change the name of some date. That's the point.

Ravenblade asked about the UN situation. The letter is a request towards the UN. Don't your parents teach you how to read?

[Mindpatch]

:D' YOU CONFUSE ME!

I think Saturos was responding to Ravenblade en Hotshot thought you were responding to his question.

[Saturos S.]

But then Hotshot doesn't make sense either way. He's talking about you and we.

[TheEnglishman]

Can you take your arguements somewhere else? This topic can be closed now. I just wanted to point out an odd story and never expected so many replies.

[Hotshot101]

Saturos Striker, on Dec 9 2006, 01:14 PM, said:

But then Hotshot doesn't make sense either way. He's talking about you and we.

You just didn't think about it hard enough. Its just how the pronouns are placed.

[Golden Djinn13]

I forgot to post my opinion in this topic before it gets closed.

Star Wars is a great series, but what these people are doing is crazy. All their doing is further proving the point that there are star wars nerds/fanboys out there that need to get lives. Its just really sad.
:rolleyes:

[Saturos S.]

Seriously hotshot, I've got no idea what you're talking about. I'm talking about the UN situation. What the religion guys said in their letter, aka awnsering ravenblade's question.

You're talking about you're own question... I think...which is... stupid.

[Hotshot101]

AH lets just drop the subject. NO point in this petty bickering.

[Elliott]

This really is a testament to the stupidity of human kind.

Quote

In the 2001 UK census, 390,000 people identified themselves as Jedi Knights, making us the fourth largest religion in the country.

I think it needs to be taken into account how many of these people identified themselves as Jedi Knights for a cheap laugh.

[Hotshot101]

Mabye, that is true although sending a letter to the UN is a little to much.

[Saturos S.]

Maybe - that is true.

Combination doesn't make sense, "maybe" suggests there's a possibility and "that's true" suggest's that it's definite.

[Hotshot101]

Yeah I missed a letter on that one. Anyway it is true some of those people where just joking, but there must be some looney enough to send that letter.

[TheEnglishman]

Every cult program had it's nutters. It's like the Trekkies who learn how to speak like a Klingon. :D